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Message Number 264723
Re: Morton's Neuroma View Thread
Posted by Janice A on 4/18/10 at 17:44

I've had Morton's neuroma for about 3 years now and have tired non-invasive procedures with a degree of success, but currently I have been in terrible pain. My doctor is fearful that if I have surgery for these neuromas which are in both feet, I may develop a stump neuroma and will regret the surgery. I cannot function currently. Please state your opinion of stump neuromas and cryosurgery. Thanks.

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Message Number 262696

Re: NY Times and Physical Therapy View Thread
Posted by Dr. DSW on 1/09/10 at 12:50

Janice,

In case you didn't notice, this section is not for your editorial comment. It is titled 'ask the doctors'. It is for patients to either ask the medical professionals a question, or is for the medical professionals to answer a question.

It is not for non-medical professionals to comment or editorialize. There are several other message boards on this site for that purpose. The rules are clearly written on the page in bold red.

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Message Number 262692

Re: NY Times and Physical Therapy View Thread
Posted by janice on 1/09/10 at 08:04

I think that Gina Kolata is an excellent writer and what she suggests should not be taken lightly. Of course everyone has their own individual histories with PT. I have my own with PF, neuromas and piriformis and ITB. All related running injuries and frankly I am in agreement with Ms. Kolata. Lots of 'voodoo'. My own personal experience has suggested that custom orthotics are expensive and over the counter ones work equally as well. But I do feel the article is worth reading and thinking about.

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Message Number 262681

Re: NY Times and Physical Therapy View Thread
Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 1/08/10 at 16:45

Janice this is an opinion piece based on a literature review of current studies on PF treatment specific to PT. I have not read the entire literature review but I thank you for bringing it to our attention.

The Landorf PF study is often quoted out of context to reach the desired conclusion that custom orthoses are no more effective than prefabricated, off-the-shelf devices. It is one of the better studies done on orthotic therapy for PF and many of us were not delighted with the results to be fair, but it is one study and has yet to be reproduced. I can provide a long list of other studies which effectively counter the Landorf paper. Certainly more research needs to be done and the industry is not very standardized.

I hope that you will take the time to read this thread:

http://heel.server327.com/bbs/http://heel.server327.com/bbs/bbv.cgi?n=262576

As for PT modalities I plainly disagree with the suggestion that PT treatments are a waste of time or the suggestion that many are 'voodoo'. Just because there is no definitive double-blinded study supporting a treatment or procedure does not render it clinically useless.

Since PF is a multi-factorial entity I suggest that PT should always be a part of the treatment, at least initially. Specificity of that treatment on a case by case basis would improve outcomes I would bet.

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Message Number 262671

NY Times and Physical Therapy View Thread
Posted by janice on 1/08/10 at 08:42

this is a must read for all those suffering from injuries including PF. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/health/nutrition/07best.html

Quoting Dr. Irrgant who concluded that for PF, physical therapy treatments like massage, stretching and taping have little evidence to support them. there is some evidence, not particularly convincing, that stretching can provide short term pain relief. But the best treatment for PF, orthotic inserts for your shoes, is the only one with a body of consistent (thought not definitive) research behind it and it may not even require a PT. It does not even require a doctor. And the studies indicate, off-the-shelf orthotics are just as effective as custom made ones......

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Message Number 260751

Re: Phenoxybenazamine/CRPS treatment View Thread
Posted by Dr. DSW on 9/22/09 at 06:20

Janice,

No, I personally have not heard of the use of this combination, but that doesn't mean that it's not an acceptable or effective treatment protocol.

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Message Number 260730

Phenoxybenazamine/CRPS treatment View Thread
Posted by Janice H on 9/21/09 at 06:46

I have been diagnosed with low grade CRPS following an ankle fracture 3-4 months ago. I have been doing plenty of research and have found some info in the use of Phenoxybenzamine and Nifedipine, claiming good results in curing this condition if used in the first 3 months of diagnosis. I am keen to try this treatment, at present my foot is improving Im doing a lot of foot exercises but concerned It could regress, and wonder if the drug treatment is warranted.Has anyone heard of this treatment and the success rate. Janice H

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Message Number 260218

CRPS/MORTENS NEUROMA View Thread
Posted by Janice H on 8/31/09 at 02:09

I HAVE RECENTLY BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH LOW GRADE CRPS FOLLOWING ANKLE FRACTURE. IHAVE A VERY PAINFUL AREA AT THE BASE OF MY 3RD TOE, THE AREA IS SWOLLEN,WARM,AND MY FOOT IS PINK. COULD I HAVE A MORTENS NEUROMA,ARE THE SYMPTOMS AT ALL SIMILAR TO CRPS. MY ANKLE FRACTURE WAS TREATED IN A MOON BOOT THE VELCROSE STRAP DID COVER THE AREA WHERE THE PAIN NOW IS. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR A NEUROMA TO FORM FROM THAT IRRITATION( BOOT ON 5-6 WKS BUT OFF AT NIGHT). Thanks Janice H

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Message Number 260217

CRPS/MORTENS NEUROMA View Thread
Posted by Janice H on 8/31/09 at 02:05

I HAVE RECENTLY BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH LOW GRADE CRPS FOLLOWING ANKLE FRACTURE. IHAVE A VERY PAINFUL AREA AT THE BASE OF MY 3RD TOE, THE AREA IS SWOLLEN,WARM,AND MY FOOT IS PINK. COULD I HAVE A MORTENS NEUROMA,ARE THE SYMPTOMS AT ALL SIMILAR TO CRPS. MY ANKLE FRACTURE WAS TREATED IN A MOON BOOT THE VELCROSE STRAP DID COVER THE AREA WHERE THE PAIN NOW IS. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR A NEUROMA TO FORM FROM THAT IRRITATION( BOOT ON 5-6 WKS BUT OFF AT NIGHT). Thanks Janice H

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Message Number 260216

CRPS/MORTENS NEUROMA View Thread
Posted by Janice H on 8/31/09 at 02:01

I HAVE RECENTLY BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH LOW GRADE CRPS FOLLOWING ANKLE FRACTURE. IHAVE A VERY PAINFUL AREA AT THE BASE OF MY 3RD TOE, THE AREA IS SWOLLEN,WARM,AND MY FOOT IS PINK. COULD I HAVE A MORTENS NEUROMA,ARE THE SYMPTOMS AT ALL SIMILAR TO CRPS. MY ANKLE FRACTURE WAS TREATED IN A MOON BOOT THE VELCROSE STRAP DID COVER THE AREA WHERE THE PAIN NOW IS. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR A NEUROMA TO FORM FROM THAT IRRITATION( BOOT ON 5-6 WKS BUT OFF AT NIGHT). Thanks Janice H

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Message Number 260167

042 View Thread
Posted by Janice H on 8/29/09 at 08:18

Have recently posted questions ,re diagnosis of crps post # ankle. As I have a lot of pain and some swelling in the forefoot particularly below my 3rd toe, is it possible I could have aMortens Neuroma.My whole foot continues to be warm and pink. Could a neuroma form post ankle # treated in a moon boot. My ortho spec has stated I only need to see physio,but have had advice from P4P doctor to try and get experienced help ASAP. I am working on getting a referral but it just doesn't happen as quickly as one would like. Can someone please quote on the possibility of neuroma.Thanks JH

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Message Number 260161

Re: chronic regional pain sydrome post fractured ankle View Thread
Posted by Janice H on 8/28/09 at 20:11

Thanks for previous comments,have since spoken to a GP about my problems, she has started me on amitriptyline 20mg.Also trying to find someone who understands the prob, I live in Nth QLD AUST not to many specialists, dont spose you know of anyone in Aust. My Dr made the suggestion that it could be A Mortons Neuroma. I have a very painful area at the base of my 3rd toe thou the pain is also over the forefoot, I still have warmth and discolouration of the whole foot, does that sound possible.

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Message Number 260027

Re: in remission again !!! View Thread
Posted by Janice H on 8/23/09 at 22:58

Hi Rekha, have reading thru some posts from RSD sufferers I am newly diagnosed and would be interesed to hear of your experiences with nerve blocks, how soon after diagnoses did you have treatment and in what form. Thanks Janice

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Message Number 259958

Re: chronic regional pain sydrome post fractured ankle View Thread
Posted by Dr. DSW on 8/21/09 at 05:49

Janice,

I am not aware of any correlation between those two disorders. However, I will once again reiterate the importance of seeking the care of a neurologist, physiatrist or pain management specialist TODAY!!!!

CRPS must be dealt with aggressively, but most importantly by a doctor that understands and treats this disorder on a regular basis, not 'once in a while'. If you are fortunate enough to live near a major university teaching hospital, that would be a great resource.

Please make your call today.

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Message Number 259942

Re: chronic regional pain sydrome post fractured ankle View Thread
Posted by Janice H on 8/20/09 at 19:29

Many thanks for your advice, recently contacted my ortho dr again who states no further treatment is needed. I was surprised he was astute enough to diagnose the problem the first time I presented with the symptoms,but seems unfamilular with the urgent need for treatment. I just wonder if another Dr will come to the same conclusion,as I guess I will need a referral to be reviewed by the specialist's you have mentioned. I have now developed a rather sore hip, for no apparent reason could this be connected CRPS, I am exercising my foot and hip daily taking brufen and panadol for pain.Thanks again for your help, as you can imagine my mental health is starting to suffer my mother died from ALS and I have always been fearful of ending up with that, is there any connection in these diseases. Thanks Janice

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Message Number 259907

chronic regional pain sydrome post fractured ankle View Thread
Posted by Janice H on 8/20/09 at 06:02

Diagnosed 1 week ago after fracture 12 weeks ago. Ortho Spec states physio is all that is needed condition will take12to 18 months to come good. Research on subject seems this is a difficult condition to overcome,drugs such as gabopentin and amytiptoline have been suggested. Dr says physio will fix problem,what should I do

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Message Number 254257

Re: NEED Good Orthotics!! View Thread
Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 1/23/09 at 00:28

Janice all of the brands that you have mentioned are not orthotics, they are over-the-counter inserts. Have you seen a physician foot specialist or been referred to a certified pedorthist? Were you casted for custom orthoses?

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Message Number 254256

NEED Good Orthotics!! View Thread
Posted by janice H on 1/23/09 at 00:18

I am very tired of the orthotics that I bought. I have tried Cosco, e soles, roadrunner new orthotics, super feet. I have had many different problems including not enough arch support, perinieal pain, foot ache, knee swelling. I have tried these brands for a minimum of a month to a max of six months. I have PF really bad in my right leg from running.I am not over weight at all and I have very, very high arches that give me grief!! Help its been 6 months and the pain goes from 7 - 10 in a level of pain!! Thank God I could get my money back on the ones that didn't work!

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Message Number 250844

Re: Topaz Procedure View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 10/05/08 at 14:16

No, I didn't ask him, but I will. He just was so confident that the two together would work. How successful is the Topaz surgery? He said ESWT didn't work. I really haven't searched for a doc that does ESWT yet. I'm in the Modesto, CA area if anyone knows of one.

I just need to get better. Thank you so much for your replies.

Janice

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Message Number 250753

Re: Topaz Procedure View Thread
Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 10/03/08 at 15:23

Janice I am not a surgeon, perhaps Drs. Wander, Davis or Zuckerman could discuss your future treatment; ESWT vs. Topaz & partial release.

I wish you a speedy recovery and hope you find resolution of your complaint.

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Message Number 250727

Topaz Procedure View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 10/03/08 at 11:56

Dr. Wedemeyer,

The last time we talked my next option was Topaz or ESWT after Graston and ART did not work. I saw a Podiatrist/Surgeon and he wants to do the Topaz along with a partial PF release. He seems quite confident that this will take care of the PF.

What do you think?

Thanks so much,

Janice

Result number: 21

Message Number 250338

Re: PF Update and shoe question View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 9/19/08 at 18:28

Jeremy,

Thank you so much for all that info. I'm really excited now to find the right shoe.

Janice

Result number: 22

Message Number 250327

Re: PF Update and shoe question View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 9/19/08 at 11:04

Thanks, Jeremy. My doc put cushioning in my orthotics from the beginning but I'll ask him if he can do more for me. Can you tell me which athletic shoe and casual shoe have the most cushion in the heal? What about Nike Shocks or Nike Experience? They look like they might work.

Dr. Wedemeyer, You mentioned the next step for me if Graston and ART didn't work was ESWT or Topaz surgery. So far I have not located any doc that does this. I've tried the FootTrainer several times but haven't gotten any results. Do you think I should try it again now that most of my scar tissue is gone from Graston? I do the non weight bearing stretches every day. Also, would it be helpful to continue the Graston once a month? Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I keep plugging along hoping something will work. Four years is a long time to be dealing with this.

Thanks. Janice

Result number: 23

Message Number 250239

PF Update and shoe question View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 9/16/08 at 11:33

Dr. Wedemeyer and Jeremy,

Thank you so much for all the help you have given me in the past. Here's follow up to keep you posted. I finished the Graston and ART and have some improvement. I also did 5 weeks of acupuncture but it didn't do anything and am still doing lots of stretching. I have been wearing my Montrail flip flops most of the time and have almost no pain with them except some when standing. When I wear my new Asics Gel Landruth with my custom orthotics my feet hurt 10 times more when standing. I just love the softness with the Montrails. What do you think about me wearing the Montrails all the time? Now with winter approaching I can't wear them as much. I don't know what shoe to buy next. My feet are average, normal heal, flexible and somewhat flat when standing (not totally), a little pronation. I have had PF for 4 years now. Thanks again, Janice

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Message Number 247164

Re: Graston & ART for plantar fasciosis View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 5/28/08 at 22:36

I will get you posted. I hope to give a good report. janice

Result number: 25

Message Number 247139

Re: Graston & ART for plantar fasciosis View Thread
Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 5/27/08 at 23:11

My pleasure Janice. Goos luck and keep us posted please

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Message Number 247137

Re: Graston & ART for plantar fasciosis View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 5/27/08 at 22:54

Dr. Wedemeyer,

I seem to have a good range of motion in my ankle, but I'll have that checked to be sure. Thanks so much for your help again.

Thanks, Janice

Result number: 27

Message Number 247129

Re: Graston & ART for plantar fasciosis View Thread
Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 5/27/08 at 18:46

Janice,

If you are not experiencing results within that time frame in my practice you would be referred out to a DPM who provides ESWT or the Topaz procedure.

As I recall you had more difficulty standing and that would aggravate your PF. I would advise that you be evaluated for equinus of the ankle because it will hinder your progress if present. Passive stretching is indicated.

Result number: 28

Message Number 247127

Re: Graston & ART for plantar fasciosis View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 5/27/08 at 18:24

Thank you, Dr. Wedemeyer. I'll just make two appts per week for two more weeks, then I'm off for vacation for awhile.

When you say re-evaluate, what other options would I have?

Janice

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Message Number 247116

Re: Graston & ART for plantar fasciosis View Thread
Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 5/27/08 at 10:38

Janice in my opinion you are being over treated. Treatment with Graston could be 3 times in the first week but a more appropriate schedule would be 2 times per week for 4 weeks then re-evaluate. I also would not necessarily perform Graston and ART on the same visits. Passive stretching (and ice) following Graston is indicated, ART is active stretching and probably just too much during your instrument treatments.

Result number: 30

Message Number 247108

Graston & ART for plantar fasciosis View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 5/26/08 at 23:33

Hi Dr. W,

If you don't mind, I need some more help from you. I have had five treatmens of Graston and ART (at the same time)from a Chiro and am wondering how often I should get them. I went F/M/W/F/M in a row and today after my treatment I tried a little miniature golf and my feet hurt worse than they have in a long time. When will they heal if he does this every other day? He keeps scraping removing scar tissue and knots at each visit. He is very good but he thinks I should be getting better by the next couple treatments. Any comments?

Am getting really discouraged but I keep on trying to get better.

Thanks. Janice

Result number: 31

Message Number 246857

Re: First visit to CPed View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 5/15/08 at 14:43

Thanks, Jeremy. Just what I needed to know. Janice

Result number: 32

Message Number 246836

First visit to CPed View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 5/14/08 at 12:10

Jeremy, I have PF for 3 1/2 yrs and have custom orthotics. However, I still do not know what shoe is best for me as no doc has really told me details about my feet. I think they are flexible and flat. Can you tell me what to expect from a CPed. I just want to be prepared when I meet with him. What sort of things should he be looking for to determine what shoe is best for me?

Thanks, Janice

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Message Number 242590

Re: Pinnacles View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 1/30/08 at 18:20

Jeremy, thanks alot. Janice

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Message Number 242577

Re: Pinnacles View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 1/30/08 at 15:14

Thank you so much. Is there anyway we can get this to Jeremy for his comments on shoe gear? Thanks for the encouragement.

Janice

Result number: 35

Message Number 242565

Re: Pinnacles View Thread
Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 1/30/08 at 12:56

Langer is an old and very good lab Janice. That product looks very similar to some of the orthoses that I dispense for a rigid cavus foot (classic evertor with PF). I am guessing that this is your situation and if so then that orthosis is appropriate and adding arch fill would produce the scenario in the previous post; compensatory supination and added stress on the PF.

Remember that your arch (and particularly the navicular bone will diminish to varying degrees based on the flexibility of your foot. Your podiatrist can modify them or the lab can based on his rx, discuss it with him please.

The NB 1122 is motion control and cushioning shoe with a medial post. Personally I wouldn't choose this shoe for a rigid cavus foot (evertor) with an orthosis. Maybe Jeremy will expound more on this.

Unfortunately despite our best efforts and due to the chronicity of many complaints, it is not always an expedient resolution of symptoms that occurs with orthoses and foot wear. Time is your friend, as is following your doctors orders and he must be willing to try different shoe gear on you.

Result number: 36

Message Number 242559

Re: Pinnacles View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 1/30/08 at 10:37

Yes, he put pieces of tape (I assume like a plastar cast) on my feet and tilted them both so I would walk properly. They are called BlueLine by Langer. There is a layer of cork in them.

I googled Blueline and found them http://www.kidisplint.com/lower_foot.html. Scroll down 3/4 way down til you find Blueline.

I wear New Balance 1122's all the time.

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Message Number 242557

Re: Pinnacles View Thread
Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 1/30/08 at 10:01

Janice although arch height is an important consideration in the rx, it is only one of several considerations. Your foot type, flexible vs. rigid (which determines the material), your big toe and how it functions during push off, your heel alignment static and during gait etc are large factors as well.

What matters is how well you are evaluated, how much knowledge and experience your doctor has and ultimately how comfortable and effective the orthoses are. I would think that your podiatrist has much more training and experience prescribing and dispensing foot orthoses. Some podiatrists do not focus on orthotic dispensing and biomechanics just as some DC's have made it a priority and are very effective, but they are the exception.

That is not always true but I know this factually since I am a DC with pedorthic training. Knowing this I also know that one of the most common errors that many doctors make is simply 'filling in the arch' as if that were the Holy Grail of treatment for PF. Too high an arch can cause a compensatory supination of the foot which can greatly exacerbate the plantar fascia. Also the shoe wear is an integral part of the equation as the orthosis will only be as efficient as the shoes allow.

This in mind your orthoses may be appropriate and your shoes need a second look and possibly modification. This is the problem when seeking this type of conservative treatment. Although there are standards that exist for orthotic therapy there appear to be many variations practiced by all of the providers. Do your homework and discuss it with your pod is my advice.

Did your podiatrist take a plaster cast of your foot?

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Message Number 242556

Re: Pinnacles View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 1/30/08 at 08:55

Thanks Dr. Wedemeyer for your quick response. I expressed to my new pod at the time I got the orthotics (about 5 mos. ago) that they didn't have much arch support but he said that they were what he wanted for me. It's not that the arch is not supported but not as high as these Pinnacles. My chiropractor looked at my orthotics and said these won't do much. I've had my PF for over three years now and I just want to wear something that is beneficial, is the higher arch better or will the lessor support still work?

I had cryosurgery in both feet three months ago and it did nothing for me. Then I did five laser treatments (chiropractor) no change. Now I'm trying the Bowen treatments and reflexology.

Thanks again. Janice

Result number: 39

Message Number 242542

Re: Pinnacles View Thread
Posted by Dr. Wedemeyer on 1/29/08 at 20:23

I do recall your case from a few months back Janice. I would think that if a reliable provider casted your orthotics that they should be more appropriate and beneficial than any OTC device. If you are still having trouble with your casted orthoses I would discuss it with your doctor and have him/her revisit your prescription.

If no rx was provided then the onus of modifying the device lies with whomever casted and dispensed it. Pinnacles work great for some patients and foot types and not as well for others, just as certain procedures and medications have different effects on different people.

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Message Number 242525

Pinnacles View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 1/29/08 at 16:52

I've been wearing my new Pinnacles for about a week and they seem to hurt my feet more than my custom orthotics (cast made w Plaster) which had hardly any arch support. Should I just gradually get used to them?

Thanks. Janice

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Message Number 238590

Surgery on Wed., should I cancel? View Thread
Posted by Janice K on 10/29/07 at 10:57

I have hallux rigidus and I am scheduled for surgery on Wed. After reading all the posts, I am ready to cancel. I've had pain for years in my right toe after walking and of course cannot wear heels. My motivation was to have the surgery so that I can travel, walk around cities, etc, without pain. My dr. made it sound like the surgery was not a big deal...clean out the joint, take off the bone spurs....that's it. If I wait and not do the surgery, will it get worse? Will I eventually have to have a joint replacement? Thanks.

Result number: 42

Message Number 238589

Re: cheilectomy recovery timetable? View Thread
Posted by Janice K on 10/29/07 at 10:51

I am having a cheilictomy on Wed. My podiatrist said I could return to work in 2 weeks. He said the operation would hurt, but didn't begin to talk about the horror stories I've just read here. And...does everyone have to go to PT afterwards? I am 53 and wanted this done because of years of pain. Not able to go on walks, do the treadmill...I want to start travelling alot again and just can't walk for a long time. I am only in pain, tho, after walking alot. Cannot wear heels except Dansko, which is fine. The dr. did not tell me what state the hallus is in, and I didn't know to ask. So. Now I am thinking of cancelling. If I cancel, will the joint just continue to get worse? You all have me very scared. I'm not sure now if it is worth it.

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Message Number 234118

Re: mortons neroma View Thread
Posted by JaniceS on 8/09/07 at 10:53

I've had a diagnosis of a Morton's Neuroma and surgery will take place very soon. I have read about cutting the ligament (DTML) and removing the neuroma and nerves. I have to chose between the 2 or have both which is what my surgeon recommends. Can you give me any advice. The neuroma is 'a good size' and I've been told this gives me a better success rate. But I worry that cutting the ligament will change the way my foot works and will create other problems with posture. I already have a pain in my thigh muscle caused by pronation because of the neuroma. Otherwise I am young, fit and heathly and used to being able to go jogging. Any information and examples would be really appreciated, many thanks.

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Message Number 234116

Re: Dr. Z. View Thread
Posted by JaniceS on 8/09/07 at 10:48

I've had a diagnosis of a Morton's Neuroma and surgery will take place very soon. I have read about cutting the ligament (DTML) and removing the neuroma and nerves. I have to chose between the 2 or have both which is what my surgeon recommends. Can you give me any advice. The neuroma is 'a good size' and I've been told this gives me a better success rate. But I worry that cutting the ligament will change the way my foot works and will create other problems with posture. I already have a pain in my thigh muscle caused by pronation because of the neuroma. Otherwise I am young, fit and heathly and used to being able to go jogging. Any information and examples would be really appreciated, many thanks.

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Message Number 234113

Re: Morton's Neuroma; Surgical Options? View Thread
Posted by JaniceS on 8/09/07 at 09:17

Any suggestions on deep transverse metatarsal ligament cutting versus removal of neuroma and surounding nerves. I have a medium size neuroma which showed up on an ultrasound scan between 3rd and 4th toes and have been recommeded surgery. I have given the option of either or both and would like some more information to help me decided. I read Dr Ed's comments with interest but would be grateful to anyone for help with this decision. Specifically I like to know what effects excising the ligament might have on stability and strength of the foot.

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Message Number 231762

Re: cheilectomy recovery timetable? View Thread
Posted by janicem on 6/18/07 at 11:22

I had a cheilectomy on Wednesday, June 13th. I think it went very well. The block they gave me last over 24 hours so I had no pain until day 2...then the vicodin helped for the next day and a half. On day 3 my foot barely hurt so I stopped vicodin. (note: the vicodin constipated me...no fun!) I was surprised that they didn't want me to ice it at all. My entire foot and ankle was bandaged. Only my little fat swollen toes were sticking out. I am wearing a very ugly flat footed boot. Today I go back to the doctor to have the original bandage removed. I guess we'll see what happens next! My husband has planned a 3 week road trip and we want to leave next weekend. I need to get the stitches out before we can leave so I guess it will all depend on how fast I heal. Should be interesting!!

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Message Number 230217

Re: Hallux Limitus View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 5/21/07 at 08:35

Janice:

Then it sounds like it is time to go back to you doc and ask questions.

Dr. Ed

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Message Number 230204

Re: Hallux Limitus View Thread
Posted by janice M on 5/20/07 at 18:40

I have never been told about any 'stages'.

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Message Number 230185

Re: Hallux Limitus View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 5/20/07 at 11:41

Janice:

It is possible for hallux limitus to get worse over time although I would not necessarily use that reason to have surgery sooner than later.
Please click on the active link for hallux limitus to look at treatment options for the various stage of hallux limitus. What stage is your hallux limitus in?

Dr. Ed

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Message Number 230182

Hallux Limitus View Thread
Posted by janice M on 5/20/07 at 10:18

I am a 57 year old (in good health & very active) bartender who has been diagnosed with Hallux Limitus & Exostosis. I am on my feet approximately 7 hours a day, 4 days a week. I have pain but it's not unbearable. Sometimes I take Ibuprophen. If I wear heels then I suffer the next few days. I love shoes but am limited to what I can stand to wear at work. I am scheduled for a cheilectomy on June 13. I am having the surgery because I want to be able to wear all types of shoes. I was told I would be off work for 4-6 weeks. Approximately 10 days after the surgery, my husband has us going on a 3 week road trip in a cabover camper. I won't be driving and I will be able to keep my foot evevated. I don't see that I will have to do much walking....and if we do, I can use crutches. Am I crazy for having the surgery now....even though I'm not in a lot of pain....and for going on this road trip so soon afterwards? If I can continue to stand the pain, am I hurting my chance for this same surgery a year from now? Does it get worse and I will need a different type of surgery if I wait?

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Re: PF pain only occurs while standing for a while View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/27/07 at 16:53

Dr. Wedemeyer, To answer your questions: 1) I have some pain at ball under 2-4th toes but mostly that's when I'm standing too long and the whole bottom of my foot hurts. Not nearly as painful as heals and arches. 2) No ankle pain. 3)I can feel a pulling at back of my heal sometimes and even along the outside of my heals. I especially noticed this when I was wearing the flat Montrail flip flops as opposed to my higher Spiras the last few days.

Before I went to my pod I went to an orthopedic doc. I did PT and she ordered orthotics from a prothetics place that were plaster cast. The orthotics were made exactly to my natural arch and weren't as high as Good Feet store's that I got after the custom ones didn't seem to work. When the pod (not Ortho doc) saw the custom orthotic he said that they wouldn't do much.

I don't know if my foot is more rigid or not. My big toes don't have much flexibility because I had bunion surgury on them about 10 years ago.

Thanks so much for your interest and feedback. I hope I answered the questions so you could get a better picture.

Janice

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Re: PF pain only occurs while standing for a while View Thread
Posted by David G. Wedemeyer, DC on 4/27/07 at 13:56

Janice, It's really difficult to offer anything but suggestions on a board but I would suggest an orthopedic foot & ankle specialist or podiatrist evaluate you. If this is primarily an achilles, soleus muscle dysfunction PT may help a lot along with the proper orthosis.

Do you have any pain at the ball under at the 2nd-4th toes or inside of the ankle just below the malleolus (the bumps on either side of the ankle)or at the heel in the back?

Cross-friction can be done every other day, ice frequently afterwards and wear supportive footwear. When they made your 'custom hard orthotics' did they use plaster to cast you or a foam impression box and was this done by the pod? Some people have a more rigid foot and require an accommodative rather than a rigid orthosis.

DW

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Re: PF pain only occurs while standing for a while View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/27/07 at 11:45

Dr. Wedemeyer, The cause of my PF was wearing poor non-supportive shoes. I know I did the major damage wearing wimpy sandals on concrete for 4 days in Las Vegas. In the last 2 1/2 yrs. I have worn custom hard orthotics, then Good Feet orthotics, then Dr. Kiper's and none of them helped with the pain when standing, plus I wear Spira walking shoes.

I went to a pod about 2 years ago and he said that I did not have any mechanical foot problems, just a little stiffness in my achilles. He told me to just wear higher heals and that was it. I am going to another pod next month. Although I'm not sure why because I don't want the shots and no surgery.

How often should I do the cross friction massage? Thanks again.

Janice

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Re: PF pain only occurs while standing for a while View Thread
Posted by David G. Wedemeyer, DC on 4/27/07 at 11:01

Janice,

cross-friction massage is very simple, even to perform yourself. For PF start at the inside edge of the heel and work about an inch towards the middle of the foot. The motion is side to side not the length of the foot and use pressure to your tolerance. It's going to be painful in some cases yes. The key is to work slowly and deep and in time you'll feel the attachment of the PF to the heel (if you use your thumb) but you can roll on the ball as well. I use an instrument sometimes since the goal is to cause a new minor trauma to the tissue to engage new healing, I am sure you'll be much kinder than I would about it to yourself :)

Waldies I just don't like at all but the Montrail is a good shoe. The Cped's here know a great deal more about individual shoes than I do so maybe they can answer this better. As for Goodfeet I am also not a fan of their 'inserts'. You should be evaluated by a doc for dysfunction of the foot (if you haven't already). What is the cause of your PF? I find a lot of patients develop their PF from arch related changes and improper footwear over time. I have yet to see a PF case that did not resolve when a prescription orthotic was necessary and provided along with the appropriate shoes (and therapy).

DW

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Re: PF pain only occurs while standing for a while View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/27/07 at 10:21

Dr. Wedemeyer. Thanks so much for your response and information. I know how I got my PF by walking in flat, wimpy sandals for 4 days on concrete in Las Vegas. Does that give you any other thoughts about what I should be doing? Also, just sitting with my heels resting on the floor causes pain. Could this be nerve damage?

About the green ball. Can you explain how I can duplicate the cross friction massage you mentioned on the ball? Do I apply enough pressure to cause pain? Do I apply pressure directly on the heal? Do I massage from toe to heal?

I read an article by Michael Young and he said applying heat is best since applying ice does not promote blood circulation. What do you think about that?

I'm doing the shot gun approach as you suggest. I'll have to admit many times I have started something and have not been faithful to stick to it long enough to get results. Right now I'm doing deep massage with green ball, Julie's yoga stretches, night splints (that's a tough one), heat and rest.

If you don't mind, one more question. I've been wearing my Montrail moldable flip flops the last few days as I've been having pain with my Good Feet store orthotics and Spiras. I've also ordered some Waldies that everyone seems to rave about. Will the Montrail flip flops and Waldies be ok for me to wear?

Thanks. I'll going to try journaling too....

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Re: PF pain only occurs while standing for a while View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 4/24/07 at 14:15

Dr. Wedemeyer, D.C.:

I am not sure why you said to me, 'Yes, 'scar tissue' is a real concept, Dorothy.'

I happen to be an extremely well educated, well informed, well read accomplished individual but even if I were not, I would think that most people realize that 'scar tissue is real'. It is, however, NOT a 'concept', Dr. Wedemeyer. It is a tangible, visible tissue manifestation - as you surely know. I believe you are a chiropractor, isn't that correct?

Janice asked posters about the use of a firm 'green ball' breaking up scar tissue and I replied to her that I did not know if it actually breaks up scar tissue, but that it has that FEEL to it. I was not - good grief! - questioning the existence of scar tissue. I was responding - to her - about my experience with the 'green ball' and my perception of its effectiveness on foot pain.

I hope this clears up any misconceptions you may have had.

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Re: PF pain only occurs while standing for a while View Thread
Posted by David G. Wedemeyer, DC on 4/24/07 at 11:40

Janice you are correct and this is an important point with regard to PF (or any fascial or ligamentous injury). Without getting too specific typical PF pain is caused by micro trauma to the fascia, especially at it's medial insertion at the inner heel.

These soft tissues undergo the same protective changes seen in tendinitis (osis). The reason the ball you have discussed is so beneficial is that it is very similar in it's action to cross-friction massage, which is very beneficial to aid in the healing process. You're basically causing a new minor insult to the tissues to engage proper healing.

Although there are many modalities that speed recovery in PF in my own opinion after treating a lot of these cases conservatively, nothing is as effective as the shotgun approach; ice, ultrasound baths, electrical stimulation, stretching and orthotics/inserts and of course soft-tissue cross-friction massage. Increasing your vitamin C intake (along with trace amounts of manganese, copper, selenium, zinc and MSM) is also beneficial. Together these co-factors cross-link new collagen formation.

On the issue of 'scar tissue', this process is termed fibrosis. The net result of this change in tissue is decreased elasticity and increased vascularity and innervation leading to increased sensitivity. Yes 'scar tissue' is a real concept Dorothy.

DW

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Re: PF pain only occurs while standing for a while View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 4/23/07 at 19:45

Janice F

I'm not a doctor or any kind of medical professional so I really can't answer about scar tissue. I do use a green ball with little raised 'points' on it - called the FootRubz - that another poster recommended here last year or so. This ball is fairly hard so you can really get some pressure into it and that is how I use it - rolling my foot over it with, with pressure, as much as I can take; sometimes that is quite a lot and sometimes not so much. It feels as though it would be 'breaking up' scar tissue but I can't really say what it is doing. All I know is that it usually helps reduce a painful episode, not always, but usually. I've recently been developing some new, troublesome symptoms and this procedure doesn't seem to be helping as much as it previously did...but I'm hopeful it will again soon.

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Re: PF pain only occurs while standing for a while View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/23/07 at 17:43

Pain standing is exactly what I have had for almost three years. The podiatrist would not diagnose me with pf since there was no pain when pressure was applied by touch. I've tried several orthotics and nothing seems to work. Now I've got a flare up to where I can't even walk. Maybe what we have is scar tissue that needs to be broken up. I have one of those green rubber balls (size of golf ball) made for messaging pf. Would doing this with lots of pressure break up the scar tissue? Anyone??

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Re: Inflammation View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/26/06 at 10:30

Thank you so much, that does clear it up. Can you expound on "compression"?

Thanks again. Janice

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Re: Inflammation View Thread
Posted by Robert J. Sanfilippo, DC, CCSP, ART on 4/25/06 at 17:40

Janice, I believe I said that and that was in response to the physiologic action of soft tissues techniques like ART and Graston. When using these techniques, a local inflammation is created because the practitioner is breaking down fibrotic adhesions (scar tissue) which creates a low grade inflammation. This inflammation promotes increased blood flow which helps in the healing process.

Now if you just walked a mile and your feet are inflammed then my suggestion is rest, ice, compression, elevation. Your feet are inflammed because the tissues have lost their flexibility and they are reacting to the stresses put on them. Hope that clarifies things for you...

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Inflammation View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/25/06 at 16:18

I read that creating inflammation in the foot (by deep message, for example) puts foot in state to begin healing. Correct? So, should we be doing all we can to eliminate inflammation or not?

Thanks. Janice

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Re: PF pain is mostly when standing View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/24/06 at 22:09

Thanks for your info. I will try to find the gel insert. Is it a heal insert or full size insert? I got custom orthotics some time ago but they didn't seem to work. After going to a podiatrist he told me they were old school technology. They were made of hard material but not a very high arch. So then I went to the Good Feet store about 6 mos ago. I seemed to improve alot, just pain standing. BUT in the last few days I have had a major set back. I wore regular street shoes with smaller black inserts from Good Feet store last week. Now I can barely walk. Am getting very frustrated. I have had this for 20 months now. I started stretching again. Could I have reinjured them by stretching with a step and deep messaging with my hands?

Thanks. Janice

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Re: PF pain is mostly when standing View Thread
Posted by Monte on 4/21/06 at 15:58

Janice
Most of us feel the same pain when standing still. I think that is because there is constant strain or stretch on the fascia. When walking, one foot is off the floor for a brief second.

I hate and fear standing in lines. I choose the shortest line at lunch, bank and shop on-line and drive to work to avoid public transportation.

DavidW has found that his standing time has increased with massage therapy.

I am trying cryo to see if that helps me with my standing time.

Hope this helps
Monte

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PF pain is mostly when standing View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/21/06 at 14:25

My PF pain is much worse when standing for a few minutes. I can walk with no problem for a block or two but standing is the worst. What is happening when I am standing? Is there something I can do to alliviate this pain say when waiting in lines? I feel my PF is much better but this standing pain is getting really old and it just will not go away. I don't have much morning pain anymore. I have Good Feet Store inserts which I wear all the time.

Thanks. Janice

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Re: exercising with heel pain View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/21/06 at 10:52

I was using the eliptical before getting PF and also my son, 30, also got heal pain using this machine but he quit immediately and he has no more pain. He knew about PF from my experience, lucky him. Also, a friend of mine used this machine and got PF....don't think I will ever use again.

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Alternatives to Good Feet Store View Thread
Posted by Janice F on 4/20/06 at 23:10

I bought the high priced inserts at the Good Feet Store. Can you tell me where I can find the newer technology that you spoke about above.

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serious problem View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 3/07/06 at 05:29

I got a Footsmart catalog in the mail last week. It is pretty bad when you are drooling over the selection of foot products like they are jewelry and nice clothing. hahahahahaha
I wanted everything in there. The shoes, socks, night splints, foot dreams, toe clippers. I didn't buy a thing. In fact going to pass the beloved catalog on to someone with a bad flair of PF.I warned you it was a serious problem. haha

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Re: THE PF Blessing View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 3/07/06 at 05:16

PF kept me awake every single night for three yrs.
I also suffer from another chronic pain disorder. So PF was like adding insult to injury. I tried many things like the others here. Some gave me some relief and others didn't. Well I don't sleep much still due to other things but I don't spend every hour in pain like before. I couldn't say when the pain eased up I was doing anything I could say that was helping. It sure does get you down when you feel like you have a bad toothache in your foot.
But I use laughter to cope or I would be totally nuts by now. I live in an Independent Living Apts for seniors and disabled persons. I am not a senior. There is alot of suffering in residents here as they age. Although some make me seem like I am 90.
as they pass me by going to do their actvities.So we have to laugh off our pain and discomfort to survive. One man just turned 102 and he goes down the street to sell his cassettes from an earlier musical carrer. I am sure at that age he must have some aches and pains. But one would never know by looking at him. Because he still has interests.
And a reason to get up every day. And I am sure it helps he still gets alot of attention.
So you do have to find things that keep your pain from being your whole world. And believe me I have been there and done that. And it gets you nowhere.
I always sing that song the sun will come out tomorrow to a friend when things look glum to her. It takes her mind off her trouble because
she hates the song and it makes her laugh about it.
So the sun will come out tomorow. Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow. come what may.
Singing is another thing that helps me. Might not do anything for my neighbors. Find what works for you.

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Re: Anyone live in Houston, TX ? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 3/07/06 at 04:52

Yes I live in Houston. My ordeal with PF has been going on four yrs now. Christmas day was one of severe pain mostly from a Neuroma. Then I injured my foot just stepping out of the way of my cat. A few
wks earlier the poor cat got his tail stepped on. Causing us both pain. So in Jan. I was walking into the bathroom when the cat darted by. I stepped to my right and pain shot through my foot big time. I didn't twist my foot or anything. It started swelling on the top of the foot. Needless to say I was off it for a month praying all the time I didn't
do some bad damage to anything. It sure did flair up every condition I had. The neuroma, bones spurs, athritis and neuropathy in the big toe and PF. The podiatrist I use said although it was swelling on the top he thought it was associated with the PF.
And if it was and I didn't have alot of improvement over the next wk I would need an MRI to see if I tore anything or ruptured the fascia. After a wk I was doing some better or in denial. The time off my foot really did help my foot with everything that was so flaired. It is two months since it happened and my heel is killing me off and on the last few days.One thing I can tell you that living in Houston with constant weather changes sure makes the pain in my feet worse. I had just been to the foot dr before the holidays because I had such severe pain on top of my foot and big toe. That is when I found out about the arthritis and neuropathy. Just when you think your feet can't hurt anymore you find out they can. Just different kinds of pain.
I can't say one condition hurts worse than the other. But when more than one thing is hurting in your foot and even worse everything flaired up you think you will loose your mind with pain.

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Re: Dorothy View Thread
Posted by Suzanne D. on 1/22/06 at 15:24

Hi, Dorothy! Like you, I consider "Hoosiers" one of the all-time great movies. In the opening scenes, as the car travels down a country road and past a little school, they are filming just a few miles from where my husband grew up in Indiana. He is a big fan of that movie, too. I also like "Remember the Titans".

I hope "Glory Road" is the caliber of those movies. I am looking forward to seeing it. As for what I've heard people say about it, the "good ol' boys" :) down at the corner store say they don't want to see it because they think it will "make us look bad". I think perhaps UK basketball is so dear to them that they don't want to risk being disappointed in any way by things in the past. They are quite serious about their allegiance and have been known to grieve for many days after a UK loss - especially in the tournament.

My daughter heard an interview on the radio with a grandson of Adolph Rupp who said neither he nor his family planned to see the movie. I guess they don't want to risk seeing something that might tarnish his image. The grandson went on to say, so I understand, that he had letters from black athletes written to his grandfather years ago thanking him for the help he gave them in getting scholarships to other colleges, etc.

Speaking of movies, did you see the movie "Elizabethtown"? Of course I was interested as I live near Elizabethtown. I was disappointed in it and thought it made "us" look rather dopey. You know, kind of like the old "Dukes of Hazzard" show (haven't seen the new movie) made the law enforcement appear. As the characters drove down mostly deserted streets, people stood out on porches and in yards and waved and looked rather "hokey". I did have to admit that during the "Elizabethtown" movies funeral scene, the foods on the table for the dinner afterwards could have come straight from our church dinners: hashbrown casserole, etc. :)

I did not see that piece about the families in eastern Kentucky. I wish I had seen it so we could discuss it.

Are you familiar with the Janice Holt Giles books of many years ago? "Forty Acres and No Mule" is one. (I hate that I can't remember how Carole or someone told us how to italicize or underline!) Ms. Giles is from my home county.

As always, it was nice talking to you about Kentucky!

Suzanne :)

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Janice C - how are you doing? View Thread
Posted by Tim M on 11/23/05 at 10:46

Janice C:

Scott was having some problems with a guy who was advocating Z-Coils via blatant advertising here on the message boards. I don't see a sign of my response to you back in March, so maybe it was eliminated when he had to deal with this guy.

I wanted to find out how you were doing with your Z-Coils and let you know about another insole I have discovered that, maybe, will work for you in your Z-Coils. It is the Dr. Scholl's Memory Fit insole and it tends to keep its shape, and not shape itself to your foot as readily, as the 20z Miracles.

Here's a URL: http://www.drscholls.com/product.aspx?prodid=79

Every drug store has them.

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Re: Birkenstocks View Thread
Posted by susan o on 10/25/05 at 09:17

Janice, do the Naots seem to have as much arch support, then, as the Birks?

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Re: Birkenstocks View Thread
Posted by janice l on 10/24/05 at 17:27

Another shoe you might look into is Naot. This shoe is made in Israel and has a similar foot bed as the Birkenstocks, but I have found them a great deal more comfortable. I have had pf in my right foot for four years and the Naots have been one of the few shoe brands that I have been consistently able to wear. I am currently trying out a pair of Earth shoes, they have a negative heel to give a constant stretch to the back of your leg, but honestly, I think I am going to return them and get another pair of Naots! I have worn this line for over fifteen years and every time I slip my foot into them, it feels like home! I could never get past the break in period with birkenstocks so I probably am not the best judge of them. Good luck!!

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Re: best activity/exercise View Thread
Posted by DavidW on 10/10/05 at 18:01

Janice B, I have had great success rowing! And it causes almost no pain in my feet and is a great aerobic excersise. Maybe you can buy a cheap rower or find on used one on ebay. I would also recommend some simple and light weight training. A couple of dumbells, a cheap book and a small chair or bench are all you need. You won't sweat too much, but you will just simply feel better. Another option might be excercise tapes that you can watch at home. Many of them do tons of floor work so you don't have to stand that much. There are several new Pilates tapes that do alot of strength training using a long rubber band, and tons of it is while either sitting or kneeling. Yoga is also great because much of it is done without standing.

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Re: best activity/exercise View Thread
Posted by Shari R on 10/10/05 at 17:46

Everyone is different, but I'm completely convinced that the eliptical trainer was the main culprit of my PF. I still want to get back on it, but the last time I did the whole process of PF started over and I freaked out and had surgury. That was a big mistake. Janice, read back as far as possible on this site for lots of different opinions. Best of luck. How about the stationary bike. I just started that again, and it doesn't seem to bad.

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best activity/exercise View Thread
Posted by Janice B on 10/10/05 at 16:01

I am one of those obese females with PF. I walk on my treadmill to lose weight but don't want to aggrevate the PF. Since swimming is not always possible, what would be the next best exercise for weight loss that would not aggrevate the PF? How about the elliptical trainer? Thanks.

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Re: anyone succesed with ESWT? tell me, please View Thread
Posted by Janice N. on 10/08/05 at 14:55

I had two rounds of ESWT treatment with Dr. Peter Wishnie in Hillsborough, NJ. The first was maybe 70 to 75 % successful at the end of the year. I had a follow-up treatment last November. I have had outstanding relief after the 2nd treatment (90 to 95% total improvement). I had some relief within a few weeks of treatment with the most improvement after 3 to 6 months. I have been a "religious" stretcher, doing stretches several times daily. I have been extremely pleased with the results, and after the novacaine injection, which was no picnic, the treatment was painless.

Good luck with your treatment.

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Susan View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 8/03/05 at 20:07

Susan:

You wrote a few days ago:

"And "dorothy" assumes that people have forgotten how she furiously trashed Mike W. herself, I guess."

This never happened. I cannot let your false statement stand unchallenged because that never happened. I will not engage in any further argument with you because you are not forthright, but you cannot state a falsehood like this about someone else and just let it sit there. It is a false statement, a fabrication.

It is not possible for me to bring up all of the posts that involve my comments pertaining to Foot Trainers and Mike W over the years that I have been here, but if it were possible, they would be overwhelmingly favorable. I hope I've sent business his way because his product helped me and I've certainly tried to recommend his product to fellow sufferers.

The incident you are referring to - when Janice spoke very negatively about the Foot Trainers even though she had no personal knowledge or experience with them and could very well have been discouraging people from trying them - resulted in Janice being offered Foot Trainers gratis by Mike W. She had "bad mouthed" them and then was going to get free products. Didn't seem right to me. There were many people who hadn't "badmouthed" the product - again, without her having any personal experience with them - who might have been able to use a free Foot Trainer. Nope, didn't seem right to me. Susan, it still doesn't seem right to me. My only error was in stating my opinion on the subject. I should have stayed out of it. Not because you are in any way correct. You are not in any way correct - but only because it was not really my business.
I recall the incident that you are referring to, but it did not in any way constitute what you are claiming. I took objection to something, just as you so often take object to me, but I did not do what you falsely state. I may be hypersensitive to what I feel is injustice and unfairness and that incident derived from those feelings, from someone being offered a fine reward for being negative and unfair. I have said, and will say again now, that I should have stayed out of that conversation between Janice and Mike W., although I was involved in the discussion otherwise. I often "spoke up" for the Foot Trainers and recommended them to people, more than anybody else has done, I think.

You have an unpleasant "beef" with me, Susan, and I am tired of it. You are not going to change and I can't seem to ignore you - so I will just stay away, but I had to clear up this point first because you told a falsehood about me, and I do not like that. You are fortunate in that the "be nice" rule does not seem to apply to things said to and about Dorothy; consequently, your statement stands.

Your characterization of what happened is false. You should apologize, but I'm sure you won't. You seem very busy generating many short posts about Achilles problems and ESWT lately and soon the "last 30 posts" from you will look very focused on that one pertinent issue and won't show any of your other posts. Your poster history will look like the model poster. Maybe you are in Public Relations.
This may be galling to you, but as one who actually does have a lot of Achilles problems, I have been reading your posts and Dr. Z's answers and learning from them. I doubt that you intended for me to benefit from your exchange with him.
Good luck to you, Susan. I do hope you feel better in all ways, whether it's the Achilles or your Dorothy problem.

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Re: rest after cortisone???? View Thread
Posted by janice on 6/21/05 at 12:57

Michelle, while I can understand your desire to participate in such a worthwhile cause, I would seriously caution you about trying to push your foot into something it is obviously not ready for. Yes, a cortisone shot will probably allow you to get through any pain associated with your walk. After my two shots I felt like super woman for about a month each time. However, because of the shot masking your symptoms, I am sure that you will most likely over due with your execising and will do much more harm to a very vulnerable foot. Take it from someone who has been down this road for four years, and I am sure there are many people out there in the same situation as myself, plantar fasciitis is nothing to scoff at. Working through the pain will only get you in a worse off place down the road and lengthen your over-all recovery time. Don't mean to scare you, just trying to help you avoid the pain and aggravation that I have learned the hard way! Good luck!

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Re: One Last Question about Nightsplint View Thread
Posted by janice on 6/13/05 at 16:33

In response to your previous question to me about whether I still do all of the other things for treatment - yes. I still ice, take advil or celebrex, STRETCH RELIGIOUSLY, and wear my orthotics. I started wearing the night splint all night right away and it helped me almost immediately. The pain in the morning from those first few steps was almost entirely alleviated by keeping the foot stretched all night in the splint. It felt weird at first and I think I unconsciously removed it a few times but after a month or so I could sleep through the night with it on no problem. I have been trying to wean myself off of it because it is cumbersome and to be honest, not real sexy in bed! However, if my foot acts up again I go back to it and see a difference overnight! If you are feeling something up in the other foot, by all means address it early. Maybe try alternating using the splint on each foot every other night and see what that does. I am pretty certain you at least can't do any harm and maybe this is all you need to head off pf in the foot that is borderline right now. I wish I had not waited three years to invest in one! Good luck, there is light at the end of the tunnel, however when the pf is flared up that light seems like the oncoming train!!!

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Re: Plantar fasciatis and night splints View Thread
Posted by Christine on 6/10/05 at 18:53

Janice -- Thanks for taking the time to chime in! That's the night splint I was gravitating towards (blue, padded, FootSmart Passive Night Splint -- right?) so it's good to hear a recommendation for it. Since using it, have you had to continue with other methods of treatment? For example, orthodics, meds, stretching, or anything else? One thing I especially hate is not being able to wear any shoes the orthodics won't fit in (ie. sandals or dress shoes) without having pain. Just wondering if there's light at the end of the tunnel!?!?!
Christine

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Re: Plantar fasciatis and night splints View Thread
Posted by janice on 6/10/05 at 17:11

Just wanted to add from my experience. I have been using a night splint for about six months and it has really helped my pf. I wish I would have used it from the beginning, but as we all know about the high cost of trying this and that gadget in pursuit of pain relief, I did not gravitate towards this one until I had suffered for three years and thought "what the heck, I have tried about everything else!" I purchased mine at footsmart.com. It is L shaped under the foot and does a nice job of keeping the foot flexed through the night. It took some getting used to, but it was not uncomfortable, just felt strange. Good luck, hope you have as much success as I did.

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Re: cortazone shots View Thread
Posted by janice on 6/08/05 at 15:52

I have had two cortisone shots, one on the medial side of my foot to relieve the pain of the plantar fascia and one in the back of my heel ( in the fatty part) to break up some adhesions on my achilles tendon. Neither injection was painful and the first one gave me relief from the pf with no complications. The relief was temporary, but sometimes with intense pain, you are willing to take anything! The second shot was successful in breaking the adhesions and I thought I had undergone a miracle, but given what I know now about the long term effects of cortisone, I would not have done that shot. The cortisone has permanently damaged the tissue around my achilles tendon and I am left with a three inch long strip of skin on the back of my ankle that is purple and painful to the touch. I would recommend caution to your wife and from what I have read on other postings, it seems significant as to what kind of cortisone one receives. I was ignorant to that a year ago and I don't honestly know what kind of mixture I received. The first shot was from a podiatrist and the second shot was given by an orthopedic doctor. Both told me that a maximum of three shots in any given area of the body is all that either one would consider giving. Good luck!

Result number: 85

Message Number 176341

eswt treatment for achilles tendonitis? View Thread
Posted by janice on 6/08/05 at 15:39

I have suffered from pf for four years and while I think it has finally started to settle down over the last 3-4 months, I now seem to be gravitating to an equally painful case of achilles tendonitis. I have gone to my third podiatrist (with an orthopedist thrown in for good measure!) and his philosophy is that we humans were actually designed to walk around barefoot, which of course is not practical in modern society, so to simulate that as much as possible I have been wearing completely flat shoes - crocs and merrills - for the last four months. I must admit that my pf feels much better, but the tendonitis is much worse. I do stretch my foot and ankle religiously morning and night! Having tried literally "everything" thus far - physical therapy, walking boot, night splint, two cortisone shots, countless over the counter inserts, custom orthotics, accupunture, numerous shoe brands, viox - I am intrigued by eswt. If I were to have the procedure done, would I gain the most benefit by targeting only the achilles tendon, or should that be combined with possible treament on the plantar fascia as well? Can both sights even be treated simultaneously? Please let me know, I am really quite excited over the possility of something actually working for me and that I might finally be able to return to an active lifestyle after being side lined for so long! Thanks

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footwear View Thread
Posted by janicej on 6/02/05 at 09:52

what type of footwear is recomended

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Re: I feel bad View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 4/25/05 at 22:51

Dear Larry, I'm so sorry that the people who do not have heel pain do not understand. I hate to say I was clueless myself, I was with both my sister-in-laws when they were struggling with PF originally, and I could not understand either, because I had no problems myself. Boy do I understand now! I can't recommend highly enough that you read Scott's heel pain book also. Lately my PF has gotten better & better, because of a combination of things which I have posted about so I won't repeat all of it, but 1 more thing- I have stopped lifting/carrying anything heavier than a gallon of water at a time. If I have to make 50 trips to & from the car to bring in groceries, I do that. I also limit my time to 30 min on a concrete floor such as the grocery store. Not much fun, but I have given up trying to do what I did before, I just cannot & expect to get better. Good for you losing weight. I have had the best luck with Atkins myself, I also developed diabetes last Nov and my nurse/practicioner advised me to get off the low carb because I also had high cholesterol. So I am struggling with my weight again, and that does not help the inflammed PF. So stay with it, just watch your cholesterol & try to get plenty of veggies to avoid constipation. It is not fun to develop hemmorhoids from straining at the stool, then you can't sit OR stand! (I'm a nurse). Janice C.

Result number: 88

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Re: Richard Cped please Zcoils? a scam? View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 3/20/05 at 15:17

Tim M , thank you for responding, & putting my name so I would get the thread. Actually, I do the other thing, not over pronate, but suponate (sp?). And switching the springs did help. I live 2 hrs away from the store,they spent almost 2 hrs with me trying to get me adjusted. I got the sandals, have Mortons neuromas in both forefeet, one lady thought I needed the wide, and usually I buy a wide 8 1/2 because of the neuromas, but my foot is just medium. I had the medium width, and across my ankle it was tight as the velcro could go. Switching the springs did help a lot,plus using the med spring, but still it feels like I go down too much when I stand. It feels like a negative heel almost. They felt great when I first put them on, but as the day wore on, the burning in the heel was getting worse until I was gritting my teeth. I plan to go back week from tomorrow to try & see if I can either get a stronger spring so I don't rock back, or try the hiking shoe. I wonder if all the footbeds are the same. The rigid plastic feels good, but I may have to switch the pad like you did because the one with the shoe looks like it is going to compress & mold to my footprint. That also gives me problems in other shoes. I will feel wonderful in the store, in a couple of days I have ditches where my pressure points are, and it is agonizing. thanks so much for your help, await your reply. Janice C

Result number: 89

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Re: Richard Cped please Zcoils? a scam? View Thread
Posted by Tim M. on 3/20/05 at 09:05

Janice C:
You say it feels like it is stretching your PF? Does your foot overpronate? If so, what I learned to do was swap the springs on shoe: the right one over to the left shoe and the left over to the right. This is one of the over 30 ways they have of adjusting the shoe. I would get back to the store, explain your problem and have them help you adjust your Z-Coils.
I also put an over the counter insole, the ProFoot 3oz Miracle, into the shoe to wear for a while and that seemed to help with getting used to the shoes. They definitely take some getting used to because they are like no other shoes.

Good luck!

Result number: 90

Message Number 171611

Re: Richard Cped please Zcoils? a scam? View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 3/19/05 at 22:24

Nollie C I hope you get this, please put my name Janice C so I will get your reply. I just bought some Zcoils, and am having some difficulty. The heel feels a little spongy, though it is a medium spring and I weigh 176. It feels like it is stretching my pf, and I would say my foot is probably level, toe & heel when standing. I could not wear Birks for this reason, my pf was really inflammed after wearing the Birks, just too flat. I do fine with a 3/4" heel. Do you think it sounds like I need a heavier duty spring? thanks, Janice C

Result number: 91

Message Number 171338

Aloha, two View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 3/16/05 at 16:28


Reactions/responses to posts made in recent days in my absence:

Is “John H” the same as “john h”?? If so, John H was saying that I am a vampire who needs to be slain? That I am Joan Crawford incarnate – meaning a cruel, abusive parent? That I am “the original bad seed”, a fictional child who was an amoral, sociopathic, evil, murderer? Do I understand you correctly? Good grief.

There may be some truth in what Elyse B and Susan say about my posts. I am thinking about what they have said, however nasty they seemed on first glance. It seems to me that they distorted the picture, but I also think there may be a lot of truth in what they say.

Julie’s comments were wise and kind, an attitude that my posts probably don’t deserve. I appreciate her characterizing some of my posts as “intemperate”; that seems more fair and generous than my posts warrant and is a tribute to her generous spirit.

The hatred and anger for me in some posts, such as those of Elyse B and Susan, always astonish me. Elyse B and Susan say I am a bully and they say I have hijacked this board. Although their posts seem to distort the depiction of the context and circumstances that generated my posts, their reactions to my posts are understandable. One of them went to some effort to retrieve old posts of mine and re-post them. Those posts are, at best, intemperate, to use Julie’s diplomatic word. However, Elyse B/Susan were very selective in their re-posting. There was no context and no background provided. Perhaps if they had provided context and background, their distortion would not have been so easy to present. They wanted to support a hateful point of view and they did so effectively. On the other hand, there may be something worthwhile in what Elyse B and Susan say and what they provoke and so I will keep an open mind for that.

Julie’s post said that I wrote things that were hurtful to her in the past and I regret that very much and would not knowingly do so again. The realization of that made me sad and embarrassed and wishing that I could change history. I know that I wrote in ways that must surely have been hurtful and angering to Marie who also has such a delightful,great spirit, and I also greatly regret that and would not knowingly do that again either. It is no excuse, but it was largely because I was piqued at Dr. Ed at that time; there was a larger context to all of that ‘diatribe’ of mine. There was a time when anger and criticisms were flying right and left and opinions and emotions were at a heated pitch all around. Many things were said to many people by many people at that time, including me, but not only me, that were heated. Either Elyse B and Susan are unaware of that context and history or they have chosen to ignore it. No matter; it is not sufficient excuse for me to have hurt people I respect and admire and appreciate. I do wish I could take back anything I posted that was hurtful to Marie or Julie. I can’t and the words are there and Elyse B and Susan have re-posted them. It is not their error; it is mine.

Both Julie and Marie are bigger people than I, evidenced by the mere fact that they have “conversed” with me since those past hurts. I respect and enjoy both of their personalities and styles and the content of their posts so I am always grateful that they write here. If anyone would be justified in lambasting me, it would be Marie or Julie, but they have not done so; Elyse B and Susan have. I recall that many things were said by many people at that time and people were hurt who would never say anything unkind to another person here – Suzanne, for example, but not by me. I hope I have never said anything hurtful to her and I know she has never said anything hurtful to anyone here. Elyse B and Susan placed no context nor any background around their selective presentation of Dorothy’s posts; their anger is single-minded and focused.

As to other points in the recent angry and distorting posts of Elyse B and Susan: I do not owe you any “evidence” about my personal or professional life whatsoever. I not only “claim” to be published; I am published. Since I am not trying to sell you anything, nor do I need to prove anything to you, there is no need to tell you anything about myself. I guard my privacy like a pitbull for a variety of reasons, among them, matters of safety. Even if I did not have such concerns, your mean-spirited posts are off-putting. For reasons of safety and security, a relative/employee of mine handles these board communications for me, as well as matters such as any ordering/purchasing and that sort of thing so that I can maintain an extreme level of privacy. She and her family live at a distance from me but we are very close. My family and friends all take very good care of me and I of them in this regard, for our own safety. I would like to e-mail with Julie, Marie, john h or Suzanne – as they have kindly offered in the past – but I just cannot and I am not going to explain beyond this. It is really not your business. It is a very difficult subject and while I wish I could explain to those good people, I feel no need to explain anything to Elyse B or Susan or those who share their feelings.

One small point: do you actually believe that published writers do not make errors in spelling or syntax and grammar?

It does not strike me as very strange that I would prefer the “company” here of those who do not seem hostile to me to those who do. What Elyse B and Susan present as criticism of me for that does not seem to me to be an unusual trait.

I don’t recall correcting anyone’s spelling except for Dr. Z’s once and that was for purposes of clarification of a point with some humor. He has a sense of humor. I am not the world’s worst speller but also not a perfect speller. If I have “claimed” to be a perfect speller or perfect grammarian, perhaps you can revisit your research of my historic posts and if you locate such a claim, I would like to see it – along with the proof of your “j’accuse” of my having hijacked the board. Still waiting for your “evidence” on that charge, other than your statement of your opinion… If I were in the business of correcting spelling, even a less-than-perfect speller such as I am would find plenty of work to do in posts here. I have thought about correcting only some spelling errors that may lead to confusion, but opted to just let it pass. Some spelling errors (“scare tissue” rather than scar tissue, for example) have developed a kind of eccentric charm for me; “scare” tissue actually rings truer than ‘scar’ tissue, if you know what I mean. (But, of course, you never do.)

You are correct that I do have difficulty with affect and effect. Does your research of my historic posts find that I said otherwise? Again, please share any “claims” that I have made for perfection. There would be none because I have no such thoughts. Haughty, maybe; stupid, not.

You are correct that I have objected to all-caps. I am not the only one who has done so, but I do admit to having posted several times about this. It is standard procedure for internet writing. I have tried to be courteous about it. Why that gets you or anyone else so riled up is beyond me. Feel free to post in all-caps or in Sanskrit – preferably Sanskrit when you are posting about me. I had thought it might be a kindness to tell someone who might not otherwise know that posting messages in all-caps carries certain meanings that they might not be aware of. I did not know about the internet and all-caps for quite a while and was glad to learn that it should only be used for certain purposes. I thought that maybe others did not know about that, just as I had not known. It’s kind of like telling someone that they have spinach in their teeth or they have exited the restaurant restroom with toilet paper trailing behind them. You apparently think they should not be told. I think it is a kindness to tell them. In those circumstances, you can tell them discreetly; on this board, a post is the only way to communicate.

As to Janice’s post about Foot Trainers: yes, you are correct. I was very annoyed about that. Janice posted negative statements about Foot Trainers, advising people against them when she had never tried them and knew nothing about them. I thought her uninformed comments might put people off a potentially helpful product. When the Foot Trainer company owner offered her free Foot Trainers in response to her negative comments, yes, it struck me as unfair. I didn’t think that making negative, misleading statements about a (helpful) product that one knows nothing about should be rewarded with that product being given free. I did not, as you said, post something falst about Janice and then comment on it. Even so, I take your point about the Janice/Foot Trainers incident and admit that I should not have said anything; it was not my business and I was out of line. It should have been between the Foot Trainer company owner and Janice and had nothing to do with me. If I recall correctly (forgive me; I haven’t memorized all of your judgments, important as they are), you said that my reaction to Janice’s post “drove her away”. If that is what you said, that is untrue. She continued to post for quite some time – perhaps still posts; I’m not sure; there is a Janice who posts now but doesn’t seem to be the same one– so she must have been able to cope with one poster’s (mine) reaction to her post. And I will reiterate: I am just one poster. Why do you ascribe much more power and authority to me than I, or anyone else here besides the owner, has? You have the same power and authority here as I or anyone else does.

You make absurd statements about my posts of opinion holding some special position here, an idea that is just completely ridiculous. If you had any knowledge of the history here, you would know that. My posts of opinion are just that: opinion. No more or less worthy than yours – but note: no less worthy either. This is a place of equal posts and you are free to like or dislike any post – and the poster you think they reflect – here. You seem most upset at the fact that I post, that you don’t like my posts, that you think others should rise up and reject my posts, that everyone should voice their agreement with you and their hatred of me, that my posts and I should be rejected . You seem most upset that all others don’t reflect your feelings of hatred for me and my posts. I think that plenty of people here do dislike me/my posts so you are not alone. Why you consider strong written opinions to be bullying is beyond me. If you feel strongly about something or someone, speak up – as you have done. If I choose to respond to you, I will speak up, in turn. That is not bullying, dear; that is heated exchange. If you consider disagreement with you or confrontation of you to be bullying, then I would suggest you are very pampered.

I have written an overlong response to your angry posts about me. Your obvious hatred for me probably doesn’t warrant any response, but I am giving your comments consideration to see if I can learn something from them; I think I can. Your style is quite different from the style of Julie and Marie and Suzanne and some others who are not mean, even when they would be justified in reacting to me with bitterness or anger; I certainly have learned from them – and even from Dr. Ed in some ways – as I have observed their posting (and personality) styles here since the Days of Rage and Outrage of a year ago or so. I think each of us has modified our styles to varying degrees, but I admit I have a ways to go yet towards being a more congenial fellow-poster, in some circumstances with some posters. I don’t presume to “claim” anyone here as a friend because while I can be haughty, I am not arrogant and I don’t presume anything and certainly wouldn’t presume friendship FROM anyone – but I will say that I feel much affection FOR people here; I do admire and respect and enjoy a number of people here, even some who probably do not “like” me. I understand the wish to be liked and “wanted” in a group; I think most people want that, here and elsewhere. But I do think you may be confusing this place with high school or junior high where popularity contests and the “alliances” that you refer to are the norm. I would never presume any reciprocity from the people here who have come to mean a great deal to me, a process that I would never have thought would occur, to feel genuine affection for people I “know” only through a message board! I have learned that reciprocity isn’t necessarily necessary for affection and it’s kind of liberating knowledge. I care about people here and among them are people who probably don’t like me. That’s ok.

Having made this response of sorts, I probably won't address you again. No one makes you read my posts or anyone else’s posts, so you will probably feel better if you do not read my posts; they obviously distress you. If you see “Dorothy”, move on down the screen; don’t upset yourselves. Really: DON’T UPSET YOURSELVES!!! You “claim” to have PF and continue to run, so running should be a good way to vent your hatred for me or anyone else, and probably a healthier way. However, if you feel that posting – and re-posting – helps you more, then feel free and please feel free to use all-caps, distortions, misspellings, whatever you want. Despite your insistent charge that I have hijacked this board, that is absurd and is the one statement of yours that I reject completely. What you seem to be most upset about is that Julie or Marie or whoever else you are addressing have not expressed hatred for me as you have done and why they have not expressed great and warm support for your hatred of me. I think they have been clear that they do not like or dislike you or me or almost anyone else any more or less than anyone else – it’s a pretty absurd idea, really. I am sorry, Elyse B and Susan, that they have not rallied to your cause in the way you want. It is not because I get some kind of special treatment – as you angrily want to protest. I do not credit their attitude to any positive attribute of mine at all, but I do credit it entirely to their grace, maturity, wisdom, courtesy and kindness, and good hearts. You are correct that I am not deserving of their courtesy and kindness,; that is where grace and graciousness makes the difference. I don’t presume that they have forgiven me, but they have certainly been gracious. Even at my advancing years in life, I still learn – and still try and want to learn – from those whom I admire and respect and enjoy (and love, if such can be said of people one “knows” through a message board).

What seems to have provoked your hatred and anger for me most, or most recently, is my post about Vince (the poll). I will say once again that I was being sarcastic and satiric and facetious and tongue-in-cheek. I was using the terminology of a television program that I have never seen but have heard enough about to know that its catch-phrase is “voted off the island…” I take your point about this and herewith apologize for using that terminology on this message board where an open-hearted inclusiveness usually rules. Vince does not seem to have been deterred by my post – and as I think about it, in contrast, I might have been hurt had that been said to/of me (the poll) so maybe the “golden rule” should have applied – but he may be appreciative of your speaking up for him. Maybe sometime you will consider speaking up for the wife he “claims” to have.

Finally, back to John H who I truly hope is different from john h: your linking me to “bad seed” to “Joan Crawford reincarnate” to some obscure reference to vampire slaying is puzzling. If this was meant to be humorous, the humor escapes me. If it was veiled nastiness (or even not so veiled), good job. I don’t think I’ve ever – ever – said one thing to john h that would warrant equating me to: evil, murderous, cruel, predatory figures. I don’t even understand your inserting these comments at all, except for taking the opportunity provided by Elyse B and Susan. If John H and john h are not the same person, then the use of the same name is confusing.

I think I covered all of the points you made. If not, you will no doubt point out my errors of omission or commision, real or contrived. I will, as a direct result of your angry postings about me, strive to be a better human being.

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Message Number 171199

Re: PF Surgery - Big Mistake View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 3/14/05 at 19:55

My heart goes out to you. I was also considering the amputation, just to get on with my life. People are so shocked when you say something like that, but other than learning to walk on your hands, sometimes seems the only solution. I agree, the heel pain book is a wonderful start. The same thing does not help everyone. All different problems. No foot pain in either side of my family, but my brother & sister also deal with it. We are the first generation of feet problems, but we are also all overweight. They are younger than me, and aren't to the point I am. I was helped SOMEWHAT by the EPF release, but and it is a big BUT- I have to be careful, as it seems to have put more tension on the outside band of the PF. You just have to keep reading, keep trying different things, get to the point where you let your feet tell you what & how much you can do on them. Get creative getting your daily activities done- I sit to iron, sit as much as possible to cook, I cannot walk too long on concrete, even with the solutions that work best for me. I can lift hardly anything. About 1 gallon of water is my max, or I suffer the next day. I cannot gain any weight, and am constantly struggling to lose, even if it is a little at a time. I have about 30# to go. I wear either Mephisto sandals with the cork bed soles, or very low heels hard soles, with HTP heel seats. Stretching did seem to make my feet worse. Oddly enough, walking up rocky or uneven hills & resting in between has helped. I have trouble standing in line @ the grocery store, so I go when the store isn't busy. Thank the Lord Jesus, I can sleep at night, rarely have they hurt through the night. I am so sorry to read your post, I have been there. You are in my prayers.

Result number: 93

Message Number 170544

Re: I need your help finding a good shoe View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 3/05/05 at 19:48

Cathie w , I have had wonderful luck with Mephisto sandals, the ones with the cork soles, bad luck with Birks, too flat- stretched out my already inflammed plantar fascia. Also had good luck with Justin Ropers, the lace-up, don't get the one labeled "basics", the sole is thin, they are cheaper than the regular line of Justins. My sister in law swears by SAS shoes, she has a bad case of PF. If you check out Zappos.com they have free shipping, totally refund your s & h and cost of shoe. I have about 6 pair of Mephs, but have returned about 6 pair to get a different size each time. I tried the regular soles in the Meph, but too soft, the cork bed is firm, but well-padded, looks like a Birk, but slightly higher heel. Feel like an Arizona Birk- very comf. Good luck.

Result number: 94

Message Number 170442

Re: To Elyse View Thread
Posted by Elyse B on 3/04/05 at 13:46

from Susan below under Explanation. I could not hav explained it better myself. Julie I would appreciate your responding to this. Thanks.


To anyone questioning what Elyse means by Dorothy hijacking the board, I think I can explain because I have had the same impression myself.

To start with, Dorothy demeans people who disagree with her by calling them a variety of ugly names. She has used words like anti-intellectual and anti-intelligent in some of her insults. She has called me anti-intellectual I believe. Now the two things I have been called more than anything else in my life are intellectual and intelligent. So I know that this is mere name-calling on her part and as such, inappropriate. She also demeans people who disagree with her by calling them creeps, weird, stubborn, unwilling to learn and grow and change (because they are not interested in her advice), and this is an incomplete list. Many of her ugliest posts have been deleted.

She mocks people for misspelled words while misspelling plenty of words herself. I recall she mocked Elyse for misusing a word, while misusing them herself. (For example using "affect" where "effect" would have been correct.) She writes on and on and on ad nauseum against writing in all-caps, calling it shouting, while repeatedly typing words in all-caps herself - and not just as an example in her all-caps tirade. She has even mocked someone for using quotes where they would not normally be used, conveniently ignoring that they are being used as a substitute for bolding or italics. The things she doesn't do correctly don't bother me, but her demands that others do those things her way and they way in which she posts these demands seem like bullying to me.

She posted a false statement about something Janice said, then proceeded to attack Janice for it (the foot-trainers post). To me this was probably the most offensive and inappropriate thing of all from her. I definitely considered this to be bullying.

She demands in a haughty tone that people prove any of their assertions, while claiming to be a published author, but showing no evidence of it. Why is that?

Dorothy chooses to behave nicely to people who never contradict her, who are willing thank her profusely, who post that they like her, who post that they want her to stay and also to people who present themselves as strong, such as you and John H.

No bully behaves in a bullying manner at all times, but that doesn't mean the person is not a bully, at least not in my book.

In short, her bullying derisiveness and hostility toward people who display opinions of their own that may not be hers, and who may seem weak to her or without alliances on the board is what drives people off, which I think is what Elyse meant when she said Dorothy has hi-jacked the board.

Result number: 95

Message Number 170439

Explanation View Thread
Posted by Susan on 3/04/05 at 13:26

To anyone questioning what Elyse means by Dorothy hijacking the board, I think I can explain because I have had the same impression myself.

To start with, Dorothy demeans people who disagree with her by calling them a variety of ugly names. She has used words like anti-intellectual and anti-intelligent in some of her insults. She has called me anti-intellectual I believe. Now the two things I have been called more than anything else in my life are intellectual and intelligent. So I know that this is mere name-calling on her part and as such, inappropriate. She also demeans people who disagree with her by calling them creeps, weird, stubborn, unwilling to learn and grow and change (because they are not interested in her advice), and this is an incomplete list. Many of her ugliest posts have been deleted.

She mocks people for misspelled words while misspelling plenty of words herself. I recall she mocked Elyse for misusing a word, while misusing them herself. (For example using "affect" where "effect" would have been correct.) She writes on and on and on ad nauseum against writing in all-caps, calling it shouting, while repeatedly typing words in all-caps herself - and not just as an example in her all-caps tirade. She has even mocked someone for using quotes where they would not normally be used, conveniently ignoring that they are being used as a substitute for bolding or italics. The things she doesn't do correctly don't bother me, but her demands that others do those things her way and they way in which she posts these demands seem like bullying to me.

She posted a false statement about something Janice said, then proceeded to attack Janice for it (the foot-trainers post). To me this was probably the most offensive and inappropriate thing of all from her. I definitely considered this to be bullying.

She demands in a haughty tone that people prove any of their assertions, while claiming to be a published author, but showing no evidence of it. Why is that?

Dorothy chooses to behave nicely to people who never contradict her, who are willing thank her profusely, who post that they like her, who post that they want her to stay and also to people who present themselves as strong, such as you and John H.

No bully behaves in a bullying manner at all times, but that doesn't mean the person is not a bully, at least not in my book.

In short, her bullying derisiveness and hostility toward people who display opinions of their own that may not be hers, and who may seem weak to her or without alliances on the board is what drives people off, which I think is what Elyse meant when she said Dorothy has hi-jacked the board.

Result number: 96

Message Number 170375

Re: A Poll View Thread
Posted by Susan on 3/03/05 at 15:37

I remember that post and found it disturbing. As I recall, all Janice N. said was the foot trainer cost more than she could afford or something to that effect.

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Message Number 167016

Re: Good Feet question View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 1/12/05 at 22:45

Well I still like the HTP heel seats for myself, but I read about the Hants White inserts, and they sounded really great. They have a website, if you search for it, and also I had read about it on here. The HTP's are $25 with money back guarantee, the Hants Whites I think are $150 with half refunded within 6 mos. You really need good shoes & good arch supports, I don't know anything about the store you mentioned. God bless, hope you find your solution. Janice C

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Re: Mephistos View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 1/10/05 at 10:36

Libby, I love Meph's they are my choice over Birks, at least in the sandal line. Most have the cork sole like the Birks, but you have to read the description. The Mephisto mobiles have a removable cork bed so you can put in your orthotic or other insole. I have had wonderful experience with Zappo's, they have customer comments & recommendations for each shoe, I have also returned many to get a different size and had no problem at all. Not out any money to try them on either, they pay return shipping. Some of my Meph's were made in Portugal, but some in France. I really liked the Nil but they are discontinued now. I bought an extra pair last year from Sierra and got them for about $49. Same ones I paid $119 for earlier. But Sierra does not have the free return shipping, so I only order from them if I know how the sandal fits my foot. I was unable to wear their other shoes that are not cork bed, my foot seems to need the solid support, so I can't comment on the other footbeds in their closed shoes. God bless!

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Re: Satellite Views of Tsunami View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 1/10/05 at 10:21

Thank you for your beautiful post. There is just something special about our servicemen, you guys always make the world a better place to live in. God bless.

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Re: Heel Spurs on Back of Heel View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 12/27/04 at 14:04

I have bone spurs there also on the back of my right heel. I saw my podiatrist again this morning. I did the shock wave and numerous things. He thinks more than ever that I need surgery. He says that the spur is growing into the tendon and it is like a needle sticking me. I hardly ever get any sleep anymore. I got some temporary relief when I wore that boot on my foot for six wks. He says that tells him it is the spur since I did feels some improvement for a while.
My heel looked very bad. It is very deformed looking.
Still I don't want to have surgery. I am very nervous at the thought. I am diabetic. And too I have other foot problems. I just don"t know what to do. A few days ago I went tumbling down the hallway outside my apt. door. Very lucky I caught myself and didn't fall.

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Re: Questions for HTP Heel Seat Users View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 12/22/04 at 09:10

Trazin, tell us anything you can about the clinical trial, when, any background info you learned about how they were developed, etc. I am so grateful to this guy for making my life bearable. We just returned from doing mission work in Mex, we go every 3 months. We walk miles every day seeing people who are homebound, up & down hills, on rocks, unbelievable that there are people living in the conditions we see in this century! My feet did great, they actually feel better today than they did when I got there a week ago. Now if I can find something kin to Ibuprofen for my arthritis, I can make it! (The IB tore my stomach up, was on hi dose for the PF). May Jesus be Lord in every one's life, this Christmas, & every day. God bless you all.

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Re: Relief for Heel Spur Pain View Thread
Posted by Angela on 12/16/04 at 17:38

Gee, everyone...I am so sorry I posted and then never checked back. But I am SOOOO glad Janice got relief from reading my recommendation and ordering the "Heel That Pain" inserts. I am 2 months into wearing them and am totally pain free! It is actually reversing the condition of PF which I had in BOTH feet for about 3 years (podiatrist diagnosed after x rays). I had tried expensive custom-made orthotics to no avail. The condition was getting so bad I could barely walk anywhere. But after 2 months of wearing the inserts, I can even walk sometimes barefooted in my house without pain (won't make a habit of it, but before the inserts, walking barefoot was out of the question).

I noticed someone said the inserts didn't work for them. All I can do is echo what Janice said--they HAVE worked for me!! I would say to anyone suffering like I was--$25 is not so much to spend to see if these inserts will work for you. And they come with a money-back guarantee if they don't. Don't worry--I don't work for the company. It is not a multi-level marketing scheme! :-) I just want to help anyone I can 'cause I know what it is to hurt.

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Re: Questions for HTP Heel Seat Users View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 12/06/04 at 23:29

I am one who got almost immediate relief, however some of my friends have, some have not. I have a slightly high arch, had PF endoscopic release (I think that is the correct name of the surgery) last summer. Was getting worse by the day in spite of the surg. What has helped me the most, and you know how it is, you have to experiment: I bought a pair of fairly flat Rockports, they do have a very low arch support, and with the heel seats, I have pain that I can live with. I admit I am not 100%, but I am probably 75-80% better than I was. I can walk around the house barefoot without them for about 15-20 min & am hurting badly. I think I must have some trapped nerves in the arch area, because it becomes excruciating, from the front to back. I also have had great luck with fairly flat boots and the heel seats, even those yellow work boots (I think they are Brahmers or some kind of cow!) and my Roper lace up boots. Anyway I can look at them if the name is important to you. I bought these seats for several of my friends whose experiences range from no relief to the same success that I had. I still have the heel pain to a certain extent, but it is better also. I am still losing weight very gradually, I know that is helping too, and I do the stretching exercises every day. If I can tell you any more about my experience, I would be glad to, I have a friend who is a carpenter & he felt of the seat area right under the heel, and said it was about 1/16 of an inch, so it does not do a lot of elevating of the heel, which would NOT help in the long run. Looking at the diagram, I think the "bump" supports the bone that makes the arch. Which makes sense to me. It did feel funny at first, but the longer I wore them, just like they said the better I felt. I wore them I think around 3 hours the first evening, and the next day wore them all day. I have really sensitive feet, can't stand the seam in hose to be under my toes, and my custom orthotics were really hurting my arches, the surface skin I mean. I have had lots of burning, which is somewhat better, some days a lot, some days not. But I am slowly improving. Sorry this is so long. I sure wish EVERY person on this site could find their answer. It is so heartbreaking, debilitating, and depressing to be limited in the normal everyday routine. I went on vacation Sept and found out nearly everything connected with vacation involves walking, especially with other folks along. That was a bummer. After that, I came home, found this website, saw where one lady had success with the seats, thought what the heck is $24 more dollars after all I've spent, her words were similar. If they don't work, send them back, they are guaranteed. God bless you all. Be sure to put Janice C in your response if you want one from me, otherwise I won't get the thread.

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Re: Julie and Dorothy... View Thread
Posted by Julie on 12/03/04 at 02:03


Thank you, Janice!

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Re: Julie and Dorothy... View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 12/02/04 at 22:36

Julie & Dorothy, my heart goes out to you. One scripture that has given me comfort is Ps. 56:8. Our tears are so special, God has a bottle that He saves them in, and writes them in His book. I also think about Jesus how He went about constantly healing people even when He was tired. Living this life in a human body that deteriorates is a guarantee of pain in my opinion. Some experience it sooner than others, but it seems to be a part of this life. I have been praying for so many on this site too. It moves me to tears to read some of the posts. My foot pain is improved, but it hasn't been but a couple of months ago I was in the depths of despair with it. I haven't forgotten that. Some people on here have talked about crawling around the house. That is extremely sad to me. But we can still have purpose, God can still use us to bring glory to Himself, no matter what the circumstance, and it seems there is always someone He sends to us, to lift our spirits & help us cope a little while longer. He always has a purpose for us, but knows we are just dust, He understands our limitations in these "earth suits". I heard one man say that if everything was exactly as we wanted it in this life, we would never want to leave & go on to heaven, where thank the Lord, there is no pain, no tears. God bless you all. Janice C

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Message Number 164609

Latest Orthotics View Thread
Posted by RACHAEL T. on 11/23/04 at 14:46

Janice - where do you live? I am in Pa. BUT, I bet if you searched out a ped. who you approached as I did - w/ this question: Will you work w/ me weekly or periodically as needed to get the orth. comfortable & functional? ~ Just maybe you could get the same treatment from some ped in your town. I hope! Also - remember -- this guy is also a fabricator of artificial limbs--so check those individuals out also as they may not advertise as sellers of orthotics & maybe that is where you should try....? I don't know - as of course, my jury is still out on these - but at this time & for some 2 months - I have had better comfort! I just wanted to write to give hope to others that there may be a way for them to try a similar request to their peds.

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Re: Latest orthotics.... View Thread
Posted by Janice T. on 11/22/04 at 23:36

Please, where is this podiatrist? I haven't found one with any patience. I have tried my latest for 5 weeks and my feet are worse.

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Re: set backs View Thread
Posted by Janice T. on 11/22/04 at 23:33


I am frustrated because I can't seem to find a pattern as to what helps and what doesn't. Just when I think I have it figured out, I have a setback. I thought Pilates was an answer and then my feet got worse. Same with elyptical trainer. WHAT HELPS ?????

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Re: Anodyne Therapy View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 11/14/04 at 17:11

Leon, can you explain about your machine? Where you purchased it, what symptoms you bought it for, etc. I have episodes of burning off & on, have for about 4-5 yrs, was not diagnosed with diabetes ever, until last week, my nurse/pract. says it is very early & can be reversed with diet & exercise, which I am doing. thanks, Janice C

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Re: for ScottR, Scott R View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 11/03/04 at 22:16

Scott, I am interested in getting a pair of the treads. I am still doing very well on the HTP heel seats, still not 100% but I would say 75% better than before (I had endoscopic plantar fasciiotomy (spelling?) last July, but have other stuff going on in my feet, morton's in both, Dr mentioned TTS because of the burning & numb toes. All that has improved with the seats). But I think the treads would help me when I have to be on my feet on concrete. The concrete nearly brings me to my knees. I am still continuing to lose weight as suggested in your book. This website has been such a blessing to me. Thanks so much for yours & everyone's help. I hope to keep reporting improvement. Thanks- Janice C

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Re: My TTS/RSD story (Long!) View Thread
Posted by CReece on 11/01/04 at 11:27

Whoops, I posted this incorrectly! Let me try this again!

---
Rekha - Hi - the rheumatologist diagnosed me with RSD, but when I stopped the ice and stretching - my redness disappeared, my foot became less sensitive and was better able to adjust to temp changes. I sure hope the block works for you!! Here's a great site about RSD if you haven't came across it yet. Some of the info is old, but it was a great resource for me when I thought I was facing RSD - It got me off the ice, etc. which led to an improvement of my particular symptoms.

http://www.rsdrx.com/
Best ~ CReece

Hi Kim - I take a Super B Complex with lots of different B vitamins, the B12 in it is 15 mcg a day. I really notice a difference in my nerve pain and 'activity' when I miss a dose. I truly hope the B12 helps you !

Janice, thank you so much for the info on the night splints! The sleep part is still very challenging for me, this sounds like it's exactly what I need. Send Ms Molly a big thanks for me too!

John, thanks for taking the time to mention ALA. I'm adding that to my list to research and add to my 'bag of tricks' as I continue to tackle this condition.

Warmly ~ CReece

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Re: My TTS/RSD story (Long!) View Thread
Posted by CReece on 11/01/04 at 11:26

Rekha - Hi - the rheumatologist diagnosed me with RSD, but when I stopped the ice and stretching - my redness disappeared, my foot became less sensitive and was better able to adjust to temp changes. I sure hope the block works for you!! Here's a great site about RSD if you haven't came across it yet. Some of the info is old, but it was a great resource for me when I thought I was facing RSD - It got me off the ice, etc. which led to an improvement of my particular symptoms.

http://www.rsdrx.com/
Best ~ CReece

Hi Kim - I take a Super B Complex with lots of different B vitamins, the B12 in it is 15 mcg a day. I really notice a difference in my nerve pain and 'activity' when I miss a dose. I truly hope the B12 helps you !

Janice, thank you so much for the info on the night splints! The sleep part is still very challenging for me, this sounds like it's exactly what I need. Send Ms Molly a big thanks for me too!

John, thanks for taking the time to mention ALA. I'm adding that to my list to research and add to my 'bag of tricks' as I continue to tackle this condition.

Warmly ~ CReece

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Re: My TTS/RSD story (Long!) View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/30/04 at 21:33

CREESE, my sister in law who has had PF a long time sent this after I forwarded your message to her. Hope it helps. Janice C

This lady needs to know about the neat night splints my foot doctor
prescribed for my feet. I had forgotten about them since I have hardly
been able to walk lately and have been putting them on at night now to
keep my heels off the bed because I was in so much pain when I went to
bed that I couldn't go to sleep with out hydrocodone and I have been
sleeping so good now with the night splints.\

They are the most wonderful things created and easy to sleep in. The
ones I use to have were these hard plastic things that were difficult but
now they came out with these wonderful soft ones and my feet are so good
when I step out of bed until I am on them too long during a day.

They are called Healwell CUB. The writing is so small but I think it
says they are made by Florida orthopedics. Miramar FL. 33025
My insurance paid for mine because my foot doctor prescribed them. I
think they would be of big Help to you too. I can't recomend them highly
enough. You are not suppose to walk in them, it wrecks them. He also
gave me some things to wear during the day that are really great since we
have new carpeting and we don't wear shoes in the house. It is too
painful for me to walk on the kitchen floor without shoes so I wear shoes
in there but around the rest of the house I wear these things that he
gave me for day. They have these air things around the ankle and it
pushes air under an air pad that is also under the middle of the foot and
that keeps the heel off the floor when you walk by pushing air from the
ankle down into the air pocket under the foot. I love those too.They say
aircast air heel on them but I could find out from my doctor where to get
them since I go in Tuesday to him.. The phone number on there is
800-526-8785. They slip on the foot top and bottom, the heel is open so
it isn't touching a thing when you walk and are off the floor, they are
wonderful too. Well worth getting. Can you get that info to the lady in
the story right away?

Love,

Miss Molly

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Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/27/04 at 23:35

Suzanne, It makes sense to me. So far so good today. Janice C

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Re: a question for Dorothy about Danskos... View Thread
Posted by Suzanne D. on 10/27/04 at 15:49

Thank you, Janice! Yes, I read about your new inserts and am really glad they are working for you.

I looked on e-bay, and out of the 287 pairs of Mephistos listed. there was one pair in my size! (43) But it's worth checking every now and then; who knows when I might find something I'd like to try. That was a good idea, and I thank you for sharing it.

I've never bought anything from e-bay, but my husband has, so I might have to try it someday.

Take care,
Suzanne :)

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Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Suzanne D. on 10/27/04 at 15:15

Janice, I wish you luck with your new shoes and inserts!

I thought I'd mention that three years ago when I went to the dr. and was dianosed with plantar fasciitis - and before I found this website - I bought a pair of Reebok DMX Walkers. I thought they would be good shoes as the dr. had just said to wear lace-up shoes.

I could never wear them without a great deal of pain and ended up selling them at a consignment shop. I later read on this site from one of the professionals that those shoes were not good for someone with heel pain. As you commented, the heels are too soft and unsupportive. So your assessment of them is correct, I believe.

Good luck!
Suzanne :)

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Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/27/04 at 00:28

Cathy, you can go to heelthatpain.com and read what they say on their website & look at the diagrams. I shopped for 2 hours today, yes my feet hurt, but it is not the terrible pain that I had a couple of weeks ago shopping 30 min. I went to a regular shoe store to find a couple of pair on sale just regular shoes that the inserts felt good in. I bought a pair of Michael's (never heard of them) and a pair of Rockports. Just needed plain shoes with a very firm sole, very low heel. So far so good this evening wearing them. Still having prob with my Reebocks I think the heels are just too soft. You guys keep me in your prayers, and I will do the same for you all. Janice C. hey I'm in Texas too!

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Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Cyndi on 10/26/04 at 11:11

Janice,

What were the other problems besides PF , if you do not mind telling? I cannot wear and enclosed shoe either so am wearing a sandel clog. This is the only thing I can wear! When I first started havig foot pain MY General Dr told me to wear a show with a small heel( I was in Sneakers)
as that would stretch the PF tendon. I am POD DR poor and wish I has just listened to her and gone on with life. I cannot even wear the custom orthodics made for me with the New Balance 925 shoes. I felt for so long I needed the enclosed shoe for balance, but, heck I want to walk again so it is clogs for me now.

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Re: Heel spurs/ Using Methadone View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 10/26/04 at 11:02

What amazes me how much your feet can still hurt even when you take pain meds for other acute and chronic pain conditions. Seems like nothing touches foot pain. Janice N

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Re: Upsetting posts View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 10/26/04 at 10:57

I have said here before I live in an Independent Living Center for the retired or disabled. There are 160 residents. I feel like I have to tiptoe around many here during election time. Sitting down one day drinking coffee a lady came up to me and proceeded to say that my president did this and that. Now when he got to be just mine I dont know. haha
Last wk when the subject of Kerry verses Bush came up I made the comment of how tired I get of all the bashing. Especially when it comes to personal attacks on their families. So one lady tells me well you know the saying if you can't stand the heat get out the kitchen. And she meant me. My point was why bash and drag family members into it? My opinon is you have one vote and exercise your right by doing just that.
All the millions spent just floors me. I keep thinking of what we could do with all that money.
I don't attack others for who they support because it is their right to do so. I sure haved learned in the past three yrs to avoid discussing politics in the community room and keep on sipping my coffee.
I do think it is possible to say what you believe in and what you have to offer without bashing and dragging your opponent's past and family into it. Doesn't make me think much of either side that does it. I am much more interested in what they think and have done in their time in office or past career tan what dirt they dug up on others. Thanks for the space here to vent. Okay it is out of my system. And I agree to give them 24 hrs to say this is what I have to offer. Don't need to hear it for a yr and millions of dollars later I haven't changed my opinion one bit. And go ahead and spend the 20 bucks on makeup.

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Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 10/26/04 at 10:36

Thank you Janice C. and good luck with that root canal, too!

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Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 10/26/04 at 10:26

For the past two yrs I couldn't hardly put a shoe on that was closed in the back. I had horrible pain to the back of the heel. Mostly due to other foot problems besides the PF. My diabetic shoes don't cause pain in this area but they are just about the only shoe I can wear besides the sandals. It sure gets chilly in the winter months even with socks on. Even in Texas. Janice

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Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Cathy G. on 10/26/04 at 08:47

Janice, Could you please elaborate on the htp? I havent heard of that. Thanks

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Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/26/04 at 00:09

Dorothy, the HTP heel seats have been wonderful in my Justin Roper boots, but in the Reebocks I have don't have that firm sole, they look like compressed foam, you know what I am talking about? So I am going to look for some shoes tomorrow that will feel as good as these Ropers with the insert. I have had Reebocks in the past that have a hard plastic sole, and I am wondering if that is the problem, those softer foam heels.I am still overweight also, 5'5" at 179#.BUT going down slowly, praise God. I have lost 20# but sorry to say it has taken me a year just to take off that. Not a lot of self-control in that area. I got myself into this situation not walking, not watching my weight. Until forced to do something. The whole ball of my heel burns after a day in the Reebocks, but today wearing my Ropers, as the day wore on, I got better instead of the usual "worse". Plan to have an extra rubber sole put on them anyway, my husband & I have done that on our boots for years, so you won't feel rocks when walking across a gravel parking lot. Wearing these inserts is all new to me, so I am in the process of experimenting. On the HTP website, it says they work with any kind of shoe. But wearing them with insoles with arches was not good. I have learned to listen to my body. If it burns or hurts, probably doing some damage. Either the package or the website (may be testimonials, not sure) says the longer you wear them, the better they feel, and that your foot will actually heal itself over time. I will keep everyone posted from time to time as to my progress with the inserts. It also talks some about the guy that invented them, it sounds like he may see patients, and I noticed too that one testimonial praised the staff (there's a toll-free number) for their help. Since I had the major flare-up after carrying cases of food, I was very interested in his explanation of "load" helping me understand why I could not, absolutely could NOT stand in place for more than 10-30 seconds without intense burning on the soles of my foot. As for other shoes, I noticed on Footsmart they have some shoes with 2 removable insoles and hard rubber soles. I want to see if removing the top one that has the arch support will give me the room for the heel seat yet still have the flat one underneath for support. I am thinking I will try that in a couple of paychecks. I am having work done on the other end this week (root canal!). Expensive. So will have to wait on the really expensive shoes. But if I have just one more pair to switch to, it will be better. I just need something to wear with a dress. However I am NOT complaining, if I have to bog into church Sun morn with these cowboy boots on I'll just pull on the old blue jean skirt!! I hope I NEVER complain about style of shoe again! I am just so relieved to be able to do most of the things I need to do without that terrible pain. I am still not 100% but so much better. I really hesitated to say anything so soon, because I don't want to give anyone false hope. I know how devastating that is. My heart goes out to everyone on this website with footpain. I am so glad I found it, it has been wonderful. Thanks for your comments. Janice C

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Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 10/25/04 at 23:26

Janice C. - It is wonderful to read about your improvement and how obviously happy it is making you feel. I know we will all be hoping along with you that this continues; it is truly good news.
If you would give some clarification on something I am unclear on: did you say that the heel inserts work for you in one pair of shoes but not in others (Reeboks, for example)? If that is true, can you explain why you think that is so? Do you mean that they would NOT work in "sneakers"?
Thank you for any further information you can give - and again, congratulations on your happy news!

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Re: a question for Dorothy about Danskos... View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/25/04 at 22:55

Suzanne, did you read about the inserts I ordered that were recommended by Angela? I am still doing wonderful. Every day is a little better instead of worse. I am still planning on continuing to lose weight, as soon as I can I am going to start walking to strengthen my feet also. If you want to try the Mephistos without spending $$$$ I have a favorite search on ebay for them, and have bought 3 pair used with really good luck. They hold their value well, and cheapest I think I paid was $25. There are hundreds of Birks that sell really cheap on ebay for those who prefer them. Mephs are fewer & farther between, but worth watching for. God bless you all! Janice C

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Message Number 162151

Re: Types of Shoes View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/25/04 at 22:37

I am in AGREEMENT with Angela(see her posts). I bought the HTP heel seats on her recommendation because I have steadily deteriorated over the years, much faster this year than ever (age 52). I was actually eyeing the electric shopping carts at Wal-Mart. Getting depressed. My custom orthotics uncomfortable. Had endoscopic plantar fasciotomy last July in right foot, planned on doing left foot soon. I had my doubts about the heel seats, also ordered the bio-gels at the same time. Got the gels first, no luck. Got the heel seats, they form their own arch, so my best experience was to put them in my lace-up Ropers, low heel, very firm soles, lots of toe room, cushioned flat insole. Put them in the boots, they are marked right & left. I was in shock. I had written a diary of my burning soles a couple days before, and how 3 toes on each foot are numb all the time. I had tried to do my shopping, could not stand in 1 place when in line to check out, had to constantly shift from 1 foot to other. Came home in tears, took me most of the day to try & shop, could not finish due to the pain. So got home that evening the HTP's came in the mail. It was unbelievable. No burning! The next day my feet felt a little better. Every day is a small improvement. I expect it to take some time, will let you all know how it is going. I am praying to the Lord Jesus this is the answer. I am off my pain meds also- I am not 100%, but ANY improvement was better than what I was going through. I cancelled my left foot surg. Also have a morton's neuroma in both feet, but I got out of the shower & felt what I thought was the cat's tail under my right toes & jumped! I was feeling the fuzzy rug for the first time in months! One person had said these heel seats just elevate your foot. I disagree. I would not have used them if that was the case, he is right, that would not help. The actual part that goes under the heel is thin. The seats have a bar that from the diagram on their website looks like it supports the bone that forms the arch. It is uncomfortable at first, but I also have a high pain threshold, and after the other pain, this is minor discomfort in trade for the relief of burning & numbness. I actually went shopping and though my feet were aching & tired, I was happy, & the next day, my feet were good to go- before, if I continued on my feet, I suffered 2 weeks & had to take extra NSAID's which I am afraid have given me an ulcer. I have hope again. They are worth a try & have a money-back guarantee. I tried to wear them in my Reebocks,but I am unable to tolerate them well right now. Maybe it will get better & I will be able to go to the Reebocks. I used to grieve over not being able to wear pretty dress shoes, now, who cares as long as I can walk without that terrible pain. I have drawers of insoles, orthotics. I have spent $$$$ on Drs & this surgery not to mention Mephisto shoes, which are 100 times better than Birks to me (Birks are too flat for me). So I was willing to try this $25 insert. I hope it helps other people too-I am still in shock myself after all these years of pain to be rid of 75% of it. Thank the good Lord!!!!!!! I hope it helps someone else. THANK YOU ANGELA for telling me about your experience with them. You are a God-send.This is a repeat on some other posts, I can't help but respond with my experience. I know how exasperating PF is. Please forgive if you have read this somewhere else. Janice C

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Re: planters fascitis View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/25/04 at 22:29

I am in AGREEMENT with Angela (see her posts) I bought the HTP heel seats on her recommendation because I have steadily deteriorated over the years, much faster this year than ever (age 52). I was actually eyeing the electric shopping carts at Wal-Mart. Getting depressed. My custom orthotics uncomfortable. Had endoscopic plantar fasciotomy last July in right foot, planned on doing left foot soon. I had my doubts about the heel seats, also ordered the biosole-gels at the same time. Got the gels first, no luck. Got the heel seats, they form their own arch, so my best experience was to put them in my lace-up Ropers, low heel, very firm soles, lots of toe room, cushioned flat insole. Put them in the boots, they are marked right & left. I was in shock. I had written a diary of my burning soles a couple days before, and how 3 toes on each foot are numb all the time. I had tried to do my shopping, could not stand in 1 place when in line to check out, had to constantly shift from 1 foot to other. Came home in tears, took me most of the day to try & shop, could not finish due to the pain. So got home that evening the HTP's came in the mail. It was unbelievable. No burning! The next day my feet felt a little better. Every day is a small improvement. I expect it to take some time, will let you all know how it is going. I am praying to the Lord Jesus this is the answer. I am off my pain meds also- I am not 100%, but ANY improvement was better than what I was going through. I cancelled my left foot surg. Also have a morton's neuroma in both feet, but I got out of the shower & felt what I thought was the cat's tail under my right toes & jumped! I was feeling the fuzzy rug for the first time in months! One person had said these heel seats just elevate your foot. I disagree. I would not have used them if that was the case, he is right, that would not help. The actual part that goes under the heel is thin. The seats have a bar that from the diagram on their website looks like it supports the bone that forms the arch. It is uncomfortable at first, but I also have a high pain threshold, and after the other pain, this is minor discomfort in trade for the relief of burning & numbness. I actually went shopping and though my feet were aching & tired, I was happy, & the next day, my feet were good to go- before, if I continued on my feet, I suffered 2 weeks & had to take extra NSAID's which I am afraid have given me an ulcer. I have hope again. They are worth a try & have a money-back guarantee. I tried to wear them in my Reebocks,but I am unable to tolerate them well right now. Maybe it will get better & I will be able to go to the Reebocks. I used to grieve over not being able to wear pretty dress shoes, now, who cares as long as I can walk without that terrible pain. I have drawers of insoles, orthotics. I have spent $$$$ on Drs & this surgery not to mention Mephisto shoes, which are 100 times better than Birks to me (Birks are too flat for me). So I was willing to try this $25 insert. I hope it helps other people too-I am still in shock myself after all these years of pain to be rid of 75% of it. Thank the good Lord!!!!!!! I hope it helps someone else. THANK YOU ANGELA for telling me about your experience with them. You are a God-send. Thanks to all on this website for the info, and Scott for his website & book. Janice C

Result number: 129

Message Number 162079

Re: not TTS, but maybe rsd-stage 1 View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/25/04 at 00:56

One more thing I want to add in hopes someone can be helped. I am in AGREEMENT with Angela (see her posts). I bought the HTP heel seats on her recommendation because I have steadily deteriorated over the years, much faster this year than ever (age 52). I was actually eyeing the electric shopping carts at Wal-Mart. Getting depressed. My custom orthotics uncomfortable. Had endoscopic plantar fasciotomy last July in right foot (which did help the one spot that was painful- good Dr. too), planned on doing left foot soon. Also Dr mention TTS being a possibility when I told him about the whole sole burning. When you were a kid did you ever walk across a hot asphalt driveway barefooted? That's how they have felt for about 4 yrs. It really got bad a couple of years ago, had gained 10# and was carrying cases of groceries to stock our church's pantry-). I had my doubts about the heel seats, also ordered the biosole-gels at the same time. Got the gels first, no luck. Got the heel seats, they form their own arch, so my best experience was to put them in my lace-up Ropers, low heel, very firm soles, lots of toe room, cushioned flat insole. Put them in the boots, they are marked right & left. I was in shock. I had written a diary of my burning soles a couple days before, and how 3 toes on each foot are numb all the time. I had tried to do my shopping, could not stand in 1 place when in line to check out, had to constantly shift from 1 foot to other. Came home in tears, took me most of the day to try & shop, could not finish due to the pain. So got home that evening the HTP's came in the mail. It was unbelievable. No burning! The next day my feet felt a little better. Every day is a small improvement. I expect it to take some time, will let you all know how it is going. I am praying to the Lord Jesus this is the answer. I am off my pain meds also- I am not 100%, but ANY improvement was better than what I was going through. I cancelled my left foot surg. Also have a morton's neuroma in both feet, but I got out of the shower & felt what I thought was the cat's tail under my right toes & jumped! I was feeling the fuzzy rug for the first time in months! One person had said these heel seats just elevate your foot. I disagree. I would not have used them if that was the case, he is right, that would not help. The actual part that goes under the heel is thin. The seats have a bar that from the diagram on their website looks like it supports the bone that forms the arch. It is uncomfortable at first, but I also have a high pain threshold, and after the other pain, this is minor discomfort in trade for the relief of burning & numbness. I actually went shopping and though my feet were aching & tired, I was happy, & the next day, my feet were good to go- before, if I continued on my feet, I suffered 2 weeks & had to take extra NSAID's which I am afraid have given me an ulcer. I have hope again. I took care of my 1 yr old grandson this weekend. My husband could not believe I was doing so well, yes, at the end of the day they were tired, ready for rest, but we had the boy 3 days, every day I get up, I am amazed). All I can do is tell you what they have done for me, I know that one thing will not help every person, but I have tried so many things. They are worth a try & have a money-back guarantee. No shipping either right now from their web site heelthatpain.com. I tried to wear them in my Reebocks,but I am unable to tolerate them well right now (the Reebocks feel squishy in the heel, I was feeling some burning in the whole ball of my heel that I did not feel in the hard rubber sole). Maybe it will get better & I will be able to go to the Reebocks. I used to grieve over not being able to wear pretty dress shoes, now, who cares as long as I can walk without that terrible pain. I have drawers of insoles, orthotics. I have spent $$$$ on Drs & this surgery not to mention Mephisto sandals (cork bed soles), which are 100 times better than Birks to me (Birks are too flat for me, irritated my PF). So I was willing to try this $25 insert. I hope it helps other people too-I am still in shock myself after all these years of pain to be rid of 75% of it. Thank the good Lord!!!!!!! I hope it helps someone else. THANK YOU ANGELA for telling me about your experience with them. You are a God-send. Janice C

Result number: 130

Message Number 162077

Re: My PF 99% cured. There IS hope! View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/25/04 at 00:32

I am in AGREEMENT with Angela!!!!!! I bought the HTP heel seats on her recommendation because I have steadily deteriorated over the years, much faster this year than ever (age 52). I was actually eyeing the electric shopping carts at Wal-Mart. Getting depressed. My custom orthotics uncomfortable. Had endoscopic plantar fasciotomy last July in right foot, planned on doing left foot soon. I had my doubts about the heel seats, also ordered the biosole-gels at the same time. Got the gels first, no luck. Got the heel seats, they form their own arch, so my best experience was to put them in my lace-up Ropers, low heel, very firm soles, lots of toe room, cushioned flat insole. Put them in the boots, they are marked right & left. I was in shock. I had written a diary of my burning soles a couple days before, and how 3 toes on each foot are numb all the time. I had tried to do my shopping, could not stand in 1 place when in line to check out, had to constantly shift from 1 foot to other. Came home in tears, took me most of the day to try & shop, could not finish due to the pain. So got home that evening the HTP's came in the mail. It was unbelievable. No burning! The next day my feet felt a little better. Every day is a small improvement. I expect it to take some time, will let you all know how it is going. I am praying to the Lord Jesus this is the answer. I am off my pain meds also- I am not 100%, but ANY improvement was better than what I was going through. I cancelled my left foot surg. Also have a morton's neuroma in both feet, but I got out of the shower & felt what I thought was the cat's tail under my right toes & jumped! I was feeling the fuzzy rug for the first time in months! One person had said these heel seats just elevate your foot. I disagree. I would not have used them if that was the case, he is right, that would not help. The actual part that goes under the heel is thin. The seats have a bar that from the diagram on their website looks like it supports the bone that forms the arch. It is uncomfortable at first, but I also have a high pain threshold, and after the other pain, this is minor discomfort in trade for the relief of burning & numbness. I actually went shopping and though my feet were aching & tired, I was happy, & the next day, my feet were good to go- before, if I continued on my feet, I suffered 2 weeks & had to take extra NSAID's which I am afraid have given me an ulcer. I have hope again. They are worth a try & have a money-back guarantee. I tried to wear them in my Reebocks,but I am unable to tolerate them well right now. Maybe it will get better & I will be able to go to the Reebocks. I used to grieve over not being able to wear pretty dress shoes, now, who cares as long as I can walk without that terrible pain. I have drawers of insoles, orthotics. I have spent $$$$ on Drs & this surgery not to mention Mephisto shoes, which are 100 times better than Birks to me (Birks are too flat for me). So I was willing to try this $25 insert. I hope it helps other people too-I am still in shock myself after all these years of pain to be rid of 75% of it. Thank the good Lord!!!!!!! I hope it helps someone else. THANK YOU ANGELA for telling me about your experience with them. You are a God-send. Janice C

Result number: 131

Message Number 162076

Re: Relief for Heel Spur Pain View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/25/04 at 00:21

I am in AGREEMENT with Angela!!!!!! I bought the HTP heel seats on her recommendation because I have steadily deteriorated over the years, much faster this year than ever (age 52). I was actually eyeing the electric shopping carts at Wal-Mart. Getting depressed. My custom orthotics uncomfortable. Had endoscopic plantar fasciotomy last July in right foot, planned on doing left foot soon. I had my doubts about the heel seats, also ordered the bio-gels at the same time. Got the gels first, no luck. Got the heel seats, they form their own arch, so my best experience was to put them in my lace-up Ropers, low heel, very firm soles, lots of toe room, cushioned flat insole. Put them in the boots, they are marked right & left. I was in shock. I had written a diary of my burning soles a couple days before, and how 3 toes on each foot are numb all the time. I had tried to do my shopping, could not stand in 1 place when in line to check out, had to constantly shift from 1 foot to other. Came home in tears, took me most of the day to try & shop, could not finish due to the pain. So got home that evening the HTP's came in the mail. It was unbelievable. No burning! The next day my feet felt a little better. Every day is a small improvement. I expect it to take some time, will let you all know how it is going. I am praying to the Lord Jesus this is the answer. I am off my pain meds also- I am not 100%, but ANY improvement was better than what I was going through. I cancelled my left foot surg. Also have a morton's neuroma in both feet, but I got out of the shower & felt what I thought was the cat's tail under my right toes & jumped! I was feeling the fuzzy rug for the first time in months! One person had said these heel seats just elevate your foot. I disagree. I would not have used them if that was the case, he is right, that would not help. The actual part that goes under the heel is thin. The seats have a bar that from the diagram on their website looks like it supports the bone that forms the arch. It is uncomfortable at first, but I also have a high pain threshold, and after the other pain, this is minor discomfort in trade for the relief of burning & numbness. I actually went shopping and though my feet were aching & tired, I was happy, & the next day, my feet were good to go- before, if I continued on my feet, I suffered 2 weeks & had to take extra NSAID's which I am afraid have given me an ulcer. I have hope again. They are worth a try & have a money-back guarantee. I tried to wear them in my Reebocks,but I am unable to tolerate them well right now. Maybe it will get better & I will be able to go to the Reebocks. I used to grieve over not being able to wear pretty dress shoes, now, who cares as long as I can walk without that terrible pain. I have drawers of insoles, orthotics. I have spent $$$$ on Drs & this surgery not to mention Mephisto shoes, which are 100 times better than Birks to me (Birks are too flat for me). So I was willing to try this $25 insert. I hope it helps other people too-I am still in shock myself after all these years of pain to be rid of 75% of it. Thank the good Lord!!!!!!! I hope it helps someone else. THANK YOU ANGELA for telling me about your experience with them. You are a God-send. (I am posting this on several of the questions I have been reading, so it is repeated. I know it may not help everyone, but I am so glad I tried them-I could kiss the guy who invented them)Also thanks so much to this website, you all are wonderful). Janice C

Result number: 132

Message Number 162074

Re: Richard C.Ped - Another Follow up Re: Can an aggressive arch support damage your foot? View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/24/04 at 23:58

I am in AGREEMENT with Angela!!!!!! I bought the HTP heel seats on her recommendation because I have steadily deteriorated over the years, much faster this year than ever (age 52). I was actually eyeing the electric shopping carts at Wal-Mart. Getting depressed. My custom orthotics uncomfortable. Had endoscopic plantar fasciotomy last July in right foot, planned on doing left foot soon. I had my doubts about the heel seats, also ordered the bio-gels at the same time. Got the gels first, no luck. Got the heel seats, they form their own arch, so my best experience was to put them in my lace-up Ropers, low heel, very firm soles, lots of toe room, cushioned flat insole. Put them in the boots, they are marked right & left. I was in shock. I had written a diary of my burning soles a couple days before, and how 3 toes on each foot are numb all the time. I had tried to do my shopping, could not stand in 1 place when in line to check out, had to constantly shift from 1 foot to other. Came home in tears, took me most of the day to try & shop, could not finish due to the pain. So got home that evening the HTP's came in the mail. It was unbelievable. No burning! The next day my feet felt a little better. Every day is a small improvement. I expect it to take some time, will let you all know how it is going. I am praying to the Lord Jesus this is the answer. I am off my pain meds also- I am not 100%, but ANY improvement was better than what I was going through. I cancelled my left foot surg. Also have a morton's neuroma in both feet, but I got out of the shower & felt what I thought was the cat's tail under my right toes & jumped! I was feeling the fuzzy rug for the first time in months! One person had said these heel seats just elevate your foot. I disagree. I would not have used them if that was the case, he is right, that would not help. The actual part that goes under the heel is thin. The seats have a bar that from the diagram on their website looks like it supports the bone that forms the arch. It is uncomfortable at first, but I also have a high pain threshold, and after the other pain, this is minor discomfort in trade for the relief of burning & numbness. I actually went shopping and though my feet were aching & tired, I was happy, & the next day, my feet were good to go- before, if I continued on my feet, I suffered 2 weeks & had to take extra NSAID's which I am afraid have given me an ulcer. I have hope again. They are worth a try & have a money-back guarantee. I tried to wear them in my Reebocks,but I am unable to tolerate them well right now. Maybe it will get better & I will be able to go to the Reebocks. I used to grieve over not being able to wear pretty dress shoes, now, who cares as long as I can walk without that terrible pain. I have drawers of insoles, orthotics. I have spent $$$$ on Drs & this surgery not to mention Mephisto shoes, which are 100 times better than Birks to me (Birks are too flat for me). So I was willing to try this $25 insert. I hope it helps other people too-I am still in shock myself after all these years of pain to be rid of 75% of it. Thank the good Lord!!!!!!! I hope it helps someone else. THANK YOU ANGELA for telling me about your experience with them. You are a God-send. Janice C

Result number: 133

Message Number 162073

Re: not TTS, but maybe rsd-stage 1 View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/24/04 at 23:24

So sorry for your pain. I did not understand foot pain myself until I experienced it. Never again will I underestimate the distress it causes. Just try hard to stay positive & this is a great website for info & help, I am new, but it has been a real blessing to me. Your family may not understand, but just keep as positive as you can & you are in my prayers. Janice C

Result number: 134

Message Number 161854

Re: a question for Dorothy about Danskos... View Thread
Posted by Suzanne D. on 10/20/04 at 17:25

Thank you, Janice, for your message! I agree: it is hard for people to understand what foot problems are really like unless they have experienced them like we have.

I have not ever tried Mephistos but would like to someday. My internet searching I had planned to do was impossible earlier this week as we had storms and then some computer problems. But everything seems to be working fine now, so when I get some more time, I plan to keep looking.

Thanks again for your comments! I hope you are doing well these days.
Suzanne :)

Result number: 135

Message Number 161757

Re: a question for Dorothy about Danskos... View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/18/04 at 22:51

Suzanne, thought I would add- I change shoes often too with my Morton's & PF. I have been able to wear all the Mephisto sandals with the cork bed, and some also have the anatomical footbed without the cork, such as the Nil, but I think that one is discontinued. I cannot wear the Birks, just too flat, but had a pair of Arizonas that was the closest to my Mephisto's comfort. I have about 5 pair, love the ones with double adjustable straps so you can wear them with a sock. I wish you well. I never in my life imagined I would have the problems that I have with my feet. It is hard for folks to understand unless they have had problems themselves, bless their hearts.

Result number: 136

Message Number 161691

Re: to: Darlene, Terri, Julie, and Dr. Z--Re. Foot cramps View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/17/04 at 16:39

I have had severe leg cramps, mostly in calves of legs for years, since a child. Went on the Atkins diet a yr ago to lose some wt due to the PF problems in both feet. Cramps stopped within about 2 weeks, guess what I discovered, I've also been anemic all my life because I don't like meat particularly. My HCT & hemoglobin are normal!! No leg cramps in past yr.

Result number: 137

Message Number 161558

Re: just a thought, Rachel... View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/14/04 at 22:17

Has anyone on this site ever tried Mephisto shoes? I could not wear the Birks, too flat, but the cork bed Mephs have made walking at least bearable. Janice

Result number: 138

Message Number 161465

Re: dress shoes View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/13/04 at 22:35

I have had really good luck with Mephisto shoes, the mobiles and ones with a cork bed. The Birk is too flat for me, aggravated my PF. Not pushing a store but Zappos.com will ship them to you free and returns are free. I've ordered several pair, also had to send back several pair to get a good fit. The ones with straps work for me because my foot is slightly narrow. The cost is high, but these are about all I can wear. They have a firm footbed. I haven't tried their closed-in shoes, all I have are sandals. They are really cute too. Good luck.

Result number: 139

Message Number 161377

Re: oooch painful burning feet View Thread
Posted by Janice C on 10/12/04 at 22:20

Also suffer with this problem, haven't had a definative diagnosis on it yet, tarsal tunnel was suggested. Had endoscopic plantar fasciotomy on the right foot in July, and that particular pain has improved 90%. Plan to do the other foot after Christmas, but in the meantime, I get up, feet gradually start the burning, I take Bextra 20mg daily, the feet both get red & puffy, tender to touch, can't stand for more than a minute without moving my feet. I can walk although lifting aggravates the burning, as does walking on concrete for more than 30 minutes at a time. I have been able to tolerate Mephisto sandals (with the cork footbed). I am not having as much luck with my custom orthotics and my Reebocks, which is all I used to be able to stand to wear. All of this started about 15 yrs ago, I was able to deal with it by getting supportive shoes, but over the years it is gradually worsening. I understand anyone who considers amputation. It is sad. Weight does factor in, I have lost 20#, helped, but am still dealing with pain & plan to lose more weight.

Result number: 140

Message Number 160550

Re: Birkenstocks made heel pain worse View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/27/04 at 00:25

When your feet hurt as bad as ours does it is hard breaking in any new shoes. All you want is something that feels good and eases your pain. I have a pair of Birks too. They are not broken in yet. But I haven't given up. There sure aren't going to walk off by themselves. I had a friend that wore nothing but hers for three yrs. She just loved these shoes. I still have the walker shoe from the podiatrist. It sure has relived my foot pain in the right foot by 90 percent most days. It has been a little over two wks and I have four more wks to go. The left foot flaired up bad one day. And today. But I am getting alot more sleep than I had in two yrs since the PF showed its ugly head. I hope my foot has really settled down by the sixth wk. It scares me to go out in it. So if by myself I have to use a cane. Sure wish I had this shoe / boot or whatever you call it 2 yrs ago. Now if I didn't have to get up to the bathroom a zillion times a night it would even be better. On the days I am bed bound due to my other problems and don't put the shoe on I can tell the difference. Anyway I wil try to break the Birks in slowly when this shoe comes off. My sister calls me big foot.

Result number: 141

Message Number 160545

Re: I have carpal tunnel syndrome..... View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/26/04 at 23:50

I had surgery for CTS IN 1991. I know I am getting old saying yrs like that now. Anyway I had surgery for a rotator cuff and then really noticed bad pain in my arms and hands at night. Anyway I had the surgery done the old way as that is how the dr I went to only knew how to do. There is just a fine white line where the scar is. I had a few stitches in for three wks. It wasn't painful after a couple of days. But my hand sure was weak for a while. I didn't want to be put to sleep for either surgery on my hands. So they did a block. This many yrs later I sure they do the scope mostly. The neurosurgen said he didnt like to go in there blindly. But again I don't think he was trained to do it that way. I never thought about pain in ones hands before. At least we dont have to walk on our hands all day.

Result number: 142

Message Number 160049

Re: It"s all about Choices View Thread
Posted by Connie H on 9/17/04 at 10:14

Janice N. I am interested in where you got your treatment in Houston. I'm looking for a more affordable option than I've been offered. I live about 4-5 hours away from Houston, so I'd appreciate a name. Please email me at Belbiolet@yahoo.com. Thanks!

Result number: 143
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Message Number 159813

Re: Rocking boot. View Thread
Posted by chrisb on 9/13/04 at 09:54

I tried a walking cast boot, sounds like yours, like a ski boot with straps etc. From what i can see on the Darco website, the Body Armor boot looks similar to the boot I tried. It held my foot more-or-less rigid so it didn't dorsiflex and rock forward when i walked. But it did not keep the weight off my heel. My weight was still on the heel, and I think this is why it didn't help me.
I'm looking for some kind of contraption that will take the weight off my heel, which is why I'm interested in what Janice said: "takes the weight off my heel". I can't figure out if what Janice and Mbrave have is different from what I tried.
Can you describe to me what takes the weight instead of your heel?
Thanks for your help
Chris

Result number: 144

Message Number 159751

Re: Rocking boot. View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/11/04 at 18:21

Its the same kind mentioned here. It is one you can walk in. Takes the weight off the heel. Like an orthopedic boot for after surgery except it is built up in the heel area. It has made all the difference. The first day it made my knee kind of sore and my leg tired. But I am more used to it and able to walk in it in Michaels craft store today. And I am back to getting some much need sleep.

Result number: 145

Message Number 159732

Re: Rocking boot. View Thread
Posted by chrisb on 9/11/04 at 09:23

Janice -
What is a rocking boot? How does it take the weight off your heel?

2 years ago I tried a strap-on boot that kept the foot from flexing but it didn't take the weight off my heel, and didn't help. Sounds like your boot is different.
Thanks
Chris

Result number: 146

Message Number 159622

Rocking boot. View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/09/04 at 22:23

I went to the podiatrist to get the boot for my foot.
The one to take the weight off my heel. Well I stood up in it and thought I will break my neck in this.
Well it got put to the test. Metrolift didn't show up to pick me up. So I was walking back and forth looking to see if they were coming etc. Went back in to call them and got put on hold for 15 minutes. My point being I had to walk and stand for over an hour or more. I did trip once. I finally took it off as I thought if they send a cab van I will never be able to get up that high in this boot. So I finally get home and think I will be just dying in pain. SHOCK!
I had very little pain. I am talking a level 10 down to a 1. And it has been a very long 2 yrs.next month that the pain is so bad. I went to bed and slept for the first time in I don't remember when. I got up every two hrs to go to the bathroom then right back to sleep. I was a new person today. Just as happy as can be. Went to help a neighbor who fell and broke her shoulder over the weekend. I was too happy to put that contraption on my foot today. And it didn't take me long to learn how to walk in it. If I have to walk out anywhere in it I will take a cane. Wouldn't take much to loose your footing. I only wish I had this a very long time ago. He told me to wear it for six wks.I had one more thing to mention. I got on Metrolift after being upset I was so tired and thinking how will I get home. I looked up and there was a lady around my age. She was in a wheelchair and had a severe case of Lymph Edema. Her feet and legs were so huge and mishapen. And we dropped her off at the Star of Hope Mission. Now if this wasn't a wake up call for me. In an hour I was back home on my bed with clean sheets and able to lock my door and turn on the tv and enjoy the cool AC. This lady just wanted to get back to the sheltor and find her a place to eat her chicken. She had suffered with her problem for over 20 yrs. We talked and I gave her the names and numbers of a few places to call to live. She said she had lived in a Patient Care Home. It looked like she might be homeless. Next time I think how bad my feet hurt or how long I stood waiting to get home that at least I can stand and far worse off persons than I. Not to make light of what we go through with PF. I sure know what it feels like to want to have your feet taken off to get relief.
Anyway I am one thankful person tonight. The Achillies Tendon doesn't feel so tight or painful and neither is there screaming pain in my heel. I am going for the gold and try to sleep two nights in a row. Thank you God.

Result number: 147

Message Number 159415

Re: Surgery or not View Thread
Posted by Dr. Z on 9/06/04 at 11:18

Janice,
I have patient post five years that are pain free after ESWT treatment for chronic PF. The literature, European experience confirm my results

Result number: 148

Message Number 159405

Re: Surgery or not View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/06/04 at 06:59

I remember going to the podiatrist office for xrays.
He told me what he found on them. I told him how long I had pain and what I did for it. Ice, heat, meds, rest, stretching etc. He had given me one steriod injection prior to this. Then he tells me how he can make this one incision and do this and that. I would walk on crutches a couple of wks. That was all the info I was given. My impression was it was a no big deal surgery. But, I had found this site and knew better. I was the one who brought up the subject of ESWT. He said yes he had 15 patients so far who had it done. 13 had had good results. That I would need 1-3 treatments. Now I thought if he had good results why offer surgery right off the bat? Then he says
that with ESWT if will delay surgery a few yrs maybe.
I am just glad for me I didn't take the surgical route and knew it wouldn't just be a snap.

Result number: 149

Message Number 159404

Re: Dr Ed, Dr Z, Dr Wander View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/06/04 at 06:47

It was so many yrs ago. At least 17 yrs. I wondered if it was someting I got from going barefoot outside
in my yard.

Result number: 150

Message Number 159403

Re: has anybody experienced with DMSO ? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/06/04 at 06:45

I tried this for muscle pain last yr. Don't remember if it made it to my feet. Smells worse than locker room feet. haha
I bought B12 one time from the feed store. Checked with a vet first. It was much cheaper than the drugstore in the injectable form and a whole lot cheaper than a shot of it at the drs office.
Remember when everyone was buying the shampoo and conditioner from the feed stores? Now it is sold everywhere. My neice swore by the huff cream for her hands.

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Message Number 159401

Re: oooch painful burning feet View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/06/04 at 06:27

I saw my pain dr last wk. He said he would be glad to change my pain med to a longer acting one but it would be very costly. So I left there with the same medication. What is amazing is the affect the weather has on your pain. I knew what sore feet were. And tired achy feet. But PF is something else.

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Re: removable cast View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/06/04 at 06:22

I go to the podiatrist on WED. to try something like that. I am glad it is helping you.

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Message Number 159301

Re: Dr Ed, Dr Z, Dr Wander View Thread
Posted by Dr. Z on 9/04/04 at 14:40

Janice,

Did he send it out to a lab for an examination.? That will tell you what it is

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Message Number 159287

Re: Dr Ed, Dr Z, Dr Wander View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 9/04/04 at 11:06

I developed a spot on the bottom of my foot many yrs ago. The podiatrist and I could never figure out what it was. It looked kind of like a callous but wasn't.
He removed it when I had surgery for a Neuroma. But it came back. He worked on it again but it came back again. Never did figure out what it is and it is still there. I used to walk outside in the yard without shoes so who knows what I picked up doing that. It is not really painful but I know it is there. PF sure takes my mind of it.

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Message Number 158918

Taping if diabetic View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/29/04 at 12:24

I have only taped a couple of times. It seemed to help. Do you reccomend your diabetic patients tape?
Also if you have Raynaulds what about using ice for short periods of time?

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Message Number 158917

Re: It"s all about Choices View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/29/04 at 12:15

In Houston it was $1,000. for the one treatment plus the cost for the podiatrist to inject your foot to numb it. I think the podiatrist would work with his charges. And you might be able to get a break with the company who does the ESWT. It never hurts to ask.

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Message Number 158616

Re: It"s all about Choices View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/24/04 at 10:14

I had it done once. It seemed to have helped some.
But I have more than one problem with the right foot.
It has been about four months since I had it done.
I would do it again if it had been paid for by Medicare. It was supposed to be preapproved but after I had it done it was denied. Then denied again.
I am able to walk more than I was. When you think about it this is just a small number of persons who post here. If your problem is solved then most won't post. Some here are cured, others have a reduction of pain who had it done. I tell you though the day I wasn't hurting 24 hrs a day no matter what I did or didn't do was just great. This past weekend I had a bad flair when the weather was so bad. I am far from being cured. But it was worth it to get any kind of relief.

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Message Number 158207

Re: Rick's responses / Dorothy. View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/17/04 at 07:28

Rick stated that most pain is psychosomatic. Now how are persons to take that? If that doesn't mean the pain is in your head what does it mean?
It is kind of funny. People get ripped to pieces for comments they make. I did say maybe I spoke out of turn when I shouldn't regarding a product I hadn't used. But I am not the one who keeps bringing it up again. There are posts about the cost of ESWT and how drs are pushing it because they have machines. On the other hand you speak very freely on something you don't like or object to. I read posts to the poditrists that are very critical and wonder why they take so much o it. Micheal posted needing some support in his pain and suffering. Some validation. My attempt was to give that to him and say I sure can understand. Now if Rick had just said I read this book and it sure helped me that would be great. But the part of the post that said most pain is psychosomatic kept me from wanting to read the book. Sure there is a mind and body connection. I don't agree most pain is psychosomatic. In some cases yes. I am entitled to my own opinion just like everyone else. And I do think Rick has good intentions. He found something that worked for him and wants to share it. I stated I had documented medical issues and felt I was being told my pain was psychosomatic. The thread went on and on about three persons going to one dr. Took hours to read. It was suggested by one patient he was the only one who could cure you of PF and don't try any of these other products, surgery or anything else. I took that with a grain of salt. At least this dr was interested in helping his patients. And if three persons got helped great. But didn't mean you shouldn't try some other treatments, products or doctors. And you are enraged I didn't like the suggestion my pain might be psychosomatic and didn't wish to read a book on that subject? Please! You do speak quite freely Dorothy so we should be allowed to do so too. I do think you bring alot to this discussion board. As for myself I was presenting the opposing side of the thought most pain being psychosomatic. Patients with chronic pain disorders should not be left to just live in pain is my point then and now. Especially clearly documented
diseases.

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Message Number 158204

Re: So Much Pain Want To Die HELP rickb View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/17/04 at 06:44

Rick, I see your side of it. Mine was my pass experience with patients were that if the drs couldn't find what the problem was they were labeled depressed and hormonal women who had trouble with their children leaving the nest. After observing that so many times I guess a red flag comes up. I certainly believe in different approaches to relieving pain. And do agree you can have pain that there is no physical cause but rather stem from stress or unresolved emotional issues as I stated I had an episode of back pain that was clearly related to stress at the time. Nothing wrong saying you read a book that helped.

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Message Number 158089

Re: Rick's responses View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 8/16/04 at 11:56

Julie -
I agree with most of your points which, as usual, you have expressed so well; but I don't think that RickB or anyone else has ever said that Dr. Sarno's work is of the "all in your head" school. It isn't. You are right about the affect that the words "all in your head" have; they are dismissive, condescending and flat-out wrong (except in the case, say, of a brain tumor - which would be "all in the head"!)
My own head is pretty foggy today due to some illness but if you will take a look at Linda V's post, I think she has grasped the ideas that RickB has tried to point people towards. Dr. Sarno doesn't "blame" people for their pain. In any case, I don't want to engage in any ongoing rancorous debate with people here who have not even read Sarno's books but proceed to dismiss IDEAS out of hand, ideas that they have not read and do not understand...because they have not troubled themselves to learn. I don't understand that kind of closed mind - well, more to the point, I understand it, but don't appreciate it. It’s a pointless exercise, to engage in those arguments, and usually ends up with someone being angry, someone being petulant and peevish, someone giving lectures, someone getting chastised, and so on – and no light gets shed on the subject! And the only thing that RickB has ever recommended is that people read Dr. Sarno's book(s) and see what they find there, i.e. expose themselves to IDEAS. What is being discussed here is a body of work(Sarno's), IDEAS, and a suggestion to read. Yet some people find that threatening to them in some way. I disagree with you that the defensiveness is understandable. I think it might be keeping doors closed. The only ones who have attached the "all in the head" description to Sarno's work are the people here who have not read his work or have a very superficial view of it. Not RickB, not Dr. Sarno. Some ideas and techniques and concepts are best received by people who actually want change – and who understand that there might be pain, discomfort, adjustments in change.

I do think those responses referred to ARE unwarranted because those people have no actual knowledge of Dr. Sarno's work and are judging RickB's urging them to consider something that helped him, based on something that neither he nor Dr. Sarno EVER said ("all in the head"). It is a false premise that then leads to false conclusions. It is anti-intellecutal and ignorant! (and that is a huge problem in this country!)

Please note: I am neither proselytizing for Dr. Sarno’s work nor speaking against it. I am proselytizing for open minds and for informed opinions.

This discussion reminds me of the contentious exchanges around John of MN's urging people to see Dr. Sandell because doing so had helped him tremendously and he was sure it would help others here. Maybe it would. Just as maybe reading Dr. Sarno's book(s) would help some people here. Just as maybe yoga would help some people here. Yet there is this rising up in opposition to IDEAS, to enthusiasm, to urgings. I think if these posts don't appeal to someone, they should just ignore them and move on. If I "rose up" over every boring post/discussion about ESWT, its types, its costs, it intensities, its usefulness or not, it would be a full time job here. I just move on. If I ever choose to use that technique, then I may be much more interested in learning more about it. But I don't get angry and make disparaging remarks about the ideas about ESWT here....and from what I HAVE read, it may not have any greater rate of success with PF than Sarno has with elimination of pain. Just because John of MN has a style that says “Do it! Go! It helped me! You should go to Dr. Sandell! does not mean that anyone has to do that, but what is the point of arguing with his happiness and his style and arguing against something that might help someone else?? It is just narrow-minded or self-absorbed to do so. Now, if someone says: I went to Dr. Sandell and here is my experience…. that is a different kind of criticism. As for me, I think that people who have found something that helped from their personal experience and knowledge and then share it here, it is a kind, loving act. Sarno’s book costs what, under $20 or use free from a library. Harm from reading it? Likely, none. Help? Possible. Birkenstocks cost what, anywhere from $60-$150.00. Harm from wearing them? Maybe. Help? Possible.

Final point: there is always the underlying hint that some people here have a monopoly on pain and the experience of it and the understanding of it. For example, RickB has said that he suffered for many, many years with PF. Is his pain not equal to the pain of others here? Does it somehow not qualify because he doesn’t just talk about pain, but about something that he found that helped him? Here is one of my own moment's of defensiveness: just because I don't write here at length and in gorey personal detail about current and/or past pain-related events in my life, does not in any way imply that I am not well acquainted with its impact on one's every waking moment. Because it is just not my style to describe every ailment and malady and setback that life has offered me does not mean that I am unfamiliar with any of that. I am a little more Adlai Stevenson and a lot less LBJ. LBJ who famously insisted on showing others his surgery scars, held conversations while on the toilet. described in detail his various physical conditions……
none of that suits me. But it suits some other people and I accept and respect their individual personalities, as I have observed you doing as well.

Janice N wrote negatively about Foot Trainers, of which she had no knowledge. She more recently wrote negatively about Dr. Sarno's work, categorizing it - as have a number of others - in the "all in the head" school, which is false, and she has no knowledge of his work or his books. That is unfair to Dr. Sarno, to RickB, and to other posters who might, for some reason unknown to me, pay more attention to Janice N than to Dr. Sarno or RickB.
When she is challenged on these points, she then uses what I consider a manipulative, disingenuous technique, when she says: I will keep my mouth shut. I learned my lesson to keep my mouth shut. Oooh, I made a big mistake there. And so on. The “lesson that should be learned, in my opinion, is not to “keep one’s mouth shut but not to criticise something of which one has no knowledge.

Now, if Janice N or anyone else wants to write negatively about Foot Trainers or Dr. Sarno – after they have some knowledge about the subject - then that is fine, useful. Or, if they want to direct us all to cited research or cited critiques, then that is useful. Otherwise it is just blather. The problem with that kind of blather is that it just might keep someone away from something that might help them. Informed critiques are wonderful. Questions are wonderful. But dismissing ideas and new developments out of hand because of one's own uninformed OPINIONS is not helpful.

When my words, “attached to pain get put in quotes by a poster in a disparaging way is another example of this kind of thinking. I think that anyone who would rise up in defensiveness and anger on a false premise (“all in the head ) about a book or theories or IDEAS with which they are completely unfamiliar and refuse angrily to even consider: yes, that is an example of being attached to one’s pain. A refusal to even consider the possibility that one can learn something, grow, change and possibly find or create improvement in one’s life implies a fear or suspiciousness of new ideas that could lead to relief and that implies an attachment to the status quo, a fear of change – an attachment to one’s pain. It takes guts to take a chance when you live in the pain arena, sheer courage. And sometimes it hurts like all get out. And sometimes you end up still in the pain arena, but you were there anyway, so what have you lost? Maybe some fear. Maybe some of the closed-mind. And sometimes you get to leave the pain arena for a while or forever.

I recently read your advice to a poster who was in great pain to change her job. Is that an easy thing to do? It takes courage. Sometimes it takes re-education. Sometimes it takes a whole move to a different place. It is quite often change in a big way. The fear and risk behind that kind of change can be tremendous, especially now in the US (and in the UK, I think). It is advice that addresses the very underpinnings of a life, possibly of a family. Yet you made it, presumably because you thought the person needed that advice. It seems to me to make the suggestion to read a book a very modest one.

There. I’ve said my piece. Now, have at it.

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Message Number 158037

Re: So Much Pain Want To Die HELP rickb View Thread
Posted by Susan S on 8/15/04 at 21:09

I know what you mean Janice. About 17 years ago I had debilitating back pain that lasted almost 2 years. Some people here might have said I was "attached to my pain". I went to a PT who gave me exercises which did no good, even though I did them religiously. Then I went to a Physiatrist (an MD who specializes in physical therapy type treatments). He gave me a completely different set of exercises, and within 2-3 months I was pretty quickly "unattached" to my pain.

I think you can look in most anyone's past and find troubling experiences, whether they have any kind of pain or disability or not. So when someone does have some kind of problem like PF, or something that doctors can't find the reason for, it's easy to point to something in their past and say "Aha, that's the reason for it."

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Message Number 158022

Re: Are all of our Posters OK? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/15/04 at 19:08

As I have said I am in Texas. This week our weather has been really nice. Of course it heats up. But it sure has been nice to sit out in the early mornings and enjoy the cool for a change. I have been turning of the AC for a few hrs. My cats enjoy sticking their heads out the window from our sixth floor apt.
It is sad to turn on the tv and see what the persons in Florida are going through. To go home and everything you own is gone. How very sad. When I was growing up my dad had a house moved to a lot and it was remodeled. It was just beautiful. A week before it was ready to be moved into it burned to the ground on my brothers graduation day. I will never forget those feelings of loss. My parents never bought another home. That is as close as I can relate to a loss of a home or personal pocessions.

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Message Number 158021

Re: So Much Pain Want To Die HELP rickb View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/15/04 at 18:52

Here persons come to discuss very real medical problems, seek answers, share and support each other. Many foot problems can be documented on Xray, MRI and Nerve conduction studies. Others are not. So how you arrive at most pain is from unresolved emotions I don't know. My foot problems are from working 15 yrs on my feet, walking on one side of my shoes and being overweight. Now back pain and headaches are often associated with stress and emotional issues. But there are many reasons for that kind of pain too.
And I think persons with those problems really get a bad rap. If you want to believe your foot pain comes from emotional issues then so be it. But this poster came here to vent his frustration with his pain and not be told his pain may not be real. I didn't appreciate it at all myself. Especially after I just stated my past experience working in hospitals with some unfeeling and unsympathetic drs. I have read my share of self help books. But I think it is wise to reword what you are saying. Example I found this to be true in my situation and I arrived at this after reading this book. Not I suggest you read this book because you are suggesting very strongly mayybe our pain is not from a medical reason. This is not a depression or mental discussion group. Although having chronic pain sure is depressing and we can all relate to that. My medical problems are well documented over the yrs. Just not a cure for them.
I would love to be able to do more alternative treatments. But many are not affordable.

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Message Number 158014

Re: pain patch View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/15/04 at 17:51

Never heard of it before. I see where you can buy the topical cream. I will look into it and give it a try.
Thanks for sharing that with us. I crushed up a Motrin one time in some cream and used it. But a patch that last six hrs might be good.

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Message Number 157933

Re: A Question for Julie - Inversion Tables Julie View Thread
Posted by Julie on 8/15/04 at 02:21


Janice

Coccygeal pain (pain in the butt) certainly is no joke. One suggestion: it seems there is a special pillow to sit on for people with your problem. It's called a "donut pillow", and it's described on the excellent website http://www.spine-health.com/, The pillow is described on this link http://www.spine-health.com/topics/cd/pillows/pillows02.html but it's rather far down, so I'll copy it for you:

"Donut pillows. As the name implies, this is a donut-shaped pillow that is placed on the seat portion of the chair. With either a depression or a hole in the center of the pillow, one can sit with much less pressure in the coccyx region. People who have suffered a broken or bruised tailbone or have coccygeal pain (such as coccydynia) may need this type of pillow in order to sit without pain."

I didn't know all this, but I when I saw your post I thought there ought to be a cushion with a coccyx-hole to take the pressure off while sitting, so I did some googling. After I found the spinehealth pillow article, I looked for a place where you can buy a donut pillow, and here it is:

http://www.wisdomandhealth.com/donutpillow.html

And here's a website that gives an overview of coccygeal pain and its causes (including fracture), and suggests various medical treatment modes.

http://www.coventrypainclinic.org.uk/jointpain-coccyx.htm

I hope this helps.

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Re: So Much Pain Want To Die HELP rickb View Thread
Posted by rickb on 8/14/04 at 23:17

Janice, I only persist in giving my advice on chronic pain because I have been there. I think you too could greatly benefit from Dr. Sarno's books. It is the lowest risk out there.

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Message Number 157917

Re: A Question for Julie - Inversion Tables Julie View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/14/04 at 22:03

I fractured my coccyx about 8 yrs ago after a fall in a grocery store. I still can't sit for long after all these yrs. Doesn't matter what I sit on or how. My center of gravity is sure different. When I do sit I look like I am going to get up and walk off any minute. I have to sit forward. Or I get up and move around or lean over a chair. Very hard to visit with others etc. You have any ideas or suggestions? I can't lay on my back at all. Don't think pain in this area doesn't hurt. And hurt yrs later. If you think cortisone hurts shot in your foot you should try a shut there. eeeewe baby it hurt!!!!!!!!! I had an asthma attack the second time just waiting for it.
It wasn't fuuny at the time but I took a nurse friend with me. She was just trying to help calm me down. She said now take a deep breath and calm down. The Dr said stick a big needle in your butt and see if you can calm down. hahahahahahahahaahha It sure wasn't funny at the time and like I said she meant well.

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Message Number 157916

Re: A Question for Julie - Inversion Tables View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/14/04 at 21:51

You know what feels good too if you have your bed against the wall and you can press your feet against it. You can kind of walk your toes up it a bit. And just pressng your feet flat againt the waal feels good for a little bit. It just helps you to be able to exericse them a little differently.

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Message Number 157914

Re: So Much Pain Want To Die HELP rickb View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/14/04 at 21:47

I had an episode of back pain one time many many yrs ago. I was so very stressed out in a situation. I could tell my back pain was not from a real problem.
I can still remember sitting in a chair waiting to talk to this preacher at our church for some advice.
I know many times how stress and situations can cause pain and tension that is not from a real physical problem. But and there is always a but I have seen it time and time again as a former nurse doctors saying this is just in your head. I think it is very unfair
just because a dr can't find out what is causing a problem or your test comes back negative that your pain is not real or in your head. My sis in law had an uncle that went to the dr with pain and weight loss. Couldn't find a thing wrong. Well they buried him about two yrs ago. By the time he was diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer it was way too advanced.
I watched way too many patients cry because they were made to feel like they were just nuts. And needless to say most were women. I went to have PT one time and the therapist said my diagnosis was a trash can disgnosis. Now just because they don't know what causes a disease or how to cure it doesn't make it any less real. Needless to say I didn;t go back to him. ANd his girlfriend had the same so called trash can illness too. I think it does all of us good to read on how to reduce stress and what effects it can have on the body. How holding emotions in can effect us and etc. But when you have documented evidence of a disease process or chronic condition then it should be addressed and you not have to be made to think you are just a hormonal woman who needs to get a life.
One more thing I would like to say is that chronic pain should be treated. Doctors are not taught pain management. Nobody should be left to just have to deal with it. I have a pain dr but there is just so much that can be done to ease the pain with medications.But for drs to withhold medications is plain wrong. I think it is a start in the right direction that many states now have a pain act. The Texas pain act states that a person doesn't have to be dying of cancer to be considered in pain. And that the patient should have medication to ease it. Not the actual words but close. Other states have the same. It still doesn't mean every dr treats their patient for pain. But rather gives them some protection when they order strong pain meds. Because many drs have be threatened with losing their license
and some have for prescribing pain meds. There are strict guidelines for medicating patients for chronic pain with stronger meds. Pain protoccols are in place. You are only allowed to have 28-30 days of medication. You have to see the dr every 1-2 months according to what he or she says. You sign a paper saying you will not get meds from other drs without their knowing it. I read not too long ago where this pain dr did bood testing on his patients. Some were found to have pain meds in their system he didn't prescribe. Some had none which meant they sold their pills and faked pain. Others had too high level of the drug he ordered. So if you failed the test he stopped seeing you. He said don't write, call or email him askng why. This was a dr that was said to really put himself out there for his patients.
Sorry this got so long. But I don't think a persons should have to suffer in any kind of chronic pain without some help. And no just intervention with pain meds is not the answer. With our foot problems there are many things we have to do ourselves. And it seems medication does little to ease our pain. Too bad we can't have the money these polititions use to run for office to treat our pain and diseases. All these millions of dollars. Just give them some air time and what they believe in and have to offer. And we will see their money is put to a good cause of reliving our discomfort. But then politics is another can of worms. I am not saying don't read this suggested book. Just that just because they can't find the cause of your problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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Message Number 157909

Re: So Much Pain Want To Die HELP rickb View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/14/04 at 21:11

I have dealth with severe pain for 14 yrs now in numerous joints. And now my feet . I can say I really understand. The last few yrs have been the worse. Sometimes it is hard to get through such bad pain days. I wish I had some good advice to pass on to you. I don't ever sleep well anymore. I have tried everything. I have to get out of bed to turn over. If I was to sleep two or more hrs in a row then I am so stiff I can't move. Last week I went to a massage school. I only go once a yr as I don't have the money. But I had to do something for myself. I had gotten some one for my birthday. I tell you I almost stated snoring I was so relaxed when she gently massaged my feet. She said do you want to turn over or just work on your back some more. I said no I almost fell asleep from you rubbbing my feet. I got so light headed when I went to get up I had to have her tighten my shoes up from me when I put them on.lol Only real pain relief that helped my feet. But at 30 bucks an hr I can't go back. And while it felt good to my shoulders, back and feet I had rebound pain later and it all started back up again except in my feet. It sure was a nice treat. I did tell her not to rub hard on my feet. If I had my choice to help with pain it would be whirlpool and massage. I mean a real whirlpool. And then massage. But Medicare sure won't pay for that. I used my foot spa the other day but it didn't help at all. I wonder all the time how I will go on yr after yr in all the pain I have. This added painin my feet is a nightmare.

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Message Number 157905

Re: So Much Pain Want To Die HELP View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/14/04 at 20:57

I tell you Michael I am on pain meds for another pain disorder. But it just doesn't hardly touch the pain in my feet. If I add a Celebrex or a Betra it is a little better. But I think when your feet hurt it makes you feel bad all over. It has been almost two yrs for me. I did everything short of standing on my head the other day. Nothing helped. Now My foot is weak on the top where your foot and leg connect in front. I had to put an ankle support on and borrow a cane just to walk to the bathroom. I am so afraid of falling. I hope you are able to find some help somewhere. My thoughts are with you.

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Message Number 157650

Weakness in ankle View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/12/04 at 06:32

The foot I had the ESWT is becoming very painful again. The last few days I noticed my ankle is very weak. I have to be careful each step I take for fear of twisting it or falling. I haven't been well enough to get to my podiatrist but need to I know. Last week I was standing on it for a longer period of time and it is rally flaired up. I got another Medicare statement saying the ESWT is not covered. The code you posted is the one they used. I don't know what I am going to do. The back of my heel is so painful. I think I could almost tolerate the bottom of the heel pain if the Achilles tendonitis and bone spur at the back of my heel wasn't such a problem. There is a huge area of bone growth at the back of my heel. It looks like I have two totally different heels. I am just so limited on funds to try different things. This on top of joint pain is pretty hard to deal with. I almost feel like my foot needs to be imobilized. I am going to get someone to pick up an ace bandage at the store for me today and borrow a cane until I get to the dr. And pray I don't hit the ground. I just don't know what to do. And I sure don't want to have surgery. I think the only way I am still walking is my diabetic shoes feel so good.

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Message Number 157114

Re: heel pain View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 8/06/04 at 21:07

After spending 11 yrs on my feet as a nurse I can tell you don't put off getting help with a foot problem. My feet are a major problem with muliple conditions. Heel spurs, Arthritis, Tendonitis,
Neuromas and PF. I wore good shoes. First thing to do in working as a nurse is too take care of yourself first Or you won't last. Watch your weight, exercise and learn to handle your stress. I was a couple of yrs older than you when I became a nurse. I became disabled at 34 do to chronic disorder having to do with my immune system and muscle pain.. I can pass this info on to you because I didn't do a good job of seeing to my own health care and feet. I was too busy taking care of everyone else. Be good to your body and especially your feet. First problem I had with my foot was a Neuroma after 3 yrs of nursing. I always had jobs where I spent most of my time standing up. I didn't have much foot pain except from the Neuroma. Towards the end of my working I had pain from a heel spur.I had my foot xrayed. Before the podiatrist came back in the room he was running down the hall to show another patient what a big spur looked like on my xray. I had an injection and did well for a few yrs.
Years later all my foot problems caught up with me. Now I deal with bad pain every single day. So get to a podiatrist very soon and see what the problem is.
Don't think you have to see an orthopedic dr. Because podiatrist have more experience as this is there line of work. Most orthos do mostly knees, hips, shoulders etc. It can get confusing. My sister went to both. The ortho said throw away the 200 dollar orthotics the podiatrist had made for her. I just think one should go to a dr. that deals only with the feet if you can. She went back to the podiatrist. She works as a Licensed P.T. Assistant. It took her three injections, icing her feet, taping and exercise. She hurt so bad she had to sit down to treat her patients. After a yr she was able to get her pain under control. And she could hardly walk.

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Message Number 156719

Re: Swimming a View Thread
Posted by Buck T. on 8/01/04 at 16:24

Hi Janice: Any tips on how you do water leg exercises? Thanks, Buck

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Message Number 156649

Re: Marketing? No: just over-enthusiasm John H View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/31/04 at 09:46

I have seen and heard of many persons spending alot of money they didn't have for so called treatments.
It was for an illness that no treatment or cure was known. Or even what caused it in the first place.
I was involved in studies of experimental meds.
Persons suffering for so many yrs will do almost anything and take many risks. I heard several women tell me they bought so many herbs they hid them from their husbands and the bills for them. Sometimes you are just desperate in your search for help. Since 1991 I was told and so many others this one drug was the answer for this illness. And here it is 13 yrs later and this drug hasn't been approved for use. The few who were in clinical trials found once they were taken off it the symptoms returned. And one treatment
of the IV medications was thousands of dollars. I know that even if did get FDA approved nobody could afford it anyway. But for many yrs it did give myself and many others hope something had finally been found to help us. I wasn't part of tis study. So I do understand persons trying to find help of any kind but also how one can find themselves
exhausting thier bank accounts and still not better.
I would like to be able to try some things like massage and whirlpool and a few more conservitive things. But Medicare is getting harder to deal with these days to get services approved let alone what they dont think you need. Yet the cost of treating you with high priced medications is a real problem.
I know I am somewhat off topic. But when it comes to chronic pain it is all the same subject really. I do think if the three persons here could make it happen to go to MN and see this dr and it helped then and didn;t hurt then bravo. And I do believe it is not the only treatment but if it is one of them then great and I am happy for those who got help!!

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Message Number 156643

Re: marketing View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/31/04 at 09:23

I would pain my feet purple if it helped the PF.
If I could afford this dr and a trip I would do it too. There is nothing so bad about telling of the treatment this dr does. I am thrilled for those who are getting results. I can't stand and clap for these three persons and the dr as my cat is resting comfortably on my back while I am typing.
Thanks for drs everywhere who have an interest in our foot problems and in finding treatment for us.
It is no different than those who don't think ESWT is an effective treatment. It is your right not to have it if you don't. If you don't want to go to Dr S you don't have to.
I sure have learned to think before I open my lips to speak. A worthwhile lesson in life.
When and if I find something that gives me great relief I will be posting it and shouting it. And I will give the credit where credit is due.

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Message Number 156641

Re: Thanks for these boards View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/31/04 at 08:58

Now that is an idea. The docs could just drive around with an ESWT machine and treat all our feet. Now I don't guess we could convice them that is would be a working vacation and see all parts of the US? No they are way too smart for that. But should you want to come don't come to Houston in the summer months. You could do an ESWT party because there are several of us who live here.

Rules for the ESWT party at my apt.

Wash feet before you come over.
No cutting in line.
Bring your own bullets to bite on in case the
injections doesn't block the pain.
No kicking or hitting me if it still hurts.
Bring a massage therapist so while one person is getting ESWT we can each get a nice relaxing massage.
If you want to drink it is BYOB.

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Message Number 156639

Re: This is the greatest website hands down !!!!!!!!!! View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/31/04 at 08:46

The persons who post on this board have been a lifesaver for me! I didn't know much about PF and never heard of ESWT. I would have given into surgery had I not found this site. There are differences of opinions and certainly different personalities. That is to be expected. We are here to learn and share what are own experiences are. And to be supportive.
I thank all of you. The docs who take their time to respond to post over and over again. The sufferers of all kinds of foot problems and those who found relief from one source or another. You know the old saying. It doesn't matter how you get up to the top of the mountain as long as you get there. There is nothing
posted here I wouldn't be willing to try. For me though it is very limited resources. But I still like to hear what others have tried and have gotten good results. I went to a professionally run support group
a few yrs back for a chronic disease. And I always liked what the leader had to say. The first rule was to say what worked for yourself and not what someone else should do. Later on I attended a similar type group led by a fellow patient. The first thing that
bothered me was she slammed the dr I went to and then without knowing me for five minutes made suggestions of where I should go to a dr and that I should go back to work and do part time private duty nursing.
I like the first group much better and attended it as long as it was there. I think if a question is asked then it is great to answer it. But in a way that says this worked for me. Or you might want to try this.
Being in pain can sure get a person stirred up. And having foot pain for months and years you are eager to help and to get answer for yourself.
I haven't found another site who could compare to this one. I think we all mean well and have the best intentions. Where I live I have said all week it is the heat making everyone cranky including myself. hahahaha This is a great bunch of persons at heelspur.com. Janice

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Message Number 156635

Re: On a humorous note View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/31/04 at 08:05

I can mail you a check right out Dr Z. Oh excuse me Dr Saint Z. Promise you won't cash it for a few yrs or so. Janice

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Message Number 156310

Re: Pain less after ESWT? / A second one? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/26/04 at 20:03

When your feet hurt as bad as ours it affects your whole body. Not to mentin your mood. Then I go and smash my toes and foot in the elevator. So now my left foot feels almost as bad as my right one.
I am tired of all the pain. Need a nice relaxing massage and whirlpool and a foot transplant. Not expecting any of it.
I hope you find some relief soon.

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Message Number 156266

Re: Pain less after ESWT? / A second one? View Thread
Posted by Anna H on 7/26/04 at 10:25

Janice, just came in on these emails. I had ESWT in May and so far I think that I have more pain now than I did before the treatment. I've even doubted that my podiatrist was as thorough as he needed to be but then I feel like I need to blame someone or something. I have altered my life to accommodate this problem. Stopped a lot of day long shopping, etc. I walk, rest, walk, rest. It's the only way to get through a walking excursion. My pain runs up the back of my ankle so, of course, I'm wondering if I have a problem with the Achilles tendon. I paid out of pocket for the ESWT and am very disappointed in the results. My podiatrist suggested the "old" way of treatment...invasive surgery. I don't even know if that is an answer. Nice to have someone to talk to that has an understanding of how I feel. Thanks for listening, Anna

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Message Number 156192

Re: Ladies,Ladies Ladies? View Thread
Posted by john h on 7/24/04 at 09:47

Hey Janice I like the sweat suit and tennis shoes look. I immediately know who ever is wearing this outfit that we have at least one thing in common and we have not even met. I was in Starbucks yesterday and a young woman about 20-25 came in with a pink mini skirt about 12" long and she was covered with tattos from her toes to her head (legs,back,arms, you name it) and yes she had on stilletos. I did not look to see what she was riding but if she had on different shoes I would suspect a Harley Hog.

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Message Number 156181

Re: Ladies,Ladies Ladies? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/24/04 at 07:01

They are coming out with some nice looking Birks. As I posted before I watch them on QVC. They have come a long way in making different styles of shoes.
My pair of Arizonas I am breakng in. I thought this is going to take a long time. But them feel good in my arches really quick. I was really surpised how wide the shoes are. I can see where these shoes really work for some and not for others. I hope I am a success story.

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Message Number 156180

Re: Ladies,Ladies Ladies? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/24/04 at 06:57

Okay John. How do you like the sweatsuit and tennis shoes look for women? haha
I have never been able to wear high heels. I could sprain my ankle just looking at a pair. I bet I never wore a pair of shoes with over an inch or so heel.
My ankles were just too weak.

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Message Number 156179

Re: I've been spoiled - My central AC died last night...... View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/24/04 at 06:53

Hey there is something to be said to living in a small town when the AC goes out. You can sit out and watch for the repairman to come home. lol

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Message Number 156178

Re: I've been spoiled - My central AC died last night...... View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/24/04 at 06:50

I live in a ten story building on the sixth floor. My AC bit the dust in the middle of the night a wk ago. And I live in Texas. I kept thinking who do I know here with an extra bed. lol I had an ice pack on my head as I already had a bad headache when it went out. The AC was replaced with a rebulit unit. My bill last month was $127. and that was with a discount of 13 dollars. You don't hear from me again you know I had heart faliure when I opend my bill for this month. This is a one bedroom apt. The AC is like the ones they have in Motel 6. I don't know what they were thinking when they put those in an apt for the elderly and disabled. Not affordable at all.
I hope you are enjoying AC soon. When you are used to having it and then it goes out it is bad. Especially
on the weekend.

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Message Number 156177

Broken toe? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/24/04 at 06:34

Power cut off long enough to loose post. One more time. I was moving a friends electric scooter to her new apt. last night. Since I never used one before I was slow. The elevator smashed against my toes. OUCH!
Thank goodness it wasn't my bad foot. Anyway I put ice on it last night. When I am standing it feels like my toe is giving out. I guess not anything to do if it is broken? When it rains it pours. I really didn't need this.

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Message Number 156114

Re: Pain less after ESWT? / A second one? View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 7/23/04 at 10:08

Janice:
An overgrowth of bone in back of the heel is often the body's way of trying to reduce the excess motion between the achilles and back of the heel bone.
Ed

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Message Number 156101

Re: Pain less after ESWT? / A second one? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/23/04 at 06:20

I have Achillies Tendonitis in that foot. Plus the overgrowth of bone. That is why I cant tell what is what. The reason why I don't know if I should do a second treatment or not. If I do the bottom again I guess maybe I should go ahead and do the back again too.

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Message Number 156083

Re: Pain less after ESWT? / A second one? View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 7/22/04 at 19:37

Janice:
Both Dr. Z and I have noted that the success or failure of one treatment is not a very good predictor of what happens on the second treatment. I prefer that low energy ESWT be used on the back of the heel. Also, many problems at the back of the heel occur at the area in which the achilles tendon attaches to the back of the heel. The achilles has good tensile (pulling) strength but seems to get into trouble when twisted. A heel bone that moves side to side too much in gait is often a culprit so hopefully you have had a good biomechanical evaluation.
Ed

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Message Number 156037

Re: Another pair of orthotics? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/22/04 at 07:39

Did it take you a while to get used to wearing your Birks? I had a pair yrs ago before I had so many foot problems. I have a pair now. Arizonas. I had a coupon and thought well I will give them a try since I can get them for twenty five dollers less. I don't know how to break them in. Because they don't feel so comfy it is hard to make yourself start breaking them in. I put them on some while at home. I wear my diabtic shoes mostly out of the house. Or my Clarks which have a raised heel and feel pretty good. For me Clarks are a good pair of shoes and are not as expensive. Some mistake them for Birks that is how close this pair looks like them. I need to give the Birks a good try as I am paying them each month. Only way I could afford to buy them. And I worried for nothing they wouldn't be wide enough being a regular and not wide. My diabetic shoes are ugly as sin but they sure do feel good. Add a pair of footies and I look a sight. lol I feel like a clown with the big shoes. Well a size 9 sure isn't small.

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Message Number 156035

Pain less after ESWT? / A second one? View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/22/04 at 07:24

Sometimes I just can't tell how much good the ESWT did with all the other foot problems I have. The pain is in other areas of the foot. I was on my feet a whole lot yesterday. I was not limping or walking slow or anything. My foot is very sore today but still I am able to do alot more walking without severe pain than I was three months ago. Yes it hurts on the bottom of my heel today so I know what most of the pain source is from. But I am not awake all night every night anymore either. I have hours with greatly decreased pain in my heel.
I really don't know what to do as far as having a second ESWT. Will a second one really make a bigger improvement? As far as the back of the heel it was a bust. I am just as sore and having as much pain. I had to to the bottom of my heel and the back.
How much improvement should I have gotten to consider a second ESWT? And if I do should I even bother with the back of my heel since I didnt get any results?

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Message Number 156034

Re: foot nerve test View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/22/04 at 07:12

Many moons ago I had two done and this dr was a Physical medicine/ Rehab dr. He was very gentle doing it too. It was for Carpal Tunnel and a neck problem. I liked his advice. After I just had the second one done he told me if a dr ordered it again to get up and run out of their office. As two was enough. I was 34 at the time and he said they need to fix your neck. Well as I said this was many moons ago 14 yrs to be exact and my neck is fine. I did have problems but I hardly ever even have a pain in my neck anymore. I had been in an accident. But turns out my shoulder was the source of my problem and the Carpal Tunnel. Also had Breast reduction. Now I stand tall and my shoulder is pain free for the most part and my hands too. Now I wish I could say that about my feet and my joint pain.

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Message Number 156033

Re: Ladies,Ladies Ladies? Dorothy View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/22/04 at 07:00

Okay as long as those pumps had low heels. Not that I ever owned a dress with poka dots but you know I think navy dresses with a small white dots on it still looks nice. lol Regards to Mighty. Janice

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Message Number 155829

Re: Sharing my experience about ESWT with you View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/19/04 at 11:23

I had to go back to read what I was saying to you. I was talking about before ESWT to have time to rest, ice, heat, exercise etc. As far as being off your feet after the ESWT I was told not to overdo it. But it is not like a surgical proceedure where you need some time off them usually. Still with it causing acute inflammation I would take some time to rest them. That is what I did. Wasn't very long that I went back to the pool but had to be careful how much water walking I did. And there has been alot of duscussion on the board about ice and heat along with anti inflammatory meds after ESWT. Every dr has a different opinion but there are reccomendations.

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Message Number 155827

Re: Medicare View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/19/04 at 11:12

That was the drs answer when he called in reply to my letter to his office. That it could be coded under three different ways. And who was I say to no it isn't if I didn't know. He is the one that would be out the 1,000 bucks because it was billed through his office. Now I am hoping it is something in the code. And I can say from personal experience that wrong codes get used all the time and have to be redone. I am sure I will be finding out real soon. He will be here I think next week to see patients in my building and I will make an appointment to see him. If we both agree I need ESWT again I sure won't get it if he doesn't get paid for it.

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Message Number 155826

Re: Janice N View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/19/04 at 11:04

Email me at angelofmercj@webtv.net
I live in Houston so you are not that far away. Had it done in the podiatrist office. I am 12 wks post ESWT. Email me so we can discuss further. He did a local injection.

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Message Number 155825

Re: I finally shook my pf - my sixth marathon may be w/in reach View Thread
Posted by Marty from SLC on 7/19/04 at 11:03

Oh wow Janice you have really had a bad time of it. I so sorry.

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Message Number 155823

Re: I finally shook my pf - my sixth marathon may be w/in reach View Thread
Posted by Janice N on 7/19/04 at 10:43

Let me explain about how my problems came about. I was a nurse up to 14 yrs ago. I never sat down except to chart. I had a neuroma and a heel spur then. I had the neuroma removed. Did pretty well for yrs. The last few had tingling and pins and needles sensation.
My health problems startd in 1990. I tired everything and some experimental meds. Went through months without hardly being able to be up and about. Had surgery in 1990 on both hands for carpal tunnel, left shoulder for rotator cuff repair. Afew yrs later had sinus surger and a breast operation. Later my gallbladder removed. All this on top of two chronic illnesses that involved major chrnic pain all in my joints. During most of this time I had very little foot pain through the yrs. I had one injecion for the heel spur. The first fw yrs I walked as much as I could still. As my illnesses got worse couldnt walk harldy any distance without having to be in bed a long time. 1/12 yrs ago I moved as I have said before. Just down the hall. But these floors are concrete in my building with the floor covering not soft all all. I got my fet in a heck of a shape. I should have seen a dr then. But having been under the care of drs for yrs and so much illness I didnt want to see another. I tried ice and foot exercises and Celebrex. It just never calmed down. I havne't slept well in all this time. But I am awake with chronic pain anyways. Tried everything. But this added foot pain sent me over the edge all most. So I did see a podiatrist and had one foot injected. Then had ESWT done 12 wks ago tomorrow. I now go to the pool twice a wk for water exercises. Oh what I left out is last yr I was on my feet a whole lot more trying to be more active in my building. I was hea of the resident council for 160 persons who live here. Strictly vounteer work. Did most of it from my bed and chair and on the phone. But some things I was on my already flaired up feet. I have a weight problem. Which has been addressed by me since developed Diabetes this yr. I think in the beginning when you have acute inflamation you have to be off your feet in order to heal them. But when it becomes chronic it doesnt seem to matter if you just do nothing and stay off them. In fact alking feels better at times. But like everytime in moderation is the key. You just have to see what works best for you. There are lots of things I would like to try but money stands between me and it. When you are in the kind of pain we are with our feet you would do almost anything to get relief. Short of surgical intervention which I have really come to question since reading here and I am glad.
As much as I did rest and was off my feet things just didnt get any better at all. But then I let the situation get too bad. And I have multiple foot problems now. I didnt have all this foot pain when I was on them all those yrs. Now it is a nightmare.
Because added to the other pain I have I sometimes want to scream in the street. The pool helps with the stiffness a whole lot and keeps me moving more now.
Excessive rest isnt the answer for most illnesses. But sometimes the body doesnt hear that. You get up and your body knocks you back down. So you have to find a healthy balance with rest and exercise.

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Message Number 155801

Re: Sharing my experience about ESWT with you View Thread
Posted by Gino on 7/19/04 at 02:46

Janice, ice and heat treatment was not advised by my doc but prior to the ESWT when I asked him about it he said he doesn't like to recommend it to his patients because the time has to be pretty much, if not exactly, the same on ice and heat so, if you decide to do 5 mins. on ice you should also put heat on it for 5 mins. At this point in time, I am doing exercises in the pool as mentioned in my previous msg and doing ultra-sound. Next Saturday I will have the shape of my foot taken for the orthotic but I need to know from my doc how little exercise I can do to not compromise the treatment overall. He sort of hinted that I'd need to do a second ESWT but then didn't mention again. It is really strange of him to tell me that without even knowing how my foot would react to the treatment. I am sorry about the good doctors out there but until I really feel I am in that trusting level with this doctor he will have to answer a lot of my questions.

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