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Message Number 254220
Re: Question about Graston technique - DavidW View Thread
Posted by Jen R on 1/21/09 at 06:02

Hey David...I haven't heard many people say they have foot pain from sitting in a chair...but my feet just ache from sitting in a chair. The lower the chair the more it hurts my feet. The lower style beach chairs are absolutely the worse. My husband just can't believe that when we are traveling distances in the car that I'll complain how achy my feet are. I constantly shift my weight when we travel just to get my feet off the floor. I just don't understand that.

In any event, I've always been afraid to try Graston because I just don't think I can tolerate the pain. I had reflexology twice and it was extremely painful and a chiropractor worked with pressure points and worked to break up some lumpy tissue in my thighs but all it did was hurt like hell, bruise me to the point it looked like I had fallen down steps or been beaten. It certainly didn't help my feet.

Anyway, good luck with the Graston,

Jen R

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Message Number 252270

Re: TTS View Thread
Posted by Amy on 11/14/08 at 18:38

Hi Stephanie,

Today I'm 4 weeks post op for TTS release on my left foot. It took 2 and a half years for the doctors to realise what I had wrong and to operate, so by the time they had operated my tunnel was flat as a pancake and even impressed my surgeon with how bad it was!

I was given a general anaesthetic, and spent a few hours in hospital after waking up before being sent home with my mum. They bandaged my foot up pretty well, gave me painkillers and a velcro boot thing to use when moving about. I had to ask for crutches, as my notes gave the nurses no instructions, but boy did I need them! I wasn't told if I could weight bear or not, so I just listened to my body and did what I could.

First few days I only moved to go to the bathroom really, and I couldn't put my foot down at all. I must have had a long acting local in the ankle too, because the pain only kicked in the next day. The pain wasn't that bad until about 3 or 4 days in, but I'd become used to a fair bit of pain prior to the op. By day 5 I ventured out (with my mum), although only to places where I could go from house to car etc, and I learned to be pretty nifty on crutches! For the first 2 weeks, I relied heavily on my mum to help with simple things, as although I could eventually get to the kitchen for a drink or whatever, I couldn't carry anything back!

I got my dressings changed by the district nurse at my request one week post op. I didn't see the consultant until almost 3 weeks post op, who seemed happy enough. I won't be getting any physio, apparently young people heal well and never have anything wrong, yeah right! The bandages came off completely when I went back to the consultant, and he took my crutches/boot away too. I'm not back at work yet- I went back on Monday morning, they took one look at me and sent me straight home and they've been really understanding. I'm finding sleeping difficult, as I get quite restless legs and often kick myself by accident!

4 weeks in, and I'm pretty much off painkillers, and I can limp about relatively well for short periods of time, although going down stairs or hills is a nightmare. Shoes aren't comfortable, so I'm often in slippers. I can bend my foot down, but not upwards, and my arch is a little achy, but not like it used to be. My bruising is nearly gone, and the bottom 2cm of my 6cm incision has practically healed. The rest is well on its way. Its still swollen, a little hard/lumpy, and quite numb, but the pins and needles have gone, and I even have something resembling an arch. I've been told I may not lose the numbness completely, but so long as the pain stays away I don't mind :)

I hope this helps somewhat. Get yourself a stash of books and films ready in advance, and try to have someone on hand to help for the first few days. Have some comfy clothes ready washed and ironed, and make sure you have easy to prepare food in your cupboard. Let us know how you get on! Amy

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Message Number 247322

Re: Fascia Release surgery on both feet? View Thread
Posted by Gene on 6/04/08 at 15:31


I did the ESWT on Monday. It wasn't that bad - just felt a bit of tapping on the foot before the anesthetic worked itself in. Afterwards, my foot felt tingly and looked redder than a X-mas tree ornament. As for how I feel now, it's hard to say because I'm following my doctor's advice and have not run or weight-trained this week. So, obviously, I'm not feeling any pain in the heel. Touching the heel, I don't feel it to be any different than prior to the ESWT. So, right now, I'm skeptical of the effectiveness of the treatment, even though I'm suppose to give it about 30-60 days before we know for sure.

The ART treatment felt like I got a really strenuous, rigorous massage of my calf and heel muscles. I didn't feel any worse for doing it, but it didn't permanently fix my brother, of course. After awhile, I stopped doing it because the sessions were starting to get expensive. I've tried cryo, but I didn't feel any different other than get a few lumpy, nonpermanent bruises from where the doctor stuck me with the probe.

Feel free and let me know what your progress is. It's cruelly ironic for us guys who try to lead a healthy life but we're the ones who get sidelined by these mysterious injuries.

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Message Number 240658

Achilles or Retrocalcaneal Bursitis or ???? View Thread
Posted by CMarie on 12/11/07 at 23:25

6 months ago I injured my left foot while hopping onto a walkway. I misjudged the distance and my foot was forcibly bent upwards. While this was not particularly painful, in the following days while walking steeply uphill several times daily I noticed painful needling sensations around the ridge of the back part of my heel about 1' from the bottom. In the month or so following this progressed to a burning numbness which spread upwards another inch or so, so that I now have continual numbness throughout this area with flareups of burning sensations particularly in the area just to the outside of centre. I get similar burning/numb pain in a line ascending from this spot. This back heel area has also become quite lumpy and swollen. I also have aching pain in my achilles tendon area and it is also visibly swollen. I now hear frequent cracking/catching of the tendon ascending above the lateral malleolous.. My ankle often feel stiff and like it is slightly out of joint or about to be. I have considerable crepitus in that leg/knee/ankle?? when bending it. I have a 10+ year history of sciatica on that same side but diagnostics done several years ago did not show a related nerve compression. I am an otherwise healthy 48yr old non-smoking female. My other leg is completely normal and painfree. I am not particularly active but had been golfing regulary in the months prior and shortly after the injury. Numerous treatments have been tried, incl. rest, ice, stretching, eccentrics, NSAIDS, ultrasound and massage, with each being contradicted and abandoned by Doctor/physios when results were not forthcoming. Checked and don't need orthotics. Using heel lifts and achilles strap, relative rest. What would be your recommended course of action at this point? I have pain most of the time, increasing as the day progresses.

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Message Number 234978

Catching up on posting View Thread
Posted by Kate on 8/27/07 at 12:00

Lots of stuff has been happening! It sounds like there is a plenty of good news for Linda and Michelle. Flying sounds so exciting and having your hearing over and done with must be a great feeling.

I'm walking for the next month in the dreaded boot but at least it is walking! My ankle is feeling pretty good since the allograft but it looks, well - lumpy and purple. So I guess my days as a foot model have ended? Other ankle will be having a tendon sheath injection in 2 weeks to see if it won't settle down my tendinopathy. Dang thing looks like I have a hot dog shoved under the skin.

Still, I can walk and actually feel pretty good all things considered. Did I mention yet that my new grandchild is a boy? We're pretty excited even if he is months away from being born.

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Message Number 234076

plantar fasciitis View Thread
Posted by raine on 8/08/07 at 11:13

i was diagnosed with plantar fasciitis which flared up after a particualrly heavy day at work. I turned my ankle a couple of times also , once soon aftre and once recently. It has continued for nearly two years up and down and suddenly got worse and i have a lumpy area on top of my foot(not bony) near the ankle joint and slightly lateral to centre. The pain was cented on the layteral side of my heel bone and sometimes medial but now there is considerable discomfort through the joint and i cannot walk for more than about an hour without hobbling. at rest i experiecne a lot of sudden shooting pains. It improves if i stay offf it but retuirns with use. Should i stay off my feet completely and do you think i have a problem other than Plantar faschiitis, I can walk about a mile but slowly,

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Message Number 230788

Fusions View Thread
Posted by Chewlet on 5/30/07 at 03:36

First, I would like to thank Dr. Wander and Dr. Z for the great information they provided me with in their replies to my last post, I really appreciate it :)

I got my bulky splint off today and finally got a look at my foot. WOW!!! I LOVE my new toe, and the whole new look it gives my foot! What an improvement from the lumpy, bruised looking old joint. It's gorgeous, smooth and perfectly straight with an ever so slight angle to it. It's awesome to finally have a foot that looks normal again AND without all the pain! The bruising isn't so pretty, and there is still a little swelling though, but at least that's not permanent. When I put it next to my 'bad' foot (that still needs to be done) the difference is incredible!

My surgeon decided to allow me to have a boot rather than stick me into a cast, so that I could bath and shower BUT I had to promise to adhere to the non weightbearing restriction for another 3 weeks until I see him next when he will do x-rays to see how it is coming along. Then MAYBE he will allow me to START putting a little weight on it IF it is healing well.

I've only been in this boot since this morning and am finding it AWFULLY tempting not to put a 'little' weight onto this foot now that it has the boot one it. In fact, there has been several times today where I have found myself leaving my crutches behind and 'gently' using the heal of my boot and trying not to put too much weight onto my foot, so that I could carry things around my kitchen or house today.

I know this is doesn't fall under the 'non weightbearing' restriction I promised to follow, but if I am careful is it really bad to do? I am also having a hard time adjusting to the bulkiness of this big boot! There have been three occasions where I have done things that were probably not too good for my toe today. The first was walking in from outside right after getting it, my boot tripped on my crutch (I know, clumsy), and my fused foot slammed down really hard onto the ground to catch my balance-that hurt bad, sent shocks and pain to my toe but settled down within a short time. The second time, I somehow caught the tip of the boot on the corner drawer of my island as I was going around the corner (don't know how I managed this!), it caught right at my big toe-pulling it out to the side...this hurt REALLY bad and actually brought tears to my eyes but again the pain subsided after resting it for awhile. The third time wasn't quite as bad (I don't think) but I somehow managed to slam a door into the end of my toe as I was opening it, which hurt for awhile but settled down again.

So tonight my toe is somewhat more sore than it was when it was so nicely protected in the soft, padded splint :( Today has been a day of change. Am I doing a really bad thing by 'gently' using my foot, although my surgeon said non weightbearing? I think part of my awkwardness and clumsiness with the boot and crutches comes from not having a lot of upper body strength and I tire easily, which makes me more accident prone.

Would you be able to give me an idea as to how concerned I should be with these types of mishaps? I did think about calling my surgeon to ask about this, but I just saw him this morning for my checkup and I certainly don't want to be bothering him with every little thing I do because as you may be able to tell...there may be a lot more to come. Hopefully I can safely make it to where I can plant both feet firmly on the ground!

One more question on a different topic. I noticed that the previous poster had mentioned a fusion by a specific name. Are there different types of fusions? If so, could you tell me what they are and if you know, what the name is for the specific type that I had done to my first MTP joint?

Thanks again :)

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Message Number 225307

Re: James - Is today better? View Thread
Posted by james e on 3/17/07 at 04:38

omg its 4:10 am central and i cant sleep. the spasms with the knife type stabbing pains are going crazy on the inner, and outer parts. wtf is happening to me. was my injury that bad? level 3 inversion, total destruction of the outside of ankle. and i felt the stab on the inside, that is still present 9 years later.

when i came down for the rebound, i left my right foot dangling a little, folding it under, my big toe touched my calf, then i fall straight back on my head, lol. the stab inside never went away, the outer ligaments healed, but have since hardened. i have like 20 percent range of circlular motion, if i try harder, the joint feels like a saw blade being stuck in it. pivoting movements make the outside feel like it will tear open. the top part of the foot has remained tender since the injury. along th scar line and below the outer knob hurts on underneath the skin, and the skin has always been numb. underneath the skin below the outer knob is VERY painful to the touch and has a lumpy mass, if i brush it on a pillow to hard, it hurts, it makes no sense! but the skin is numb! lol, once i hit it not too hard on a couch as i was sitting down, right on the padded wood, and it hurt so bad my eyes watered. i wasnt crying, but it made them water, and i started to sweat. sorry for another rant, its almost 4:30 now am, i cant sleeps.

this wave needs to pass quick, this is very intense. its kinda cool, scary, and um, scary. man, the human body is cruel, strange, amazing, beautiful, and just plain weird. 10 days, 4 hours to go, lol, i dunno if i can keep going. ive been living with it 9 looooong years, since the day of the injury. it feels like my body is shutting down from all the shaking, and its not stress related right now, its the sharpness and the way the pain is traveling from inner knob, outter knob below it, twitch in arch, twitch behind achilles, sharp jab. the original injury prolly felt like a 9 on my pain scale(was in shock, prolly shoulda felt like a 18,) the sharpness of the jabs right now are like a 13 even tho the scale stops at 10 :( they take my breath away.

phew, theres another mouthful. this is crazy whats happening, how can the human body do this to itself. why didnt i fully heal? was there something they missed? why are there ever increasing spasms, that never happened till about 4 months ago? have any of you ever heard of anything remotely like this?

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Message Number 225152

Re: James - Please get some help!!!! View Thread
Posted by james e on 3/14/07 at 22:23

yea, its gettin to the point where im not joking. lol jk. maybe not.

just got back from the podiatrist. he definately sees somethings wrong. he thinks there is an rsd component to it, cause of the severity of the pain. but i talked to him about tarsal tunnel, described the injury, he said thats also possible.

he was shocked, that the pain doc dropped me, without tryin at least one other type of nerve block, other than a lumbar one.

it was partially my fault i guess, i questioned him to much. doctors dont like patients that want to learn every single aspect of whats happening. at least the ones i've dealt with. they're more concerned with money.

but, the doc tonight suggested loyola in maywood. he says they have great neurologists their, all concerned with helping, not money.

its messed up, in the suburbs, where there is a ton more money, thats all the doctors care about. in the big cities, theres less money, and the doctors concern is usually patients health. seems kinda backwards to me. but ppl have to make a living some how.

as much as i say i'd cut it off, i really wouldnt. i still hold hope one day i can be fixed, its just time is running out.

spasms traveling up my leg is a VERY bad sign. it needs to be stopped NOW, before there is any more damage to the rest of my body.

no i'm not a doctor, but one can sense when there's something majorly wrong, and i heard the best words from the doc today 'son, i know your not faking, the inside ankle bone, doesnt grow out all lumpy and deformed for no reason.'

i am trying to not let it break me, but its getting harder and harder.

after some more talk, i am seriously thinking of starting the neurontin. the only problem is, i have a 60 pill prescription, say it does work, and i run out. but that would take a while, cause i was directed to take 1 at bed for first 3 nights, then 1 morning 1 bed next three nights. then one morning, noon, night. he also said, as i've seen on here, 'if you read everything about every drug, you would never take any of it' i dont know why i'm afraid of it, it just has a scary name or something, i have a bad feeling about it for some reason. i think i've gone wonko. but, i'm just gonna keep going, hoping to get help and either loyola, or university of chicago. i must hold it together till then. try to not think 'well, what if they dont help me' it would just be so much easier to ignore if the spasms stopped, i kid you not, i'm about to go on my fourth straight month of spasms. 80 percent of the time its doing it. i go to sleep doing it, wake up, and its still going. anyone would freak out about that, and if you say you wouldnt, ur full of it.

i will also be trying to find a psychiatrist that takes medicaid, if there are any. im sure they could find a way to help me sleep, and reduce anxiety. i'll be fine guys, i just mostly type alot of crap to blow of steam cause bottling it up hurts to much, and talking with my wife about it scares her to much. tks for listening to me.

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Message Number 225017

another question, cortizone shot View Thread
Posted by james e on 3/12/07 at 16:32

if uve read my problem, i have another question. i have recieved 2, or 3 cortizone shots the past 8 years. the first one was actually by the doctor who did the surgery, had to pay him 100 bucks. it helped mildly, this was like 2 years after the injury, and was on the inside of my ankle (not outter where are the major tearing happend)
the next one was 2 years after that, different doctor, and was basically along the scar line where the huggggge tear happend. OMG it hurt so bad for like 2 weeks after, the joint had such sharp, intense pain in it that would make me scream and fall to the ground. i've always had this lumpy soft mass, just below the scar line on the skin, its below the outter knob on the ankle. its a good inch long and real thick and lumpy. the 3rd shot was close to it about 6 months ago, and OMG again. lol the human body can be cruel. that whole side of my ankle has been numb since the injury, but that 3rd one activated intense pain. what does this mean? i wasnt sure where to post this, so i did here. tks again people.

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Message Number 221572

Re: Post-op heel spur resection pain(x4 months) View Thread
Posted by Theresa on 2/04/07 at 20:38

I'd see another doctor for sure. If it's really hard it might be scar tissue. But mine was never was swollen but I have lumpy scar tissue right over the plantar fascia and hard scar tissue beside it. It took 5 months of scar tissue massage to get it reduced to what it is now. I had some of the thickest scar tissue they had seen from a PF release.

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Message Number 220344

Re: Post EPF and scar tissue View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 1/22/07 at 09:55

Does your new doc feel that the scar tissue is indeed the cause of the pain? There are a number of ways to reduce scar tissue: massage, ultrasound, phonoporesis, use of injectable enzymes such as hyaluronidase..

The fascia ofter grows back after surgery but if it grows back with lumpy scar tissue, that need be addressed via one of the above methods.

Best wishes,
Dr. Ed

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Message Number 211029

Re: Stitches left in bottom of foot after surgery View Thread
Posted by judy n on 9/23/06 at 11:46

I was in to see the surgeon in August. He tried to pull them out by freezing the area and could not take them out as they are knotted inside. He told me to keep it tightly wrapped and covered with neosporin and band-aids for two months. When I am in the pool they stick out of the wound and the area where the stitches are is lumpy and sore. I am now thinking that he is going to have to reopen the area and take them out. When I walk I can feel them pulling inside the area and it feels like bugs are under the area..

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Message Number 206375

Re: diagnose of foot/arch pain View Thread
Posted by Amber K on 8/05/06 at 11:19


Your problem seems quite similar to mine. I also have not gotten a proper diagnosis and have arch pain too. My doc told me it had to do with weak muscles of the foot but I think I also have a lot of scar tisssue in the foot. Is yoiur arch area really lumpy when you run your knuckles down the fascia (tendon) in the foot. Maybe you should look into ART or Graston.


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Message Number 204559

need work shoe recommendations - birks replacement? View Thread
Posted by Chloe on 7/18/06 at 13:39

I almost entirely rid my PF by wearing birks over summer and PT treatment. Then I started wearing plain black shoes with a slight heel and my 3/4 orthotics in them and I now have pain where the fascia connects below the big toe. I've never had this before. I dont even have to put weight on it, it hurts all the time and when I press there.

I need to replace my work shoes, I'm also thinking of trying ART or Graston but until I figure out how I'm going to find time, I really need to do something about the shoes. I thought they'd be good, they only have a slight heel and were one of the few shoes that didn't slip off my foot with the orthotic in. Unfortunately I think that slight heel is causing the problem as its placing too much weight on the front of my foot.

I dont like any of the non sandle/flipflop style birkenstocks. They are too clumpy or old fashioned. I'm 27 years old, it may sound vain but I need something at least vaguely trendy.

Are there any other brands out there with the same level of built in support? What does everybody else wear?

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Message Number 202918

Re: Is it hard to do ART in the arch area by the heel??? View Thread
Posted by Amber K on 7/03/06 at 20:51

Thanks Hilary,

Actually the reason I am asking about the arch area because it is lumpy there when I do a deep massage. So I am assuming it needs to broken down.

How much better are you now after getting Grason and ART?


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Message Number 199358

Re: SA, how are you doing? View Thread
Posted by SA on 5/18/06 at 13:11

Hi Amber,
Yes, my facia definitely sticks out when I dorsiflex my foot, but it does about the same on both feet, and only my left hurts. I have noticed that although it sticks out, it's a less "lumpy" so hopefully that's a good sign.

Yes, I think hamstrings and calves can definitely contribute. I've worked on stretching my hamstrings for over a year, so they are a lot better-not ideal, but not really tight either. I've also been stretching my calves, but this chiro told me that if there are "knots" in the muscles (the soleus and gastroc) it really can't let go and stretch well, and I think you're right nerves can get pinched, too.
I don't feel the "knots" myself, but when he presses on these trigger points in my calf it hurts like crazy (for me they are on the inner and outer side of the ankle, and then also in various places along my calf muscle, but I think it depends on the person). I do think it's helping but it will be a slow process.
Does your chiro adjust your ankles, back, and pelvis too? Does he test your muscle strength in various ranges of motion after doing treatments on you? For example, last time after he treated me, I was noticibly less weak when trying to press against his hand with my foot. Have you noticed this with any of your ART or Graston treatments? I'm also going to try acupuncture last week-I think you said this was helpful for you? Good luck!

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Message Number 197963

Re: Calling all recipes View Thread
Posted by Kathy G on 4/24/06 at 13:09

I've cut and pasted one from my cookbook that everyone likes. It's easier than lasagna and tastes just as good. I never make my own sauce as I think Ragu is better!


1 1-lb. Bag Penn-Dutch Noodles, Extra Broad
1 small container ricotta (15 oz)
2 8-oz bags shredded mozzarella cheese
1/3 cup Parmesan cheese, Optional
2 (1 lb. 10 oz) containers Ragu Sauce, any type

Preheat oven to 350 degrees.

Cook the Penn-Dutch noodles as directed. Drain well. Place in large bowl.

Mix the mozzarella cheese and Ricotta cheeses. Mix with hot noodles. Mixture will be clumpy.

Layer pan or casserole generously with sauce. Place a layer of the noodle/cheese mixture on top. Next layer more sauce. Keep on layering (usually only two or three layers) until mixture is used up. Make sure to spoon some extra sauce onto the top.

Bake at 350 for 20 to 30 minutes.

Serve with additional heated sauce.

Yield: 6 generous servings

Note: Leftovers heat up great in microwave.

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Message Number 197464

Re: new diagnosis View Thread
Posted by Shari R on 4/14/06 at 09:42

I assume thats the branch in Oxford, closer to Cinn.
As I said, I was completely surprised with the diagnosis. I'll just list some of the things that go along with FM that I have. My feet, back & hands-arms are my biggest issue though. I counted about 20 drs I've seen in the last 2 years, all with relationship to most of these symptoms. Everyone I'm sure thinks I'm a hypochondriac. I'm exhausted alot.....doing nothing. Though I'm not sleep deprived like most people. Apparentely pain causes the exhaustion. Fibrofog. I've spent the last 3 months getting memory tests done & seeing 3 different worker, psychologist & psychiatrist because of my memory problem. I'm sure I didn't put that on this site as it didn't pertain to feet. Headaches, chest pain....I had a mamogram & 3 months later a ultrasound because of the burning pain above the breast. It was nothing. Morning stiffness & joint pain. Swallowing difficulties, motor tics. Tried contacts last year but couldn't wear them, my eyes were to dry & I could hardly get them in & I had to constantly put drops in. I had leg pains for as many years as I can remember. Restless leg syndrome is one symptom, which I don't have, but motor tics is in the same family of movement disorders.......I see a specialist at Ohio State University for that. I have Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Irritable Bladder. Obviously PF & TTS. I've done everything for that. About 20 Graston Treatments also. I'm done with that now. Weight Gain.......though I do have some thyroid issues & according to the book fibromyalgia has many subsets, and one may cause thyroid problems. I also have alot of foot charlie horses. I suffer depression.......but who doesn't with PF. I've had Panic Attacks but only took Paxil for a while. I didn't like it. So thats the deal. In the forms to fill out you circle any symptoms you have. I never related any of them to FM as I knew little about it other that what my friend went through, which was trigger point pain and lack of sleep. Now I'm reading the book & there it all is. At least I'm not as crazy as I though...and maybe not a hyprochondriac.
I'm curious about the nodules. I have many lumpy spots in various places in my body, but to be honest I thought it was like an accumulation of fat? I have one on my upper leg, arm & butt. They don't spasm though. I suppose theres a support group on line for this also. Thanks for your responses guys & gals. Shari

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Kathy G View Thread
Posted by wendyn on 12/26/05 at 18:55

Wow Kathy - you have an AMAZING memory. School is busy but good. Keeps my mind off work (which I will not get into). If I could figure out how to be a full-time student and still have a decent income, I'd be there!

Kids are all fine - growing up way too fast. The 12 year old is seriously into snow-boarding this year. Our weather the last 10 days has been very warm (about 50 today).

My feet are lumpy (getting lumpier) and about the same. Mostly I try to ignore them.

I think the earliest we may get back to Boston will be summer 2007. I'm going to Miami in February for a business conference. Hubby, 12 year old and I are going to New Zealand in April. A friend of mine is living there until next Chritsmas and we figured this is a great excuse to head to the other side of the world. If things work out, we'll spend 5 days or so In Australia and then about 3 weeks in New Zealand. I am very excited!!!

Boston is a gorgeous city in a beautiful part of the country (even when it is hot or when you are sick!)

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Re: HELLO View Thread
Posted by elvis on 11/24/05 at 07:41

Tom Turkey- You might be able to gobble away today but tommorrow I\'ll still be here and you will be a pile of leftovers alongside some cold gravy and lumpy mashed potatos. Scott -are you having potaTOES for dinner today?

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Message Number 180298

plantar facia & morten's neuroma - walking with pain View Thread
Posted by cathie w on 8/09/05 at 22:43

Ok, I have asked this before and still have no answers. 9 months ago I had a plantar facia release surgery along with the removal of a morton's neuroma on the same foot. Since then it has been one problem after another causing me to have to be in 3 casts (1 was an air cast) for a total of almost 3 months out of the 9 months since my surgery. It seems the fatty pad is now hard and grissly with lumps and bumps and numb in some places and I am walking on the metarsils and the top of my foot hurts also. My toes are beginning to point towards the outside of the foot and shrink up (looking like midgit toes) as well as turn into claws. Also, the arch of my foot seems to be collapsing and my ankle always feels like it is sprained. What is going on? Is it the surgery of the release of the plantar facia that is causing these problems by lowering my arch? Do exercises for the arch really work? I no longer can stand on my tip toes to reach for something. Why do I now have a hard lumpy fatty pad and walk on my metarsils and why does my ankle always feel like it is sprained? Now I walk like an old old lady limping the entire time even with the orthotics in my shoes.

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Message Number 167290

John View Thread
Posted by wendyn on 1/15/05 at 21:07

John, if I was going to fly anywhere right now it would be to the Clinton Library and museum in Little Rock. ;)

You and I could have Tuna sandwiches on the deck and you could show me your all black Mission Impossible outifit. I would meet your cats, and they would want to sit on my lap and lick my face since I'm allergic to them.

Mary and I would talk about you behind your back, and she would tell me all about how you really like doing housework - but you complain so that no one will know.

You and I could compare battle scars - both of us propping our calloused lumpy feet up on the table to compare incisions and pain points.

We'd talk about Scott and the heelspurs board, and all the interesting folks we've "met" over the last 6 years.

I'd bring you a case of real Molson Canadian and we'd drink beer until the wee hours of the morning while we laughed at your accent.

Sound good?

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Message Number 162336

Re: had ESWT/positive result View Thread
Posted by Monika on 10/28/04 at 13:15

Hi Elizabeth. I definitely did NOT feel great at 5 weeks post. At that point, I had some improvement, but not much. I did not start icing again (after exercising) until probably 3 months post eswt. I also take naproxen after a workout if it feels sore. Just that I can work out again is awesome.... I think the biggest thing is that the eswt broke up scar tissue. My foot actually feels different now when I massage it, not firm and "lumpy". I think it gave my body a chance to heal the right way. I really took it easy the first 3 months. I NEVER go barefoot (even in the shower), and I love the birks, but I think it's good to switch shoes every now & then. I just spent hours (I mean hours) painting a room in my house...on my feet for at least 6 hours straight in the birks. My legs are tired, and my feet are tired, but not my heel...weird, huh? Anyway, sorry so long. I just want to encourage you to baby your feet. Only 6 months ago I couldn't even stand outside and watch my kids without needing to sit after 15 minutes! Hope your's goes just as well.

P.S. I am not 100% yet ,but I seem to get better every day!

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Message Number 160826

Re: Best Shoes with Arch Support View Thread
Posted by Richard, C.Ped on 10/01/04 at 10:15

Many shoes have no real arch support. There may be a little lumpy bumpy in there, but it is not good arch support. Dr. Scholl's are nothing but cushion. That is no support at all.

Many people here like the Birkenstock shoes. They have more support than most other shoes.

I would strongly suggest custom orthotics. If that is not an option insurance wise, check out the power step inserts.

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Message Number 157052

Re: Foam box method,ok? View Thread
Posted by Richard, C.Ped on 8/06/04 at 08:15

I am not a fan of those at all. The ones I have seen around here do not put the foot in neutral, and have all these lumpy bumpies incorporated in them that are just not needed. I have had countless presctiptions to either adjust them to fit properly or to discard them and start all over again.

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Message Number 151855

Lump on toe after mole removal,with negative result for melanoma.please answer im so scared View Thread
Posted by Ann Osmond on 6/03/04 at 02:09

Hi,thankyou for allowing me to post,i have a worry about some toe surgery i had 3months ago,but wonder if you could help me.I had a mole removed which was negative for melanoma.However,where my little toe rubs against the toe that had surgery,a lump has appeared and i wonder if it because of the scar and rubbing and nothing sinister,the lump isnt solid but it,its more like callousy,and im scared.lolmy little toe has been rubbing since surgery on the toe adjacent,and my thinking is its just got lumpy cos of that.Please can you help me with this,it definately was not a melanoma on toe,they moved cos i worried about it,having had melanoma 4years ago on my leg(opposite).sorry to bother you,but im totally scared and wont go to Ann.xxxxxx

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Message Number 149964

Re: ART View Thread
Posted by Pamela R. M. S. on 5/03/04 at 18:45

Dr. Davis,

Since you are in the state of Washington, you might want to talk to the practitioner I went to. His name is Dr. James Kurtz, he is a chiropracter (although I don't think that becoming a chiropracter is a pre-requisite), and he practices in Browns Point. You can look up his telephone number on the Active Release web site. He has his several of the ART certifications, including the "lower body" one.

One pre-requisite to practicing ART, though, (especially in the feet!) is to have hands and thumbs of steel - from what I noticed, it must be physically tough on the practitioner!

What lead me to try ART was a long-term case of PF (what else?). This was one of the very last things I tried, by the way. I did go to a podiatrist at the beginning, and was prescribed a pair of orthotics. These were actually necessary and useful, because I already had orthotics, but my old orthotics had a severe case of fallen arches (lol)! I also did the usual stretches; this also helped some. However, these were not sufficient to get me that much better.

Mike Wilmott's personal foot trainers were also very helpful! You should try these - you'll rediscover muscles in your feet that you didn't know you had!

One of the things I had noticed was on the message board, people were talking about massaging their own feet. I took to massaging my own feet, and found in places (especially on the inside edge of the heel), that I had really lumpy tissue. The lumpy tissue corresponded to areas of pain. This was not present on the non-PF foot. I did some "golfball under the heel" massage, and found that it hurt ALOT at first, but then things got better, and the tissue got smoother. I used quite a few techniques on myself to get to as much of the lumpy tissue massaged as possible. I then went to the ART practitioner, explained what I had, and what I had already done. First off, he did state that I was on the right track, and that I had already done alot for myself. He then treated me, and of course, he could reach spots that I couldn't. He could also apply pressure that I couldn't. Yes, it did hurt. However, it definitely helped as well! I credit this with definitely getting me past the plateau that I was on.

I don't know what the current theory is about scar tissue and PF, but I definitely had alot of lumpy scar tissue, and this treatment helped normalize it for me.

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Message Number 147830

Re: question for richard....... View Thread
Posted by Richard, C.Ped on 3/26/04 at 11:47

I did some reading and I came across your foot type. I might have seen that before, but I can not remember.

Most, if not all, athletic shoes I have seen, only have a small lumpy, bumpy thingy (are you amazed at my technical terminology???) is on the insole. That really does nothing. It does have a little cushion, so I agree with you that it is not a good idea to combine the two.

For this very reason is why I do not usually make 3/4 length orthotics. I have worn them myself and know how uncomfortable it is to your toes. Also, to accomodate the forefoot, you do not need the toe area on the orthosis. If any part of the forefoot needs accommodation, the posting will be added to certain areas of the ball of the foot. Example, if there is forefoot varus that needs attention, the posting will go underneath the first met head.

Hope that helps.
BTW: the coffee was good. I need more because I just at a turkey sandwich from Arbys. Man those things are good.

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Message Number 144831

Re: North Face Targa View Thread
Posted by Julie on 2/20/04 at 15:00

Hi Elliott

You are right about updates killing a shoe - updates ruin most things (maybe those six new colours constitute the Targa update: I hope that's all there is to it - I'll have to find out). But you are not right about my arches. They aren't high, and I've never, ever said so. My feet are not quite flat, but almost. And they are wide. I like the Targa because it accommodates my wide feet, and has room in the toebox not just for them, but for my bunions (which make my feet wider at the front, of course) and for my orthotics. I think the shoe does have good support and stability. And it meets Richard's bending and heel count criteria.

In short, it's the ideal shoe - for me. But I've been careful to suggest it only when a poster with similar feet to mine, plus my need for a shoe that can accommodate orthotics, has asked about suitable footgear; and I've said on those occasions that the Targa suits me perfectly, but would not suit people whose requirements are different from mine. I don't want "everyone" to try them. I know they wouldn't suit many, if not most, people. Horses are for courses.

I am also a walker, so I have suggested the Targa on one or two occasions to posters who have asked about a good walking shoe, which it eminently is, having deep tread, a thick sole, and good cushioning.

I've referred in previous posts to "Targas", which seemed fair enough as there are two of them (one for each foot). In deference to Dorothy, whose search my use of the plural confused, I have adopted the singular.

My final word on this threadbare topic is: please don't look for Targa(s) if you have narrow feet. It/they will not fit. And don't look for them if you do not care for the big, clumpy, rather clumsy look in a shoe.

'Night all. :)

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Message Number 143224

Re: Julie -- what was your regime to combat pf? View Thread
Posted by Julie on 1/30/04 at 05:34

Hello Buck

I was lucky: within a week or so of the onset of my PF I keyed 'heel pain' into Google, found this website, and read the heel pain book. At the same time, my osteopath referred me to a podiatrist. I attribute my relatively rapid recovery (six months) largely to the fact that through this help I gained understanding of what I had to deal with, and began dealing with it quickly.

My understanding is that with most cases of plantar fasciitis, the quicker it is diagnosed and dealt with, the better the outlook. When it isn't diagnosed and dealt with, it can become chronic. The difficulty is that many people don't take foot pain seriously: witness the many who walk or run through the pain and seek help only when the pain has become so severe that they can no longer walk or run. These are the cases that can become chronic.

So my experience is of little use to anyone who has gone down that road. However, I can easily tell you what I think helped me.

Rest. I gave up all unnecessary (i.e. recreational) walking and took taxis whenever public transport wasn't available. Apart from that I carried on with my normal life. My PF was painful, but not disabling. I did this until I was better. It wasn't fun, but it seemed necessary.

Orthotics. I was casted for these fairly quickly, and presumably well, because when they arrived they felt 'right', which I know is not everyone's experience, and I have worn them ever since (three and a half years now).

Taping. My podiatrist taped my foot when I first saw him, and it made such a difference I resolved to learn how to do it myself. His complex, tape-intensive wrapping method defeated me, but I learned a much simpler technique from the heel pain book: the 'two-strip' technique. Just two strips of tape connecting the ball of the foot and the heel. I taped every day for the whole of the healing time, and for several months afterwards just in case, and I have no doubt that taping was a key factor in my healing.

Never going barefoot. Although I've always liked going barefoot, I took very seriously the advice not to, because it made perfect sense. Obviously, without support, their is additional strain on the plantar fascia at its insertion point.

Birkenstocks. When I read here at heelspurs that so many people had been helped by them, I dug an ancient pair out of my shoe closet and started wearing them around the house. I now have five pairs of Arizonas - one upstairs, one downstairs, one in my teaching room, one in Crete, and one spare. My feet go into them the moment they leave my bed and I wear them all the time indoors.

Good walking shoes. I do a lot of hill-walking and London pavement walking, and need a shoe with plenty of support, a thick sole and good tread. Because I have wide feet and bunions, and my shoes have to accommodate them plus orthotics, I need a wide, high toebox. North Face Targas, about which I've enthused many times here, are perfect for me (though I know of no-one else who has tried them). I never wear any other shoes - apart from my Birks. Luckily I'm old, and have never paid much attention to shoe fashions, and I am happy in my big, clumpy Targas and my foot-shaped Birks. It must be much harder for women who have always liked to wear shoes with heels and pointy toes!

The yoga foot exercises. I had been practising these and teaching them for many years, and knew they would be helpful, so I just increased my practice of them. I started doing them every morning before getting out of bed, which decreased the first-step pain; and have kept up this habit, which gets circulation and energy going and so is useful even if you don't have PF. I also made sure that the students who have PF took them on board, and when I was sure that they really did help, I posted them here and Scott kindly provided the link to them.

These, as far as I can recall, were the things that helped.

The things that did NOT help were the weight-bearing stretches recommended by most podiatrists, including mine. I obediently did the wall stretch for a few weeks, until I realised it was making matters worse, and stopped. Everyone here knows my take on this exercise and other weight-bearing stuff: however good they may be for runners, and others with healthy feet and legs, they are anathema for people with injured tissues.

I also iced religiously for a while, and I know others swear by it, but it always gave me more pain, so I stopped.

That's about it, Buck. Please bear in mind what I said first: the important thing is rapid diagnosis and treatment, but that is a fairly useless, discouraging bit of information for anyone who has been suffering for years. Also remember that different things help different people: treatment has to be addressed to the cause of the individual case, and the cause has to be determined by full, accurate evaluation by a podiatrist.

And that's the other really important thing: the help of a good podiatrist. I keep saying this because it concerns me greatly that people are so willing to rely upon information they get on the internet. is an excellent website: I've had much help here and have also made valued friends. But although it's useful to know what the experience of others has been, no-one should rely totally on it.

But I hope you've found this interesting, at least!

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Message Number 142776

Re: Captain Kangaroo died... View Thread
Posted by Richard, C.Ped on 1/24/04 at 09:49

I too was one that watched the Captain while eating chicken noodle soup..and even a PB & J every now and then. The radio stations have been playing the theme that bring back memories!!!

BTW: Mr. Green Jeans (Hugh "Lumpy" Brannum) died April 19, 1987.

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Message Number 142605

Re: Two & Three Strip Taping View Thread
Posted by wendyn on 1/21/04 at 23:14

John, all of those pictures are getting pretty old (the one of me sitting at the table is at least 4 years old - the boat one is over 2). I have newer ones, but I have not gotten around to sending them to Scott. Now that I have a digital camera, I keep thinking that I could post a picture of my lumpy feet. But, my feet look like crap - been a long time since I had a pedicure and they look awfully neglected.

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Message Number 139845

Re: Pf and fluid looking swell View Thread
Posted by AndrueC on 12/12/03 at 08:51

I have had that throughout my foot problems. In fact most of the time it was pressure on that swelling or under it that caused me the most problems.

It doesn't feel like fluid - slightly more solid but varies day to day so probably is fluid. If I put my ankle across my knee and point the toes down the swelling becomes somewhat lumpy which suggests to me it's a vein related problem.

Several pods have seen it though and none showed any great interest in it :-/

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Message Number 138898

Symptoms of TTS? View Thread
Posted by Mary G. on 11/28/03 at 18:29

Hello: am beginning to wonder if I've been misdiagnosed for 2 years (NOT tendonitis, plantar fasciitis, tight muscles) because nothing I've tried (extreme measures) has worked. If I have TTS, would the arch of my foot be lumpy and swollen? My pain begins above my ankle bone, inside, and runs thru the bottom of my foot, though ankles are slightly less swollen with orthotics. Bottom of both feet VERY sore, though, and seem to be getting worse. Thanks.

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Message Number 137144

Laughing so hard I'm choking! :) View Thread
Posted by Carole C in NOLA on 11/11/03 at 19:39

Now think about this. You have PF, and you've been wishing for shoes that AREN'T dainty looking? (giggle)

Come take a look in my closet. Perhaps we could start with some lovely men's heavy, clumpy, black leather Time Outs that are a couple of sizes too big for you! The extra thick orthotics add that "special" touch, don't you think?

If they are just too, too delicate and feminine for you, I'm sure we could find something in here you'd just love. :)

Carole C

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Message Number 124924

Re: This is related to John's post about violence View Thread
Posted by Rick R on 7/21/03 at 17:50

Like wow, groovy man when could this hip change have taken place? Oh yea it's the 60's thing. A couple of major factors to try on for size;The baby boom had the numbers, still do, and the money follows. When we were radical kids society became tolerant of radical kids because so much of the population was made up of young people. We also had a sence of betrayal by the "establishment" that sent many off, to what was percieved by a large portion of society, to be an unjust war.

You opened up the can of worms I was hesitant to bring up; the unsupervised children. This in my opinion is the byproduct of a shift in our economy where we decided we needed to have two workers provide the standard of living it used to take one to provide. Now that's an over simplification and overstatement of course, but I believe to a large extent true.

We are still teaching in economics classes that we are on a long term trend toward ever increasing leisure time. This is a load of you know what. The reported weekly hours of workers have declined, and this is the basis of the implied increasing leisure time. This misses out on two major variables. We still live in families for the most part. Going from one bread winner putting in a 56 hour week to two putting in two 45 hour weeks will make the work week statistic look as though we have more time on our hands, on a per worker basis. When I did the analysis in grad school I had the real numbers but I think these are close. Now take that guy that only has to work 45 hours. When he comes home does June Cleaver hand him his cigar and drink? Heck no, she's not home from work yet, so Ward makes dinner, God knows what trouble the Beave's getting into and we haven't seen Wally since he moved in with his girlfriend (or was it Lumpy), well you get the picture. Just because we aren't reporting hours at work, doesn't mean we have real lesiure time on our hands. How about side jobs many of us have to make ends meet?

As a father of two daughters I can tell you that I didn't raise them to be prepared only to be June Cleaver. I am thrilled that they were raised in a time that provides them with opportunities they wouldn't have had even in my generation. I do not intend to state, in this argument the balance in the relative merits of the changes we made in our society resulting from the impetus of the tumultuous 60's.

The other major factor that skews the statistics is the ever increasing proportion of workers in exempt positions. To the best of my knowledge there is no accounting for this in the statistics. I have not researched this topic so this arguement is based on other sources I don't even remember. I guess not all the brain cells made it through the 60's!


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Message Number 122622

Re: Small Fiber Neuropathies View Thread
Posted by wendyn on 6/22/03 at 14:52

Hey Steve..those tests names bring back some memories.

It sounds like my lumpy shins are sending the doctors off to order them again.

Why why why can't I get someone to just look at my whole right leg (from SI joint to big toe) and say - "You have one screwed up leg - no wonder you're having some funny things happen"

I can only get someone to look at a toe, or an ankle, or a knee, or a shin. But never the whole thing. Oh well, the blood tests won't hurt I suppose. But I'm still planning on putting my foot down (so to speak) on the bone scan.

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Message Number 121514

Re: one month post tss surgery View Thread
Posted by JoAnn M on 6/10/03 at 23:49

I had tts & pf surgery 6 weeks ago.I no longer have the same pains that I had before surgery,now I have different ones.Instead of pain at the insertion point site,now I have pain closer to the outside of my foot,where I assume the remaining fascia are.Instead of zingers up my leg,I now have them from ankle to heel,and from ankle to big toe,sometimes on top of my foot as well.I can no longer tolerate ice,it seems to shock my system,makes feel like I have arthritis everywhere.I have a hard lumpy area on my tts scar that,when touched,I feel the sensations in the back of my heel,instead of where it is touched!This area of my heel is also painful when I stand.I have the compression sock,it is a great help for swelling,but I dont have much swelling.If I wear it too long,it seems to aggravate my arch,but my arches are very sensitive(unlike the rest of my foot which is very numb)I have no explanation for being numb and in pain,my husband can't quite understand that one.I can remain on my feet for about an hour or so,can'quite fiure out how I am going back to work in 3 weeks,8 hours on my feet.Sorry I have no better news for you,but we all respond differently.Good luck and my prayers are with you.

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Message Number 115966

Re: Therapist View Thread
Posted by Carole C in NOLA on 4/11/03 at 15:22

Julie's exercises have a better "track record" in that a lot of people here have found them to be helpful. I hadn't heard of them when I first started, which is why I did these others. But from what I can tell, the effect is very similar.

I would definitely suggest that you do gentle stretching until you are "stretched out" and avoid anything that hurts your feet for now. You'll gradually "loosen up" as you persist with the gentle stretching. That might take a few weeks depending on how much gentle stretching you can do.

To me, hurting usually seemed to signify a setback, tearing of the tissues or some such thing. On the other hand, if you rest a lot (like I did) or are immobilized in your camboot, maybe you really need the gentle stretching like I did just so that you don't tighten up even more. You do need to get loosened up, so that simple movement doesn't hurt and harm your feet as easily, or else you'll just continue to re-damage your feet.

I sure hope that ESWT works out for you! I haven't tried it but it does seem to help some people.

My feet are still thanking me for digging through the closet to find my orthotics and wearing them today. My orthotics are fitted to some amazingly ugly clumpy shoes, in which they work best. So, I'm glad I have today off from work as well as the weekend.

Carole C

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Message Number 115962

Re: Therapist View Thread
Posted by Carole C in NOLA on 4/11/03 at 14:32

Bev, I'm so glad you decided to go with what Steve said. Although there are always exceptions to the rule, the towel stretches, stair stretches, and so on seem to nearly always cause big problems among those that talk about stretching here.

I can also attest to the fact that gentle stretching was plenty to be a great help for my PF. If you don't feel like the gentle stretches are enough, then just do them several times a day.

What worked for me were some stretches very similar to Julie's Yoga stretches, that my C.Ped told me about. I came to her with very severe Achilles tendonitis and PF, and she said I was "as tight as a drum". I told her I was afraid to do any stretching at all, so she said to do this.

Before you even start, you should know that if any part of the stretching hurts, I strongly believe you should not do it. Do it more gently so that it doesn't hurt, at first, and work up to it only as it becomes not painful. If even wiggling your toes hurts, don't wiggle as intensely. LOL Ok, here are the stretches.

Sit on a flat surface like your bed, with your legs stretched out in front of you on it. Start with your right foot and point your toes towards your nose, in other words both upwards and inwards. Hold for 30 seconds, and then relax. (You may have to work up to the 30 seconds over a few days). Do the same for the other foot. Repeat a few times.

When you finish, rotate your foot on your ankle a few times gently to relax the muscles (I added this last part myself).

Do these stretches before you get up in the morning, and just before falling asleep at night. Do them at least once or twice more whenever you can. If you are watching TV, time to stretch, and so on.

Take care! I hope your feet feel happy again soon. I'm going to have to start doing these stretches more frequently now that my feet are bothering me again.

I'm wearing my custom orthotics today, and my feet feel lots better. They really do good things for my feet, for some reason. I hadn't worn them for months and months, and they sure felt very lumpy and almost mountainous in the arch for the first few minutes... but then my feet said, "AAAAHHHHH!!!!" and settled right down to the shape of the orthotic.

Carole C

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Message Number 112273

Re: A pain in the toe View Thread
Posted by peter f on 3/08/03 at 15:27

Thats what I have been posting about-it may well be where the facsia inserts into the base of the proximal phalynx-look at the picture of the plantar fascia and see what you think-makes my inserts feel lumpy in that area

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Message Number 101720

I am hurting......Please help if possible. View Thread
Posted by Dotty A. on 12/03/02 at 21:34

I am sorry to bother you....but I am in severe foot pain...14 days ago it was beginning to get hard for me to do my job as my forefoot started hurting, the day after it was even harder and hurting the following day it was impossible for me to finish my job as the pain was to much...2 days after that , on a Sunday I went to an Urgent care place for some kind of treatment as by then the pain was horrible and foot swollen and very red. Painful to the touch, hard to bear weight, toes swollen, foot also...lump around the forefoot. Now I have since been to 2 more docs. and still no satisfactory results..the pain is worse...foot swollen badly into the ankle and slightly very hard to walk and now ankle hurts also. I have been told gout, tendenitous and degenerative arthritis...3 tales, 3 docs, several x-rays later...and I am now on pain meds, vioxx, and a couple of other drugs and am still swollen, hurting, bruised, lumpy and in severe pain....what can I do...I have not worked in 2 weeks. And the pain is not getting any better. I am a patient attendant at a local hosp. Could I have a possible stress fracture of one of the metatarsal bones and they are just now seeing it?
I would be grateful for any answer you could provide...this is getting worse..the entire top of my foot is bruised and shiny from the swelling...
Thank you so very much for any answer.
Dotty aka

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Message Number 97218

Re: breaking in Birkenstocks View Thread
Posted by Carole C in NOLA on 10/10/02 at 09:14

When they stop feeling comfortable, it's probably enough for that day. It sounds like you figured that out already. :)

When they are broken in, you'll know... they stop feeling like rocks and start feeling more like marshmallows. (Do you have those in England? They are soft, puffy white confections made mostly of sugar, and people put them in cocoa, or toast them on a stick over a fire, and so on... if you don't have them then I guess lumpy pillows would be what comes to mind)

Carole C

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Message Number 96537

I bought SUPERFEET insoles today...Thanks, BGCPed! View Thread
Posted by Suzanne D on 9/30/02 at 15:30

Today began our Fall Break from school, and so I made a trip to Louisville where I found that five stores carry Superfeet inserts. None of them were listed on the internet as "custom fit centers", so I just picked one by location. I found them to be a small but nice outdoorwear store with very helpful salespeople. (If anyone reading this is near Louisville and wants the information, I will post the store name.)

I purchased the green inserts, removed the extra insole in my SAS walking shoes, and they fit nicely. My first impression when I stepped on them in the store was that the arch support didn't feel as noticeable as the Birk inserts I am accustomed to. Also the arch seemed to be a little bit further back - nearer the heel area than what I was used to. The salesman said this was a normal reaction but was patient when I asked to try the next size. Of course it was quite a bit too long to place in my shoe (although I know I could trim it to fit.) but I stood on first one size then the next, and then I stood on one foot on my size and the other foot with the bigger size. I could tell no difference at all in the location of the arch; it felt just the same. However, the width was a little wider in the longer inserts, and I felt they didn't fit my heel as well. So I bought the ones that were "my size". I have worn them for 3 hours now, and they do feel "right".

A few minutes ago I changed back to my old inserts and insoles as I thought I had better take it slow breaking them in, but now they feel "lumpy" and hard to me after wearing the Superfeet so I changed back! I guess I'll just put on my Birk sandals in a few minutes to take a break.

I do appreciate your advice, BGCPed, and hope that these continue to feel "right"! I wanted to post to thank you and also let others read of my experience. With a $30.95 price tag, I think they are well worth trying.

Another plus was that the store carried a few Dansko shoes which I had read about here but never seen before. Unfortunately they did not have in stock a 42 or 43. I tried on the 44 which of course fell off my feet, but I just wanted to see what the arch area felt like. I liked the arch support and the "rocker-type motion" when walking. Perhaps someday I'll try a pair of those.

I am also keeping in mind your recommendation of the New Balance walking shoe. For now, I'll wear the Superfeet in my SAS shoes so as not to change everything at once.

Thanks again!
Suzanne :-)

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Message Number 95905

Re: Mephisto View Thread
Posted by Paula S on 9/21/02 at 11:12

Hi Carmen, I just drove through Idaho Falls a couple of weeks ago on my way to Montana. I some Mephisto sandals. Mine have the air-relax footbed. They have a few different footbeds, and this is not their most popular one, but the one I found most supportive for MY feet (I pronate and need lots of arch support). They have a little bit of cushion that is a nice change from the birks on occasion. They don't have the lumpy support that the birks have; it's a smoother footbed, with support along the inside arch (forgot what that's called). They are very well made, nice looking shoes. I think my feet still do better in the Birks for long periods of standing/walking, but for normal days when I feel like a little squish and something different, the Mephistos are good. It's a lot of money to have laid down for shoes I'm luke warm about.

There is a web site,, that sells the different ones and has info about their footbeds. This site does not offer the trial period, though. Good luck on your shoe quest, hope this was helpful. Paula.

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Message Number 93964

Change in symptoms - still PF? View Thread
Posted by Andrue on 8/30/02 at 09:28

Originally I had pain on pressure (when standing, hard to elicit pain just by finger) at the base of my arch in front of the inside of my heel. This pointed to by an arrow in the Heel Pain Book on this site.

That has how improved to the point where I hardly ever feel it as has most of the tenderness in the arch itself.

OTOH what I am now getting is a bruised feeling around the edge of the bottom of my heel (the fat pad not the bone). My right foot actually feels 'lumpy' around the back so that if I sit with my legs straight and my left foot over the right ankle I can feel something 'inside' the back of my heel as I roll my foot around. It's not actually painful just uncomfortable and..well..weird. I thought there was nothing back there to feel - the Achilles Tendon inserts further up the heel bone doesn't it?

Anyway - has anyone any idea what this is? I could almost assume bursitis except that I haven't been walking all that much so why would it suddenly come on? FWIW I also haven't done much stretching because that never seemed to help me anyway.

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Message Number 91327

Re: DR. Z. Are you familiar with ART (Active Release Techniques) View Thread
Posted by Pamela S on 8/01/02 at 18:11

I had ART. I have not had ESWT (and I don't need to - I'm pain free!).
I felt the ART was helpful. However, it is quite painful when administered. I only had a couple of ART treatments because I had been executing hard massage to break up my own PF lumpy tissue, and he did not find too many spots left. I would do it between ESWT treatments. It is quite effective at breaking up the scar tissue.

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Message Number 83851

Re: Long term View Thread
Posted by J. King on 5/14/02 at 14:32

Well, I have the classic PF thing where after rest and upon standing my feet are sore. They get better for a while and then really hurt. Standing and walking long distances are out. One doctor told me TTS and PF and the others say just PF. The pain is from front of heel, but not heel itself, all down my foot to the ball of the foot. When I put weight on my feet I feel sharp pain. The heel cord is lumpy and swollen at times and very tender to the touch. My actual heel feels fine and I don't feel pain when the heel strikes the ground.

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Message Number 77863

Re: cycling tips? View Thread
Posted by Carole C in NOLA on 3/28/02 at 16:43

I'm interested too. I just started resuming cycling on my recumbent bicycle after recovering from PF. Cycling caused my PF, due to some stupid things I was doing while just beginning to cycle for the first time in years. So, I can tell you what NOT to do, as follows.

MISTAKE #1: I was cycling barefoot.

MISTAKE #2: I had the tension turned all the way up.

MISTAKE #3: This was right after September 11th so the more angry I became the faster I cycled.

MISTAKE #4 I had the seat too far back so that my tendons got twanged on each go-around as my knees hyperextended.

MISTAKE #5: I had a "no pain no gain" mentality and was really pushing myself. I was determined to lose more weight and get in shape no matter how much it hurt, even though I had been virtually immobile for a long time with arthritis that was finally being treated.

Right now, I'm trying to resume cycling but I'm correcting these mistakes. I'm wearing my orthotics and the big clumpy shoes they are in, and this set-up is very protective of my feet. I'm also trying to keep everything lined up like it should be, moving correctly. I put the seat further forward so that my tendons are not getting yanked. I set the tension down to the lowest value, and I'm trying to start at a moderate pace for a very short period of time (just couple of minutes twice a day, for now), until I can tell how it's going. Before cycling, I warm up by doing two of my usual gentle stretches and one that's a little less gentle where I pull on my toes with my hands (all of my stretching is done sitting down). Afterwards, I do some more stretching and then walk around the apartment a little bit.

So far, so good! Any hints about foot and tendon safety when cycling are more than welcome. It's been two days since I resumed cycling, and no excess pain. I've been taking extra good care of my feet in all the other ways we know of (stretching, icing, more time with my ugly orthotics, etc) just to play it safe while I begin doing this.

It feels wonderful to get moving again.

Carole C

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Message Number 75944

Re: Spring is Coming! View Thread
Posted by Julie on 3/08/02 at 08:29

Wendy, it IS time you went shoe shopping. Be brave. You need something that covers your feet. Why don't you have a look at my favourites, North Face Targas. They're kind of clumpy, but they look more like shoes than most hiking shoes do, and they feel wonderful (to me) - protective and supportive. They might be ok for an arctic winter (or spring).

Spring came to London yesterday. The daffodils and cherry blossoms have been out for a couple of weeks, but it has been so windy and chilly that it has still felt like winter. But yesterday was beautiful - sunny, breezy, warm, and it SMELLED like Spring, which is one of the ways I judge (the other being the lengthening hours of daylight, which is also happening). So cheer up: it's bound to come to the frozen north fairly soon!

I hope so.

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Message Number 74628

Carmen View Thread
Posted by wendyn on 2/21/02 at 23:31

Some days I am overwhelemed!!!

In addition (like you want to listen to me complain)

I am having nasty pain in the feet - they were hot and red tonight - I tried to take a picture of what that looks like - but I don't know how well the red will show up. If it does, I will post it.

I also have the tendonitis back that I sometimes get along side the front of my shin bones.

It hurts and it makes my legs lumpy. Along with my old lady shoes, the lumps make look like I have old lady legs.


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Message Number 73743

Re: Orthotics- Are they worth it for PT View Thread
Posted by Carole C in NOLA on 2/14/02 at 20:10

I think it would be worth checking them out. Although you can buy Birkenstocks online, if you go to a Birkenstock store they will fit you and hopefully they would get the size right so that the arch is in the right place. Tell the saleslady that you have heelspurs so that she does an extra good job of fitting you. If they can't fit you well enough, you can always get up and walk out! That's why it's worth driving there. Most people like the Birkenstock "Arizona" sandal the best. You can see what they look like at .

I think they are worth the money. The arch on mine is not quite in the right place (I bought them online, instead of getting them fitted). Still, I feel like I am getting my money's worth because I can wear them for a few hours and longer as my feet heal. Last week I even wore them for several days straight without problems. I cannot wear other shoes like Easy Spirits at all, without hurting my feet.

I like them because they are "regular shoes" instead of big clumpy tank-like shoes with custom orthotics in them. I feel prettier and more normal in them. If your feet were worse, I'd say to forget them and go for the custom orthotic. However, it might be worthwhile to go try some Birkenstocks on and see how they feel.

Carole C

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Message Number 71217

Re: Posterior Tibial Tendonitis View Thread
Posted by Jean M on 1/25/02 at 08:52

I did have an MRI in May of last year that showed a significant amount of fluid build up around the tendon. At that time my ortho casted me for three weeks and it did improve. I was working at the time as well. After the cast came off I wore a lace up ankle brace for the next two months and then went to just wearing an otc arch support. I was pretty much pain free until late Ocotber so I went back to wearing the lace up brace. At this time we had two businesses so I was still working every day in the one that we operated year round. I did go back to my local ortho and he felt that it should improve with the lace up brace. So we gave it a few weeks, when that didn't work he casted it for two weeks in November. It did get a little better but I thought he took the cast off too soon. Well after another two weeks it was back again. This time there was some slight swelling and he said that if felt lumpy along the tendon. He suggested I see an ortho who specializes in this type of problem so he referred me to another clinic that may handle this type of problem. I took my MRI and xrays and have to say that we discussed them at length. The new ortho said that by now there could be more degeneration or damage to the tendon since some time has passed. He gave me two options, six weeks in a cast followed by an orthotic or surgery. I chose the cast. It has been almost six weeks now but it doesn't seem to be getting better like it did the first time it was casted. On top of that my other ankle is developing similar symptoms as I mentioned in my first post. We permanantly closed one of our businesses because of this. I need to get things in order before we open our main shop for the season. For me timing is an issue. I just wish I felt better about the progress this time. There is much less improvement with the cast than there was in my past experience. Is there anyone who has had surgery for this? If so was the tendon replaced or repaired? How long was the recovery? Thanks again to anyone who replies.

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Message Number 66915

Re: roller coaster !! View Thread
Posted by Barbara TX on 12/13/01 at 21:52

Okay, its like this. You go down into the dark and you just stay there. People keep telling you that your stop is coming, but they don't know when. You just keep going with no light in sight, and your rear is aching from sitting on the hard lumpy seats. You beging to atrophy and cobwebs grow in your hair. I am the baglady of the PF subway, and I smell like Jade Balm, so know one will sit near me.

Am I depressing anyone? Please stop this train from hell. I want to get off NOW. B.

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Message Number 66904

looking for a foot surgeon View Thread
Posted by Jean M on 12/13/01 at 16:31

I just came from the office of my Ortho. I have posterior tibial tendonitis. I have been working with him on conservative treatment for this off an on over the last year, with the most recent flare up in the last few months. Today as he felt along the tendon he said that it felt lumpy along the tendon. I did have an MRI last May and it only showed a fluid build up on the tendon. Well to get on with this, today he said that he felt I should see a foot surgeon since the tendon may need to be cleaned or possibly replaced if it is to thin? He does not do this type of surgery. He was not sure who to does this in our area as the last surgeon he worked with recently moved, unless, I want to go about three hours away to Milwaukee, and that would be difficult at best. I live about an hour from Green Bay, Wisconsin and was wondering if you knew of anyone in this area that you might reccomend. I will also post this on the other boards to see if anyone has a reccomendation. I have done some reading on this board about this type of tendonitis and a lot of what I have read sounds familiar. In addition, would it be wise to have another MRI at this point? I think I read somewher that they may be inconclusive anyway? Thank you for your help.

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Message Number 66903

Looking for a Foot Surgeon View Thread
Posted by Jean M on 12/13/01 at 16:28

I just came from the office of my Ortho. I have posterior tibial tendonitis. I have been working with him on conservative treatment for this off an on over the last year, with the most recent flare up in the last few months. Today as he felt along the tendon he said that it felt lumpy along the tendon. I did have an MRI last May and it only showed a fluid build up on the tendon. Well to get on with this, today he said that he felt I should see a foot surgeon since the tendon may need to be cleaned or possibly replaced if it is to thin? He does not do this type of surgery. He was not sure who to does this in our area as the last surgeon he worked with recently moved, unless, I want to go about three hours away to Milwaukee, and that would be difficult at best. I live about an hour from Green Bay, Wisconsin and was wondering if you knew of anyone in this area that you might reccomend. I will also post this on the other boards to see if anyone has a reccomendation. I have done some reding on this board abut this type of tendonitis and a lot of what I have read sounds familiar. In addition, would it be wise to have another MRI at this point? I think I read somewher that they may be inconclusive anyway? Thank you for your help.

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Message Number 66635

question about my new orthotics View Thread
Posted by Carole C on 12/10/01 at 16:24

Today I went to the pedorthist, and she made some orthotics. What she did, was pour out some white goo in a tray, and then pushed my foot down in it (there was a layer of plastic or something between the goo and my foot). She had straps on my knee and ankle, probably to make sure it went in straight. Then the tray was spirited off, and later the staff came back with blue inserts that are soft like foam, at least on the side that touches my foot, and custom shaped to my foot. She put the orthotics in a clumpy but very comfy SAS "Time Out" shoe, that cost $134. I haven't removed the orthotics/inserts, so I don't know if they are foam all the way through. The receipt for them says "Orthofeet" and they cost $225.

My question is this: Are these custom orthotics?

I thought custom orthotics would be hard rather than soft, though I have never seen any before. Also, I thought custom orthotics require a break in period, but she said to go ahead and wear them all day at work (at a desk job), and then to wear my Birkenstocks at home.

Whatever these inserts are, they feel SO GOOD, at least for now. They give me a lot of support in my rear arch, and apparently that is just precisely what my feet need. They feel better standing and walking, than they do sitting, because the arch support pushes in on the right spot.

Carole C

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Message Number 46854

Re: returning birks or other footwear View Thread
Posted by Julie on 5/07/01 at 03:19

Good points, Brian. I think people are often unreasonable in their expectations. I'd like to add that anyone considering buying Birkensticks from one of the on-line sites should be fitted properly by a reputable dealer first. Only when you know your correct size, and are sure about the style, should you buy on-line, sight unseen.

Even then, there can be problems: I recently bought a pair of Arizonas from the German website that turned out to be stiff: they're not uncomfortable, and I can wear them, but they feel 'clumpy'. Your advice to Anne to try to soften them by bending them has been helpful this morning! Thanks.

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Message Number 28564

Re: Secrets from my Grandma on Southern eating... Chicken Fried Steak Heaven! View Thread
Posted by Beverly on 9/18/00 at 17:44


Where to find good grits: The best will come from grandma's kitchen, but short of that, I agree with Steve, go for the small Southern diner... NOT a chain... The more off the beaten track, the better.

And yes, cheese is delicious in grits. Grandma's recipe:
slow cooking grits (Cook grits first. Use plenty of water. Don't let it get "gummy.")
Then in a big bowl mix:
PicaPepper or Tabasco hotsauce (just a little dab will do unless you really like it HOT.)
Velveta or grated cheddar cheese (lots of it!)
garlic powder seasoned to taste
Butter (lots of it. This is NOT diet food!)
Grease casserole pan with butter and bake in pan at 325 until golden crispy looking around the edges but be careful not to let it burn.)
Let it sit for about fifteen minutes before you eat it.

Now about chicken fried steak. This is a Texas delicacy. It is heaven on earth if made right. DO NOT eat it for the first time in places like Denny's or I-HOP. Once again, the small Southern diner is the best place. But there are two wonderful chains where you will find all kinds of Southern eating made like Grandma. My favorite is Cracker Barrel. It's all over the South. You can get breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
My second favorite is the Black Eyed Pea.

If you want to make chicken fried steak like a real Southern, here is how you do it.

Get chicken fried steak meat at grocery store. For you Yankees, this is that steak that has been pounded hard and has little crisscross markings in it. I can't remember it's official name. Kim needs to come to rescue here.

Cover steak in a layer of flour; add salt and pepper
Dip steak in egg mixture
Cover steak in layer of flour again
(If you like it extra crispy like I do, repeat this whole process again.)
Heat a big skillet. Put vegetable oil in skillet. Once again, you are NOT on a diet. Be liberal with that grease but don't fill it higher than the steak. The top layer of the steak needs to be "dry" when you begin. Get grease hot before you add the steak.
Cook no higher than medium low... perhaps even lower. It is important not to burn the steak. Yet, you also want it crispy.

Turn the steak over when the bottom layer is cripsy/crunchy. I usually do this part twice. Be very careful not to burn it. This is the hard part. To keep grease from flying everywhere, keep skillet covered. It will also help "seal" in the flavor. Watch out for the grease. It tends to pop. Never leave the kitchen area for even a minute. Watch your steak.

After it is done, remove the steaks and place on a paper towel covered plate. Put another layer of paper towels over the steak. Absorb the grease. Now wrap up the whole thing in several cup towels to hold in the heat while you make the gravy, a CRITICAL part of good Chicken Fried Steak.
Using the same grease that will hopefully have little "crunchies" in it, add some flour slowly, stirring with a fork. Do this on low heat.
The grease is already hot from just having cooked the steak. If not, heat up grease before adding flour. I go by looks and not measurements, but I basically make a flour and grease paste. Then, slowly, very slowly add whole milk (no diet here). Stir often to keep gravy from getting lumpy. If it gets thicker than you like it, add more milk. Keep stirring. Season to taste with salt and pepper.
If all else fails and you come out with lumps, put gravy in blender to get the lumps out.

Serve with: mash potatoes, rolls or corn bread, black eyed peas or hand snapped and bacon cooked green beans.
Gosh, I just made myself very hungry and I am on Weight Watchers!
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Message Number 19924
Re: i found out - to Sherri View Thread
Posted by Nancy M on 5/05/00 at 20:41

Sherri, some symptoms are burning, tingling or just an odd feeling like you have a lumpy wrinkle in your sock on the ball of your foot. Neuroma’s are usually between the 3rd and 4th toes. I’ve had two removed from my left foot, they were between the 3rd and 4th toes the first time and between the 2nd and 3rd toes the second time. The one removed on my right foot was between the 2nd and 3rd toes.

Surgery was not bad at all and was done as an out-patient at a surgery center. Surgery took about 30-45 minutes. Doctor made about a 2 inch incision on the top of my foot removed the neuroma and sewed me back up – about 10-15 stitches. Was in a very attractive blue surgical shoe for two weeks. Stitches came out also in two weeks.

My doctor also told me that they can come back, but I have not had a problem with that yet. My first surgery was done June 1998 and my second surgery, both feet, was done July 1999.

Nancy M in AZ
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Message Number 18691

2nd PF surgery
Posted by Barb T on 4/13/00 at 00:00

Today is 10 days after my 2nd PF full release/spur removal surgery. Unlike last time, the Dr. put a hard cast up to my knee. I don't like this thing at all. It's heavy and the first several days after surgery, I thought the swelling was going to explode it. Well, about the first surgery..... my foot is still hurting (it's been 2 months and 10 days after that sugery) especially my first few steps. Once I'm walking, I'm fine, but not sure how long I could sustain a good walk. I do feel like there is swelling (started taking bromelain 12 days ago) at the spot where the spur was. It is lumpy may be scar tissue. When I mentioned to the surgeon he said he may send me to Rehab(????) Anyway, I'm clomping along in this cast/crutches and still not able to put much weight on that foot. Will see the doc in another week, hopefully to take this cast off. Will keep you posted. Good Luck to every sufferer on this site.Result number: 62

Message Number 11856
Re: Birkenstocks
Posted by Jenny Lewis on 10/20/99 at 00:00

Hi Lauren

The closed Birks I got are: one pair is very very plain, lace-ups, two pairs of holes, black nu-buck. The other pair are closed at the front, but sort of strap things going across, through a T-bar, with a strap to fasten through a buckle. The reason I have rambled through trying to describe them is, I have just looked on the Birks website and there seem to be different styles and some names aren't the same as the ones here. Anyway, the strappy ones on the website are called Madera, those are exactly the same as mine. My lace-ups I'm not sure about, but there is a pair called Medford which looks close. Have a look - - it's nice to browse through. I also have a pair of the blue inserts which are ok in a pre-spur pair of shoes, and some winter boots (which I had only JUST bought before the Big Pain started!)

BUT.... don't forget everyone is different. Some people hate Birks, some love them, I am a fanatic convert (although I still think they look clumpy, but am past caring). The main thing I would suggest is - if you can get to a shop that sells them, try on as many as possible and walk around as long as possible (the Birks shop in London are very understanding about this sort of thing!) because, even though the shaped footbed is the same in all styles, the styles do make a difference.

They are expensive, but I justified it by reminding myself that these are MY FEET, and they have a lot to do, what with keeping me up and pounding the pavements of London and so on. Also, 3 of my 5 pairs so far have been on sale special offer reduced, hooray.

If you are not near a store, I believe their mail-order service is ok for changing shoes you are not happy with.

I also have a pair of Scholls sandals. If you have anywhere near you that sells them, they are worth a look - cheaper than Birks, but also with arch support and all that. I find I can't walk in them for too long, but they are ok for when I do pottery, mostly sitting and just pottering around.

Good luck with your search.
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Message Number 11811

Re: Birkenstocks
Posted by Jenny Lewis on 10/18/99 at 00:00

Hi, big Birks fan here: 2 pairs sandals, 2 pairs closed, one pair waterproof for changing room to swimming pool, one pair inserts. My feet also get very warm in them, and recently, as the weather has cooled somewhat, I have been changing into my sandals when I get to work. One of the shops I went to, I was told that Birks are well insulated, the cork in the footbed does it apparently. The chap said that in winter it is possible to wear the sandals with socks and not have cold feet. I don't much like sandals with socks, so am not about to test that theory just yet!

The amount of walking you can do is very much a personal thing, but don't try to go too far too fast too soon. I have now resigned myself to my fate - clumpy shoes forever - and 8 months ago I could not walk for more than about 10 or 15 minutes, and that was going very slowly. Doing the shopping was a bit of a strain, limping round the supermarket and then having to sit down to recover. It took some adjusting - and has been very frustrating at times, waiting around for buses to go not very far, thinking "I could have been there by now" every 2 seconds. Now I can walk almost normally most of the time, can hardly believe it! And I have had a few days out that would have been impossible 6 months ago. In fact, just this past weekend I was out playing tourist for a day, and was exhausted by the evening, the feet worn out, but the excruciating pain was not there.

I've learned to walk slowly (used to gallop along) and didn't like it at first but had no choice and now I don't mind so much. I try to make use of the "extra" time in thinking! ;-)


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Message Number 11504

Re: Birks!!
Posted by Jenny L on 10/05/99 at 00:00

Hi Denise

I LOVE my Birks, have been wearing them since Feb and even though I still think they are great clumpy ugly things I cannot believe how helpful they have been in getting rid of the footpain. Not 100 per cent rid yet, but I'd say about 90, most days. I also have a pair of Scholls sandals which are very comfortable, softer than the Birks, but not as good for walking much.

The only thing I have not yet tried them with, is snow. But they cope fine with the rain, and recently we in London have had plenty of that, and I just brush them over when they are dry with my personal Nubuck brush, also known as a toothbrush (firm one, works a treat on Nubuck and suede).

If you can't get to a store to try them on it's a bit more tricky. Even though the shaped footbed is always the same, there is a slight difference to how the different styles feel. Having said that, I found that nearly every pair I tried on felt ok, but some were just more comfortable than others. If you are looking for sandals - I personally prefer a strap round the back. I have two pairs of sandals and two pairs of closed shoes, and recently I got a pair of the waterproof sort for when I go swimming. Prices are high, but luckily I have managed to get 3 of these pairs on sales, reduced to a nearly manageable price level! The Scholls were on sale as well.

Also got the rigid blue inserts which work ok with winter boots and some of my "pre-pain" shoes, not all.

When you get round to buying them - remember that they need to be broken in slowly. At first you might think oh no what have I done? but I would recommend wearing them for an hour or so around the house on day one, an hour more the next day, and so on until suddenly without even realising it you are leaping about like a spring lamb.

Sort of.

Good luck!

Jenny in London
where it isn't raining today
but is crispy frosty clear blue sky
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Message Number 10743

Re: Neuroma?
Posted by Nancy M on 9/07/99 at 00:00

This is what the paper I picked up at my foot doctor's office says.

A neuroma, or Morton's neuroma is the inflammation and swelling of the nerve covering. It occurs most often in the ball of the foot, usually involving the third and forth toes, however, it can occur between any of the toes. It is believed that different types of trauma can cause neuromas. Heredity can even play a role. The injury which creates this condition can come from mechanical imbalances such as pronation or even improperly fitting shoes.

Neuromas cause intermittent pain in the ball of the foot. This pain comes in many different forms, including a cramping, tingling sensation that can run up the leg or to the toe. Sometimes it feels numb, or like there is a hot needle between the toes or a lumpy wrinkle on the bottom of the foot. Wearing tight-fitting shoes often aggravates this condition. Rubbing the foot can temporarily relieve the discomfort. Neuroma pain is usually progressive.

It goes on the say treatment includes a series of cortisone shots and orthotics and if that doesn't help, surgery is an option. I myself have had 3 neuroma's removed and EPF surgery on both feet.

Nancy M
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Message Number 10723

Re: You know you have PF when ...
Posted by Jenny Lewis, London UK on 9/07/99 at 00:00

... you walk past all the nice shoe shops without a glance, then pause in front of a window display of clumpy footwear in boring colours and think: "hmmm, those look nice"

... all your friends, who used to complain about how fast you walk, are now way ahead of you

... you go to a wedding (wearing smart clothes and clumpy footwear, of course) and during the ceremony when the vicar asks the congregation to stand - you don't

... you are at the wedding reception and the the jovial groom insists you join the dancing and you debate briefly in your mind whether to burst into tears and run screaming from the hall (run? - chance would be a fine thing), or just smile and sort of bop about awhile, to be polite

... you hold up loads of people on London Underground because going up all those blasted stairs and escalators can be quite useful for some leisurely foot stretching (definitely NOT recommended during rush hour!)

... after a tiring day at work, you wait ages for a bus from the station to home even though it is only a 15 minute walk and the crappy bus service is unreliable

Thank you for starting this thread - I love it. I love the message board, it is great. Scott is definitely one of my heroes. I suspect there may be some who would find it odd that pain and suffering are causing such mirth and hilarity to some of us! Hah, what do they know, those strange beings who walk fast in flip-flops. Look what fun they are missing ;-)


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Message Number 10178

fibromatosis/Dupuytren's contracture/heredity
Posted by joan on 8/25/99 at 00:00

Here's an interesting question: When I first injured my foot, I DO remember that I did have about 4-5 thickened roundish lumps in my heel and the doctor I saw did label the condition plantar fibromatosis. They are now not nearly as pronounced as they once were, and I believe that I have promarily pf as evidenced by all my other symptoms. But here's an interesting fact: my paternal uncle has a full-blown case of Dupuytren's contracture of both hands. It happened to him about 15 years ago. This is a perfectly healthy man in all other respects and his palmar fascia began to thicken and lump up on him to the point where after a few years he had to have the surgical releases (as his fingertips were being pulled into his palm). He is a businessman and does not do manual labor. This condition just comes out of nowhere. Also, one time I felt my paternal grandmother's hand and her fascia was thickened and lumpy, although she had full range and use of her fingers. It was more like she was a "carrier" for it without having full expression of the process. From what I read at the time, men are affected worse than women in general. Anyway, I find it interesting that a link was discussed in the article the doctor sent to you. Perhaps everyone should ask their relatives whether there is any history of Dupuytren's contracture in their families. It would be interesting to know. Result number: 68
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Message Number 8137
birks, weather, rambling....
Posted by Jenny Lewis on 6/25/99 at 00:00

Hi Nicki

Good luck with the new Birks. I bought the closed pairs because my first pair (VERY reduced price Papillio sandals) were too open and I began to feel the January chill. Somehow the idea of clumpy sandals over very thick socks didn't appeal to me...

The weather in London? Well, it varies, to say the least. Glorious when it is good - like today which is early summer weather at its best, warm and sunny and gentle. Winter can be mild or can be freezing cold, dark, miserable, wet and very windy. Actually, summer can be all that too. It changes a lot, even in one day, and is totally unpredictable.

I love it in summer when people arrange open air events, always with a contingency plan for indoors in case of "inclement weather". The British people are nothing of not optimistic - it's the triumph of optimism over experience, not sure who said that, but it certainly applies to planning barbeques etc in this neck of the woods!


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Message Number 8088

ugly, but trendy, birkenstocks
Posted by Jenny Lewis on 6/24/99 at 00:00

Hi Nicki

Good luck with the Birks. I find that they are not as ugly as I used to think, now that I have got used to them. One pair even seems cute, like kids shoes. The comfort and the pain relief are more important. I dress VERY casual anyway, most of my time in jeans, so the shoes look ok. For summer I like long-ish skirts, and they look ok with the sandals. A bit clumpy with the closed shoes though. And it's amazing about them being trendy - here in London nowadays people are wearing them everywhere, all the time! Fashion is funny, huh.

I've never been too keen on exercise, shameful, but I try to swim at least once every week, which I really enjoy, and I have always walked a lot, dammit. Born and bred townie, so walking has tended to be pavement pounding, who knows, maybe that's what caused the spur. I am just trying to accept that the old way of walking is out, going slow and trying to be patient is in, and trying not to overdo it.

My big passion is pottery, and I go to a community workshop once or, if poss, twice a week. If I am doing wheel work, that's sitting, and if I do any other stuff I try to remember to sit - easy to forget believe it or not, because working with clay is so involving and absorbing! Wonderful stuff.


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Message Number 7791

Trendy and chic shoes!!!
Posted by Jenny Lewis on 6/14/99 at 00:00

Hi all - especially recent posters of messages about having to get rid of shoes in order to wear comfortable and pain-relieving clumpy things. I am a converted Birks fan (just breaking in a new pair of sandals, as the weather is warming up) and I had sort of resigned myself to my fate of galumphing around in shoes that deep down inside I really really do NOT like very much.

Anyway, I now discover some truly amazing (and to me amusing) news. Birks are fashionable, yes indeed, they are TRENDY, they are being snapped up by all the young followers of whatever is new latest and at the cutting edge of fashion! They are not funny looking to other people, because they are the "in thing"!!!

I personally don't care at all about fashion, and I wear what I like and what is comfortable, so this news is not as important to me as it would be to some other people. However, the fact that several of my YOUNG and deeply trendy looking colleagues have complimented me on my fashionable footwear, is really screamingly funny to me.

So, all of you who have reservations about wearing weird looking shoes when smartly dressed - reserve no more!!! Tell everyone you know that you are in the latest, uptodatest, fashion statement footwear, and try to feel sorry for all those dreary people out there who are wearing ordinary shoes, high heels, no arch supports, no shaped footbeds, no big straps and buckles - the poor sad creatures!

If not Birks, by the way, big clumpy trainers are also very "smart", specially when worn with floaty delicate fabric full length dresses or skirts.

Must dash, got to do some work, then find some floaty fabric and run up a few trendy little somethings...


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Message Number 6924

Re: Birks hurt me! Please help!
Posted by Jenny Lewis on 5/17/99 at 00:00

Well, here I am again, Birks fan (recently converted!) I've been reading the comments from others who struggled with them. Just thought I would mention - although I now LOVE them to bits and my feet are happy in them, they definitely took a bit of getting used to. I wore my first pair (Pappillion sandal-ish things, great clumpy lumpy things) around the house for a while, an hour or so at a time to begin with. Then I brought them to work with me, and wore them for a while here.

A thought just occurred. Several people have mentioned the style they bought, and some of them are backless (the Birks, not the people ;-)) and I sort of wondered if this is causing a problem. I am not comfortable with the backless ones, MUST have a strap at the back of the sandals, or of course the closed ones have the support. In my case it makes a big difference.

Another thought - the closed ones seem heavy, and very firm, almost rigid all over. BUT, when they are on, and laced up, or buckled, they support my feet beautifully. Fitting is all, and I tried on almost ever pair in the shop before I settled on the ones I bought.

OK, enough Birks raving from me for today. Disclaimer - I don't own shares or have any connection with the company, apart from buying 3 pairs so far and loving them.


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Message Number 6641

Tell me more on the neuroma
Posted by Lisa on 5/08/99 at 00:00

Please tell me more about neuroma's. Does this have any relation to that lump that I feel since surgery -- the lump located kind of in the ball of my foot between the 3rd and 4th toes? It's crunchy, lumpy feeling inside.
Does it go away or did it have to be treated differently? I've been trying to massage it out as has been suggested by others.

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Message Number 6553

Re: location of lump under foot after PF surgery.
Posted by Lisa on 5/06/99 at 00:00

The lump, or bunch of little lumps as it sometimes feels, is under the ball of my foot -- just below my toes and before the arch part of my foot. I still have tenderness and pain in the heel but Dr. said it is from the incision. ???
If I was to lean forward and stand on my toes with my heel off the floor a bit, at the point where my foot is on the floor, that's where the lumpy part is.
Can this scar tissue be worked out -- or is it for life?

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Message Number 5596

Posted by Annette on 3/17/99 at 00:00

No, my feet are not flat, I would say I have an average arch.
What I do have is deterioration of the fat pad on the bottom of my foot both in the heel and metatarsal area. I am walking on bone with no cushion. The blue Birk arch support and the sandals both give excellent foot support but they are very hard and lumpy, with no fat pad they are just torture for me, like walking on lumpy hard concrete, they really hurt !

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Message Number 1196

Re: My formula for best relief in years
Posted by Annette on 8/03/98 at 13:47

What does someone like me do who can't wear the Birkenstock sandals?
I Have tried them twice and they are far too lumpy and hard. they make my pain a thousand times worse and are just torture!

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