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Begin Message Board SearchMessage Number 265422 Posted by Mitch on 5/30/10 at 12:01 You can't rely on MRI's etc.. to determine the use of decompression. It's your responses that matter. You'd be better off using a Kennedy Table with a trained person. Don't be fooled by Bells & Whistles: The history of Decompression table development has involved a lot of marketing hype over the years which has lead to 'Bells & Whistles' which serve only to 'market' as oppose to providing any unique benefit for patient treatment. Beware of machines with buttons which are claimed to isolate specific low back (lumbar) levels. Some Spinal Decompression machines provide buttons that make one believe that the machine will only affect the specific area of low back pain. For example, if one has a problem at the level of the third lumbar vertebra (L3), there might be a button on the the machine that says 'L3' for lumbar level 3 which leads you to believe that only L3 will be treated. Such claim of isolating the region by the push of a button is an 'Outright Lie.' All levels of the lumbar spine will be affected and the choice offered on the machine is for marketing purposes only. Poorly performed studies have been performed to justify the use of magic buttons which are suppose to treat the specific level of involvement. Among decompression systems, the DRX9000 has been advertised as having a Lumbar Selector which indicates that the system is adjusted to the proper angle for a specific lumbar level. There is nothing in valid research that validates such a claim. With the Kennedy Table, a real clinician will adjust pull patterns, angulation of pull and force in accord with the patient's responses. The patient's feedback is more reliable than pushing a button and there is no way to isolate the one lumbar level without effecting other levels. All lumbar segments will be affected on any and all decompression devices/tables. A larger person will affect the angle of pull relative to a thinner person. Also advertising claims with regard to the DRX9000 indicate that muscles resist when we pull them. The claim is made that muscle 'guarding' or 'splinting' occurs with traction forces which can actually do more harm than good. The DRX9000 is said to have a computer that is able to sense the body's muscle response and adapt to it. However, they forget one point. There is absolutely no substantiation to the claim that the muscles will guard during passive spinal traction, hence, more needless costly 'Bells & Whistles.' This outdated notion has been dispensed with yet companies are still using it for marketing purposes. It's an excellent marketing gimmick which has no true clinical application. We can improve comfort to a patient by reducing the amount of pull as it approaches the peak; there is no need to worry about muscle guarding. How long is a decompression session? Many facilities using sessions that last between 30 to 45 minutes per session; however, there is nothing in the research to validate such a long session. In-fact, longer sessions can lead to something called 'traction-reaction' where an increase in symptoms can occur. The idea that sessions should be so long is most likely from marketing hype & the desire to make people believe they got a lot of time for their money. Actual benefit can be obtained with 10 to 12 minute sessions. There may be some rare cases requiring more time, perhaps up to 25 minutes. What position should I be in during decompression therapy ? Many Spinal Decompression machines on the market force one to either lie prone (on your stomach) or supine (on your back). There are conditions which can lead to poor results or even a worsening of one's condition if they are placed in the wrong position. This is why the Kennedy table does not limit one's treatment position. Your particular condition dictates the position you will be placed in on the device. Beware of decompression machines which only allow you to be placed in one position.
Result number: 1 Posted by JH on 5/30/10 at 00:05 I have had 7 sessions at $30 each which included tens and 1/2 hr of pt exercises. My chiro is in NJ, and I had to postpone the treatment to go to work in SF for a month. After 2 weeks, I have gone from virtually pain free to agony again. More pain killers until I find a practitioner here. IT REALLY WORKS!!!!!!!! I am guessing that one of the keys is to start out gradually, and combine that with core building exercises with tens. But, I am a huge supporter of this 'spinal decompression' therapy for my herniated disc. ANYONE in SF who offers this therapy, please reply to this post with info on how to find you. JH
Result number: 2 Posted by BostonGal on 5/24/10 at 14:04 OK, I'm starting to freak out... I just signed up for spinal decompression last week and had my 1st treatment today. I was excited that I found what seems like a 'safe' potential cure for my 3 bulging discs and sciatic nerve pain. I just came across all these awful reviews and I'm scared that I may have signed up for a potential physical and financial nightmare. Please let me know if this machine is WORKING for anyone!!!!!!! I'm hoping to get married and WALK down the aisle next year.. Thanks 34/F 5'8 199 lbs
Result number: 3 Posted by Matt on 2/28/10 at 02:30 Do you really think this treatment(machine) is a con just because it didn't work for you? Wouldn't it be amazing if it worked 100% of the time. Unfortunately, NOTHING works 100% of the time on 100% of people. I'm sorry this didnt work for you, but it is a little ridiculous to claim it is a con and the company should be put out of business. Should surgeries no longer be done because of all the failures that happen? Should no one get anymore medications because medications account for the 3rd highest group of deaths each year? I can understand you are frustrated with chronic pain, but i'm guessing you have done some other treatments with no help... like physical therapy?, cortisone/epidural injections?, over the counter pain pills?.... should all these things be 'put out of business' because they didn't work to relieve YOUR pain. Fortunately there are thousands of people that have benefited from the DRX9000, who praise it for it's benefits and consider the costs minimal in exchange for their renewed quality of life. Why do you have such a hatred for this machine, but not for anything else that was unsuccessful? You must realize that your unfounded claims are discouraging others who have a great chance of getting better with this great therapy and you should think about that before posting such inflammatory comments.
Result number: 4 Posted by Sick of morons on 1/06/10 at 11:27 This DRX9000 and 9000C can be beneficial if used properly. The cost of this equipment is off the charts. The most this machine should cost is about $20k and that's a little high! Regarding ineffective procedures if any of you think precription drugs and butcher surgeons are more effective then use them. One last thing the insurance companys that pay for pills and needless surgery should be put out of business for refusing to pay for alternative teatments like the DRX9000 and laser treatment. This means you 'TRAVELERS'!!
Result number: 5 Posted by rj on 12/17/09 at 01:08 I was put on the drx 9000 at a D. O.'s office for back pain and neck pain. After the sessions I was put on ice and TENS to control the muscle spasms. I complained that my back hurt bad and about the spams and the doctor told me that was normal and continues for over 15 sessions. My back became worse. I can no longer sit down at all and have muscle spasms in my back and legs twenty four seven from the machine and it has been 12 months. I prayed that the spasms would stop but they won't and tried physical therapy and acupunture which did not help. Can I join a class action lawsuit. When I called an attorney they told me I would have to come in with an MRI that showed a herniation, however several other people have the same symptoms from the machine.
Result number: 6 Posted by Angry Back on 12/01/09 at 18:29 Dec 1, 2009 5:22 pm US/Eastern Attorney General Sues Medical Equipment FirmTAMPA, Fla. (AP) ― The Florida Attorney General's Office has filed suit against a Tampa firm that it said made and sold more than 1,000 pricey back-pain therapy machines to physicians nationwide through 'false, deceptive or misleading advertising.' Most of the doctors were chiropractors. According to Health News Florida, defendants are Axiom Worldwide, President and CEO James J. Gibson Jr. and Vice President Nicholas Exarhos. The complaint said they co-founded the company and both participated in unlawful sales practices. Among other misleading statements, the complaint filed Nov. 19 in Hillsborough Circuit Court said, Axiom called its DRX 9000 spinal decompression system 'the eighth wonder of the world.' Attorney General Bill McCollum seeks an injunction barring Axiom from continuing to market the machine under false pretenses and also seeks a court order forcing almost $100 million in repayment to consumers and the state — the amount that Axiom received for the machine in 2005 and 2006. Gibson told Health News Florida this morning that he cannot comment on the suit because the company hasn't received it yet. The DRX 9000 package that is at issue in the suit cost $95,000, or $125,000 if a neck attachment is included, the complaint said. Among the false statements, the complaint said, were that Axiom had a patent on DRX 9000, that the system was 'approved' by FDA, and that NASA engineers developed it through 'space age technology.' The chiropractors who bought the system were led to believe that Medicare and private insurers would cover the treatments, when the defendants knew claims were being denied, the complaint said. Also, it said, Axiom falsely led doctors to believe there were scientific trials showing an 86 percent success rate for the DRX 9000 in treatment of degenerative disc disease, disc herniations, sciatica and post-surgical pain. The price included materials the doctors could use in marketing the system to the public through brochures and ads. So far, the complaint said, 12 chiropractors who used the Axiom marketing materials have been accused of false advertising by the state health department. The company's Web site, https://axiomworldwide.com, was not in operation today, but a lot of information was available on a related site, www.AxiomPainSolutions.com. There, the system was said to 'provide relief of pain and symptoms associated with herniated discs, bulging or protruding discs, degenerative disc disease, posterior facet syndrome, and sciatica.' The site also offers videos of patient testimonials and a map of practitioners who use the DRX system. In Florida, there are 68 listed. In July 2006, North American Medical Corp. sued Axiom for trademark infringement regarding DRX 9000, but Axiom kept making false claims, the attorney general's complaint said. A federal district court in Georgia entered an injunction against Axiom and its executives in March 2007. A year later that injunction was vacated by an appellate court, but the findings of the lower court about the false claims were upheld. In April of this year, nine chiropractors from other states sued Axiom, Gibson and Exarhos, saying they would never have bought the machines if they had known the truth. Meanwhile, 11 Florida chiropractors have been fined by the state Board of Chiropractic Medicine for using the misleading marketing materials they received from Axiom. The Attorney General's Office identified them as William LaBonte, of Ormond Beach; Manuel Carril, of Miami; Matthew Symons, of Royal Palm Beach; Sandra Hernandez, of Royal Palm Beach; Richard Rosen, of Boca Raton; Angelo Rubano, of Fort Myers; Joshua Smith, of Jupiter; Todd Bodanza, of Trinity; Brian Reimer, West Palm Beach; Fred Blumenfeld, West Palm Beach; and David Golinger, of Coral Springs. ___ Information from: Health News Florida, http://www.healthnewsflorida.org/ (© 2009 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.)
Result number: 7 Posted by Pam c on 9/13/09 at 20:35 This machine does not work! People don;t waste your money, It's a true con.
Result number: 8 Posted by Pam c on 9/13/09 at 20:34 This machine does not work! People don;t waste your money, It's a true con.
Result number: 9 Posted by john b on 9/07/09 at 00:36 I too was injured please contact me by phone - 1-661-714-2169
Result number: 10 Posted by spind on 9/03/09 at 14:27 I heard that the Accu Spina people are out of business. Any truth to this?
Result number: 11 Posted by mary m. on 7/09/09 at 16:06 I was seriously injured on the drx9000. I am looking to connect with other victims. Please contact me at macerpacer at gmail.com
Result number: 12 Posted by mary m. on 7/09/09 at 16:06 I was seriously injured on the drx9000. I am looking to connect with other victims. Please contact me at macerpacer at gmail.com
Result number: 13 Posted by mary m. on 7/09/09 at 15:35 I was seriously injured by the drx9000. I would be more than happy to help you any way I can. Please list your phone number. my email is macerpacer at gmail.com
Result number: 14 Posted by grego on 6/24/09 at 08:27 what were your specific injuries.
Result number: 15 Posted by PamO on 6/07/09 at 05:33 I was treated with this Machine over a year ago and the pain and numbness was gone, however, now it is back, I was never told that I would have to maintain treatments to stay pain and numb free,and at a cost of almost 4000.00, I cannot afford this every year, I can hardly afford Health Insurance and it wont cover this treatment anyway.
Result number: 16 Posted by whiskeycat on 5/25/09 at 21:09 I would think this starts with the doctor, they have to be certified to use the machine, apply the proper settings and be aware of what health problems a person has before treating them. .
Result number: 17 Posted by whiskeycat on 5/25/09 at 21:05 999
Result number: 18 Posted by whiskeycat on 5/25/09 at 20:58 I see some of these machines advertised in the local paper, there's one back center near me that has one. My own chiropractor has a traction machine that I'm sure cost a fraction of the DRX-9000, and I have used it. So my question is what is the difference? This is an electronic marvel, very expensive so the doctors have to charge us a pretty penny to use it.
Result number: 19 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 4/04/09 at 13:35 While we do not know the particulars of your case and treatment it is often very easy to point fingers and make accusations and claims about a doctor or the company that makes the machine (in this case the DRX9000) when treatment fails. Over treating a patient is a cause of concern to any professional licensing board and obviously you feel this is the case. The problem is that most of the patients who pay for this treatment pay out of pocket and in advance, which is a contract for care and enforceable. In my office we observe a reasonable approach which is that depending on the nature and severity of the condition and a patient's initial subjective complaint and objective findings, if after a reasonable period of time their subjective and objective findings are nor improving, we discontinue care and refer the patient out to a logical and appropriate medical provider for evaluation. I am not familiar with the established protocols for determining when it is more reasonable to discontinue treatment and refer, discuss other options etc. in the spinal decompression field. I would think that if a typical treatment course is 20 treatments over a period of two or more months that if after one month no improvement was seen or reported by you that it is not reasonable to continue care and continue to charge you for failed treatment. This is why I am so against collecting payment in advance for treatment unless it is established that there is a reasonable amount of evidence that your care will be of a long duration. It is always within your rights of course to contact the doctor and discuss your concerns and that you be given a reasonable explanation as to why treatment was continued despite any real improvement. Did the doctor document any change that would hold up to a hearing from their respective board if an inquiry were initiated? I would query your doctor and possibly other doctors offering this service in your area (and the manufacturer and possibly the state board) as to what the established protocols are for determining what criteria constitute the appropriate necessity of continuing or discontinuing care related to this treatment. This is not a mainstream medical or chiropractic technique but a specialized ancillary modality and I wonder what protections are in place for the welfare of the patient whose complaints are unresolved and in what time frame. If you find out anything of value with respect to the above, I would personally appreciate you reporting back to us. It could be very helpful to the other readers. Good luck
Result number: 20 Posted by Axiom Victim 3 on 4/02/09 at 21:27 I have had 28 treatments now of the DRX 9000. What a scam. This company should be put out of business. After $6000 I am no better at all than when I started. When I started telling the doctor, after treatment #20, that I wasn't feeling any better, he would continue to tell me that if I stopped I would get worse, and he would talk me out of it. What a greedy doctor! I'm not sure who I'm more mad at...the snake-oil doctor or the manufacturer of this piece of crap machine. I want to know how to stop these people from promoting, and even selling, this machine/therapy. I will definitely report my doctor to the state board, and I will file a complaint against the manufacturer, also.
Result number: 21 Posted by Axiom Victim 2 on 2/19/09 at 14:20 I have learned that Axiom won't be touched for their crimes. One thing is it's too expensive to fight a company who lies more than they tell the truth. After FBI raids, countless lawsuits, FDA complaints, FTC complaints, and too many fraud complaints to count, Mr. James Gibson and Mr. Nick Exarhos are expanding into new countries and making more money than ever. Is and when they are ever held accountable, they will simply fold up and open under a new name like Gibson did with his old company. These are true criminals in every sense of the word, but our justice system is so screwed up they will continue to get away with this for some time to come.
Result number: 22 Posted by Glenn W on 2/19/09 at 06:47 I second the advice to get your money back. I've watched this blog since mid 2006 and a lot of it has been deleted. You may not have gone with the treatment if you had read the whole thing. It was 154 pages before being shortened (I wonder why?). The equipment is obviously still being used to scam people, myself included. It's just another 'traction table', and your insurance won't cover it because the manufacturer is embroiled in litigation at this point as well as a number of DCs.
Result number: 23 Posted by Axiom Victim on 2/03/09 at 13:46 You need to file a complaint to your state's board of chiropractic licensing. http://www.nbce.org/links/state-boards.html contains links to all 50 state's boards. Make sure you present the advertisements that enticed you to agree to this extensive 'therapy,' and let them know if you were told that the DRX-9000 was invented by NASA, or any of the other false claims made about this snake oil. In all, you have just been taken by a greedy system. The traction machine you were on is a huge gimmick designed to take your money. If the treatments had legitimate value, your insurance company would pay for the treatments. Don't feel bad though, I had to have extensive surgery and fusions because of this same device. I learned the hard way but I DID get my money back. Persistence pays. Might want to see this blog and read the reply at the bottom: http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/article/20090126/NEIGHBORHOODS01/901260333 Good luck.
Result number: 24 Posted by Sandy G on 2/02/09 at 11:55 I have been treated with the DRX9000. I was in a car accident which caused my disk to buldge in 2 areas. I went to the a Ann Arbor Spine Institute and was examined and told the treatment would make me feel much much better. The doctor couldn't say enough about how wonderful I would feel after the treatments. I was scheduled for, I believe, about 28 treatments. It cost me $9,200 upfront. He told me my insurance wouldn't cover it so I nearly stripped my savings to pay for the treatments. I have now had 43 treatments and still am hurting 50% of the time. Just the last 10 treatments they started adding more pull which seemed to be helping as far as not having pain - for a longer period of time. I believe this should have been done in the earlier part of the treatment. Just when we seem to be making some kind of headway the doctor hits me with a maintanence plan for $3,000 for twice a month for a year. A maintenance plan was never mentioned to me when I signed up. The only thing I was told was to buy an inversion table, an exercise ball, and do some simple exercises and I would be find and not have to come back on the table. I do not feel I am at the point where he told me I would be. It would be like having maintanence done on a home that isn't finished being built. Would I recommend this procedure? I can't honestly say I would tell anyone to spend that kind of money and not have guaranteed results for the price paid. If they are willing to give you your money back if is does not do exactly as they claim, then I would do it. The Ann Arbor Spine Institute guaranteed my satisfaction and I am not satisfied. He still has my $9,200 and I am still hurting.
Result number: 25 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 1/27/09 at 23:09 Lou which company or companies are under indictment?
Result number: 26 Posted by Lou on 1/27/09 at 15:33 Litigation Trial. It seems these machines with their fake clinical studies are really no different than that guy Madoff in New York. The house of wax is melting.
Result number: 27 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 1/24/09 at 15:50 Lou can you please explain what you mean by trial? Is this litigation or a clinical trial?
Result number: 28 Posted by Lou on 1/16/09 at 15:55 Decompression trial starts in February.
Result number: 29 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 12/29/08 at 22:06 Scott, The website for Cox Certified practitioners is: http://www.coxtechnic.com/referrals.asp It may help you locate a doctor local to them. I would also consider calling some of the DC's in their area and getting a feel for their practice paradigm and if they were trained in college in Cox Technique Keep in mind that certification is not mandatory (the college I attended included two semester length Cox protocol classes which is more than adequate). Good luck
Result number: 30 Posted by Scott on 12/29/08 at 21:01 Can anyone tell me if they know of a chirorpactor in upstate New York, Cornwall area, (catskills) that uses a Cox table? I have two elderly relatives that need help. Or, alternatively, can you direct to a chiropractor site where someone might know? I tried doing a google search and only found cox tables 'for sale.' Thank you.
Result number: 31 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 11/30/08 at 17:01 'Maintenance' treatment is a very common theme with chiropractors Chris. While I am not an advocate of suggesting to patients treatment that is not necessary, I do have some sympathy for the concept for chronic pain patients such as yourself (and certain specific degenerative and congenital factors to name two). I agree with you that these machines have value and have never doubted that (for that matter so does medication, surgery and conservative measures such rest, spinal manipulation, physical medicine etc). Are these machines the panacea that that SOME manufacturers and SOME doctors claim? No, they have a success and failure rate as does everything else that is dependant upon choosing the correct treatment for that patients presentation and probable outcome. The trick is finding a doctor who is more concerned about your outcome than their income. If they would simply be more discriminating in selecting their patients based on the probability of a good outcome, state the facts to patients up front and present a reasonable treatment plan based on the available research and outcomes and for a reasonable fee, we would not have this ignominious and despicable mess that we see today. The real problem as I personally see it (and this is just an educated opinion is that one company went completely cowboy and made the most sweeping misstatements in their marketing and misled the doctors about the billing of this procedure, the origin and testing of their machine and manipulated their data to reflect a far too positive set of outcomes to sell their product. Chris you wrote: 'My insurance pays for one round of twenty treatments per year' I would be cautious about what CPT (Current Procedural Terminology) code is being billed for your therapy if they are paying specifically for the Vax-D decompression procedure. As I have stated here before I am not aware of any insurer (including Medicare) that pays for this service under any code other than the 97012 code for mechanical traction and I use that code in my office and charge $25.00 (of course I do not own a 'spinal decompression' machine). The only appropriate codes to bill an insurer for 'spinal decompression' on any of these machines is S9090 (Medicare requires the use of 97799) and again, NO insurer pays for this procedure under your policy benefits to my knowledge. That could leave you or the provider open to the insurer asking for a refund if they audit these claims. Word to the wise; this is essentially a 'cash business' at this time. If you still have your Eplanation of Benefits (EOB) from the insurer I would like to know (as would the doctors who own these machines) which company is paying for this procedure under the above guidelines. Continued good health and progress to you and your spouse Chris.
Result number: 32 Posted by Still a bit confused on 11/30/08 at 14:45 I HAD spinal decompression with A vax-d. It's been only a few months, but having spoken with many who had this treatment, they seem to do great with a 'maintenance' treatment every once in a while. Some more frequent than others. My insurance pays for one round of twenty treatments per year and honestly, I would be fine with having one round per year if necessary to keep out of the misery I was in beforehand (back pain, knees on fire, numb foot). But I don't think I would want to have an accupattion that requires heavy lifting or standing on my feet all day. Not at my age (60). I wonder if you were told that spinal decompression requires periodic maintenace treatments. I was told, but only because I asked. I truly wonder if there is a real difference in machines. EAch D.C. says their make and model is the 'only', the 'greatest' blah, blah, blah, but I wonder if there truly is a difference. I just know I thank God I found this treatment. With six ruptured discs, my options weren't pretty.l
Result number: 33 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 11/30/08 at 12:06 I strongly disagree with the use of a technician for the administration of mechanical traction on a patient with one of these devices. Although mechanical traction is termed an 'unattended' procedure the doctor should set up the patient, the machine and monitor the treatment throughout the course of care for that patient. Chris may have hit the nail on the head here as to why there are so many reported failures and negative outcomes with 'spinal decompression'; a lack of professional oversight due to greed.
Result number: 34 Posted by Still a bit confused on 11/30/08 at 11:26 Thank you so much for your timely response. I do understand there is a definite turf war going on between the different brands of machines. I am a health care practitioner (not a D.C.) but what I am still confused about is what exactly are people saying happened to them (negative consequences) of the DRX 9000 in particular. I know here in Florida, there was a big newspaper article in the Tampa Tribune saying these machines were being confiscated from various offices but just cited 'false advertising claims'. They never said what these claims were and never alleged damage done to a patient by use of the machine. I can certainly see that if some moron started a patient right out pulling 70 lbs of pressure, that would certainly result in terrible pain, although I'm unsure if the results would be permanent injury and disablity. I know my husband and I definitely experienced a worsening of symptoms in the beginning and it would have been easy to quit if it weren't our only alernative and a crack at a normal life. Several times I told the technician I felt we needed to use less pressure for a while and we did with a good outcome. Again, it was me telling her, not the other way around. I also agree with you wholeheartedly that the cost of the Vax-D treatments are outrageous and I know my own D.C. has become a millionaire from it. He lets his technicians run the equipment all day long, four machines going at once non-stop, and he hardly ever shows up at the office, instead preferring to enjoy his millions at home. Having said that, I know personally that he has given so many people their lives back , his patients would cut off their right arm for him, and so I find it sort of hard to resent him for it. Again, thanks for your time, and I would just love to know if these machines can injure people and if so, is it mis-use on the part of the technician, e.g. using too much pressure? Chris
Result number: 35 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 11/29/08 at 12:53 Chris I am pleased to hear that you and your spouse had a good outcome with mechanical traction (spinal decompression). The main point that readers should glean from this discussion is that as in any other treatment or modality, there are successes and failures and those should be reported to the public in an effort to provide reliable, honest treatment based outcomes to potential patients. Instead we have witnessed a cult of fallacious mistruths, marketing hype and profiteering off of those same patients for a device that is dramatically over-priced (both to the doctor and the consumer). Hopefully the industry will abandon the old lexicon, spinal decompression and call it what it is, mechanical traction. Perhaps then insurers will open the door to more studies and standardization of the treatment. a separate CPT code used to bill for this device and delineate it from standard mechanical traction would possibly allow higher reimbursement based on these studies and the positive outcomes. To date the marketing and usage of some of these machines is very much like the cowboy old west. The gunfights between the manufacturers have left a cloud of suspicion on a modality that may have great value but instead is the pariah of health care and the focus of many malpractice and industrial lawsuits.
Result number: 36 Posted by Chris on 11/29/08 at 02:18 I am new to this forum but would love to know exactly how you were injured. My husband and I both had decompression therapy , using a different machine, (vax D) however our results were amazing. We hurt like heck in the beginning as the muscles and ligaments were being stetched, but we stuck with it and the results are just miraculous. I had six rupted discs, my husband was in even worse shape than me. So i would love to know, how were you injured with the DRX 9000? WAs a malfunction, mis use of the machine or what? Thank you .
Result number: 37 Posted by Chris on 11/29/08 at 02:12 I just have to make a comment about all the people who say things like 'i had three treatments and had such bad spasms etc. ' I underwent spinal decompression therapy, so did my husband, using a VAX=D. There is no question that when the muscles and ligaments are stretched there will be spasms and soreness. My husband and I both got worse, even needed to take medicaton a number of times, but we stuck with it and the results are nothing short of amazing. I had six ruptured discs, my husband had a combination of ruptured and degenerated discs. I think people quit to soon, thinking that the whole procedure should be pain free and they should feel great right from the first reatment. How can they think this way? You know if you fracutred your arm, and had it set without anesthesia it would hurt like hell to put those bones back in place. Even with anesthesia, for weeks afterward my arm huft like the dickens. But in six weeks times it got better. Same with decompression . Stretching muscles and ligaments aint gonne feel great but is so worth it in my humble opinion.
Result number: 38 Posted by LG on 11/21/08 at 07:57 An orthopedic surgeon and chiropractor from metro Atlanta are among a group sentenced to federal prison for a $3 million health-care fraud scam. Chiropractor Dr. Arthur Hargraves, 67, of Douglasville, got three years and five months in prison. Dr. Daniel Puffenberger, 52, of Kissimmee, Fla., was sentenced to three years and months in prison. Orthopedic surgeon Dr. Howard Berkowitz, 58, of Atlanta got a sentence of one year and six months in prison, because he accepted responsibility prior to trial and also assisted the government in the prosecution of the case. Berkowitz has already re-paid the entire $2.5 million restitution owed to the insurance company. Berkowitz, Hargraves, and Puffenberger operated a group of back pain clinics in North Georgia and Tennessee known as the Associated Spinal Care Network (ASCN). The three defendants were convicted of running a fraud scheme involving ASCN’s billing for a back pain procedure known as spinal decompression. Manufactureres of this equipment include Vax D, North American Medical Corporation and Axiom Worldwide.
Result number: 39 Posted by DCT on 11/12/08 at 11:16 Follow-up on my DRX9000 injury...It has been almost one year since I was injured on the DRX9000 and I am still in daily pain. The doctor who said there were 2 idiots in the room can drop dead. People trust a doctor who insures them that they can be cured by a particular treatment. If the chiro had stopped the treatment at the first sign of excruciating pain, sat me down and asked questions to get to the reason for the pain, he would have learned that the same area I now have pain in was injured in an auto accident in 1989. The tension of the waist band on the DRX9000 pushed up against that lower rib cage area and I was reinjured. This injury seems to be permanent. I have paid thousands of dollars trying to get pain relief but to no avail. The doctor turned my claim over to his insurance company and I may be reimbursed for my costs seeking pain relief, but that does not stop the daily pain I suffer from. I'd like to take a sign reading 'Beware of DRX9000 and this chiropractor' and walk back and forth on the sidewalk for 3 months in front of his office to warn away other unsuspecting people who may end up injured. I hope that chiropractor learns from my misfortune to stop a treatment immediately if the patient experiences excruciating pain. All my chiro did was to loosen the waist band until I could barely tolerate the pain, and then kept urging me to stay in that contraption for 22 minutes. Those 22 minutes ruined my life.
Result number: 40 Posted by ejw on 10/25/08 at 19:42 Hello - I had a similarly exruciating experience and am considering a lawsuit as well. I see now after some reading that there are quite a few lawsuits out there going after the manufacturer (Axiom of the DRX 9000), but I do not think suing the manufacturer is appropriate as my doctor should have known not to urge me on when I was not only getting no pain reilief after 4 weeks of treatment, but finally broken down with severe crippling spasms after a week pulling on the second of my two herniated discs (l4/l5 and l5/s1). I would like you know if there are otehr patients out there who were incorrectly put on this treatment even after painful spasms occurred. Please contact me so we can talk about this - 831-420-1842
Result number: 41 Posted by Spine Doc on 10/20/08 at 21:26 Florida Attorny General The case file cited below relates to a civil -- not a criminal -- investigation. The existence of an investigation does not constitute proof of any violation of law. Case Number: L07-3-1108 Subject of investigation: Axiom Worldwide, Inc.; James Gibson; and Nicholas Exarhos. Subject's address: 9423 Corporate Lake Drive, Tampa, FL 33634 Subject's business: Medical Allegation or issue being investigated: Possible deceptive and unfair trade practices under Chapter 501, Part II, Fla. Stat., relating to the sales and marketing of spinal decompression devices, specifically including the DRX9000, for false and misleading advertising, making unsubstantiated claims, and facilitating further dissemination of sales and marketing materials with such claims. AG unit handling case: Economic Crimes Division in Tampa, Florida
Result number: 42 Posted by 972 on 10/06/08 at 17:02 Federal Judge Dismisses ALL Claims by Axiom Against NAM and Others On September 15th, 2008, North American Medical won yet another decision in a series of decisive victories in their ongoing legal battle with Axiom Worldwide when Federal Judge Jack T. Camp dismissed all of the claims made by Axiom in the 2006 lawsuit filed by NAM. “North American Medical is obviously pleased with Judge Camp's decision,” says Gidgette Rubin, NAM's Senior Vice President. “We feel that it's high time that both physicians and clients in the back-pain industry realized the extent to which Axiom's spin-masters will manipulate the truth in order to just sell machines, and then defend by denying the lies, followed by claiming the victims had done the same.” Axiom's counterclaims were filed in response to a suit North American Medical filed against Axiom in 2006. The suit, which continues, alleges substantial misconduct by Axiom, including the following: • Axiom has repeatedly and falsely claimed their DRX-9000 machine is a patented device. • Axiom has repeatedly and falsely claimed the DRX is FDA-approved. • Axiom has repeatedly and falsely claimed the DRX machine was designed by NASA engineers. • Axiom illegally used registered North American Medical trademarks. Judge Camp ruled that there was a substantial likelihood that NAM would prevail at the trial of this case on each of these specific claims. The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld these rulings by Judge Camp.
Result number: 43 Posted by 972 on 10/06/08 at 17:01 Federal Judge Dismisses ALL Claims by Axiom Against NAM and Others On September 15th, 2008, North American Medical won yet another decision in a series of decisive victories in their ongoing legal battle with Axiom Worldwide when Federal Judge Jack T. Camp dismissed all of the claims made by Axiom in the 2006 lawsuit filed by NAM. “North American Medical is obviously pleased with Judge Camp's decision,” says Gidgette Rubin, NAM's Senior Vice President. “We feel that it's high time that both physicians and clients in the back-pain industry realized the extent to which Axiom's spin-masters will manipulate the truth in order to just sell machines, and then defend by denying the lies, followed by claiming the victims had done the same.” Axiom's counterclaims were filed in response to a suit North American Medical filed against Axiom in 2006. The suit, which continues, alleges substantial misconduct by Axiom, including the following: • Axiom has repeatedly and falsely claimed their DRX-9000 machine is a patented device. • Axiom has repeatedly and falsely claimed the DRX is FDA-approved. • Axiom has repeatedly and falsely claimed the DRX machine was designed by NASA engineers. • Axiom illegally used registered North American Medical trademarks. Judge Camp ruled that there was a substantial likelihood that NAM would prevail at the trial of this case on each of these specific claims. The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld these rulings by Judge Camp.
Result number: 44 Posted by john h on 9/12/08 at 12:25 I think you are correct but Decompression sounds much more like an important procedure. When you have your neck/back under traction you are decompressing the vertebrae. I think you could do a little decompressing by bungee diving. To consider something more serious I have always wondered just how a person with a low back problem caused by compression of a vertebra on a nerve would react if he were in a a space shuttle for a few weeks? Astronauts actually change height while in zero gravity so surely the compression on any nerve would be relieved for a while. Perhaps a bulge might pull back in and the nerve irritation would be relieve from a couple of weeks in zero gravity. Of course it only cost about $10 million for a 1-2 day space ride with Russia.
Result number: 45 Posted by jockdoc on 9/10/08 at 08:46 bailyc: 'Decompression' is the same thing as traction. Go to a physical therapist and have them do tracion on your back. It is covered by insurance, won't cost you anything unless you have a copay and offers the same results. DJ
Result number: 46 Posted by Dave on 9/05/08 at 00:01 Heh it was very exspensive and what they dont tell you is you have to do this forever not as much but at least $100.00 or more a month because no insur. It did help i felt stronger and was able to start working out. But had to stop treatments. to much money
Result number: 47 Posted by ms on 8/17/08 at 15:33 My Mom had used the DRX9000 and it messed her up so bad and she needs peoples help who also are in more pain now then ever. you can email me at govchick2010 (at) yahoo (dot) com Thank you.
Result number: 48 Posted by Concerned on 7/28/08 at 10:35 Does anyone know how many traction units are being sold anymore? My source says that they were selling 50 or more per month and now MAYBE 1 or so a month. A few years ago, it seemed that I had no competition and then it seemed like they were everywhere and now it doesn't seem that any new doctors are buying due to the alleged fraud. Anyone have any idea how the health of this industry is going?
Result number: 49 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 7/27/08 at 12:07 This entire subject and thread has really gone to the dogs. Posts intimating lawsuits, personal attacks on posters, websites being erected to lure discovery, doctors afraid to post their names and credentials either for fear of litigation or recrimination, posters of a certain geographic region (let's call if the State of Florida for posterity) posting under various names under the same Wi-Fi carrier, vice presidents of Axiom posting without answering a single question and then vanishing, claims of competitors being bought out by Axiom (which never happened). On and on and on. Does anyone else find that this entire subject is rife with unprofessional behavior, acrimony and deceit? It really doesn't take a giant mental leap to realize that the entire industry is not being straightforward with either the doctors or the patients.
Result number: 50 Posted by Dr. LS on 7/27/08 at 10:22 Teacher sues doctors over treatment BY RACHEL MONAHAN NY DAILY NEWS WRITER Rosier/News Michelle Feinman, 44, says her life has been a nightmare since a chiropractic procedure went horribly wrong. A Brooklyn teacher was disabled for life by a chiropractic treatment, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday in Brooklyn Supreme Court. Michelle Feinman, 44, a veteran gym teacher and dean at Samuel J. Tilden High School, had excruciating back pain before the November 2006 procedure. Now it's impossible for her to walk a city block even with a cane, she said. She has to use a scooter to get around. 'I waddle when I walk. I go into heavy muscle spasms if my legs get tired,' Feinman said. She also has lost the ability to control her bladder and her bowel movements, she said - the result of her spine being partially crushed by the procedure. The lawsuit faults the company, Axiom Worldwide.
Result number: 51 Posted by Axiom Victim on 7/25/08 at 09:15 If anyone know anyone who has been hurt by the DRX9000, please send an email to stopaxiom at live.com and include any information about the patient that you are feel comfortable with. This information is being requested to help someone who was seriously injured on this table. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Result number: 52 Posted by Dr. P on 7/19/08 at 00:43 Attention all Chiros...Let's get a history leson here.Like anything if overused it can be dangerous. If you don't know what a logarhythmic curve is or Fechner's Law, then you shouldn't be doing any decompression treatment on patients regardless of what table you have. Certainly many of you may not remember the monosynaptic stretch reflex.(this will increase Gamma and alpha motor neuronal activity) therefor traction will increase muscle tone and provoke spasm. However by a slow pull(distraction)with these laws using VAX-D(original name and the first to the market) you will fire a renshaw cell to inhibit the internuncial pool of neurons thereby giving Alpha and Gamma Motor Neuron Inhibition.There is science behind this and all you guys need to know it.Let's talk like the doctors that we are and not like this MD idiot who wouldn't know an a-hole if he were a proctologist.
Result number: 53 Posted by Arkansasdoc on 7/18/08 at 11:35 Amen Sister, Axiom has had an engenda to intimidate and destroy all who come in their way. Some companies are proud of their accomplishments, people are excited to be there. Axiom is just a bully of a company that lied about NASA/success rates, etc then threw Gary Dixon and others out as the sacrificial lambs. Let me let you in on a little secret. All of these companies know without a doubt that this is nothing more than traction. It has been 12 years since the start of the lie known as 'decompression' started. Not one clinical study, no credible science, etc. This fraud has cost the american consumer hundreds of millions. MD's unite to fight this fraud!!!!!! This new tracton market has made a complete mockery of hundreds of years of trials to improve LBP. Space age, my ass. More like the stone age. Me tie string to back and pull hard...
Result number: 54 Posted by oma z on 7/13/08 at 03:06 Just so you know, the Chiro Dynamics Ad posted online and in their latest magazine, was put there by Axiom Worldwide. They admitted it in the FEDERAL LAWSUIT against them. This ad is to put fear and intimidation into doctors doing business with Media West or any other type of business. They say it's only for discovery in their lawsuits against us, that have been ongoing from 18 mo. to three years. Right. What does that ad make you think when you read it? http://eclassifieds.chiroweb.com/eclassified/detail.php?&id=6909#addedit How long must we endure their harassment? I'll just continue giving it over to God. I read this book recently by George Ritchie, MD, 'Return from Tomorrow,' who was clinically dead but experienced a most profound Near Death Experience. At one point, he is in this plane of existence where there are many many sprits there (people that have died and have become separated from their physical bodies). These spirits would curse and kick and try to hit each other. It continued on and on without end. Since of course they were without bodies, they couldn't feel the pain of actually being hit. But the anger and all the passion of hate was behind it. That's what these lawsuits are. A senseless waste of time when our precious time on earth can be spent using our time for good. From the many accounts I have read, I see over and over again, that we are asked after we die, 'How much of your time did you spend loving others?' It is true that, 'Even as we do unto the least of these our brethren, we do unto Him.' These people on that angry and fighting plane of existence, were unaware of the love of God, and of his angels above them.
Result number: 55 Posted by DRX SELLER on 7/11/08 at 17:51 all this is great. however does anyone know who wants to sell a DRX9000C. I need 2 of them. I sell this equipment on the secondary market and i have several people looking to buy machines. I have a DRX 9000 for sale in California, Utah, NC, NY. If you want to contact me dave.0623 at hotmail.com. I wont be looking here for any responses even though it was very entertaining.
Result number: 56 Posted by Arkansasdoc on 7/09/08 at 21:36 Contacted by the FBI last week. They are on a witch hunt for sure... Didn't go to medical school to be dragged down by the Tampa boys so this canary is singing!!!
Result number: 57 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/25/08 at 17:27 Tony, I completely agree with you. I never made the claim that 'spinal decompression/mechanical traction' has no value as one person here suggested (guess who?). I also have no financial interest in either save for the small percentage of my patients that I do perform traction on. Traction does have its successes. My only goal for ever becoming involved in this entire thread was to provide an alternate viewpoint to the deceptive marketing and media hype surrounding the industry. Hopefully that will change in time and studies will replace the fantasy. As for an answer to my questions, or any of the questions asked here, I seriously doubt that we will ever receive answers here on this board. Instead of defending themselves appropriately, the greed mongers are slinging mud and attacking anyone with an opinion that is not in line with their own. This is part and parcel to how they do business and how they treat their doctors when trouble comes knocking in dark suits with badges. I think that says it all with respect to their business paradigm, ethics and longevity. The Feds will clean up the industry soon and that will be the answer that we were all seeking.
Result number: 58 Posted by Tony L. Hoang on 6/25/08 at 12:15 Hello David, Spinal Decompression is a surgical procedure. Even if the words 'spinal decompression' dries up and disappears within the chiropractic community, let's hope the technology and practitioners don't. Whatever it is called or will be called, there are patients out there that have been helped by it. It's just too bad that the manufacturers can't seam to get along and play nice in the sandbox. All their mud slinging just hurts our profession and our credibility. Good news, it's never too late to change. Keep up the good fight David, I hope you get your questions answered someday...
Result number: 59 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/24/08 at 20:14 Tony you're a colleague, call me David please. What you've said is very true, finding an unbiased opinion on the subject is difficult. Although Drs. Vaughan and Edwards are offering a package for marketing your spinal decompression practice, they appear to be using reasonable standards and language that would not encourage doctors to commit fraud. Whether you spend 10K or 100K on a 'spinal decompression' machine, the marketing of that machine is what is landing our fellow DC's in trouble and not the machine itself. Their battle with ACN is case in point (not that ACN is my favorite cost containment/management group). The insurers have caught onto the sales pitch marketing, inappropriate coding and fees, lack of evidence based protocols and have protected themselves from having to shell out reimbursement for the semantic sleight-of-hand. Their system costs less than 1K to launch your investment to your prospective patients. Maybe it is not as seductive as the Altadonna ads of the past but at least it isn't going to land you in prison. Once the hype ends and the prices come down to reality the words 'spinal decompression' will dry up and disappear overnight with traction tables. Isn't spinal decompression a surgical procedure?
Result number: 60 Posted by Tony L. Hoang on 6/24/08 at 19:30 Dr. Wedemeyer, I followed the link you provided to the ChiroWeb.com article. If you look at the email at the end of the article, you will see that Drs. Edwards and Vaughan may have a motive for making the statements they did in their article. Go to their website at www.marketdecompression.com and you will see they are selling a marketing package for the Chattanooga Triton DTS system. Let me make it clear I am not standing up for any of the 'high priced' spinal decompression companies, but I just don't like it when articles are written with ulterior motives. It is in these Drs interest to down play the cost of decompression systems. The Triton DTS is about one-tenth the cost of some systems. It's hard to get unbiased opinions in our field. Everyone is out for their own best interest. The Triton DTS is marketed as a traction unit, and thus is billed as a traction therapy.
Result number: 61 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/24/08 at 17:36 http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/26/15/07.html Some very interesting points by a very well respected chiropractor, James Edwards and co-authored by former coding consultant to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and member of the ACA Coding Committee, Cynthia Vaughan. The bad news is that the fallacies continue. The good news is that others in my profession are taking a stand on the issue.
Result number: 62 Posted by Another Axiom Victim on 6/22/08 at 12:49 Brooklyn Teacher With Slipped Disc Also Sues Chiropractor and Hospitals By Ryan Thompson Brooklyn Daily Eagle ADAMS STREET — It began with a slipped disc in her back. Now the Brooklyn public school teacher says she can barely walk. Her lawyer claims that despite having undergone surgery, she has permanent bowel and bladder dysfunction, and that she must use a scooter to move around. And it’s all because of her chiropractor and his DRX9000, the lawsuit claims. Michelle Feinman, a 44-year-old physical-education teacher at Tilden High School, filed a medical-malpractice and products-liability lawsuit in Brooklyn Supreme Court on Tuesday. She alleges that the DRX9000 spinal-decompression machine, which is used in chiropractic offices around the country, is partly responsible for her injuries. She is suing the machine’s manufacturer, the Brooklyn chiropractor, and doctors at Beth Israel and St. Luke’s-Roosevelt hospitals, as well as the hospitals themselves. “Ms. Feinman was failed on every level,” said her attorney, Jonathan C. Reiter. “She was failed by her chiropractor who recommended treatment with the [DRX9000]; she was misled by the manufacturer’s false claims of safety and efficacy; she was failed by the emergency room doctor for not recognizing the seriousness of her condition, and by the neurosurgeon who wouldn’t come to the hospital and misdiagnosed her over the phone.” Representatives who answered the phone at Axiom Worldwide, Inc., the manufacturer of the DRX9000, were not aware of the lawsuit. “We’ve been told that we cannot help you with anything,” was the representative’s response. The area code and company’s site indicate that the company is located in Tampa, Fla. “At Axiom Worldwide, we created the DRX9000 to assist healthcare providers in their effort to treat back pain conditions. With treatment on the DRX9000, your patients can non-surgically achieve relief from their debilitating back problems. By combining technology and science, physicians can utilize the DRX9000 to offer patients an alternative to surgery,” says Axiom’s site. The chiropractor that Feinman visited was Marc Felderstein, whose office is in Marine Park. Other local chiropractors in New York also use the DRX9000, and aggressive advertising campaigns can be seen throughout the city. Hotlines are operated by spinal-decompression representatives, and free educational DVDs are offered to callers. According to Reiter, Axiom has been cited repeatedly for making false claims of its success in treating back pain. Reiter said that among the claims the company makes in brochures and marketing materials available to patients at chiropractors’ offices who use the machine is that the DRX9000 “helps to mobilize the troubled disc segment without inducing further damage to the spine” and that treatment with the DRX9000 “is painless, drugless and there are no documented side effects.” “Ms. Feinman was left disabled and unable to perform her duties at work, and she must be compensated,” said Reiter. Feinman, a Marine Park resident and physical-education teacher of 21 years, has applied to take a sabbatical from her job because of her alleged injuries. She is suing for compensatory and punitive damages. © Brooklyn Daily Eagle 2008 All materials posted on BrooklynEagle.com are protected by United States copyright law. Just a reminder, though -- It’s not considered polite to paste the entire story on your blog. Most blogs post a summary or the first paragraph,( 40 words) then post a link to the rest of the story. That helps increase click-throughs for everyone, and minimizes copyright issues. So please keep posting, but not the entire article. arturc at att.net Main Office 718 422 7400
Result number: 63 Posted by Ryan H on 6/19/08 at 00:25 I have received several courses of treatment on the DRX 9000 and have found it to be quite helpful in my case. First a little background on myself: I'm 30 years old and have been suffering from lower back pain since I was about 19. I consistently played various sports throughout my adolescent years but I didn't have a specific accident or incident that I could point to as a cause of the back pain. Prior to my experience with the DRX 9000, I had been through physical therapy three separate times and had been through the normal course of treatments including ultrasound, massage therapy, eletrical stimulation, excercises, traction, etc. The therapy would make me feel better for a short period of time but it would only be a matter of months before I was back to where I was before treatment. I did have an MRI done and my problem area was L5/S1. I believe the disc was degenerated and bulging. The pinnacle of my problem arose as a result of teaching an appraisal class part time at a community college in Costa Mesa, CA. I would be standing and lecturing for approximately 4 hours a night a couple times a week and I did this in one instance for approximately 16 weeks straight (I taught a couple of courses back to back). My back pain got worse and worse as the classes went by and eventually I had to terminate my teaching assignment with the college. It got to the point where I couldn't stand for longer than about ten minutes without a good amount of pain and stiffness. It was at this time that I sought additional treatment options and came across the DRX. As one would expect, I was skeptical. I hesistantly took the plunge with my local chiropractor a couple of years ago and paid $5,500 for twenty sessions. I noticed quite a bit of improvement after the initial twenty sessions but not as much as I had hoped based on the DRX advertisements. Nevertheless, the results were better than most anything I had tried previously. Approximately 6 months later, my chiropractor and I agreed to place me on the machine for another 12 sessions. He agreed to give me a sizable discount on the price of the sessions, having paid full price on the initial 20 sessions. At the end of these sessions, I felt still better. After having gone on the machine two times and continuing to see improvement, I began to view this machine as something that I might do on an on-going basis. Approximately 9 months after the second round of DRX, I went on the machine for a third time (12 sessions) again at a reduced rate. After this round of DRX, I felt the best that I have in over 10 years. It has been 11 months since my third round of DRX, and today I just commenced a fourth round of DRX. This time we're doing 15 sessions. My chiropractor is again giving me a reduced rate due to the number of times that I've been on the machine. All told, I have spent in excess of $10,000 on DRX treatments over the last 2.5 years. Of course, none of it has been covered by insurance although I have deducted a good portion of these expenses on my income tax returns. I have been very pleased with the results and I'm now able to participate in just about any sport or recreational activity that I want to without hesitation. There is no doubt that I have paid a hefty price for these treatments. However, to me, it has been worth it. My decision to go back more than once for treatment wasn't necessarily because the benefits of the original treatment wore off; it was more because I and my chiropractor felt that I had not reached the point of maximum benefit yet. I would like to get my back as close to 100% healthy as possible and every time I get back on this machine I feel like I get one step closer to that. It helps that I make a very good income and have the disposable cash to afford these treatments. This year, I set aside $3,500 in a flexible spending account specifically for the purpose of chiropractic and DRX. I must admit that the back pain that I have experienced throughout my life is by no means the worst case scenario. There are plenty of people that have suffered far more than I have and may have been on the DRX with less benefit. Nevertheless, my back problems were indeed enough to prevent me from living the type of full life that I wanted to live. The DRX machine has certainly helped me to change that. It was an expensive choice but one that I don't regret in the least. I live in Mission Viejo, CA (Orange County) and receive my treatments in a chiropractic office in Lake Forest, CA. I should also mention that prior to the DRX 9000, I bought a Teeter's Inversion Table from the Home Shopping Network (I bought this table probably about 3 years ago). While it certainly was relaxing and it felt good while I was on it, it did nothing to give me lasting relief from my back pain. The results I received from it are in no way comparable to what the DRX has done. About a year ago, I sold my inversion table to someone else who wanted to give it a try.
Result number: 64 Posted by Jacksonville Jags on 6/16/08 at 18:02 Teacher sues doctors over treatment BY RACHEL MONAHAN NY DAILY NEWS WRITER Rosier/News Michelle Feinman, 44, says her life has been a nightmare since a chiropractic procedure went horribly wrong. A Brooklyn teacher was disabled for life by a chiropractic treatment, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday in Brooklyn Supreme Court. Michelle Feinman, 44, a veteran gym teacher and dean at Samuel J. Tilden High School, had excruciating back pain before the November 2006 procedure. Now it's impossible for her to walk a city block even with a cane, she said. She has to use a scooter to get around. 'I waddle when I walk. I go into heavy muscle spasms if my legs get tired,' Feinman said. She also has lost the ability to control her bladder and her bowel movements, she said - the result of her spine being partially crushed by the procedure. The lawsuit faults the company, Axiom Worldwide.
Result number: 65 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/13/08 at 09:20 So far we have 7 different names from the same Tampa Florida location. Did we step on some Tampa based person or companies toes badly enough for them to insinuate and pass their own hidden subconscious desires in my direction? They call that transference in psych terms. Even when you use Wi-Fi and VOIP you leave a footprint dummy. Obviously you're intimidated enough to write that garbage and hide behind your computer. Be a man and come out and play in the road son, you're encouraging me to copy everything ever written about on this board and to create my own blog in your honor. If you want to face me and answer our questions I may consider letting this go and discontinuing posting to this thread, but right now I am enjoying watching you twist in the wind and grasp at straws. I plan on personally writing you letters and sending you a maid outfit for your prison stint. Chew on that tough guy.
Result number: 66 Posted by 361 on 6/12/08 at 18:35 How it all began: http://www.chirobase.org/06DD/vaxd/ad.html What it lead to: http://www.casewatch.org/doj/ascn/indictment.pdf & http://www.casewatch.org/doj/stearns_levine/indictment.pdf How it spread: http://eclassifieds.chiroweb.com/eclassified/detail.php?&id=6909#addedit How it ends: http://www.visitingdc.com/images/alcatraz-prison-picture-3.jpg
Result number: 67 Posted by yo loco chiro in SF on 6/12/08 at 15:01 Hey San Francisco treat, you’re a real fruit, and not just because of what you posted on here. Do you think for one friggin minute anyone is going to leave their email address on here so that they get harassed by the attorneys that are hunting for blood or worse interrogated under hot white lights by investigators? If you have something of value then post it, otherwise stay off of the blog and stop ridiculing people who are trying to decipher the industry’s troubles Put up or shut up and stop slamming people with no facts to support the BS
Result number: 68 Posted by San Fran Crazy Man Looking for Love on 6/12/08 at 14:58 Hi, I am bright, very good looking, romantic. I am also intelligent and I am a chiro, oops is that an oxymoron? Any ways I am looking for love in all the wrong places, and I want …… Wait, damn, this is the wrong message board for this post. Anyways, if you read my message with sunglasses on you can see a naked DRX9000 dancing STOP english ALTO spanish HALTA german +#&* at ^& at %#$ street talk ~~~~~~~~~ alien speak I have a message to all of you Earthling Chiros, This is the El Capitain of Air Alien, not to be confused with the illegal aliens at SAM. We are here to abduct as many of you as possible so that we can learn what simpleton minds you all have and what in the world posses you to write such dribble and diatribes on a blog. If you people do not stop and relax this Dr. Wider-eyed fellow is going to blow a gasket and go postal. Wait this is via email, such an antiquated phrase for one to go “postal” I presume now he would go “electronic” on us all So here is my top ten from David Letterman: 10- Axiom- old news, who cares 9 - SAM, I don’t care whoever said that, now that is funny 8 - Scientology - I hear that Tom Crusie is buying a house in Dubai 7- Oma z- the z is for Zanny and that’s why we love her, but she needs to be medicated 6- Liberte and Spinal AIDS- he is like a virus, he wont leave you alone until you buy 5- Bashing Axiom- who cares old news, but it is fun, and easy 4- Spina- who cares, they have there own problems to deal with 3- To the In the Dark NJ dr, get a life, perhaps you and Dr. Wider-Eyed should elope and spend eternity pleasing one another 2- thanks to OMA -Zanny- Bashing Axiom- who cares old news, but it is fun, and easy, thanks for showing us the way O Enlightened one And the #1 thing, RE #3- chin up guys, its now legal out here in CA, so get in line, I do think that’s how he became wider eyed, it was after the honeymoon. Wake up and save yourselves. While you are sleeping on this blog axiom probably screwed another 20-30 doctors this month again. And where are you? Here reading this crap while this company makes boat loads of money every day and month unlike you. Now go market like hell just like Altadonna told you to, repercussions be damned, and you too can become rich, successful and a member of the hair club for men chia pet model just like Ben! Ok on a more serious note, who the hell is this Boston Bobby and has anyone else seen the emails that he is sending around the country? I think I know who he is, but I don’t want to say. I will forward to whoever wants them, but there ae already like 400 names on the email forward, I would be surprised if anyone on here hasn’t seen them yet. They are very interesting, no wonder NAM and the Westfalls are all so quiet, some serious crap is about to hit the fan. Then we wil have a whole new discussion board to post things on. Keep it up spinal decompression manufacturers, we should charge for this comedy routine.
Result number: 69 Posted by Axiom Victim on 6/12/08 at 09:06 Dr. R from New Jersey, can you tell me why the medical doctors who performed the research were anesthesiologists and not ortho or neurologists? While I hav respect for these doctors who help us feel no pain during surgery by masking it or putting us to sleep, the DRX is supposed to treat the cause instead of the symptoms, right? Does the DRX actually numb or mask the real pain? Is this why anethesiologists were used? Do these type of doctors truly understand the physiological effect of traction on a spine any more than a chiropractor understands NASA engineering? This just looks like more attempts for Axiom to cover up for their bad decisions they made when they lit this fuse many years ago. On another note, rumor has it that Nick Exarhos, the primary mastermind scientologist behind Axiom and their NASA ads bought a palace in Dubai recently? When the FBI comes after him, I guess this is where he will try to run.
Result number: 70 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/10/08 at 23:32 Apparently now that I have pugilized that one company and asked them the hard questions that they could not and would not answer, we have more anonymous do-gooders crawling from the cracks. First if you cannot post your identity, you do not deserve a response nor are your posts credible. Are you a ‘real doctor’ or do you just play one on the internet? Step up to the plate and post your real name and credentials as I have. The next topic is that of “You have in fact helped many patients receive the answers they were looking for. But in doing so, you have also recommended for patients to seek alternate advise, even insinuating that their physician had misguided them.” If I have ever claimed that any doctor misguided a patient as to their diagnosis, show me the post. I may have offered another opinion, or advised them to seek another opinion I’ll admit that. Do you not refer for second opinions ‘doctor’ or are your diagnostic skills sacrosanct and written in stone? The fact that you admit that I have aided many patients receive the answers they were looking for is testament to my honesty, integrity and commitment to the patient. It also dilutes your argument a great deal. You then ask “what could possibly be your true motivation to continually post negatively about Axiom. You have criticized their marketing, but have not ever mentioned Dr. Altadonna.” Go back a few posts and reread because I did address Dr. Altadonna’s marketing. You obviously are true to your word and have not read very many of my posts. As for mechanical traction and the Cochrane report, could you be more specific? I have read numerous studies on mechanical traction (for a variety of spinal conditions) and the fact that these studies report good results with mechanical traction and that insurers routinely reimburse for this service is enough for me. Like any treatment it has its successes and failures, as does the type of traction that you support; spinal decompression. Neither is the panacea for spinal conditions but if you pay $100K for a better mouse trap such as the DRX 9000, you can sell a procedure that is still unproven in the literature (the studies that laud their 86% success rate for low back pain are proprietary ) and charge exorbitant fees. I have a great deal of respect for Dr. Yochum, don’t even go there. The fact that he supports these devices is one of the few reasons that I have considered the possibility that there is more to ‘spinal decompression’ than is currently supported in the literature and clinically. I also stated that I support my colleague’s decision to purchase and offer this treatment when it is performed and marketed ethically. If you cannot see the trend in diminishing our professional equity that has occurred because of all of the shenanigans proffered on the public by Axiom and their marketing, then you need to wake up, smell the coffee and get a gut check. I really don’t give fat rodents behind if you want to insult me for offering my time sans remuneration to help the people on this board. The fact that I spend probably an entire hour or two weekly here answering questions about concerns that those suffering with foot and ankle complaints wasn’t meant to impress you personally. The simple answer is that I got tired of the same tired old rhetoric (Foot Levelers) and chose to step outside the box when it came to orthotic therapy. I wandered here to this board, met a few truly brilliant and caring podiatrists and pedorthists here, learned from them and became a pedorthist myself. The fact that they contribute and find time to help others here, to discuss treatment and suggest second opinions when indicated is probably lost on you. I suppose next you will suggest that they have an agenda and are diminished in their practice success. I can prove otherwise in both their case and my own. The fact that you are so busy professionally and yet admittedly you reveal that “Over the last few years I have examined this message board on numerous occasions”, tells me that you talk around corners. What is your motivation for disparaging me? I highly doubt that you are a colleague but instead an employee of Axiom. I could be wrong but given the tone of your diatribe I think the readers will question your motive much more than my own. The fact that you brought Oma Z into this leads me to believe that this is the same person who wrote the nasty remarks to her about her religion. Again that was the most despicable and low-brow attack that I have seen on a woman in some time. I don’t even know Oma Z, I was just appalled that any man would stoop to such an aggressive attack on a female, verbal or otherwise. Aim high. “You refused an offer from Mr. Dixon to fly down to Axiom, so you can’t say that they did not attempt to enlighten you.” I know a few doctors who have a DRX as well as similar machines. I have heard about their successes and their failures. I have never claimed that traction is ineffective but be careful in doing so yourself because when the studies are completed and the verdict is in that they are one and the same, you may have to eat your own words and refund a whole lot of money. I also have seen numerous patients who have failed on this device after spending thousands out-of-pocket. A trip to their headquarters is not going to change my mind nor do I have a desire to accept their offer. I truly do not believe that that particular company will be around for very long. The answer is simple. You just wouldn’t “get it”. The great majority of my posts here have had nothing whatsoever with ‘spinal decompression’ nor lining my pockets. Let me spell it out for you; I have no agenda other than an honest answer from Axiom and its management. Thus far they have spun the truth and attacked me and others for our views on their litigation and ethics. The fact that so many legal entanglements have spawned from their device and its marketing is the motivation of all the posters here. They simply want the truth about this treatment and this is one of the few places that it can be found or that any discussion of the DRX 9000 takes place outside of courtrooms.
Result number: 71 Posted by VTech Alum on 6/10/08 at 22:36 To Dr. R, You are correct that most researchers are paid. They receive grants from organizations such as the NIH, universities, etc. Only the bottom of the barrel work as you suggest. Please get your facts straight and then go back to working miracles as you claim. Look at me, I'm a miracle worker... And you wonder why people question decompression and the doctors who use it? Stick to pixie dust enlightened one. It probably has a higher success rate.
Result number: 72 Posted by Dr. R, NJ on 6/10/08 at 19:43 Dr. Wedemeyer, Over the last few years I have examined this message board on numerous occasions, only to find myself mystified by its content. You have in fact helped many patients receive the answers they were looking for. But in doing so, you have also recommended for patients to seek alternate advise, even insinuating that their physician had misguided them. As an experienced Chiropractic physician I find this to be offensive. How are you going to imply that another physician (A fellow Chiropractor at that) has incorrectly diagnosed or erroneously recommended a certain treatment? Did the patient conduct his or her own examination? Where they able to read their own MRI? Many patients are not able to fully grasp the concept of their condition, therefore they will only be able to communicate what they understand to be their case. As time has passed, I have asked myself what could possibly be your ∜true∠motivation to continually post negatively about Axiom. You have criticized their marketing, but have not ever mentioned Dr. Altadonna. Dr. Altadonna continues to utilize the same tactics he did in the past, but that does not seem to bother you. Their research does not impress you, but yet you offer your patients traction, which has been clinically proven to be ineffective in the published Cochrane report. Nevertheless, if insurance covers the treatment, it∙s good enough for you to employ it. You have repeatedly asked to see a double blind DRX study, but how do you double blind a device? As I was one of the first DC∙s to incorporate the DRX in New Jersey, I can truly say that it is an extremely valuable tool. Our patients have had success and it is truly a miracle to be able to help so many, not all, regain their lives. Have you read Dr. Wilkins story on the American Chiropractor? He is claiming success with spinal decompression, so is he a liar? Or better yet, do you feel Dr. Terry Yochum is a fraud for suggesting the DRX works? All researchers get paid, even those from Mayo, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, etc. Not many recognized researchers work for free. Dr. Wedemeyer, you have stated that you are posting on behalf of the Chiropractic profession, but you are really not. Over 80% of DC∙s do not participate in blogs or message boards. The majority of the profession has no interest in your agenda or opinions. Stop judging those around you for mistakes they may or may have not made. Who are you to judge? How would you like to receive criticism on how much time you spend on this board? What successful physician has time to post so often and still have time to treat their patients? I hardly have time to review my emails, let alone post on a blog. I have now taken much longer to write this then I anticipated, so I will get to the point. What is your motivation? Is Oma Z your beloved sister? Has the insurance industry contracted you to be their ∜anti-decompression∠spokesperson for the last few years? Are you trying to break the record for the highest number of negative posts on a product you don∙t even own? You refused an offer from Mr. Dixon to fly down to Axiom, so you can∙t say that they did not attempt to enlighten you. What is it Dr. Wedemeyer? No debates, but a simple answer would surfice. You owe it to the tiny percentage of the profession who actually has time to read message boards.
Result number: 73 Posted by Dr. R, NJ on 6/10/08 at 19:41 Dr. Wedemeyer, Over the last few years I have examined this message board on numerous occasions, only to find myself mystified by its content. You have in fact helped many patients receive the answers they were looking for. But in doing so, you have also recommended for patients to seek alternate advise, even insinuating that their physician had misguided them. As an experienced Chiropractic physician I find this to be offensive. How are you going to imply that another physician (A fellow Chiropractor at that) has incorrectly diagnosed or erroneously recommended a certain treatment? Did the patient conduct his or her own examination? Where they able to read their own MRI? Many patients are not able to fully grasp the concept of their condition, therefore they will only be able to communicate what they understand to be their case. As time has passed, I have asked myself what could possibly be your ∜true∠motivation to continually post negatively about Axiom. You have criticized their marketing, but have not ever mentioned Dr. Altadonna. Dr. Altadonna continues to utilize the same tactics he did in the past, but that does not seem to bother you. Their research does not impress you, but yet you offer your patients traction, which has been clinically proven to be ineffective in the published Cochrane report. Nevertheless, if insurance covers the treatment, it∙s good enough for you to employ it. You have repeatedly asked to see a double blind DRX study, but how do you double blind a device? As I was one of the first DC∙s to incorporate the DRX in New Jersey, I can truly say that it is an extremely valuable tool. Our patients have had success and it is truly a miracle to be able to help so many, not all, regain their lives. Have you read Dr. Wilkins story on the American Chiropractor? He is claiming success with spinal decompression, so is he a liar? Or better yet, do you feel Dr. Terry Yochum is a fraud for suggesting the DRX works? All researchers get paid, even those from Mayo, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, etc. Not many recognized researchers work for free. Dr. Wedemeyer, you have stated that you are posting on behalf of the Chiropractic profession, but you are really not. Over 80% of DC∙s do not participate in blogs or message boards. The majority of the profession has no interest in your agenda or opinions. Stop judging those around you for mistakes they may or may have not made. Who are you to judge? How would you like to receive criticism on how much time you spend on this board? What successful physician has time to post so often and still have time to treat their patients? I hardly have time to review my emails, let alone post on a blog. I have now taken much longer to write this then I anticipated, so I will get to the point. What is your motivation? Is Oma Z your beloved sister? Has the insurance industry contracted you to be their ∜anti-decompression∠spokesperson for the last few years? Are you trying to break the record for the highest number of negative posts on a product you don∙t even own? You refused an offer from Mr. Dixon to fly down to Axiom, so you can∙t say that they did not attempt to enlighten you. What is it Dr. Wedemeyer? No debates, but a simple answer would surfice. You owe it to the tiny percentage of the profession who actually has time to read message boards.
Result number: 74 Posted by Trenton Dr in NJ on 6/09/08 at 18:19 WOW, alien abductions, men in funny suits, how did I miss all of this useful info. Lets lay off Dr. Wedy…, he is just trying to have some fun in the moment. As for Axiom and scientology, I don’t think so. I have been to their factory and they don’t strike me as that wacky of people, maybe some like ben A, but not all. Ha ha !! Now as for that other company down there, Spinalaid and that wack job Liberte, he is for sure a fruity scientlogist. I met with him on his seminar, He takes you for a ride on his self proclaimed love boat and wispers sweet nothings in your ear about all the money he has yet he has to file bankruptcy. Scum floats just like his boat. Well I just am not sure myself where this is all going. I don’t think it was the west falls that brought the problems for NAM, besides what does vax-d and Nam have in common? It was that Atlanta distribution company that caused it all and told the investigators what they did not know and where the bodies are buried, and now they have to face the music. I can understand how the big fish Axiom was brought down, but these other people are small time and worthless. Have you ever met them? What a joke of an organization NAM or is it SAM is, whoever said that it is funny and appropriate, it’s a “family” run business if you now what I mean! I can see why you are on the lamb now BB, we warned you about those guys in Atlanta and all of the problems with that follow them. Best of luck and remember to duck
Result number: 75 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/09/08 at 17:07 Actually 'in The Dark' despite your armchair recriminations I contribute to this board as a pedorthist who actually cares about the patients who ask questions here. I have not actually seen nor benefited from courting patients off of this site, so your accusation that I am 'self promoting' is entirely baseless. In the time that I have contributed here the thread under 'spinal decompression' has grown and I made comments based on what I do know about mechanical traction and the new lexicon; 'spinal decompression'. many of these threads are more of the same inflated marketing and do direct patients to their office. That seems fine if you're using studies that that are based in fact and not being investigated and reprimanded by several state boards and the Feds. If you review the threads you will find that I am only concerned with one companies marketing. I do not care how you practice personally, nor do I wish to evolve a semantic debate with you over the language used to promote this treatment. I've read the studies and the DRX studies do not impress me (nor the Feds apparently). You obviously know very little about me or my practice. based on dividing time treating chiropractic patients and pedorthic patients I may even see more patient visits a day than you do. The difference is I am not in a competition with you and especially with anyone who would hide in anonymity behind the internet to slander a colleague. You're the one who needs to 'get a life'. Post your identity if you have the stones or else direct your derision elsewhere. Given Axiom's nasty attitude who know' maybe you work for them, we know you probably own one of their machines. I guess learning Diversified or Gonstead was too challenging for you so you bought a fancy table?
Result number: 76 Posted by BB is out on 6/09/08 at 12:52 Yo Rod, you are so correct in your synopsis of happenings in the industry with all of these idiots. And now, because of my knowledge and the fact that every attorney and tom dicka nd harry investigator wants to speak with me. Well so I spoke to them and I told the truth and what happens is I get to be threatened to be sued by the Atlanta fraction for the columbian Cartel, aka South American Medical, aka NAM. Well too bad I am going to tell the truth as I don’t want anymore patiens to get hurt on that piece of garbage spina machine and then be part of a cover up as they continue to to mislead the distributors about the safety of the device while negotiating with MediaWest for conjugal ownership. No siree Bob, not me, not with this bunch of liars. So this is Boston Bobby signing out and consider yoursaelfs warned. Axiom got theirs and has gone down, The west falls and Spina are next, and soon they will be going down and I am not gong to be around to witness their fate, but I am going to be a witness thanks screws them for good, Thanks, BB out
Result number: 77 Posted by In The Dark on 6/09/08 at 12:51 Dr. W, you are either totally in the dark, paid by the wolly wogs at the competiton to keep posting on here, a desperate chiro whoi has more time on their hands than patients, or all of the above. WHo has time for this,a nd who made you the industry expert to hold court. Get a life and stop self promoting yourself. There are plent of dr's on here that believe in the technology contrary to what you think of are trying to persuade others into believing, i guarantee you you have some tin box of a traction device that masquerades as spinal decompression and that you tell your 3 patients a day that all the machines are the same but here, read axiom or vax-d studies.
Result number: 78 Posted by ROD on 6/06/08 at 10:08 Well lets try and clear up a few items. VAX is and has been for sale for a while. The company is having a very difficult time selling product and Dr. Dwyer is getting close to 80 years old. Let me caution Axiom that more Federal indictments are coming down soon specifically for the VAX-D. The combination of VAX and Axiom would be very poetic in a number of ways if it were to happen. The VP would be back at his old stomping grounds and the FEDS could just hit one company instead of two. North American Medical (AKA South American Medical) also is meeting with VAX and so this could be an interesting showdown. Let's throw all of this in one pot, stir it up and see what the new garbage that comes out tastes like.
Result number: 79 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/05/08 at 22:30 DL Very interesting that Vax-D is up for sale. Also very interesting that Mr. Dixon has vanished. I would love to continue my discussion with him and I feel the profession and the public still deserve that Axiom Worldwide answer my questions. How is it that men in 'dark suits' (people I would perceive as Federal authorities) pay him an unannounced visit and he quickly makes an exodus from his home and job and with all of this unusual activity taking place, Axiom would acquire another business? Something doesn't add up here. I came across an article written by a PT that I personally have a great deal of respect for. I thought it would be of interest to everyone regarding the traction vs. spinal decompression semantics debate: http://physical-therapy.advanceweb.com/editorial/content/editorial.aspx?cc=22848
Result number: 80 Posted by D.L on 6/05/08 at 20:11 Greetings Dr. Wedemeyer and other interested physicians, Excuse me, but I would like to clarify a few things. The facts, as I know them. 1) Rumors are circulating that NAM may be in deep water. Accu-spina, Lordex, ABS, Z-Grav and Disc Force all fall under the same NAM umbrella. 2) As far as Mr. Dixon is concerned, I have been informed that he has moved from his home soon after an unexpected visit from 'dark suits'. No 'for sale' sign and before school completed its session. His entire family has completely VANISHED!! As I stated before, Mr. Dixon seemed to be a genuine person and a proud family man. So I wish he's alright. 3) The most surprising item at hand is not what is currently taking place with Mr. Dixon or NAM, but simply what is to be announced on Friday, June 13th. Dr. Dyer himself has decided to place Vax D up for sale, and Axiom Worldwide has accepted his proposal. That is correct, Vax D and Axiom will now be one in the same. Axiom’s entire staff will be notified of the transaction on that same date. Like it or not, this technology is NOT going anywhere. I wish you all the best, D.L PS I would suggest setting up a Google alert for Axiom & DRX9000, so you can read for yourself.
Result number: 81 Posted by Another casualty on 6/05/08 at 10:04 US sales are in the tank. The trial with competitor North American Medical is starting shortly and there is word of a class action. Gary Dixon was fired from Axiom. The feds are investigating. There is a rumor that the VP was arrested. Do we know who the Texas law firm is that is threatening class action? Forward prospects aren't looking too bright.
Result number: 82 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/04/08 at 21:38 Hmm. I did hear that there has been a Federal investigation underway for some time now. They did after all raid the Axiom Worldwide offices a while back and from what I am told the Feds removed some computers and paperwork. Maybe that's why they won't answer our inquiries. If they have nothing to hide why just stop this board to smear that one woman and her husband instead of defending themselves? Then there is the whole disappearance of Gary Dixon after he began posting here (and his weird as hell response to the Scientology question). Doesn't look very positive for them now does it?
Result number: 83 Posted by Another casualty on 6/04/08 at 21:22 I have a colleage that was pulled in by the Feds this week to discuss Axiom. This has been confirmed.
Result number: 84 Posted by Tex DC on 6/04/08 at 17:44 Dr. W, I have not heard of the one lawsuit but I have heard of the new class action. I actually got a fax at my office the other day. The firm is here texas and they are out hunting for a new big dog to bang some money out of. I think that the whole industry is in for a real crap storm as they say here in Texas. I have heard about the dr who had to go in front of his board, and as rumor has it, he is loosing his office, and license. I wonder if these cases are related: http://www.spine-health.com/treatment/chiropractic/spinal-decompression-back-pain-relief-patients-advice-part-I keep up the good work Doc Wederrmyeer, some one has to moderate this garbage blog. but now with not just axiom under the gun, I dont think anyone will use there real names as they dont want to get brought down by the boys at the FDA or worse, some other badge carrying bunch
Result number: 85 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/04/08 at 17:18 Disenfranchised DC I don;t see where we disagree, at least with regard to Axiom? ' I read this blog and disgusts me because some, not all of the machines tend to help some patients (for how long has yet to be finally mitigated or studied)'. This is the first negative comment from a doctor that I have heard about NAM. I really implore my colleagues who want to contribute to this discussion to use their real name and in the case of pending litigation to either clear it with their attorney or let us know why you cannot do so. We need a united front if we are going to change how this company does business. Thus far no nefarious characters have shown up at my office, phoned me or disturbed me in any way for my views and none of my colleagues should fear recrimination from Axiom for their OPINIONS. I am not diminishing your concerns DC,but let's face it, those who have come here making assertions that are not relevant, nasty and derisive comments and generally hostile posts are not helping matters and I am tired of being the sole Don Quixote in this western. I need your help.
Result number: 86 Posted by Another disenfranchised DC on 6/04/08 at 13:44 I respect what Dr. W says, but in this case I disagree with Dr W. This is just a heads up on YET ANOTHER LAWSUIT - Those conniving con artists and fools at Axiom have brought a whole heap of trouble into this spinal decompression industry. Every law firm in the country is smelling blood and money, and not necessarily in that order. I read this blog and disgusts me because some, not all of the machines tend to help some patients (for how long has yet to be finally mitigated or studied). My office partner just recently served on Peer Review Panel for my home state’s Chiro Board regarding a mistreatment/diagnosis/injury on a Spina machine. This poor guy bought during Nam’s FDA Warnign Letter woes and was never told to not use his machine. The wolves showed their teeth as soon as the panel convened and now they have all been subpoenaed for testimony in a class action against this manufacturer as well. To add to it, the same firm is going after Media West/Westfall for their brochures. Evidently all of the doctors in the brochure are Axiom’s and that has inflamed the aggrieved. They smell blood I tell you because they think Axiom is behind and/or supports the brochure and is profiting from it. There is an FTC issue in them, I am not clear what it is. I think the FDA is also involved now, but since I bought some, at the advice of my med school roomie in CA, I am now on their hit list. My atty is working out the details of my testimony. Before this is over we will have all spent more on attorneys than the damn machine is worth. Thanks Axiom.
Result number: 87 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/04/08 at 00:47 In some cases it does not appear as much that they are fooled as greedy. Face it if you charge every patient $5K and you see 10 decompression patients/month, that's a VERY good month. Now if you own one of these machines (or a competitors), market ethically and choose your patients based on clinically proven guidelines and realistic outcomes, you deserve to earn that type of income in my opinion. I really believe that at least one of Axiom Worldwide's competitors markets honorably and ethically. While I foresee a decline in Axiom's sales I do not believe that their actions will destroy the entire market. Statistically surgical correction of chronic low back and neck pain has a very high rate of failure. While we have great successes as chiropractors we have failures as well. The large problem is that a very small segment of the population seeks our care initially for these problems and often they become subacute or chronic needlessly by circumventing manual interventions (usually at the behest of their allopathic physician). When we change the gatekeeper for these conditions we will see a statistical decline in hospitalization, medication, surgery and chronicity of these complaints.
Result number: 88 Posted by 451 on 6/03/08 at 14:58 I understand your 4 points of light however, it is just unbelievable that chiropractors out there are still be fooled by these guys. Has the word surrounding this company not completley swept through the chiropractic ranks at this point in time? The other issue is that the owners of these DRX machines are still trying to get $2-5,000 out of their patients just so that they can pay their leases on their traction machines. How long will the charade continue?
Result number: 89 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 6/02/08 at 14:02 Please do tell us about the Vegas show and Mr. Dixon. Not everything that happens in Vegas stays in Vegas you know.....
Result number: 90 Posted by Angel Eyes on 6/01/08 at 18:41 I miss Gary Dixon's valuable insights into the traction industry. Are you coming back to LV anytime soon?
Result number: 91 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 5/27/08 at 14:57 cb You asked four questions and i will try to answer them 1. Actually I have but not in health care. 2. There's one born every minute, P.T. Barnum 3. Mainly Doctors of Chiropractic 4. Yes, their employees
Result number: 92 Posted by cb on 5/27/08 at 12:05 I have never seen a business organization so villified and despised in my life. How does this company even exist? Who are their customers? Does anyone have anything positive to say about their business practices at all?
Result number: 93 Posted by Axiom Victim on 5/24/08 at 19:40 'Oma Z offers clarity,' you are deluded. The only reason anyone's concerned about your obvious ties to Co$ is the continuing reign of ruin of all things chiropractic and anything else you and your corrupt 'congregation' collude, conspire and suck the life out of. You have happily and greedily destroyed your market by consistently traveling the low road. Singer, Prescott, your boy Exarhos, Sterling, and your other hellbound buddies have dealt significant blows to the reputation of chiropractic. Tell us all the lowest common denominator if its not your 'religion.' You know exactly why there is concern. If you don't, your an idiot.
Result number: 94 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 5/20/08 at 23:03 Dr. Pierce, Personally I have zero issue with how NAM or any of the other 'spinal decompression' (disingenuous sobriquet?) manufacturers or sells their product, only Axiom Worldwide. I wouldn't pay 100K for one of these devices nor can I afford it. Some of our colleagues have, as have a number of medical doctors (in fact NAM sells the majority of their devices to MD's). I truly believe that anyone who graduated from medical or chiropractic college is fairly intelligent and practices in the best interest of their patients. They also generally make good decisions based on that intelligence. I do not pass judgment on the ethics of those more fortunate and liquid doctors who can afford one of these tables and believes in their benefit and providing this service to their patients. The only reason that I ever responded to this thread or any thread regarding the DRX 9000 is that from its inception into our profession I have had questions about the way in which Axiom marketed to the doctor and the patient. My feelings have been reinforced by reading the threads posted by representatives of Axiom Worldwide (the last post aimed at Oma Z in particular. That post clearly was from someone in their company who is very familiar with her and her husband). There is a prevalent theme of talking around corners instead of answering our questions, bullying and threats imbued in most of these responses. I find that inappropriate for a company that sells services in the health care market. I have a very good idea what the truth is to my original question that sent Mr. Dixon over the proverbial edge. I have seen this behavior before and I am well versed in the ideation's of that group and its adherents and wish no part in their avarice, mind games and double-speak. Whether you call it traction or spinal decompression I know from professional experience that mechanical traction does have value. The companies manufacturing these new age machines are well aware of that and hopefully now will be more aware than ever that the public is watching and questioning their claims. Hopefully it will lead to better studies, outcomes and respect for this modality. I would also hope that when given the choice to undergo this procedure that the public will have accurate and honest data available to make that choice from an informed and realistic viewpoint.
Result number: 95 Posted by pierce on 5/16/08 at 09:50 Oh and thank you Diane for the update on Mr. Dixon. I am not surprised by his departure. I think a man is the totality of his surroundings and it's safe to say that he wasn't in a very good place. Maybe we will hear from him at some point. I am still hoping the other 'senior executive' from Axiom Worldwide that responded in kind to Oma Z will have the courage to address some of the implications, not limited to the false clinical study and illegal marketing tactics, NASA, etc. used by this organisation. The usual spin response usually hides behind legal morass and accusations. As long a current management stays in place this won't change however. I think it's an 'us against the world' management philosopy. They have some interesting company in this respect-Ebbers, Skilling, Lay....
Result number: 96 Posted by pierce on 5/16/08 at 09:27 I believe that verbal attack on Oma was written by a 'senior executive' at Axiom Worldwide. I have no doubt, on second thought. This is an indication of the smug attitude of this company. This is what led them into their mess and will continue to bog down their company. The senior leadership here is beyond remorse.
Result number: 97 Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 5/15/08 at 21:31 I cannot imagine that anyone other than those having a financial interest in spinal decompression would have bothered to take the time to write that pathetic and very personal attack. Oma Z was not attacking you; I was the one who asked Gary Dixon if Axiom Worldwide was headed up by Scientologists. As I and pbr pointed out, it was Gary Dixon who ranted on ridiculously about that one question and he answered it although very obliquely. Now I am certain that I do not believe his response based on subsequent posts. 'Me thinks thou doth protest too much' Get your facts straight before you publicly excoriate a woman and denigrate her religion, if she is in fact religious at all. How anathema and small is the man who attacks a woman in such a personal and shameful manner? Are these the people that we want to do business with and trust to sell us on their therapy and product? Constrain your answers to the matters at hand and show some maturity and less venom because I can promise you that more eyes are watching this thread than you could ever imagine. It does not suit you well to behave in such derogatory and pusillanimous fashion whether or not your company has ongoing litigation with this woman and her husband. It just makes you a bully and a nasty one at that. Shame on you.
Result number: 98 Posted by D.L on 5/15/08 at 21:00 Dr. Pierce? I am not sure if you are the same individual I've met from Jacksonville. Nevertheless, I just wanted to make one thing clear before Mr. Dixon's departure gets misconstrued on this board. I have met Mr. Dixon on 3 occasions, including once with his family. He is quite humorous in fact and without question a family man. His departure took many people at Axiom by surprise, including myself. Mr. Dixon has decided to end this chapter of his life and spend some quality time with his family. I wish him the best.
Result number: 99 Posted by m.pierce on 5/15/08 at 13:12 Thank you for your keen insight. Now that we have an Axiom rep back on this board will you please answer two questions: Why was Mr. Dixon fired? Are you going to respond to any of the questions posed? MP
Result number: 100 Posted by Oma Z offers clarity on 5/15/08 at 11:52 At long last Oma Z the self appointed and exiled queen of us all in the spinal decompression world has offered some clarity on this discussion board. Now it has become personal for her. This has never been about Axiom or their supposedly intolerable business practices, it is about a conflict and the failure to have one in her personal life as it relates to religion and money, as the two are hardly ever mutually exclusive. I have not viewed this web board for some time, then a colleague told me that it was getting quite interesting and that I should have another look. And just like that I tune in and shazam, it hits me, the righteous and moralistic west falls are at it again. You can not legislate morality by imposing or criticizing ones religious beliefs onto others. The US Constitution even says so, if you need a copy I will provide one to you. It holds the balance of free speech and religion as constants, even an atheist can have back pain. I suppose that by trying to paint the Axiom folks out as scientology zealots will further the westfall plight to collect on some sham lawsuit. Now would it surprise our message board readers that the westfall’s are mormons? Bet you didn’t know that now huh? And since they chose to paint with such a broad brush I guess that they are polygamists. Tell me what compound in Texas do you belong to? Tell me, what does scientology have to do with honesty or dishonesty? Aren’t all religions corruptible? Simply hypocritical morons, not very mormon of you to find the good in us all. What would the good book and the prophet joseph smith have to say for your sinister preaching’s and hypocritical livelihood? But then again it doesn’t mater, because mormon’s don’t believe in heaven anyway, they might as well make it hell on earth for all of us as well.
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