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Message Number 261307
Expensive Condo View Thread
Posted by john h on 10/15/09 at 11:58

Did not know individual Communist could afford a condo like this.


39 Conduit Road
The most expensive flat is located in this building in Hong Kong

A wealthy Chinese buyer has snapped up a luxury Hong Kong apartment for $57m (£35m), thought to be a record price.

The five-bedroom home is believed to be Asia's most expensive property - with each sq foot costing $9,200.

The unidentified new owner bought the property in 39 Conduit Road, one of Hong Kong's most exclusive addresses.

The deal came as the territory's chief executive, Donald Tsang, said he was concerned about a possible property bubble emerging.

The apartment, about 6,000 sq feet (557 sq metres), was sold by Henderson Land Development.

It is on the 68th floor of the building and has views over the harbour. The owner has access to facilities including an aroma spa centre, a fitness room and an outdoor yoga gym.

Thomas Lam, from the company, said the building, offered 'a chance to allow the elites in town to enjoy such prestigious property'.

Another unit in the same building was sold for $51 million.

WORLD'S MOST EXPENSIVE HOMES
Fleur de Lys, Beverley Hills, US:
$125 million
Dunnellen Hall, Connecticut, US:
$125 million
Updown Court, Surrey, UK:
$110 million
Tranquility, Nevada, US:
$100 million
Eurasia, Moscow, Russia:
$100 million
Source: Forbes.com

In his annual policy address, Mr Tsang said the government was considering making more land available for development.

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Message Number 258879

Re: Some Like Thomas Sowell and Some Do Not View Thread
Posted by Rick R on 7/15/09 at 17:09

Sounds like me on the basketball court! I never could shoot worth a lick but I could drive the lane and take off at the freethrow line and roll the ball in. Even dunked a few times 30 lbs, 35 years and a couple of surgeries ago. My wife doesn't miss from anywhere around free throw distance; it's not fair!

I remember a TV news program (1970's) showing the Illinois State Police training, demonstrating that the women passed the same criteria as the men. They inadvertantly showed the women doing girly push-ups. Oops.

I'll tell you one thing I'd rather see my 125 lb daughter comming to save my rear than some of the rather well fed representatives of law and order around here. That girl can do men's pushups one arm at a time and used to squat 360 lbs. It should be about meeting valid criteria not gender.

Rick

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Message Number 258877

Re: Some Like Thomas Sowell and Some Do Not View Thread
Posted by Rick R on 7/15/09 at 16:34

Sounds like me on the basketball court! I never could shoot worth a lick but I could drive the lane and take off at the freethrow line and roll the ball in. Even dunked a few times 30 lbs, 35 years and a couple of surgeries ago. My wife doesn't miss from anywhere around free throw distance; it's not fair!

I remember a TV news program (1970's) showing the Illinois State Police training, demonstrating that the women passed the same criteria as the men. They inadvertantly showed the women doing girly push-ups. Oops.

I'll tell you one thing I'd rather see my 125 lb daughter comming to save my rear than some of the rather well fed representatives of law and order around here. That girl can do men's pushups one arm at a time and used to squat 360 lbs. It should be about meeting valid criteria not gender.

Rick

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Message Number 258874

Re: Some Like Thomas Sowell and Some Do Not View Thread
Posted by john h on 7/15/09 at 15:33

Allie: As an Air Force Rescue Helicopter Pilot we were required to be able to go go down on a hoist into double canopy jungle and be able to take an injured man who might often be unconscious and fit him on to a jungle penetrator and then ride back up with him fighting off the jungle canopy as you went. Once you reach the chopper you then have to pull dead body weight from the jungle penetrator into the cabin or drop him 100 feet. Getting a man in such condition on to a jungle penetrator is much more difficult than just getting a man into a cage or gurney type device. We had to practice this over and over using a 200 lb dead weight dummy. We had to do this monthly. When I was shot down it became my turn to be picked up. We carried a Medic and two pilots and all of us had to be able to do this. I was in top condition in those days and it took all I had to be able to do this. There are, I am sure, women who might be able to do this but you have a much better chance of survival if you have a big burly man well trained. Many men could not pass this test. I think that women have been ruled out from being a ground combat Marine or Soldier. Often they have to carry a back pack weighing nearly 100 lbs on forced marches and certainly have to often carry their injured buddies on their backs out of harms way. This is not to say that a woman has no place in the military or could not in some cases do this job. They are currently fighter pilots and have many other dangerous jobs. Job requirements should never be lowered in order to accommodate gender or racial quotas. I doubt we have any female Seals. I delivered hundreds of Special Operations Forces into the rear of enemy lines and they were always men and had to be. The fact is some jobs in life just require a certain amount of strength and there is no getting around it. I sure would not try and get into the ring with a heavy weight boxer as I am physically unqualified. Nothing to be ashamed about it is just a fact of life.

In most countries women cannot serve in the submarine service. Various reasons are given. One being a lack of oxygen for prolonged periods of time which can have adverse effects on bablies. The other is obvious. hundreds of young men with young women using the same facilities. Australia is the only one that comest to mind that may allow this. Nuclear subs can go to sea for six months at a time and most of it is underwater. Space is at a premium on a sub and to build special facilites such as sleeping quarters, etc is not reason enough to go this route. Personally I would not like to go to sea in a sub full of women in a sub and me being the only man.

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Message Number 258872

Re: Some Like Thomas Sowell and Some Do Not View Thread
Posted by marie:) on 7/15/09 at 15:00

I understand what you're saying but all firefighters are required to carry the same amount of weight down the ladder irregardless of gender. If a woman or man cannot do it they don't pass the training. The question was about the possibility of equalizing by changing requirements of size and strength......it's not a fact. So rest at ease whoever reaches your husband will have to be able to carry him down the ladder. :)

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Message Number 258870

Re: Some Like Thomas Sowell and Some Do Not View Thread
Posted by Allie on 7/15/09 at 14:11

Re your reference to women firefighters. I know that the NOW would hate me, but I would much rather have a man carry my husband's 200 plus body down the stairs and out the door, than a woman firefighter to save his life! Not meant to be a cut to women. It's just reality and logical! Likewise, there are things that women are better at than men.

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Message Number 258866

Some Like Thomas Sowell and Some Do Not View Thread
Posted by john h on 7/15/09 at 11:42


Sometimes, when I hear about 'disparities' and 'inequities,' I think of a disparity that applied directly to me-- the disparity in basketball ability between myself and Michael Jordan.

When I was in school, I was so awful in basketball that the class coach wouldn't even let me try out for softball, at which I was actually pretty good.

I was more than forty years old before I ever got the ball through the basket. It wasn't during a game. The basket was in my brother's backyard and I was just shooting-- unopposed-- from practically right under the basket. The only pressure on me was that my little nephew was watching.

After making that one basket, I never took a basketball in my hands again. I retired at my peak.

Think about it: Michael Jordan made millions of dollars because of having a talent that was totally denied to me. Through no fault of my own, I had to spend years studying economics, in order to make a living.

Economics is not nearly as much fun as basketball and doesn't pay nearly as much money either. We are talking inequity big time.

Most discussions of 'disparities' and 'inequities' are a prelude to coming up with some 'solution' that the government can impose, winning politicians some votes in the process. How could the disparity between Michael Jordan and me be solved?

We could change the rules of basketball, in order to try to equalize the outcomes. Michael Jordan could be required to make all his two-point shots from beyond the three-point line, with five players opposing him and no one on his side. A three-point shot could require him to stand under the basket on the opposite side of the court and shoot from there.

Meanwhile, I could make two-point shots from a spot half the distance from the foul line to the basket, and of course without any other players on the court to distract me. Any shots I might make from back at the foul line would count as three-pointers.

Even under these conditions, you would be better off betting your money on Michael Jordan. But, conceivably at least, we might change the rules some more to make the results come out less lopsided, in order to create 'social justice.'

The problem with trying to equalize is that you can usually only equalize downward. If the government were to spend some of its stimulus money trying to raise my basketball ability level to that of Michael Jordan, it would be an even bigger waste of money than most of the other things that Washington does.

So the only way to try to equalize that has any chance at all would be to try to bring Michael Jordan down to my level, whether by drastic rule changes or by making him play with one hand tied behind his back, or whatever.

The problem with this approach, as with many other attempts at equalization, is that it undermines the very activity involved. Basketball would be a much less interesting game if it was played under rules designed to produce equality of outcomes.

Attendance would fall off to the point where neither Michael Jordan nor anyone else could make a living playing the game.

The same principle applies elsewhere. If you are going to try to equalize the chances of women getting jobs as firefighters, for example, then you are going to have to lower the physical requirements of height, weight and upper body strength.

That means that you are going to have more firefighters who are not capable of carrying an unconscious person out of a burning building.

If you are going to have these lower physical requirements be the same for both women and men, that means that you are not only going to have women who are not capable of carrying someone out of a burning building, you are also going to have men who are likewise incapable of carrying someone to safety.

Most activities do not exist for the sake of equality. They exist to serve their own purposes-- and those purposes are undermined, sometimes fatally, when equality becomes the goal.

Nor would a politician encouraging me to feel resentful toward Michael Jordan do any good. If I had such resentments, they would do me more harm than they would do Michael Jordan. They would make me feel bad-- and could make me miss seeing some great basketball.

Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute and author of The Housing Boom and Bust.

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Message Number 258863

The politics of being rich. View Thread
Posted by john h on 7/15/09 at 10:30

I there inherently something wrong with being rich? When we look for scapegoats or want to polarize the people the politicians first like to jump on the rich. Who among us would not like to be rich? It is sort of an American dream to grow up and someday be rich. Certainly many of the rich became rich through inheritance but that is part of democracy. Most became rich by working hard, innovation and not giving up. Bill Gates was not born rich nor was Sam Walton but they became some of the richest people in the world. 'Big' & 'Rich' have become sort of joined

It seems to me that many of the most aggressive people wanting to help the poor are often the very rich. The Kennedy family is a prime example. This is based on not facts just an observation.

Why do people who are not rich quickly jump on board when a politician say 'tax the rich'. This clearly is class warfare promoted by politicians. A strange part of this is that nearly all if not all Senators are rich or will soon be rich. I see nothing wrong what so ever with being rich. It is part of the American Capitalistic system and Democracy. Thomas Jefferson and George Washington became rich. One would have to come to the conclusion that most rich people originally became rich by doing something no one else could do and through hard work. Our nation would not have become the greatest nation on earth without some people becoming rich. The drive to become rich is a force unto itself. We can always point to the robber barons and there will always be greed among both the poor and the rich. Being rich is sure not a bad thing as being poor is not a good thing.

I have never smoked and wish no one smoked but is it fair or is it right to tax cigarettes out of existence and not do the same thing for alcohol? Most people do not smoke so it is easy to get them just like sheep to follow the politicians leads. Politicians know they would be run out of office to place even more taxes on alcohol..

I am not rich yet and it appears I may never make it but I did have my chance which is something most of the people in the world cannot say.

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Message Number 257882

metatarsal pain View Thread
Posted by DavidI on 6/02/09 at 11:46

48 year old male runner. Left foot toe number 3 has been sore on weight bearing for 6 months. Ultrasound shows some degeneration of plantar plates 1 and 2, but there is no pain at all in these areas. Ultrasound of asymptomatic left foot looks worse than symptomatic foot. Ultrasound also shows 2nd interspace neuroma. Mri shows neuroma in 2nd interspace, edema in fat pad beneath 2nd and 3d met heads no evidence of synovitis, bursitis. Tendons appear intact with no excess fluid within sheaths. No stress reaction in bones. No pain in interspace on palpation or Mulder's test. Don't believe it is neuroma. Pain on palpation to varying degrees from proximat met head to proximal end of phalanx. Variety of custom orthotics not nearly as effective as my own invention of hollowing area out beneath 3d metatarsal. Also some persistent tingling in toes 1,2,3 and maybe a little in number 4.

I have seen top guys in New York City. Rock at Hospital for Special surgery, Thomas Novella, John McNerny, Josef Geldwert. Nobody has an answer. I am a marathon runner who has not run since november '08. I am at my wits end. Any body out there have an insight? Please help!

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Message Number 256690

Re: POD & PED recommendation for Milwaukee, WI View Thread
Posted by Dr. DSW on 4/07/09 at 06:42

I can highly recommend Thomas Czarnecki, DPM but he's is Mequon, Wisconsin. I have no idea if that's anywhere near Milwaukee.

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Message Number 255017

be sure to include the last colon (no space) to make it work View Thread
Posted by Susan on 2/11/09 at 22:14

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1:

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Message Number 255016

maybe this link will work View Thread
Posted by Susan on 2/11/09 at 21:50

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1:

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Message Number 255014

national health information database in the economic stimulus bill View Thread
Posted by Susan on 2/11/09 at 21:44

What does everyone think of having a national database with all of our health information including every medical procedure and visit we've ever had and every prescription we've ever been given entered into it, that doctors will be required to use, plus nationally standardized medical care that doctors will be required to go by? This is in the current economic stimulus bill.

This link discusses the database.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)
SEC. 9202. INVESTMENT IN HEALTH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. :

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:2:./temp/~c111uW2AU6:e242691:

This seems like a MAJOR change in health care and it's very interesting that it has been put in an 'economic stimulus' bill. Shouldn't this be discussed on its own and shouldn't there be a lot more publicity and discussion about it before it's passed into law???

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Message Number 254839

Re: implants in both big toes View Thread
Posted by Dr. DSW on 2/06/09 at 14:46

James,
I am a podiatrist/podiatric surgeon. I would recommend a podiatric surgeon that is board certified by the American Board of Podiatric Surgery or an orthopedic surgeon that specializes in ONLY the foot/ankle.

If ultimately an arthrodesis is performed, the original length can be 'regained' or re-estimated via the use of a bone graft. There are different donor sites that can be utilized, including the fibula and hip, but often there are frozen grafts or allografts that may be able to be utilized, that are not sourced from your body.

I have performed my share of arthrodesis procedures with and without grafts, and the success rates for first MTPJ fusions is very high. Naturally, it depends on the health status of the patient, the compliance of the patient post operatively, the skills of the surgeon, the 'stock' of the bone, 'Mother Nature', the integrity of the internal or external fixation utilized and strict adherence to your surgeon's post operative protocol.

However, just as with ANY surgery, there can never be a guarantee that your pain will be eliminated. But since you are having pain due to your limited range of motion, there are probably some degenerative changes and/or scar tissue in the area. Once again, please remember that I have not seen or examined your foot or your x-rays. Once an arthrodesis is performed, ALL motion at the joint is eliminated, therefore the pain is usually eliminated.

Your 30 degree motion will NOT be improved, since an arthrodesis limits ALL motion at the joint, since the joint is fused. In an active patient, the joint is usually fused at a 15-20 degree ankle to allow for a more natural gait, but the joint will not/should not bend.

Your foot will compensate, and orthoses will be highly recommended. Contrary to many misconceptions, you can still remain active following an arthrodesis, with some modifications/adaptations.

I will not provide you with a time regarding how long you will be in cast, post op shoe, etc., or how long it will be before you can wear a sneaker, since every patient heals differently, every surgeon has a different post op protocol, and it is so dependent on the fixation utilized, your body's ability to heal, etc.

Questions to ask the doctor are whether or not you need ANY surgical procedure, or whether there is any conservative treatment that may alleviate your symptoms such as an orthoses or some shoe modifications such as a rocker bottom, etc. An injection in the area, physical therapy, etc., may help.

Your doctor may look at your films and examine your feet and decide on some other procedure. Once AGAIN, I have never examined you or your films, and an arthrodesis may NOT be indicated. Your treatment will all be dependent on your exam, symptoms and findings.

The only doctors I know of in Florida are Thomas Merrill DPM who heads the department of surgery at the Podiatric Medical College at Barry University with I believe is in the Miami area. He is excellent and well trained and very experienced in all phases of foot/ankle surgery. There is also Harold Vogler, DPM, who actually works with an orthopedic group and performs all their foot/ankle surgery, but he is in Sarasota.

Once again, I believe Dr. Thomas Merrill is closest to you and he is associated with the podiatric medical college.

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Message Number 253919

Re: Historical Maps of Palestine-Isreal View Thread
Posted by DR. Z on 1/12/09 at 11:25

Ok

Here is the real peace plan. Finish off hamas. Make Gaza and West Bank similiar to the relationship that the US has with St. Thomas and make the areas grow, proper, live. and then someday if they want to become a state.

When countries prosper there is no need for war

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Message Number 253736

Re: Question for Jeremy View Thread
Posted by dlthomas on 1/05/09 at 20:38

Thanks for the reply and help. Much appreciated.

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Message Number 253653

Question for Jeremy View Thread
Posted by dlthomas on 1/02/09 at 13:21

Jeremy,

A while back you recommended this place in Indianapolis:

Foot One, Inc.
7780 Michigan Rd Ste D
Indianapolis, IN

They appear to have changed their name to:

Foot 1 Mechanix

Is this the same place and do you still recommend them? If not, would you highly recommend or know of anyone in Indianapolis?

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Message Number 253618

Re: Mid-portion Achilles tendinopathy View Thread
Posted by dlthomas on 1/01/09 at 07:37

Dr. Ed,

Do you have an email address where I can send an email with a question for you?

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Message Number 252025

Re: Obama and Nancy Polosi View Thread
Posted by 313 on 11/09/08 at 14:02

I do not know anything about Nancy Pelosi and President-Elect Obama but John I am wondering why you express strong dislike of the NYT? How often do you read it? What columnists do you read? Have you noticed that William Kristol and David Brooks, both conservatives, have regular columns in the paper? Have you read much Thomas Friedman? Do you think he is too liberal? Do you think it is worthwhile to read the opinions of people like Paul Krugman, the Noble Prize winning economist?

You are a smart man so I would think that you read and appreciate many points of view and welcome the opportunity to grapple with complex layers of issues.

A huge part of the 40 year old culture war is an attack on complexity and a reliance on populist symbols. There are two great articles in current papers about this:

from the paper you seem to despise: 'The War On Brains' http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/opinion/09kristof.html?hp

and from the Wall Street Journal: 'The Perils of Populist Chic' http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122610558004810243.html

I think the first step toward the sane and rational political discourse our country desperately needs is the ability to hear and read diverse points of view with respect. You demonstrate that ability here in almost every post.

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Message Number 251983

Re: A question regarding proposition 8 View Thread
Posted by john h on 11/07/08 at 18:46

Rick R: At the time of the Civil War each state had it's own Constitution and I would guess each had something in them about slavery. If that is true, then would we not have needed the 13th Amendment to overrule the state Constitutions? I am not stating facts just posing a question.

In 1791 Thomas Paine wrote 'The Rights of Man'. It so outraged the English that anyone possessing it would be tried for treason. Paine had to move to France or be hanged. It outlined some of the basic rights of all men and was a treasured piece of literature among the poor in England. It was the most important piece of writing in England up unto that day. I think you are suggesting we formalize such a codification for our own country which would formalize some minimum standards for a Supreme Court to follow. They would have less room to make law rather than interpret the Constitution.

When our Representatives gathered to draft our Constitution they fell back on the legal system and what they knew--English Common Law as evolved from the Magna Carta. The Magna Carta of course outlines some basic rights of all people and even the King could not deviate from them. We need an updated Magna Carta for which even a Supreme Court could not deviate. The Supreme Court is today's answer for a King in our legal system. Our laws are constantly evolving and are based on actual legal cases. Some nations have laws that are written in stone. Is one better than the other? There are good cases for both sides.

I have no knowledge of how Islamic Law is written. I would guess it all comes from the Koran and therefore written in stone. They would probably not need a Supreme Court. The Mullahs could be the Judge and Jury and qualifications would be to know the Koran word for word.

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Message Number 251240

Re: Canadian Election View Thread
Posted by john h on 10/16/08 at 13:27

Wendy: Thanks for the history lesson. The one thing I remember about Canadian history is the very hot wife of one of your party leaders. It may have been Mrs Trudeau.

Are the people in Quebec still of a mind to have their own government? We have our own fringe parties here in the U.S. but you do not hear much about them. At one time we had a Communist party and for many years Norman Thomas ran as a Socialist for President. Americans do not appear to take nearly as much interest in Canadian politics as do Canadians in American politics. How many Americans would know the Conservatives won the recent elections in Canada? Maybe a half of one per-cent? Do the Liberals and Conservatives fight on the same level as American Democrats and Republicans? I would guess yes as I spent a lot of time in England where anything goes. I spent some time in Churchill when I was still flying but my only interest was in polar bears.

Any major changes that will effect your life with the Conservatives taking office?

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Message Number 249947

Re: Sarah Palin close to anti-American group? View Thread
Posted by john h on 9/08/08 at 12:48

Marie: All I know about Sarah Palin is she is a dynamite speaker and a Woman. All I know about Obama is he is a dynamite speaker and a Black man.

The truth, and there are many truths out there is people looking for trash will find it and print it.

Candidates of both parties typically promise anything they think will get them elected. I take all of it with a grain of salt. Their hard core supporters are even worse than the candidates in spreading false statements.

Things that appear to be the truth are that Democrats will raise taxes on many people and Republicans will try to lower taxes. Both have their supporters among economist. Democrats have nearly always acted in ways to increase the size of Government. Republicans claim to decrease the size of Government.

We as voters will vote for who ever we think will best serve us personally. For example Union Workers have always supported Democrats for in fact Democrats have enacted policies favorable to Unions. Business for the most part support Republicans as they know and Obama promises to increase their taxes. We all act in our own best interest and not for some 'Change' which both parties now promise. Change? What on earth does that mean? It could mean anything you want it to.

If Obama wins the Democrats will control the House, Senate, and the Presidency. Personally, I do not think that much control is good for America, no matter which party is in power. America is very much spilt down the middle on Democrats and Republicans. Perhaps 1-2% will decide the outcome of this election and many past elections. If the Democrats win and have complete control they must not forget the 49% of Americans that may not agree with the 'change' they come up with.

This should be an interesting race. Just as Obama came from no where when he gave an outstanding speech at a convention a few years ago, Sara Paulin will be a Republican star for years to come by giving an outstanding speech this year. It is interesting how one can rise from obscurity. Neither of these people have any experience most of us would expect in a President. In flying to become the Pilot in Command of a commercial airliner you need to ride in the right seat as Co-Pilot for thousands of hours and many years. The passengers would have it no other way. Yet, we elect Presidents because they look good or are great speakers and these men/women can take you to war or ruin an economy. Based pure experience Hillary has more than the other two put together but she is not the dynamic speaker and wears pants suits all the time. These candidates are not a John Adams or Thomas Jefferson.

Frankly I am not that excited about any of the candidates but will be out there casting my vote for who ever I think will be best for America. Typically, when you get my age you vote for who you think is best for the nation for neither will effect me very much in the long run but will have a large effect on the people under 60 or so.

Things I want to see: (1) An immediate energy policy for the long run and that includes drilling for oil where ever we can find it. We will need oil for at least 20 more years as we have trillions of dollars invested in things that use oil (cars,planes,trains, factories,etc). (2) Increase both nuclear plants and oil refineries (3) Have the smartest people we can find to see what all the alternative energy things will work. Things like solar, wind, geothermal,etc. Some of these may not be able to supply our needs in the final analysis. The things we have the most of are natural gas and coal. It is clear they can and do supply what we need and will play a bigger role in our future energy plan. (3) My conclusion and I am no economist is that raising taxes is a wrong move. Others may disagree. (4) Both Mcain and Obama are not that far apart on Iraq (4) I do not want a English or Canadian type health plan. We have approximately 40 million people uninsured. Many are by choice as they are young and think they do not need it and some are rich and do not need it. The people that want it and need it but cannot afford it should be brought in without totally discarding the system we have. There are surely ways this can be done. I will personally not mind paying more to do this but I do not want Government running Health Care. That would be a disaster. (5) Come up with a plan to save Social Security as we know it. We only have about 20 years to do this. (6) Keep or actually increase the strength of our military. There have always been wars and there is no reason to think we will not continue to have wars. Strength trumps everything and this is the NUMBER ONE responsibility of the President.

Energy and Defense top my wants. May we all get what we want but more than likely will get what we deserve.

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Message Number 248796

Re: Cuboid pain makes orthotics intolerable View Thread
Posted by CLM on 7/31/08 at 13:18

Thomas Novella. He's the top podiatrist in Manhattan. He specializes in treating athletes.

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Message Number 247537

Re: Podiatrist in SF? View Thread
Posted by Janey on 6/10/08 at 01:13

ngnh=nice guy, no help

Yes that's the same pod, Dr. Thomas Chang.

You might try Dr. Subotnick in San Leandro. Check out his web site. He's the doc who turned me on to homeopathic medicine. My favorite orthotics are from him.

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Message Number 247450

A note of skepticism View Thread
Posted by SteveG on 6/07/08 at 11:48

Although I agree that we have made great technical strides, there are two aspects of your post that I am more skeptical about than you are. To cut to the chase, “minds” have two fundamental properties that nothing else has:

Intentionality – this is the “aboutness” of mental states. When I believe that Dr. Z is a podiatrist, my belief is somehow “about” Dr. Z. Computers don’t have that property – they are purely syntactic. It takes a mind to say and understand “this data element refers to Jim’s payroll” “this wooden post in the ground means stop”. This was the point that John Searle made famous in his Chinese room argument

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Room

Consciousness – X is conscious if it “is like something to be an X”, and I don’t think anyone has really an idea how being in brain state C “causes” or “gives rise to” my belief that my wife is mad or the experience of tasting carrots. I am a physicalist in that I think that if a person was, molecule for molecule, in the same brain state you are in now that person what be in the same mental state you are in now. This is, of course, the mind body problem, and I don’t see any widely accepted views out there about how this might work.

In fact, I am inclined to agree with Thomas Nagel that, tempting as it may be to fall back on the familiar kind of reductionist approach which has worked so well in other areas, phenomenal, subjective experience is a special case. Reductive arguments always seek to give an explanation in objective terms, but the essential point about conscious experiences is that they are subjective. The whole idea of an objective account therefore makes no sense - no more sense than asking what my inward experiences are really like, as opposed to how they seem to me. How they seem to me is all there is to them. Any neutral, objective, third-person explanation has to leave out the essence of the experience. The point about conscious experience is that there is something it is like to see x, or hear y, or feel z.

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Message Number 247063

This one makes ya think....... View Thread
Posted by marie:) on 5/23/08 at 21:52

Woman Wakes Up After Family Says Goodbye, Tubes Pulled
http://www.newsnet5.com/health/16363548/detail.html
They rushed her to a West Virginia hospital. Doctors put Thomas on a special machine which induces hypothermia. The treatment involves lowering the body temperature for up to 24 hours before warming a patient up.

After that procedure, her heart stopped again.

'She had no neurological function,' said Dr. Kevin Eggleston.

Her family said goodbye and doctors removed all the tubes.

However, Thomas was kept on a ventilator a little while longer as an organ donor issue was discussed.

Ten minutes later the woman woke up and started talking.

Result number: 26

Message Number 246134

Re: TOPAZ for PF - better link View Thread
Posted by thomas g on 4/21/08 at 10:49

What is Topaz procedure?

Result number: 27

Message Number 244546

McCain causes contract loss for Boeing! Lobbyist involvement??? View Thread
Posted by marie:) on 3/14/08 at 14:39

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mccain-in-trouble-with-conservatives-as-35bn-aircraft-contract-goes-abroad-795745.html
The Arizona senator often speaks of leading an investigation in 2004 that uncovered a bribery scandal that saw Boeing and US Air Force officials go to prison or resign. But his efforts to ensure that the taxpayer gets best value when the US Air Force replaces its fleet of 50-year-old air tankers have come back to haunt him, now that the contract has gone to Airbus rather than Boeing.

The right wing of the Republican Party, already unhappy with Mr McCain as its candidate, blames him for the political fallout from the decision to allow the contract to go overseas. More damaging for Mr McCain is the discovery that members of his campaign team worked as paid lobbyists for Airbus's parent company last year, when it was locked in competition with Boeing for the contract.

Mr McCain's finance chairman, Thomas Loeffler, and Susan Nelson, his finance director, were both lobbyists for Airbus, according to US Senate records. Others, including a former secretary of the navy who is a surrogate for Mr McCain on the campaign trail, also lobbied for the deal.

Result number: 28

Message Number 242285

You know you are a liberal Democrat when.... View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 1/22/08 at 23:00

You know you are a liberal Democrat when...


Liberal Beliefs

* We believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of funding.
* We are against capital punishment but for abortion on demand - in short, we support protecting the guilty and killing the innocent.
* We believe that the same overpaid public school idiot who can't teach 4th graders how to read, is qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
* We believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes and doctors are overpaid.
* We believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons in the hands of the Red Chinese.
* We believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the brilliance of the Sun, and more affected by yuppies driving SUVs.
* We believe that gender roles are artificial but being gay is natural.
* We believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
* We believe that hunters don't care about nature but pasty, visionist activists who've never been outside Seattle do.
* We believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
* We believe there was no art before federal funding.
* We believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars.
* We believe the free market that gives us 500+ channels, can't deliver the quality that PBS does.
* We believe the NRA is bad, because they stand up for certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because they stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.
* We believe that taxes are too low but ATM fees are too high.
* We believe that Harriet Tubman, Cesar Chavez and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee or Thomas Edison.
* We believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.
* We believe second-hand smoke is more dangerous than HIV.
* We believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady and Rosie O'Donnell is brilliant.
* We believe conservatives are racists but that black people couldn't make it without our help.
* We believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge.
* We think that teenager's sexual behavior is uncontrollable, but hardened violent criminals should be released on parole after serving a reduced sentence in a 'correctional' institution.
* We think that 'dumbing down' American's school kids is compassionate but holding them to high educational standards is 'mean spirited'.
* We think people need to be punished for good choices and rewarded for bad ones (i.e., paying women more money for each child they have out of wedlock -- or paying kids $5.75 hr. to go to summer school because they're failing).
* We think that the Constitution is a living document and should be changed but the writings of Karl Marx are 'written in stone'.
* We believe the NRA helps criminals while the ACLU protects the innocent.
* We believe corporate profits are obscene but government spending is too low and the American people are undertaxed.
* We think deficits are caused by tax loopholes.
* We view race riots as justifiable expressions of rage over injustice and fail to see the similarities between a black mob burning a Korean store and a white mob in the Jim Crow era lynching a black man.
* We think guns come to life in the middle of the night and shoot people.
* We think if guns are outlawed, that will be the end of murder.
* We think that the only acceptable hate crime is Christian bashing.
* We are intellectually stimulated listening to Maxine Waters.
* We think Congress isn't doing its job if it isn't passing 4000 new laws every year.
* We think America's Tobacco, Gun & Liquor businesses should be litigated out of business, because that leaves a 'really big' market for foreign-owned businesses.
* We believe 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'
* We believe ends justify means

Result number: 29

Message Number 241725

Re: Hillary View Thread
Posted by john h on 1/08/08 at 19:21

If Huckabee teared up he would be finished. Hillary being a woman will get more of a break than a man. It would be totally unacceptable for a male President to cry on TV. Everyone would question his ability to lead when things really got tough like war. It even sends a message to our enemies. We may not like this but this is the way it is.

Thomas Eagleton of MO. broke down on TV and his carreer was finished.

Result number: 30

Message Number 240654

Re: cheilectomy recovery timetable? View Thread
Posted by Laurie c. on 12/11/07 at 21:48

Dear Eliz,

As a breastfeeding advocate when I was nursing my own two children, I came across Dr. Thomas Hale who is the premier expert on nursing with the use of medications. Here is his message board with relationship to the use of pain meds while nursing: http://66.230.33.248/discus/messages/39/1302.html?1191211093

and here's his contact info:

http://neonatal.ttuhsc.edu/lact/medicationforumspage.html

Maybe you can have your doctor call him.

Result number: 31
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Message Number 238907

Hillary Hillary Lighten Up View Thread
Posted by john h on 11/03/07 at 18:45

WHAT A SWEET LADY!!!

'Where is the G-damn f***ing flag? I want the G-damn f***ing flag up every f***ing morning at f***ing sunrise.'
(From the book 'Inside The White House' by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 - Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day, 1991)

'You sold out, you mother f***er! You sold out!' From the book 'Inside' by Joseph Califano, p. 213 - Hillary yelling at a Democrat lawyer.

'F**k off! It's enough that I have to see you __-kickers every day, I'm not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut.'
(From the book 'American Evita' by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 – Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with 'Good Morning.'

'You f***ing idiot'
(From the book 'Crossfire' p. 84 - Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event.)

'If you want to remain on this detail, get your f***ing__over here and grab those bags!'(From the book 'The First Partner' p. 259 - Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.)

'Get f***ed! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!'
(From the book 'Hillary's Scheme' p. 89 - Hillary's various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.)

'Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!!?'
(From the book 'Unlimited Access', by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 - Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail)

'Where's the miserable c*ck sucker?'
(From the book 'The Truth About Hillary' by Edward Klein, p. 5 - Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer)

'Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!'
(From the book 'Dereliction of Duty' p. 71-72 - Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One.)

'Son of a __.'(From the book 'American Evita' by Christopher Anderson, p. 259 - Hillary's opinion of President George W. Bush when she found out he secretly visited Iraq just days before her highly publicized trip to Iraq )

'What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!' (From the book 'The Survivor' by John Harris, p. 99 - Hillary screaming to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans had been invited to the Clinton White House)

'Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can't f**k her here!!'
(From the book 'Inside The White House' by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 - Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally)

You know, I'm going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in. I'm going to start thinking of her as a human being? - Hillary Clinton
(From the book 'The Case Against Hillary Clinton' by Peggy Noonan, p. 55)

'We just can't trust the American people to make those types of choices.... Government has to make those choices for people'
(From the book 'I've Always Been A Yankee Fan' by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 20 - Hillary to Rep. Dennis Hasert in 1993 discussing her expensive, disastrous taxpayer-funded health care plan)

'I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe' Hillary in 1996' From the book 'I've Always Been A Yankee Fan' by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 76 - Hillary in 1996)

This ill-tempered, violent, foul mouthed, hateful and abusive woman wants to be your president and have total control, as commander-in-chief of our Military, the very Military for which she has shown incredible disdain
throughout her public life. No thanks. The United States can easily do better than this.

Result number: 32

Message Number 237933

Re: Armenian Genocide off the table......Turkey still making threats. View Thread
Posted by marie on 10/17/07 at 14:43

Rick,

The bill was introduced in 2005. It is sponsored by Republicans as well. This was a campaign promise President Bush made to Armenian Americans. I don't have a problem with criticizing Pelosi on timing..........I do have a problem with those who are in denial of one of the world's worst acts of genocide just to play partisan politics. Shame on all of you that participated. Shameful.

Check the bill yourself.....
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.res.00316:

H.RES.316
Title: Calling upon the President to ensure that the foreign policy of the United States reflects appropriate understanding and sensitivity concerning issues related to human rights, ethnic cleansing, and genocide documented in the United States record relating to the Armenian Genocide, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Radanovich, George [CA-19] (introduced 6/14/2005) Cosponsors (159)
Related Bills: H.CON.RES.195, S.RES.320
Latest Major Action: 9/15/2005 House committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Ordered to be Reported by the Yeas and Nays: 40 - 7.

Result number: 33

Message Number 236515

Re: Drew shoes View Thread
Posted by Jeremy L, C Ped on 9/22/07 at 18:06

There are two excellent pedorthic shoe retailers who are not too far away (keep in mind, I live in the mountains of western North Carolina, so my opinion of what is not too far may vary widely from others' beliefs).

Van Dyke & Bacon
5919-B York Rd
Baltimore, MD 21212
Phone: (410)433-1100

Eneslow - The Foot Comfort Center
470 Park Ave S at 32nd St
New York, NY 10016
Phone: (212)477-2300

There are also some podiatry practices where there is either a C Ped on staff or a DPM carrying an additional pedorthic certification. Here are a few:

Active Foot & Ankle Assoc.
10 Franklin Tpke
Waldwick, NJ 07463
Phone: (201)251-0911

John P. Branwell, DPM
863 Kearny Ave
Kearny, NJ 07032
Phone: (201)998-9700

Marlboro Podiatry Center
225 Taylor Mills Rd.
Manalapan, NJ 07726
Phone: (732)780-8787

Thomas E. Pusterl, DPM
245 Main St., Suite 112
Chester, NJ 07930
Phone: (908)879-2818

Samuel Udell, DPM
5635 Westfield Ave
Pennsauken, NJ 08110
Phone: (856)662-8999

Maybe Drs. Wander or Z can share their possible recommendation of the latter, since he's geographically close to them. I also believe there's success for you in this venture. Good luck to you!

Result number: 34

Message Number 236149

bottom of foot View Thread
Posted by thomas. S on 9/15/07 at 12:55

I have been xxperiencing some pain in the back underneath part of my foot?

Result number: 35

Message Number 235077

Re: anyone... someone...this is my big reach out to the people at heelspurs.com View Thread
Posted by Kevin L on 8/28/07 at 17:48

Dr DSW
Below are all the Podiatry providers that take my insurance within 30 miles of my zip 11223 (Brooklyn NY) In alphabetical order…then with detailed info address…etc etc..
A
Abady, Robert, DPM 1
Abeles, Jay, DPM 11
Abrahamson, Hal, DPM 11
Alfieri, Donna M., DPM 1
Alongi, Maryanne, DPM 11
Amante, Gregory, DPM 5
Amato, Richard, DPM 11
Amico, Susan G., DPM 5
Archer, Jean V., DPM 5
Aronica, Frank R., DPM 5
Asaro, Carlo S., DPM 1
Assini, Joseph, DPM 5
Axman, Wayne R., DPM 11
B
Babayev, Emil, DPM 5
Bagner, Jerome E., DPM 11
Baird, William T., DPM 5
Balboa, Henry M., DPM 11
Barbaro, Thomas, DPM 11
Bar-David, Tzvi, DPM 1
Barkoff, Matthew W., DPM 11
Barkoff, Steven L., DPM 5
Barlizo, Sharon R., DPM 1
Barone, Salvatore A., DPM 5
Barragan, Juan C., DPM 1
Bartol, David M., DPM 5
Bass, Elliot L., DPM 5
Bass, Fara D., DPM 5
Bautista, Debbie P., MD 1
Bayerbach, Frank, DPM 1
Becker, Jack S., DPM 11
Bell, Burt L., DPM 5
Bendeth, Marc L., DPM 11
Benzakein, Ralph, DPM 5
Berlin, Kim, DPM 11
Bienenfeld, Jay D., DPM 5
Biller, Bob S., DPM 11
Bilotti, Mary A., DPM 11
Birch, Gregory M., DPM 5
Bover, Elina, DPM 5
Braun, Suzanne G., DPM 5
Breitman, Debra, DPM 11
Breth, Evan G., DPM 5
Bubbers, Linda A., DPM 11
Buenahora, Joseph A., DPM 11
Burzotta, John L., DPM 11
Bushansky, Abe A., DPM 1, 5
Butters, Marva, DPM 5
Butts, Bryon G., DPM 1
Buxbaum, Frederick D., DPM 5
Buzermanis, Steven Z., DPM 5
C
Caimano, Francis X., DPM 11
Campbell, Andrew, DPM 1
Campbell, Douglas E., DPM 5
Caprioli, Russell, DPM 11
Caprioni, Enrico P., DPM 5
Carlton, Lawrence S., DPM 5
Castillo, Dennis E., DPM 5
Catanese, Dominic J., DPM 1
Charlot, Giznola J., DPM 1, 5
Cheng, Tung W., DPM 6
Chernick, Stephen B., DPM 11
Chionis, Anthony, DPM 1
Chopra, Jaideep, DPM 1, 6
Cicio, Gary, DPM 6
Ciment, Avraham Y., DPM 1
Cohen, Greg E., DPM 6
Cohen, Richard B., DPM 6
Cohen, Robert J., DPM 1, 11
D
Dacher, Jeffrey, DPM 6
D'Amato, Theodore A., DPM 6
D'Angelo, Nicholas A., DPM 6
Daniel, Lawrence B., DPM 6
Davies, Daniel A., DPM 11
Davies, Gregory F., DPM 11
De Bello, John A., DPM 1
DeCicco, John J., DPM 11
DeLeon, Jose L., DPM 1
Dellolio, Joseph A., DPM 1
DeMeo, James R., DPM 6
Dennis, Lester N., DPM 6
DeSantos, Pasquale, DPM 6
Dhandari, Angeleta, DPM 1
Dharia, Sumit S., DPM 6
Dixit, Chaitanya V., DPM 6
Donovan, Glenn J., DPM 6
Dorazi, Stephen T., DPM 6
Dubov, Spencer F., DPM 11
E
Edelstein, Michael C., DPM 1
Ehrlich, Josh C., DPM 6
Einhorn, Jill L., DPM 6
Elsinger, Elisabeth C., DPM 1
F
Fagen, Leonard, DPM 6
Falcone, Jeffrey J., DPM 6
Feldman, Gary B., DPM 11
Ficke, Henry, DPM 6
Finkelstein, Barry I., DPM 1
Fiorenza, Dominic, DPM 11
Fox, Corey, DPM 11
Fox, Roberta A., DPM 11
Frankel, Bruce, DPM 1
Freiser, Mark A., DPM 1
Fridman, Robert, DPM 1
Friedlander, Bruce W., DPM 6
Fuchs, David B., DPM 11
G
Ganjian, Afshin, DPM 6
Garcia, Sandra P., DPM 1
Garofalo, Alfred A., DPM 6
Garofalo, Gail F., DPM 11
Gasparini, Mark C., DPM 11
Gaudino, Salvatore C., DPM 2, 6
Geiger, Arthur, DPM 6
George, Thomas, DPM 2, 6, 11
Gertsik, Vladimir V., DPM 6
Gervasio, Joseph, DPM 11
Giammarino, Philip A., DPM 6
Ginsberg, Steven E., DPM 2
Giordano, Richard S., DPM 2
Gitlin, David, DPM 2
Glockenberg, Aaron, DPM 2, 6
Goez, Emilio A., DPM 2, 11
Goldenberg, Perry Z., DPM 2
Goldman, Gershon A., DPM 6
Goldstein, Harold L., DPM 2
Goldstein, Israel, DPM 7
Golub, Cary M., DPM 12
Gonzalez, Ivan, DPM 7
Goodman, Warren J., DPM 7
Gottlieb, Robert J., DPM 12
Gramuglia, Vincent J., DPM 2
Greenbaum, Bruce R., DPM 7
Greenbaum, Mitchell A., DPM 12
Greiff, Lance, DPM 2, 12
Grossman, Myles, DPM 12
Guberman, Ronald M., DPM 7
Gutierrez, David, DPM 2
Gventer, Mark, DPM 7
H
Habib, Henry, DPM 7
Harris, Carl F., DPM 2
Heller, David P., DPM 7
Herbert, Scott E., DPM 12
Herman, Craig P., DPM 2, 7
Hershey, Paul E., DPM 12
Herzberg, Abraham, DPM 12
Hickey, John, DPM 12
Honore, Lesly S., DPM 12
Horl, Lawrence, DPM 12
Horowitz, Mitchell L., DPM 7, 12
I
Iorio, Anthony R., DPM 2
Irwin, Robert A., DPM 12
Isaacson, Ernest, DPM 2
Ivanovs, Ray, DPM 7
J
Jackalone, John A., DPM 12
Jacobs, Louis W., DPM 2
Jarbath, John A., DPM 7, 12
Joshi, Pradip M., DPM 2
Jusma, Francoise D., DPM 7
K
Kaiser, Craig A., DPM 7
Kapadwala, Imtiyaz I., DPM 7
Karpe, David E., DPM 12
Kashefsky, Helene P., DPM 12
Kasminoff, June G., DPM 12
Katz, Alex S., DPM 7
Katzman, Barry, DPM 7
Kessler, Howard N., DPM 12
Kisberg, Stephen, DPM 12
Kitton, Stuart E., DPM 12
Klein, Michael S., DPM 12
Klirsfeld, Jeffrey S., DPM 12
Knobel, Jeffrey, DPM 7
Kohn, Arlene F., DPM 12
Kolberg, John J., DPM 2, 12
Koslow, Paul M., DPM 12
Kumrah, Praveen, DPM 2
L
Lafferty, William A., DPM 7
Lai, Katherine M., DPM 2
Landau, Laurence D., DPM 12
Landy, Robert J., DPM 2, 12
LaRocca, Albert, DPM 12
Larsen, Joseph A., DPM 12
LaSalle, Michael, DPM 2
Lepore, Frank L., DPM 7
Levine, Stanley, DPM 12
Levitsky, David A., DPM 12
Levitz, Steven J., DPM 7
Levy, Brian K., DPM 7
Levy, Denise A., DPM 2
Levy, Paul J., DPM 2
Liswood, Paul J., DPM 7
Livingston, Douglas W., DPM 12
Livingston, Leon B., DPM 13
Livingston, Michael D., DPM 13
Locastro, Robert M., DPM 2
Lok, Jonat, DPM 2
Lopiano, Steven N., DPM 2
Losyev, Sergey, DPM 7
Lucido, Jeffrey V., DPM 7
Lynn, Brian P., DPM 2, 13
M
Mahgerefteh, David, DPM 7, 13
Makower, Bryan L., DPM 7
Mandato, Mark, DPM 7
Mantzoukas, Argirios, DPM 7
Marcelonis, Debra A., DPM 7
Marchese, Nicholas A., DPM 13
Marville, Jillion, MD 3, 7
Masani, Farhan, DPM 13
Matthews, Frederick, DPM 8
McElgun, Terence M., DPM 13
Mckay, Douglas J., DPM 8
Mcshane, William J., DPM 13
Meliso, Vincent D., DPM 8
Meller, Edward P., DPM 8
Meshnick, Joel A., DPM 8, 13
Micallef, Joseph, DPM 8, 13
Moazen, Ali, DPM 13
Mollica, Peter W., DPM 8
Mollica, Raymond J., DPM 8
Montag, Richard M., DPM 13
Montalvo, Luis, DPM 8
Morreale, Edward, DPM 8
N
Nachmann, Dennis S., DPM 3
Naik, Hetal B., DPM 8
Nekritin, Vadim, DPM 8
Nester, Elizabeth M., DPM 13
Nester, Matthew J., DPM 13
Newmark, Alan J., DPM 8
Nezaria, Yehuda, DPM 13
Novofastovsky, Raisa, DPM 8
O
Odinsky, Michael E., DPM 8
Odinsky, Wayne Z., DPM 13
Oliva, Imelda A., DPM 3, 8
Orlando, Anthony, DPM 8
Oropall, Robert, DPM 3
Owusu, Stephen E., DPM 8
P
Pace, George N., DPM 8
Pace, John F., DPM 8
Pannell, Richard, DPM 3
Papa, Philip M., DPM 8
Passik, Arthur L., DPM 8
Pawson, John F., DPM 8
Pecora, Maria, DPM 8
Pedro, Helder F., DPM 8, 13
Perez, Walter H., DPM 8
Peterson, Donald T., DPM 13
Pierre, Nadja M., DPM 8
Pierre, Nedjie, DPM 9
Plotka, Steven D., DPM 3
Posner, Jonathan, DPM 3
Prince, Steven L., DPM 9, 13
Purvin, Jay M., DPM 13
R
Rabiei, Payman, DPM 9
Radler, Bruce L., DPM 9
Rampino, Robert, DPM 3
Ransom, Sherry M., DPM 3
Raskin, Simon, DPM 9
Reifer, Howard J., DPM 9
Richardson, Hugh L., DPM 13
Richman, Tara, DPM 3
Romano, Constance A., DPM 9
Rosen, Alan J., DPM 9
Ross, Charles F., DPM 3
S
Saadvandi, Terence M., DPM 9
Sande, Hervey, DPM 9
Scheiner, David M., DPM 9
Schikman, Lana, DPM 9
Schneidermesser, Susan G., DPM 9
Schulman, Leonard B., DPM 3
Scotti, Lorenzo, DPM 3
Shapiro, Eugene, DPM 9
Shechter, David Z., DPM 9
Shechter, Stuart B., DPM 9
Sherman, Gary, DPM 9
Silberstein, Jeffrey, DPM 9
Silverstein, Alan B., DPM 9
Snyder, Robert S., DPM 3
Spector, Donald, DPM 3
Spellman, Dean S., DPM 3
Spielfogel, William D., DPM 9
Spilken, Terry, DPM 3
Spindler, Harlan, DPM 9
Stanimirov, Catherine, DPM 9
Steiner, Richard M., DPM 3, 9
Stern, Stuart M., DPM 3
Strassman, David, DPM 3
Strassman, Lawrence, DPM 3
Stuto, Joseph C., DPM 9
T
Tabari, Issac, DPM 3
Tajerstein, Alan R., DPM 9
Tanenbaum, Mark, DPM 9
Tartack, Ira, DPM 9
Tavroff, Clifford D., DPM 9
Thompson, Michael, DPM 3
Trepal, Michael J., DPM 9
Trivlis, Maryann Z., DPM 9
U
Unger, Leslie M., DPM 9
V
Vader, Bonnie, DPM 9
Velasco, Debra, DPM 3
Vincetic, Anto, DPM 3
Vitale, Thomas, DPM 3
W
Waiss, Samuel M., DPM 9
Wallach, Jacob B., DPM 9
Walter, Eric G., DPM 3
Wexler, Craig, DPM 3
Winston, Wayne, DPM 4
Wolstein, Lewis, DPM 4
Wolstein, Peter D., DPM 4
Woltman, Robert T., DPM 4, 10
Z
Zonenashvili, Merabi, DPM 10
Zwiebel, Neil S., DPM 10

PODIATRY
Abady, Robert, DPM
181172P
731 White Plains Rd
Bronx, NY 10473
(718) 589-8324
181173P
Burnside Medical Center
165 E Burnside Ave
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 563-0003
St Barnabas Hospital
Alfieri, Donna M., DPM
37006P
4206 Barnes Ave
Bronx, NY 10466
(718) 325-6487
Mount Vernon Hospital, Our
Lady of Mercy Medical Center
Asaro, Carlo S., DPM
37182P
1400 Pelham Pkwy S
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 918-7224
50629P
3424 Kossuth Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 519-3589
Jacobi Medical Center, North
Central Bronx Hospital
Speaks Italian
Bar-David, Tzvi, DPM
36919P
3616 Henry Hudson Pkwy E
Bronx, NY 10463
(718) 548-5757
Columbia-Presbyterian
Medical Center
Speaks HebrewSpanish
Barlizo, Sharon R., DPM
357781P
HHC-Lincoln M&MH Center
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center, Metropolitan
Hospital Center
Speaks FrenchSpanish
Barragan, Juan C., DPM
36954P
St. John's Medical Center
1561 Westchester Ave
Bronx, NY 10472
(718) 328-6200
Speaks Spanish
Bautista, Debbie P., MD
301273P
St. Barn Ambulatory Care
4487 3rd Ave
Bronx, NY 10457
(718) 960-1780
301276P
Union Comm Hlth Ctr
2021 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 960-3933
348297P
CCDC/Burnside Med Ctr
731 White Plains Rd
Bronx, NY 10473
(718) 589-8324
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center, St Barnabas Hospital
Bayerbach, Frank, DPM
216992P
Mercy Community Care
4234 Bronx Blvd
Bronx, NY 10466
(347) 341-4300
39016P
Metropolitan Podiatry Ass
667 E 233rd St
Bronx, NY 10466
(718) 430-6066
M1246P
2371 Arthur Ave
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 364-6199
Brunswick General Hospital,
Brunswick Hospital Center, Inc,
Good Samaritan Hospital,
Good Samaritan Hospital (West
Islip)
Speaks
SpanishGermanItalian
Bushansky, Abe A., DPM
368478P
1715 University Ave
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 960-5616
368491P
1963 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 294-5000
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Interfaith
Medical Center, Parkway
Hospital
Butts, Bryon G., DPM
349336P
421 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10455
(718) 401-3668
The Mount Sinai Hospital of
Queens
Speaks Spanish
Campbell, Andrew, DPM
36957P
St. Barnabas Hospital
4422 3rd Ave
Bronx, NY 10457
(718) 960-9000
56967P
Union Community Health Ct
260 E 188 St
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 220-2020
56970P
St. Barnabas Ambulatory C
4487 3rd Ave
Bronx, NY 10457
(718) 960-1780
56972P
Bronx Park Medical Pavill
2016 Bronxdale Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 863-8695
St Barnabas Hospital
Catanese, Dominic J., DPM
37141P
Orthopedic Surgery Dept.
1695 Eastchester Rd
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 405-8430
Albert Einstein College of
Medicine, Community Hospital
at Dobbs Ferry, Montefiore
Med Ctr (Henry & Lucy Moses
Div), SAINT MARYS
HOSPITAL
Charlot, Giznola J., DPM
357878P
HHC-Jacobi Medical Center
1400 Pelham Pkwy S
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 918-6610
357880P
HHC-North Central Bx Hosp
3424 Kossuth Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 519-2108
Jacobi Medical Center, Kings
County Hospital Center, North
Central Bronx Hospital
Chionis, Anthony, DPM
54771P
1725 Edison Ave
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 892-5542
Parkway Hospital, St John's
Episcopal Hospital - Far
Rockaway
Speaks Greek, Modern
(1453-)
Chopra, Jaideep, DPM
284748P
NY Westchester Square Med
2475 Saint Raymonds Ave
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 792-1100
Staten Island University
Hosp-North, University
Hospital of Brooklyn
Speaks Hindi
Ciment, Avraham Y., DPM
351611P
Soundview Healthcare ntwk
731 White Plains Rd
Bronx, NY 10473
(718) 589-8324
351618P
Diallo Medical Center
1760 Westchester Ave
Bronx, NY 10472
(718) 892-8474
351623P
Jessica Guzman Med Ctr
616 Castle Hill Ave
Bronx, NY 10473
(718) 239-9013
351628P
Burnside Medical Center
165 E Burnside Ave
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 563-0003
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center, St Barnabas Hospital,
Westchester Medical Center
Speaks Hebrew
Cohen, Robert J., DPM
M4190P
140-1 Elgar Pl
Bronx, NY 10475
(718) 671-0400
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center, Parkway Hospital
Speaks French
De Bello, John A., DPM
289396P
New York Foot Care Srvc
3635 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10465
(718) 409-0400
3114603P
New York Foot Care Svc
421 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10455
(718) 365-6363
36995P
New York Foot Care Svc
3201 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10468
(718) 365-6363
Montefiore Med Ctr (Henry &
Lucy Moses Div), Mount Sinai
Hospital of Queens, North
Shore University Hospital, Our
Lady of Mercy Medical Center,
Parkway Hospital
Speaks Spanish
DeLeon, Jose L., DPM
179943P
625 E Fordham Rd
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 933-1900
37252P
2111 Williamsbridge Rd
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 828-6060
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center
Speaks Spanish
Dellolio, Joseph A., DPM
38329P
4362 White Plains Rd
Bronx, NY 10466
(718) 994-7054
Montefiore Med Ctr (Jack D
Weiler Hosp of A Einst), Our
Lady of Mercy Medical Center,
Westchester Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Dhandari, Angeleta, DPM
116473P
North Central Bronx Hosp
3424 Kossuth Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 519-3589
116482P
Jacobi Medical Center
1400 Pelham Pkwy S
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 918-5700
Jacobi Medical Center, North
Central Bronx Hospital
Edelstein, Michael C., DPM
178750P
3224 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 561-0041
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center
Speaks Spanish
Elsinger, Elisabeth C.,
DPM
37257P
MAP-Dept of Ortho Sgy
3400 Bainbridge Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 920-2060
Montefiore Med Ctr (Henry &
Lucy Moses Div)
Speaks German
Finkelstein, Barry I.,
DPM
169233P
3327 Bainbridge Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 881-7990
194335P
NY Podiatry & Foot Surg
2425 Eastchester Rd
Bronx, NY 10469
(718) 881-7990
227755P
Wilson Orthopedics
75 E Gun Hill Rd
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 798-1000
Montefiore Med Ctr (Jack D
Weiler Hosp of A Einst), United
Hospital Medical Center (NY)
Speaks HebrewYiddish
Frankel, Bruce, DPM
200374P
Lincoln Medical & Mental
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center
Freiser, Mark A., DPM
36628P
Bronx Footcare
421 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10455
(718) 292-5045
New York Westchester Square
Medical Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center, St
Barnabas Hospital
Speaks SpanishFrench
Fridman, Robert, DPM
351650P
3616 Henry Hudson Pkwy
Bronx, NY 10463
(718) 548-5757
Columbia-Presbyterian
Medical Center
Garcia, Sandra P., DPM
353857P
Happy Feet
953 Southern Blvd
Bronx, NY 10459
(718) 542-0472
Board Certified
Male Female
Wheelchair Accessible
353859P
Uptown Healthcare Mgmt In
930 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10460
(718) 860-1111
Forest Hills Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Gaudino, Salvatore C.,
DPM
37096P
71 Metropolitan Oval
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 829-6436
Mount Sinai Medical Center,
Parkway Hospital, Queens
Hospital Center
George, Thomas, DPM
197631P
3219 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 792-8115
Hempstead General Hospital
Med Ctr., New York
Westchester Square Medical
Center
Ginsberg, Steven E., DPM
132102P
2391 Arthur Ave
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 365-4141
SVCMC-St Marys Hospital
Brooklyn, St Joseph's Hospital
Division, CMC
Giordano, Richard S.,
DPM
36494P
1217 Castle Hill Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 828-6982
Northern Westchester Hospital
Center, Our Lady of Mercy
Medical Center
Gitlin, David, DPM
379153P
HHC-Lincoln M&MH Center
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Metropolitan Hospital Center
Glockenberg, Aaron,
DPM
201399P
Lincoln Med & Mental Hlth
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
276540P
2445 Arthur Ave
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 733-1999
Kings County Hospital Center,
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center, St
Barnabas Hospital, Union
Hospital of the Bronx (closed)
Speaks PolishHebrew
Goez, Emilio A., DPM
301254P
Union Comm Hlth Ctr
2021 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 960-3933
301255P
St Barn Ambulatory Care
4487 3rd Ave
Bronx, NY 10457
(718) 960-1780
371846P
St. Barnabas Hospital
4422 3rd Ave
Bronx, NY 10457
(718) 960-6105
51028P
Bronx Park Med Pavilion
2016 Bronxdale Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 863-8695
Nassau University Medical
Center, Saint Catharines
General Hospital, St Barnabas
Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Goldenberg, Perry Z.,
DPM
231271P
3250 3rd Ave
Bronx, NY 10456
(718) 328-3668
St Barnabas Hospital
Goldstein, Harold L.,
DPM
187909P
2016 Bronxdale Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 863-8695
37017P
St. Barnabas Hospital
4422 3rd Ave
Bronx, NY 10457
(718) 960-6105
371962P
St Barnabas Ambulatory C
4487 3rd Ave
Bronx, NY 10457
(718) 960-6488
371965P
Union Community Health Ct
2021 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 960-3933
371966P
Union Community Health Ct
260 E 188th St
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 220-2020
St Barnabas Hospital, United
Hospital Medical Center (NY),
White Plains Hospital Center
Speaks SpanishItalian
Gramuglia, Vincent J.,
DPM
216990P
Mercy Community Care
4234 Bronx Blvd
Bronx, NY 10466
(347) 341-4300
49500P
AllMed Medical & Rehab
4377 Bronx Blvd
Bronx, NY 10466
(718) 325-0700
49501P
Metropolitan Podiatry Ass
667 E 233rd St
Bronx, NY 10466
(718) 430-6066
M1576P
3795 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10465
(718) 828-3333
New York Westchester Square
Medical Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center
Speaks SpanishItalian
Greiff, Lance, DPM
354487P
3333 Henry Hudson Pkwy
Bronx, NY 10463
(718) 601-2100
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), New
York Flushing Hospital &
Medical Center, Parkway
Hospital
Gutierrez, David, DPM
M1570P
2100 Bartow Ave
Bronx, NY 10475
(718) 320-0200
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center
Speaks Spanish
Harris, Carl F., DPM
201401P
Lincoln Med & Mental Hlth
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Harlem Hospital Center,
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center
Herman, Craig P., DPM
227774P
Advanced Foot Care
3396 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 409-2121
300046P
Bronx Health Center
975 Westchester Ave
Bronx, NY 10459
(718) 991-9250
New York Westchester Square
Medical Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Iorio, Anthony R., DPM
357778P
HHC-Lincoln M&MH Center
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center, Metropolitan
Hospital Center
Isaacson, Ernest, DPM
341669P
Parkchester Family Foot
1340 Metropolitan Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 863-3338
Beth Israel Medical Center
(Petrie Campus), Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center
Speaks Hebrew
Jacobs, Louis W., DPM
36524P
4240 Hutchinson River Pkwy
E
Bronx, NY 10475
(718) 671-2233
Speaks SpanishHungarian
Joshi, Pradip M., DPM
36975P
1963A Daly Ave
Bronx, NY 10460
(718) 617-6141
39978P
1650 Selwyn Ave
Bronx, NY 10457
(718) 590-1800
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital
Center - Fulton Division, Our
Lady of Mercy Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Kolberg, John J., DPM
351082P
1387 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10452
(718) 992-9918
New Island Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Kumrah, Praveen, DPM
187664P
2015 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 299-7295
214484P
Uptown HealthCare Mgmt
1778 Jerome Ave
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 764-1661
221984P
1807 Randall Ave
Bronx, NY 10473
(718) 617-2468
New York Westchester Square
Me, Our Lady of Mercy
Medical Center
Speaks HindiPunjabi
LaSalle, Michael, DPM
200845P
Lincoln Medical & Mental
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center
Lai, Katherine M., DPM
37068P
Center for Podiatric Care
1500 Astor Ave
Bronx, NY 10469
(718) 882-6881
Beth Israel Medical Center
(Petrie Campus), Mount Sinai
Medical Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center
Landy, Robert J., DPM
37072P
1340 Metropolitan Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 863-3338
Massapequa General Hospital,
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center, Parkway Hospital,
Southside Hospital, Winthrop
University Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Levy, Denise A., DPM
141439P
Hyperbaric Unit
111 E 210th St
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 920-6655
Montefiore Med Ctr (Henry &
Lucy Moses Div)
Speaks Spanish
Levy, Paul J., DPM
169192P
2545 Wallace Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 231-2500
36736P
2539 Fish Ave
Bronx, NY 10469
(718) 231-2500
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Our Lady
of Mercy Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Locastro, Robert M.,
DPM
124212P
731 White Plains Rd
Bronx, NY 10473
(718) 893-7773
Southside Hospital, St
Barnabas Hospital, St
Catherine of Siena, St
Catherine of Sienna Medical
Center
Lok, Jonat, DPM
227010P
East Tremont Medical Ctr
930 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10460
(718) 860-1111
New York Downtown Hospital
(Beekman), Our Lady of Mercy
Medical Center
Lopiano, Steven N., DPM
36777P
3108 Kingsbridge Ave
Bronx, NY 10463
(718) 548-1102
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center
Speaks SpanishItalian
Board Certified
Male Female
Wheelchair Accessible
Lynn, Brian P., DPM
38157P
Ctr for Ortho Specialty
1695 Eastchester Rd
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 405-8430
38159P
MAP - Dept. of Ortho Surg
3400 Bainbridge Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 920-2060
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, Montefiore Med Ctr
(Henry & Lucy Moses Div)
Speaks Spanish
Marville, Jillion, MD
179966P
Morris Heights Hlth Ctr
625 E 137th St
Bronx, NY 10454
(718) 401-6578
49882P
Morris Heights Hlth Cntr
85 W Burnside Ave
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 716-4400
Nachmann, Dennis S.,
DPM
188735P
Urgent Foot Care,PC
3594 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10465
(718) 597-5800
37260P
Urgent Foot Care PC
3058 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 409-0500
37261P
1216 Beach Ave
Bronx, NY 10472
(718) 597-1107
40448P
326 E 204th St
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 655-3410
53065P
1387 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10452
(718) 992-9918
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital
Center - Fulton Division,
Montefiore Med Ctr (Jack D
Weiler Hosp of A Einst), New
York Westchester Square
Medical Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Oliva, Imelda A., DPM
357238P
HHC Morrisania D & T Ctr
1225 Gerard Ave
Bronx, NY 10452
(718) 960-2781
357786P
HHC-Lincoln M&MH Center
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Kings County Hospital Center,
Metropolitan Hospital Center,
Morrisania Hospital
Speaks TagalogSpanish
Oropall, Robert, DPM
142725P
Metropolitan Podiatry Ass
667 E 233rd St
Bronx, NY 10466
(718) 430-6066
18943P
820 Lydig Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 792-5900
New York Westchester Square
Medical Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center
Speaks German
Pannell, Richard, DPM
288046P
HHC-Morrisania D &TC
1225 Gerard Ave
Bronx, NY 10452
(718) 960-2781
Harlem Hospital Center,
Metropolitan Hospital Center
Plotka, Steven D., DPM
200379P
HHC Lincoln Hospital
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center, Mount Sinai
Medical Center, Raritan Bay
Medcal Center, Robert Wood
Johnson University Hosp.
Speaks Spanish
Posner, Jonathan, DPM
105432P
Jonathan Posner, DPM
360 E 193rd St
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 933-2400
105434P
Jonathan Posner, DPM
1621 Eastchester Rd
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 405-8040
143124P
MMG - CHCC
305 E 161st St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-2500
P0052P
2532 Grand Concourse
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 960-1500
Montefiore Med Ctr (Henry &
Lucy Moses Div)
Rampino, Robert, DPM
157922P
North Central Bronx Hosp
3424 Kossuth Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 519-3630
157925P
Jacobi Medical Center
1400 Pelham Pkwy S
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 918-5700
Coney Island Hospital
Ransom, Sherry M., DPM
198963P
Derm & Surgery Associates
3620 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10465
(718) 792-4700
Mount Vernon Hospital
Richman, Tara, DPM
364345P
Tej Podiatric Group P.C.
1963-A Daly Ave
Bronx, NY 10460
(718) 617-6141
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital
Center - Fulton Division
Ross, Charles F., DPM
3113966P
HHC-Lincoln Med & Mntl HC
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center, Metropolitan
Hospital Center
Schulman, Leonard B.,
DPM
36464P
MMC-Family Care Center
3444 Kossuth Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 920-2273
Montefiore Med Ctr (Henry &
Lucy Moses Div)
Scotti, Lorenzo, DPM
36715P
North Central Bronx Hosp
3424 Kossuth Ave
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 519-3589
51545P
Jacobi Medical Center
1400 Pelham Pkwy S
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 918-7224
Coney Island Hospital, Jacobi
Medical Center, North Central
Bronx Hospital
Speaks ItalianSpanish
Snyder, Robert S., DPM
46604P
3867 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10465
(718) 792-8790
Forest Hills Hospital, Parkway
Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Spector, Donald, DPM
36812P
Cambridge Podiatry Center
259 W 231st St
Bronx, NY 10463
(718) 548-3080
St Joseph's Medical
Center-Yonkers
Spellman, Dean S., DPM
381596P
Middletown Podiatry Assoc
1200 Waters Pl
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 863-5511
New York Westchester Square
Medical Center
Spilken, Terry, DPM
200471P
HHC Lincoln Hospital
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center
Steiner, Richard M., DPM
188831P
3530 Henry Hudson Pkwy E
Bronx, NY 10463
(718) 548-3550
379697P
Kingsbridge Community Med
170 W 233rd St
Bronx, NY 10463
(718) 543-0700
SVCMC-St Vincents Manhattan
Stern, Stuart M., DPM
36652P
Morris Park Podiatry
1015 Morris Park Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 863-3737
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital, Syosset Hospital
Strassman, David, DPM
349822P
MMC - Dept of Surgery
111 E 210th St
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 920-6603
Montefiore Med Ctr (Jack D
Weiler Hosp of A Einst), New
York Methodist Hospital, New
York Westchester Square
Medical Center
Strassman, Lawrence,
DPM
358330P
MMC - Eastern Vascular
1825 Eastchester Rd
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 792-8115
Montefiore Med Ctr (Jack D
Weiler Hosp of A Einst), New
York Westchester Square
Medical Center
Tabari, Issac, DPM
208998P
108 E 183rd St
Bronx, NY 10453
(718) 295-4600
Lutheran Medical Center,
Nassau University Medical
Center
Speaks FARSI,
EASTERNPersian
Thompson, Michael, DPM
36705P
2574 Frisby Ave
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 892-8382
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Our Lady
of Mercy Medical Center
Velasco, Debra, DPM
201409P
HHC Lincoln Hospital
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
214314P
Segundo Ruiz Belvis DTC
545 E 142nd St
Bronx, NY 10454
(718) 579-4000
288345P
HHC-Morrisania D &TC
1225 Gerard Ave
Bronx, NY 10452
(718) 960-2781
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center, Metropolitan
Hospital Center
Speaks Spanish
Vincetic, Anto, DPM
231369P
3635 E Tremont Ave
Bronx, NY 10465
(718) 409-0400
Montefiore Med Ctr (Henry &
Lucy Moses Div), Mount
Vernon Hospital
Speaks Croatian
Vitale, Thomas, DPM
201089P
HHC Lincoln Hospital
234 E 149th St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 579-4900
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center
Walter, Eric G., DPM
142727P
Metropolitan Podiatry Ass
667 E 233rd St
Bronx, NY 10466
(718) 430-6066
357174P
1619 Pelham Pkwy N
Bronx, NY 10469
(718) 665-3410
36967P
Bronx Foot Rehab Assoc.
326 E 204th St
Bronx, NY 10467
(718) 655-3410
New York Westchester Square
Medical Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center, SJRH -
St Johns Division, St Barnabas
Hospital
Speaks German
Specialist
Board Certified
Male Female
Wheelchair Accessible
PODIATRY (Continued)
Wexler, Craig, DPM
36647P
2391 Arthur Ave
Bronx, NY 10458
(718) 365-4141
Newton Memorial Hospital,
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center
Winston, Wayne, DPM
359588P
Signature Health Center
220 E 161st St
Bronx, NY 10451
(718) 537-1100
Forest Hills Hospital
Wolstein, Lewis, DPM
42408P
100-1 De Kruif Pl
Bronx, NY 10475
(718) 671-7226
New York Westchester Square
Medical Center, United
Hospital Medical Center (NY),
White Plains Hospital Center
Speaks Spanish
Wolstein, Peter D., DPM
19917P
1340 Metropolitan Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 863-3338
Speaks SpanishTagalog
Woltman, Robert T., DPM
174899P
1488 Metropolitan Ave
Bronx, NY 10462
(718) 823-6239
174900P
Wellness Medical Asso
1180 Morris Park Ave
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 863-8465
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, New York Westchester
Square Me, Peninsula Hospital
Center
Board Certified
Male Female
Wheelchair Accessible
PODIATRY
Amante, Gregory, DPM
199177P
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
Coney Island Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Amico, Susan G., DPM
184838P
SL Quality Care Diagnosti
9708 Seaview Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11236
(718) 444-0520
184843P
SL Quality Care Diagnosti
1902 86th St
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(718) 621-9400
184852P
SL Quality Care Diagnosti
1220 Avenue P
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 376-1004
49812P
9731 4th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 836-1800
SVCMC-St Vincents Staten
Island, Staten Island University
Hosp-North, Victory Memorial
Hospital
Speaks ItalianSpanish
Archer, Jean V., DPM
105663P
Brookdale Family Care Ctr
2554 Linden Blvd
Brooklyn, NY 11208
(718) 240-8600
40532P
Jamaica Hosp Medical Ctr
3080 Atlantic Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11208
(718) 647-0240
Jamaica Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Aronica, Frank R., DPM
36667P
20 Plaza St E
Brooklyn, NY 11238
(718) 638-6387
Catholic Medical Center (NY),
Long Island College Hospital
Speaks SpanishItalian
Assini, Joseph, DPM
36727P
8616 3rd Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 948-3838
Doctors Hosp. of Staten Island,
Lutheran Medical Center,
Staten Island University
Hosp-North, Victory Memorial
Hospital
Speaks Italian
Babayev, Emil, DPM
224479P
Perloff Medical PC
2626 E 14th St
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 368-2626
37241P
Professional Medical Plaz
2269 Ocean Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 339-8200
46696P
421 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11218
(718) 287-4200
Lutheran Medical Center, New
York Methodist Hospital
Speaks Russian
Baird, William T., DPM
37008P
Plaza Foot Care, PC
5412 Kings Plz Mall
Brooklyn, NY 11234
(718) 377-1212
Peninsula Hospital Center
Speaks
SpanishFrenchRussian
Barkoff, Steven L., DPM
36921P
248 Roebling St
Brooklyn, NY 11211
(718) 599-0505
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), New
York Methodist Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Barone, Salvatore A.,
DPM
36884P
1601 Voorhies Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 646-5553
Lutheran Medical Center
Speaks SpanishGerman
Bartol, David M., DPM
139333P
North Star Orthopedics
1408 Ocean Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11230
(718) 338-0909
59239P
North Star Orthopedics
2615 E 16th St
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 745-8787
59240P
North Star Orthopedics
26 Court St
Brooklyn, NY 11242
(718) 935-0311
M6958P
1000 Church Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11218
(718) 826-4000
M6958P
740 64th St
Brooklyn, NY 11220
(718) 439-2000
Parkway Hospital
Bass, Elliot L., DPM
36493P
2381 E 29th St
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 743-1400
49605P
Elliot L Bass, MD
2 W End Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 743-2900
Bass, Fara D., DPM
50123P
2 W End Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 743-1400
M100
2381 E 29th St
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 743-1400
New York Methodist Hospital
Speaks Yiddish
Bell, Burt L., DPM
105602P
7608 20th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(718) 837-8003
113259P
3065 Brighton 5Th St
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 332-2722
New York Community Hospital
of Brooklyn
Benzakein, Ralph, DPM
36761P
2241 Ocean Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 998-1375
New York Community Hospital
of Brooklyn
Speaks
ArabicHebrewRussianSpani
sh
Bienenfeld, Jay D., DPM
47072P
165 Taylor St
Brooklyn, NY 11211
(718) 599-0753
Peninsula Hospital Center
Speaks
SpanishHebrewYiddish
Birch, Gregory M., DPM
36595P
6419 Bay Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11204
(718) 232-6737
Staten Island University
Hosp-North
Bover, Elina, DPM
353725P
A. Amerimed Physician P.C
1655 E 13th St
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 339-3100
353726P
A. Amerimed Physician P.C
1100 Coney Island Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11230
(718) 434-7533
New York Methodist Hospital
Speaks AbkhazianAfam
(Oromo)
Braun, Suzanne G., DPM
142989P
2171 Nostrand Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11210
(718) 758-8920
359508P
710 Parkside Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11226
(718) 270-2075
University Hospital of Brooklyn
Speaks SpanishItalian
Breth, Evan G., DPM
49200P
Evan G. Breth, DPM
2352 Ralph Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11234
(718) 251-0200
M1550P
263 7th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11215
(718) 369-8080
M1551P
United Medical Assoc
9001 3rd Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 748-2900
M1552P
7124 18th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11204
(718) 234-3333
Lutheran Medical Center, New
York Methodist Hospital
Bushansky, Abe A., DPM
231380P
734 Pennsylvania Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11207
(718) 493-5986
37057P
711 Eastern Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11213
(718) 493-5986
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Interfaith
Medical Center, Parkway
Hospital
Butters, Marva, DPM
343047P
158 Clarkson Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11226
(718) 783-4780
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Kings
County Hospital Center
Buxbaum, Frederick D.,
DPM
36540P
1501 W 6th St
Brooklyn, NY 11204
(718) 837-0442
New York Community Hospital
of Brooklyn, New York
Methodist Hospital, Parkway
Hospital
Buzermanis, Steven Z.,
DPM
57282P
1230 Neptune Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11224
(718) 615-3200
57282P
3245 Nostrand Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 615-3777
57282P
345 Schermerhorn St
Brooklyn, NY 11217
(718) 858-6300
Campbell, Douglas E.,
DPM
37122P
MAIMONDES MED CTR
BROOKLYN, NY 11219
(718) 283-7593
54942P
4801 Fort Hamilton Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11219
(718) 853-7469
54944P
241 Willoughby St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 853-7469
Maimonides Medical Center
Caprioni, Enrico P., DPM
163554P
326 7th St
Brooklyn, NY 11215
(718) 369-7192
New York Methodist Hospital
Speaks ItalianSpanish
Carlton, Lawrence S.,
DPM
36731P
1981 Flatbush Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11234
(718) 338-8715
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus)
Castillo, Dennis E., DPM
0X190P
345 Clinton Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11238
(718) 783-7300
105747P
450 Clarkson Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 783-7300
376722P
SUNY Downstate Med Ctr
840 Lefferts Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 783-7300
376724P
SUNY Downstate Med Ctr
445 Lenox Rd
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 783-7300
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Interfaith
Medical Center, Kingsbrook
Jewish Medical Center,
University Hospital of Brooklyn
Speaks Spanish
Board Certified
Male Female
Wheelchair Accessible
)
Charlot, Giznola J., DPM
358034P
HHC-Kings County Hospital
451 Clarkson Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 245-3325
Jacobi Medical Center, Kings
County Hospital Center, North
Central Bronx Hospital
Cheng, Tung W., DPM
36670P
299 Livingston St
Brooklyn, NY 11217
(718) 624-2150
Speaks Chinese
Chopra, Jaideep, DPM
283717P
Medical Office
462 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11218
(718) 856-6010
284749P
1324 Bergen St
Brooklyn, NY 11213
(718) 774-5224
362592P
710 Parkside Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11226
(718) 270-2045
363451P
University Phys of Bklyn
450 Clarkson Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 270-2045
Staten Island University
Hosp-North, University
Hospital of Brooklyn
Speaks Hindi
Cicio, Gary, DPM
36673P
142 Joralemon St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 624-3003
Beth Israel Med Ctr (Kings
Hwy Division), Long Island
College Hospital, New York
Downtown Hospital (Beekman)
Cohen, Greg E., DPM
168309P
142 Joralemon St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 624-3003
Cabrini Medical Center, Long
Island College Hospital
Cohen, Richard B., DPM
36732P
1331 E 16th St
Brooklyn, NY 11230
(718) 375-3400
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus)
D'Amato, Theodore A.,
DPM
369717P
9731 4th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 745-3177
Staten Island University
Hosp-North, Victory Memorial
Hospital
D'Angelo, Nicholas A.,
DPM
M1613P
6511 20th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11204
(718) 837-7300
New York Methodist Hospital
Speaks Italian
Dacher, Jeffrey, DPM
36847P
3901 Nostrand Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 648-9104
Woodhull Medical & Mental
Health Ctr
Speaks Yiddish
Daniel, Lawrence B.,
DPM
10292P
2832 Linden Blvd
Brooklyn, NY 11208
(718) 240-2000
58558P
Lawrence B. Daniel, DPM
1576 E 66th St
Brooklyn, NY 11234
(718) 241-3803
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus),
Montefiore Med Ctr (Henry &
Lucy Moses Div), Montefiore
Med Ctr (Jack D Weiler Hosp
of A Einst)
DeMeo, James R., DPM
169482P
1545 Atlantic Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11213
(718) 613-4856
Cabrini Medical Center,
Interfaith Medical Center,
Mount Vernon Hospital, SJRH -
St Johns Division
DeSantos, Pasquale, DPM
371165P
HHC-Coney Island Hospital
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
Coney Island Hospital
Speaks ItalianSpanish
Dennis, Lester N., DPM
50225P
746 Manhattan Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11222
(718) 389-4404
Catholic Medical Center (NY),
New York Flushing Hospital &
Medical Center, New York
Hospital Medical Center of
Queens, St Joseph's Hospital
Division, CMC, United
Hospital Medical Center (NY),
Wyckoff Heights Medical
Center
Dharia, Sumit S., DPM
349314P
552 Saint Marks Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11238
(516) 359-3339
Speaks Gujarati
Dixit, Chaitanya V., DPM
229092P
NY Medical Associates
98 Avenue U
Brooklyn, NY 11223
(718) 372-0500
39505P
1700 Flatbush Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11210
(718) 692-1120
M1245P
2235 W 9th St
Brooklyn, NY 11223
(718) 372-0400
Jamaica Hospital, New York
Methodist Hospital, Our Lady
of Mercy Medical Center
Speaks SpanishHindiItalian
Donovan, Glenn J., DPM
348058P
HHC-Coney Island Hospital
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
Coney Island Hospital
Dorazi, Stephen T., DPM
144643P
374 Stockholm St
Brooklyn, NY 11237
(718) 963-7233
Franklin Hospital, New York
Hospital Medical Center of
Queens, New York United
Hospital Medic, Sound Shore
Medical Center of Westchester,
Wyckoff Heights Medical
Center
Speaks Spanish
Ehrlich, Josh C., DPM
341691P
Astrocare Medical Center
1669 Bedford Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11225
(718) 467-7200
36823P
1651 Coney Island Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11230
(718) 382-2221
49886P
1535 51st St
Brooklyn, NY 11219
(718) 436-8886
Maimonides Medical Center,
Staten Island University
Hosp-North
Speaks
HebrewYiddishRussian
Einhorn, Jill L., DPM
36976P
2616 Avenue U
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 891-2706
Beth Israel Med Ctr (Kings
Hwy Division), Maimonides
Medical Center
Fagen, Leonard, DPM
36474P
1390 Pennsylvania Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11239
(718) 642-2088
Brookdale Hospital Medical
Center
Speaks Spanish
Falcone, Jeffrey J., DPM
168454P
8012 3rd Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 745-5600
New York Methodist Hospital
Ficke, Henry, DPM
177873P
2875 W 8th St
Brooklyn, NY 11224
(718) 266-3131
288626P
444 Avenue X, Ste 1E
Brooklyn, NY 11223
(718) 375-1616
288630P
2015 Bath Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(718) 375-1616
Long Beach Memorial Hospital
Speaks
GermanItalianSpanish
Friedlander, Bruce W.,
DPM
229664P
567 9th St
Brooklyn, NY 11215
(718) 840-0220
Long Island College Hospital
Speaks SpanishFrench
Ganjian, Afshin, DPM
37177P
146 Sheridan Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11208
(718) 235-6100
Coney Island Hospital, St
Joseph's Hospital Division,
CMC
Speaks
PersianSpanishRussianItalia
n
Garofalo, Alfred A.,
DPM
226023P
Woodhull Med & Ment HC
760 Broadway
Brooklyn, NY 11206
(718) 388-5889
Bellevue Hospital Center,
Gouverneur Hospital, Woodhull
Medical & Mental Health Ctr
Gaudino, Salvatore C.,
DPM
114762P
Boro Medical, PC
540 Atlantic Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11217
(718) 855-4900
37094P
Bensonhurst Fam. Foot Ctr
7819 18th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(718) 234-7054
51018P
Bensonhurst Family Foot
420 74th St
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 836-1017
Mount Sinai Medical Center,
Parkway Hospital, Queens
Hospital Center
Geiger, Arthur, DPM
52948P
Kings County Hospital Ctr
451 Clarkson Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 245-3325
Kings County Hospital Center
George, Thomas, DPM
197909P
888 Fountain Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11208
(718) 235-0574
Hempstead General Hospital
Med Ctr., New York
Westchester Square Medical
Center
Gertsik, Vladimir V., DPM
193957P
Gertsik Podiatry< PC
415 Ocean View Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 934-4842
New York Methodist Hospital
Speaks Russian
Giammarino, Philip A.,
DPM
149919P
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
199181P
HHC-Sheepshead Bay Ctr
3121 Ocean Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 646-9190
36584P
8607 21st Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(718) 266-1986
Coney Island Hospital,
Lutheran Medical Center
Speaks SpanishItalian
Glockenberg, Aaron,
DPM
36620P
Kings County Hospital Ctr
451 Clarkson Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 245-3325
Kings County Hospital Center,
Lincoln Medical & Mental
Health Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center, St
Barnabas Hospital, Union
Hospital of the Bronx (closed)
Speaks PolishHebrew
Board Certified
Male Female
Wheelchair Accessible
Goldman, Gershon A.,
DPM
372901P
Fayn Medical PC
1517 Voorhies Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 648-2491
Forest Hills Hospital, Parkway
Hospital
Speaks
HebrewFrenchYiddishSpanis
h
Goldstein, Israel, DPM
169498P
Ezra Medical Center
571 McDonald Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11218
(718) 686-7600
228018P
468 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11218
(718) 693-0578
Speaks
YiddishRussianRomanianHe
brew
Gonzalez, Ivan, DPM
137870P
East New York D & TC
2094 Pitkin Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11207
(718) 240-0400
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Kings
County Hospital Center, St
Joseph's Hospital Division,
CMC, University Hospital of
Brooklyn
Speaks
SpanishFrenchPortugueseIt
alian
Goodman, Warren J., DPM
213648P
Kings Highway Podiatry
380 Avenue U
Brooklyn, NY 11223
(718) 376-3077
Victory Memorial Hospital
Speaks FrenchSpanish
Greenbaum, Bruce R.,
DPM
P0058P
3000 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 265-2600
Staten Island University
Hosp-North, Staten Island
University Hosp-South
Guberman, Ronald M.,
DPM
144825P
Wound Healing & Hyperbar
374 Stockholm St
Brooklyn, NY 11237
(718) 381-8402
FLUSHING HOSPITAL
MEDICAL CENTER, Franklin
Hospital, Jackson Heights
Hospital Division (closed),
Sound Shore Medical Center of
Westchester, Wyckoff Heights
Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Gventer, Mark, DPM
49889P
434 3rd St
Brooklyn, NY 11215
(718) 499-7583
New York Community Hospital
of Brooklyn
Speaks RussianSpanish
Habib, Henry, DPM
44484P
8000 4th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 833-8136
SVCMC-St Vincents Manhattan
Speaks ItalianArabic
Heller, David P., DPM
36550P
843 Utica Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 345-8923
49818P
2124 Knapp St
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 743-4121
Interfaith Medical Center
Herman, Craig P., DPM
363912P
94-98 Manhattan Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11206
(718) 388-0390
New York Westchester Square
Medical Center, Our Lady of
Mercy Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Horowitz, Mitchell L.,
DPM
123582P
Quality Health Center Inc
138 Division Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11211
(718) 387-2408
Ivanovs, Ray, DPM
226092P
Woodhull Med & Ment HC
760 Broadway
Brooklyn, NY 11206
(718) 388-5889
Woodhull Medical & Mental
Health Ctr
Jarbath, John A., DPM
155825P
2051 Flatbush Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11234
(718) 677-1000
Forest Hills Hospital, New York
Hospital Medical Center of
Queens, Parkway Hospital,
Peninsula Hospital Center
Speaks FrenchCreoles and
pidgins, French-based
(Other)
Jusma, Francoise D., DPM
221129P
Cumberland D & T Ctr
100 N Portland Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11205
(718) 260-7500
221130P
Woodhull Med & Ment HC
760 Broadway
Brooklyn, NY 11206
(718) 388-5889
M4204P
100 Parkside Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11226
(718) 940-5288
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Woodhull
Medical & Mental Health Ctr
Speaks FrenchCreoles and
pidgins, French-based
(Other)
Kaiser, Craig A., DPM
361854P
1220 Avenue P
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 376-1004
361888P
19-02 86th St
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(718) 621-9400
361892P
9708 Seaview Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11236
(718) 444-0520
37134P
465 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11218
(718) 941-3796
Maimonides Medical Center,
New York Methodist Hospital
Kapadwala, Imtiyaz I.,
DPM
37207P
220 A. Saint Nicholas Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11237
(718) 418-8540
50700P
2848 Church Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11226
(718) 703-3000
Kingsbrook Jewish Medical
Center, Wyckoff Heights
Medical Center
Speaks UrduHindi
Katz, Alex S., DPM
291819P
2797 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 615-4444
New York Community Hospital
of Brooklyn
Speaks
RussianHebrewSpanish
Katzman, Barry, DPM
M0791P
233 Nostrand Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11205
(718) 826-5900
New York Flushing Hospital &
Medical Center, New York
Hospital Medical Center of
Queens, Parkway Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Knobel, Jeffrey, DPM
M4199P
1636 E 14th St
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 336-1800
M4200P
662 Bedford Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11211
(718) 336-1800
Beth Israel Medical Center
(Petrie Campus), Brookdale
Hospital Medical Center,
Jamaica Hospital
Speaks RussianYiddish
Lafferty, William A., DPM
355861P
858 Schenectady Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 604-5574
SVCMC-St Vincents Staten
Island, Staten Island University
Hosp-North
Lepore, Frank L., DPM
194379P
349 Henry St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 780-8104
Catholic Medical Center (NY),
Long Island College Hospital,
Wyckoff Heights Medical
Center
Speaks ItalianSpanish
Levitz, Steven J., DPM
371880P
3010 Avenue L
Brooklyn, NY 11210
(718) 258-1820
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Wyckoff
Heights Medical Center
Levy, Brian K., DPM
109695P
1390 Pennsylvania Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11239
(718) 642-2088
Brookdale Hospital Medical
Center, Kingsbrook Jewish
Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Liswood, Paul J., DPM
37131P
Comprehensive Podiatry Sv
7212 4th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 745-0256
53864P
506 6th St
Brooklyn, NY 11215
(718) 780-5850
Lutheran Medical Center, New
York Methodist Hospital
Speaks RussianSpanish
Losyev, Sergey, DPM
173305P
2005 Ocean Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11230
(718) 645-4324
Lutheran Medical Center
Speaks Russian
Lucido, Jeffrey V., DPM
36833P
441 77th St
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 745-3800
54176P
150 55th St
Brooklyn, NY 11220
(718) 630-7095
Doctors Hosp. of Staten Island,
Lutheran Medical Center
Speaks ItalianSpanish
Mahgerefteh, David, DPM
349781P
4405 16th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11204
(718) 633-8662
Parkway Hospital
Speaks Yiddish
Makower, Bryan L., DPM
100861P
Downstate Foot &Ankle Pod
121 Dekalb Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 250-8753
101467P
176 Fenimore St
Brooklyn, NY 11225
(718) 940-0400
36786P
100 Parkside Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11226
(718) 768-1906
54693P
Downstate Foot & Ankle Po
322 Linden Blvd
Brooklyn, NY 11226
(718) 768-1906
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), New
York Methodist Hospital
Speaks SpanishFrench
Mandato, Mark, DPM
298290P
HHC-Kings County Hospital
451 Clarkson Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 245-3325
Kings County Hospital Center,
Metropolitan Hospital Center
Mantzoukas, Argirios,
DPM
221092P
HHC-Coney Island Hospital
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
Coney Island Hospital
Speaks Greek, Modern
(1453-)
Marcelonis, Debra A.,
DPM
173195P
465 New Lots Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11207
(718) 240-8900
Jamaica Hospital
Board Certified
Male Female
Wheelchair Accessible
PODIATRY (Continued)
Marville, Jillion, MD
49868P
353 Empire Blvd
Brooklyn, NY 11225
(718) 221-9244
Matthews, Frederick, DPM
302146P
Frederick Matthew DPM
1641 Bergen St
Brooklyn, NY 11213
(718) 778-2938
Interfaith Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Mckay, Douglas J., DPM
54837P
1704 Mermaid Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11224
(718) 265-0900
Staten Island University
Hosp-North
Meliso, Vincent D., DPM
212393P
1029 Manhattan Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11222
(718) 383-3377
37004P
Lorimer Foot Care
411 Graham Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11211
(718) 383-2518
New York Methodist Hospital
Speaks Italian
Meller, Edward P., DPM
112287P
Ambulatory Care Clinic
1 Brookdale Plz
Brooklyn, NY 11212
(718) 240-5045
112288P
Urban Strategies
1873 Eastern Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11233
(718) 240-8700
Jamaica Hospital, St Joseph's
Hospital Division, CMC
Meshnick, Joel A., DPM
105804P
Kings Country Medical Doc
2705 Mermaid Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11224
(718) 265-2222
191516P
2876 W 27th St
Brooklyn, NY 11224
(718) 265-2222
57875P
ODA Primary Health Care
14-16 Heyward St
Brooklyn, NY 11211
(718) 260-4600
Lutheran Medical Center,
Staten Island University
Hosp-North
Micallef, Joseph, DPM
106156P
1095 Flatbush Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11226
(718) 240-8800
Brookdale Hospital Medical
Center, Forest Hills Hospital,
Jamaica Hospital, New York
Hospital Medical Center of
Queens
Mollica, Peter W., DPM
36634P
8223 14th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11228
(718) 875-9357
36635P
410 Clinton St
Brooklyn, NY 11231
(718) 875-9357
36636P
585 Schenectady Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 604-5481
Interfaith Medical Center,
Kingsbrook Jewish Medical
Center, New York Methodist
Hospital
Speaks Italian
Mollica, Raymond J.,
DPM
36621P
8223 14th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11228
(718) 236-2871
50026P
Raymond J Mollica, MD
410 Clinton St
Brooklyn, NY 11231
(718) 875-1105
Catholic Medical Center (NY),
Kingsbrook Jewish Medical
Center, Lutheran Medical
Center, New York Methodist
Hospital
Montalvo, Luis, DPM
37021P
7523 Fort Hamilton Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11228
(718) 745-7266
Lutheran Medical Center,
Wyckoff Heights Medical
Center
Speaks Spanish
Morreale, Edward, DPM
0X185P
736 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11230
(718) 437-9343
SVCMC-St Vincents Manhattan
Speaks ItalianSpanish
Naik, Hetal B., DPM
113873P
Lafayette Med Office PC
468 Lafayette Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11205
(718) 399-6234
145498P
1417 Foster Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11230
(718) 421-6300
37256P
121 Dekalb Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 250-8753
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Lutheran
Medical Center, Maimonides
Medical Center
Speaks
HindiGujaratiSpanishUrdu
Nekritin, Vadim, DPM
294087P
2306 Avenue U
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 769-8210
St John's Episcopal Hospital
Speaks Russian
Newmark, Alan J., DPM
36637P
34 Plaza St E
Brooklyn, NY 11238
(718) 857-9004
54470P
372 Kingston Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11213
(718) 604-0675
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus)
Speaks
SpanishHebrewFrench
Novofastovsky, Raisa, DPM
214483P
1812 Quentin Rd
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 382-1773
37025P
3066 Brighton 6
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 382-1773
37026P
8622 Bay Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(718) 333-2121
51725P
All Medical Care L.L.P.
8622 Bay Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(718) 333-2121
Lutheran Medical Center, New
York Community Hospital of
Brooklyn
Speaks Russian
Odinsky, Michael E.,
DPM
P0019P
200 Montague St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 422-8000
P0019P
546 Eastern Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11225
(718) 604-4800
Oliva, Imelda A., DPM
139001P
Kings County Hospital Ctr
451 Clarkson Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 245-3325
Kings County Hospital Center,
Metropolitan Hospital Center,
Morrisania Hospital
Speaks TagalogSpanish
Orlando, Anthony, DPM
371187P
HHC-Coney Island Hospital
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
Coney Island Hospital, Forest
Hills Hospital, Lutheran
Medical Center, North Shore
University Hospital
Owusu, Stephen E., DPM
208624P
434 Rockaway Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11212
(718) 346-2628
37081P
Mount Zion Podiatry,PC
106 Pennsylvania Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11207
(718) 385-2085
Jamaica Hospital, St Joseph's
Hospital Division, CMC
Pace, George N., DPM
373411P
Manhattan Footcare
133 Smith St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 330-1117
Cabrini Medical Center, Long
Island College Hospital, New
York Downtown Hospital, New
York Downtown Hospital
(Beekman)
Speaks Spanish
Pace, John F., DPM
45625P
John F. Pace, MD
398 Court St
Brooklyn, NY 11231
(718) 834-0909
Long Island College Hospital,
SVCMC-Bayley Seton
Papa, Philip M., DPM
141176P
Coney Island Hospital
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
Coney Island Hospital
Passik, Arthur L., DPM
45847P
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
Coney Island Hospital,
Massapequa General Hospital,
Plainview Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Speaks SpanishItalianGreek,
Modern (1453-)
Pawson, John F., DPM
134403P
9229 Flatlands Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11236
(718) 257-1444
202015P
Bay Park Medical, PC
6403 18th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11204
(718) 621-0800
New York Community Hospital
of Brooklyn
Speaks
SpanishRussianChineseHeb
rew
Pecora, Maria, DPM
40587P
3245 Nostrand Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 615-3777
Forest Hills Hospital, Jamaica
Hospital, New York Hospital
Medical Center of Queens, St
Joseph's Hospital, St Joseph's
Hospital Division, CMC
Speaks Spanish
Pedro, Helder F., DPM
339019P
Family Physician FHC
5616 6th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11220
(718) 439-5440
339024P
Caribbean American FHC
3414 Church Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 940-9425
54244P
Sunset Park Family Health
150 55th St
Brooklyn, NY 11220
(718) 630-7208
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, Lutheran Medical
Center
Perez, Walter H., DPM
114659P
Advanced Walkin Foot CAre
2146 Beverley Rd
Brooklyn, NY 11226
(718) 675-1100
216489P
2919 Avenue T
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 336-4390
38123P
Advanced WalkIn Foot Care
1214 Coney Island Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11230
(718) 677-7700
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Interfaith
Medical Center, Jamaica
Hospital
Speaks
SpanishRussianTurkish
Pierre, Nadja M., DPM
225911P
Woodhull Med & Ment HC
760 Broadway
Brooklyn, NY 11206
(718) 388-5889
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Woodhull
Medical & Mental Health Ctr
Speaks French
Pierre, Nedjie, DPM
145469P
552 Saint Marks Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11238
(718) 398-8700
37250P
3400 Snyder Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 693-4060
37251P
The Brooklyn Hospital Cen
121 Dekalb Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 488-3708
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus)
Speaks FrenchCreoles and
pidgins, French-based
(Other)
Prince, Steven L., DPM
125224P
JHMC DTC - East New York
3080 Atlantic Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11208
(718) 647-0240
Jamaica Hospital, V A Hospital
- St. Albans
Rabiei, Payman, DPM
214667P
Metropolitan Foot Care PC
94-13 Flatlands Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11236
(718) 649-6464
58033P
Metropolitan Foot Care PC
3309 Church Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 209-0013
Kingsbrook Jewish Medical
Center, Long Island Jewish
Medical Center, Parkway
Hospital
Speaks HebrewPersian
Radler, Bruce L., DPM
36518P
6416 17th Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11204
(718) 236-2821
Staten Island University
Hosp-North
Raskin, Simon, DPM
377535P
Simon Raskin, DPM, P.C.
1409 Gravesend Neck Rd
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 332-7771
Reifer, Howard J., DPM
152842P
1670 E 17th St
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 382-9200
174814P
2433 86th St
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(917) 974-8726
174816P
3059 Brighton 13Th St
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(917) 974-8726
198147P
Quentin Medical, PC
280 Quentin Rd
Brooklyn, NY 11223
(718) 336-4499
217778P
157 York St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 222-0333
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Kings
County Hospital Center
Speaks Spanish
Romano, Constance A.,
DPM
36902P
386 Graham Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11211
(718) 389-9870
Cabrini Medical Center,
Interfaith Medical Center
Speaks Italian
Rosen, Alan J., DPM
36933P
5402 Flatlands Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11234
(718) 444-3338
Brookdale Hospital Medical
Center
Saadvandi, Terence M.,
DPM
349531P
Physicare Multi Services
150 55th St
Brooklyn, NY 11220
(718) 253-3900
349532P
Nostrand Community Medica
220 13th St
Brooklyn, NY 11215
(718) 769-4988
349533P
Brighton Community Medica
9000 Shore Rd
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 646-5500
Lutheran Medical Center
Speaks Arabic
Sande, Hervey, DPM
52950P
Kings County Hospital Ctr
451 Clarkson Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 245-3325
Kings County Hospital Center
Scheiner, David M., DPM
208600P
Good Health Medical, P.C.
3019 Brighton 1St St
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 743-9700
Brunswick Hospital Center Inc,
South Nassau Comm. Hospital,
South Nassau Communities
Hosp., South Nassau
Communities Hospital,
Winthrop University Hospital
Speaks RussianSpanish
Schikman, Lana, DPM
359328P
Kingsbrook Jewish Med Ctr
585 Schenectady Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 604-5388
Kingsbrook Jewish Medical
Center
Speaks Russian
Schneidermesser, Susan
G., DPM
37048P
18 Prospect Park W
Brooklyn, NY 11215
(718) 398-7593
37049P
894 Eastern Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11213
(718) 778-7311
Kingsbrook Jewish Medical
Center
Speaks Spanish
Shapiro, Eugene, DPM
36841P
301 Ocean View Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 332-2582
New York Community Hospital
of Brooklyn
Speaks Russian
Shechter, David Z., DPM
49893P
3066 Brighton 6Th St
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 743-0111
New York Hospital Medical
Center of Queens, St Joseph's
Hospital Division, CMC,
Wyckoff Heights Medical
Center
Shechter, Stuart B., DPM
49678P
Stuart B Shechter, MD
3066 Brighton 6Th St
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 743-0111
Island Medical Center (NY)_
Sherman, Gary, DPM
M4643P
7902 Bay Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11214
(718) 236-7520
Maimonides Medical Center,
New York Downtown Hospital
(Beekman), SVCMC-St Vincents
Staten Island
Silberstein, Jeffrey, DPM
36639P
1367 51st St
Brooklyn, NY 11219
(718) 438-4305
Speaks YiddishSpanish
Silverstein, Alan B., DPM
36642P
1185 Dean St
Brooklyn, NY 11216
(718) 774-2740
Interfaith Medical Center
Spielfogel, William D.,
DPM
36935P
Hamilton Podiatry PC
369 93rd St
Brooklyn, NY 11209
(718) 680-6276
Columbia-Presbyterian
Medical Center
Spindler, Harlan, DPM
36541P
5412 Kings Plz
Brooklyn, NY 11234
(718) 377-1212
Peninsula Hospital Center,
Wyckoff Heights Medical
Center
Speaks
FrenchRussianSpanish
Stanimirov, Catherine,
DPM
112328P
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
137433P
Ida G Irael Comm Hlth Ctr
2201 Neptune Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11224
(718) 946-3400
Coney Island Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Steiner, Richard M., DPM
101731P
2811 Ocean Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 648-5609
SVCMC-St Vincents Manhattan
Stuto, Joseph C., DPM
36813P
100 Remsen St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 624-7537
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), Long
Island College Hospital, New
York Community Hospital of
Brooklyn
Tajerstein, Alan R., DPM
36951P
1335 54th St
Brooklyn, NY 11219
(718) 972-5000
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus)
Speaks YiddishHebrew
Tanenbaum, Mark, DPM
36644P
1648 E 14th St
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 627-0585
Tartack, Ira, DPM
187670P
Coney Island Hospital
2601 Ocean Pkwy
Brooklyn, NY 11235
(718) 616-4331
New York Community Hospital
of Brooklyn, Our Lady of Mercy
Medical Center
Speaks
ItalianSpanishRussian
Tavroff, Clifford D., DPM
P0038P
233 Nostrand Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11205
(718) 826-5900
Trepal, Michael J., DPM
183218P
115 Henry St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 624-8022
Long Island College Hospital,
Metropolitan Hospital Center,
New York Downtown Hospital
(Beekman), SVCMC-St Vincents
Manhattan
Trivlis, Maryann Z., DPM
216717P
248 Avenue P
Brooklyn, NY 11204
(718) 945-0770
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus)
Speaks Greek, Modern
(1453-)
Unger, Leslie M., DPM
36470P
1405 46th St
Brooklyn, NY 11219
(718) 438-8717
49514P
Lesie M Unger, MD
2315 Mermaid Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11224
(718) 373-1820
Maimonides Medical Center
Speaks SpanishYiddish
Vader, Bonnie, DPM
36966P
621 Amboy St
Brooklyn, NY 11212
(718) 345-2935
Brookdale Hospital Medical
Center, Forest Hills Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Waiss, Samuel M., DPM
351219P
2223 Coney Island Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11223
(718) 375-6096
New York Community Hospital
of Brooklyn
Speaks HebrewYiddish
Board Certified
Male Female
Wheelchair Accessible
PODIATRY (Continued)
Wallach, Jacob B., DPM
15739P
2108 Avenue P
Brooklyn, NY 11229
(718) 951-6399
Maimonides Medical Center
Woltman, Robert T., DPM
205506P
Lyudmila Cavalier Physici
9014 Flatlands Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11236
(718) 209-5353
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, New York Westchester
Square Me, Peninsula Hospital
Center
Zonenashvili, Merabi,
DPM
293458P
201 Kings Hwy
Brooklyn, NY 11223
(718) 621-1811
Staten Island University
Hosp-North
Speaks
RussianGeorgianSpanish
Zwiebel, Neil S., DPM
363102P
420 Fulton St
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 797-3668
Cabrini Medical Center, Long
Island College Hospital
Kings
PODIATRY
Abeles, Jay, DPM
36958P
4136 Hicksville Rd
Bethpage, NY 11714
(516) 796-2900
Massapequa General Hospital,
New Island Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Abrahamson, Hal, DPM
54152P
100 Manetto Hill Rd
Plainview, NY 11803
(516) 822-9595
Catholic Medical Center (NY),
Forest Hills Hospital
Speaks Hebrew
Alongi, Maryanne, DPM
36724P
226 7th St
Garden City, NY 11530
(516) 248-9680
Franklin Hospital ,
Massapequa General Hospital,
New Island Hospital
Amato, Richard, DPM
343044P
R.A. Podiatry, P.C.
2116 Merrick Ave
Merrick, NY 11566
(516) 378-9191
New Island Hospital
Axman, Wayne R., DPM
179959P
70 Maple Ave
Rockville Centre, NY 11570
(516) 536-3336
182388P
1420 Broadway
Hewlett, NY 11557
(516) 374-8600
Long Beach Memorial
Hospital, Long Island Jewish
Medical Center, Mount Sinai
Hospital, Mount Sinai of
Queens, New York Hospital
Medical, South Nassau
Communities Hospital
Speaks SpanishGreek,
Modern (1453-)
Bagner, Jerome E., DPM
36499P
30 Hempstead Ave
Rockville Centre, NY 11570
(516) 764-6800
49647P
165 N Village Ave
Rockville Centre, NY 11570
(516) 746-6800
New Island Hospital
Speaks
YiddishItalianJapaneseSpani
sh
Balboa, Henry M., DPM
36506P
100 Manetto Hill Rd
Plainview, NY 11803
(516) 822-9595
Forest Hills Hospital, New
Island Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Barbaro, Thomas, DPM
36883P
706 Jericho Tpke
New Hyde Park, NY 11040
(516) 326-7979
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, North Shore University
Hospital
Speaks Italian
Barkoff, Matthew W.,
DPM
36920P
2900 Hempstead Tpke
Levittown, NY 11756
(516) 579-2800
Glen Cove Hospital, New
Island Hospital, North Shore
University Hospital, Plainview
Hospital, Syosset Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Becker, Jack S., DPM
36551P
178 E Rockaway Rd
Hewlett, NY 11557
(516) 596-1700
49835P
Jack S Becker, MD
3000 Hempstead Tpke
Levittown, NY 11756
(516) 579-1700
Franklin Hospital, Franklin
Hospital , Nassau University
Medical Center, South Nassau
Communities Hosp., South
Nassau Communities Hospital
Bendeth, Marc L., DPM
36520P
1226 W Broadway
Hewlett, NY 11557
(516) 374-4444
Berlin, Kim, DPM
36650P
830 Atlantic Ave
Baldwin, NY 11510
(516) 623-4580
Long Beach Memorial
Hospital, South Nassau
Communities Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Biller, Bob S., DPM
M1057P
756 E Park Ave
Long Beach, NY 11561
(516) 432-7470
LONG BEACH MEMORIAL
MEDICAL CENTER, SAINT
JOHNS EPISCOPAL
HOSPITAL-SOUTH SHORE
Bilotti, Mary A., DPM
169106P
Long Island Podiatry Grp
2001 Marcus Ave
New Hyde Park, NY 11042
(516) 327-0074
M0911P
Long Island Podiatry Grp
375 N Central Ave
Valley Stream, NY 11580
(516) 825-4070
Franklin Hospital , Long Island
Jewish Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Breitman, Debra, DPM
36886P
250 Broadway
Lawrence, NY 11559
(516) 239-4700
Peninsula Hospital Center, St
John's Episcopal Hospital, St
John's Episcopal Hospital -
Far Rockaway
Speaks Spanish
Bubbers, Linda A., DPM
36627P
Sunrise Foot Care
4880 Sunrise Highway
Massapequa Park, NY 11762
(516) 795-6255
Syosset Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Buenahora, Joseph A.,
DPM
M2238P
477 Newbridge Rd
East Meadow, NY 11554
(516) 679-1338
Brunswick General Hospital,
Brunswick Hospital Center Inc,
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital, Syosset Hospital,
Wyckoff Heights Medical
Center
Speaks SpanishYiddish
Burzotta, John L., DPM
36762P
2419 Jericho Tpke
Garden City Park, NY 11040
(516) 294-9540
50161P
Pro Health Care
2800 Marcus Ave
Garden City Park, NY 11042
(516) 622-6040
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, North Shore University
Hospital
Speaks Italian
Caimano, Francis X.,
DPM
300372P
Francis X Caimano
495 S Broadway
Hicksville, NY 11801
(914) 555-1212
P0014P
350 S Broadway
Hicksville, NY 11801
(516) 938-0100
Syosset Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Caprioli, Russell, DPM
359698P
1999 Marcus Ave
New Hyde Park, NY 11042
(516) 555-1212
36764P
Long Island Podiatry Grp
2001 Marcus Ave
New Hyde Park, NY 11042
(516) 327-0074
Franklin Hospital, Franklin
Hospital , Long Beach
Memorial Hospital, Long
Island Jewish Medical Center
Speaks ItalianSpanish
Chernick, Stephen B.,
DPM
50872P
175 Fulton Ave
Hempstead, NY 11550
(516) 489-2261
Parkway Hospital, St John's
Episcopal Hospital - Far
Rockaway
Speaks SpanishHebrew
Cohen, Robert J., DPM
36557P
72 Covert Ave
Garden City, NY 11530
(516) 354-7222
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center, Parkway Hospital
Speaks French
Davies, Daniel A., DPM
36889P
6 Scranton Ave
Lynbrook, NY 11563
(516) 596-0022
Cabrini Medical Center, Good
Samaritan Hospital, Good
Samaritan Hospital (West Islip)
Speaks Italian
Davies, Gregory F., DPM
36657P
Syosset Medical Building
175 Jericho Tpke
Syosset, NY 11791
(516) 496-7676
Glen Cove Hospital, North
Shore University Hospital,
Plainview Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Speaks Spanish
DeCicco, John J., DPM
36618P
875 Old Country Rd
Plainview, NY 11803
(516) 681-8866
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital, Syosset Hospital
Speaks SpanishGreek,
Modern (1453-)Italian
Dubov, Spencer F., DPM
383227P
New Island Hospital
4295 Hempstead Tpke
Bethpage, NY 11714
(631) 858-0011
Mary Immaculate Hospital,
Massapequa General Hospital
Inc., NY Hospital Medical
Center of Queens, Plainview
Hospital
Speaks
YiddishSpanishItalian
Feldman, Gary B., DPM
36826P
5 Sunrise Plz
Valley Stream, NY 11580
(516) 825-6825
St Joseph's Hospital Division,
CMC
Fiorenza, Dominic, DPM
P0048P
350 S Broadway
Hicksville, NY 11801
(516) 938-0100
Fox, Corey, DPM
37000P
Massapequa Podiatry Assoc
4160 Merrick Rd
Massapequa, NY 11758
(516) 541-9000
Brunswick General Hospital,
Brunswick Hospital Center Inc,
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital, Syosset Hospital
Speaks
SpanishTagalogItalian
Fox, Roberta A., DPM
37003P
410 Lakeville Rd
New Hyde Park, NY 11042
(516) 488-5050
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center
Fuchs, David B., DPM
36704P
855 Cynthia Dr
East Meadow, NY 11554
(516) 292-2372
New Island Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Garofalo, Gail F., DPM
37140P
NS Podiatric Med & Surger
410 Lakeville Rd
New Hyde Park, NY 11042
(516) 326-4709
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, St Catherine of Siena,
St Catherine of Sienna Medical
Center, Winthrop University
Hospital, Winthrop-University
Hospital
Gasparini, Mark C., DPM
337162P
119 New York Ave
Massapequa, NY 11758
(516) 804-9038
Speaks Italian
George, Thomas, DPM
141475P
1029 Bellmore Rd
North Bellmore, NY 11710
(516) 679-4636
Hempstead General Hospital
Med Ctr., New York
Westchester Square Medical
Center
Gervasio, Joseph, DPM
36653P
1000 Park Blvd
Massapequa Park, NY 11762
(516) 799-0550
36654P
156 Post Ave
Westbury, NY 11590
(516) 334-8208
Massapequa General Hospital,
Massapequa General Hospital
Inc., New Island Hospital,
Plainview Hospital, Southside
Hospital
Goez, Emilio A., DPM
51027P
Long Island Foot Care
294 W Merrick Rd
Freeport, NY 11520
(516) 378-8383
Nassau University Medical
Center, Saint Catharines
General Hospital, St Barnabas
Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Golub, Cary M., DPM
37076P
854 E Broadway
Long Beach, NY 11561
(516) 889-2200
Long Beach Medical Center,
South Nassau Communities
Hospital
Speaks Hebrew
Gottlieb, Robert J., DPM
36579P
188 W Main St
Oyster Bay, NY 11771
(516) 922-0502
Glen Cove Hospital, Good
Samaritan Hospital (West Islip)
Speaks Spanish
Greenbaum, Mitchell A.,
DPM
36924P
111 Mineola Ave
Roslyn Heights, NY 11577
(516) 484-1444
36925P
525 Woodbury Rd
Plainview, NY 11803
(516) 433-3353
Glen Cove Hospital, Long
Island Jewish Medical Center,
New Island Hospital, North
Shore University Hospital,
Plainview Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Greiff, Lance, DPM
36988P
29 Barstow Rd
Great Neck, NY 11021
(516) 829-1028
Brooklyn Hospital Center
(Downtown Campus), New
York Flushing Hospital &
Medical Center, Parkway
Hospital
Grossman, Myles, DPM
36831P
2174 Hewlett Ave
Merrick, NY 11566
(516) 379-2560
41745P
156 Post Ave
Westbury, NY 11590
(516) 334-8208
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital
Speaks SpanishHebrew
Herbert, Scott E., DPM
284145P
49 Church St
Freeport, NY 11520
(516) 378-0184
St Catherine of Siena
Hershey, Paul E., DPM
36462P
2110 Northern Blvd
Manhasset, NY 11030
(516) 627-5775
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, Saint Francis Hospital -
Bronx
Speaks SpanishYiddish
Herzberg, Abraham, DPM
54315P
300 Franklin Ave
Valley Stream, NY 11580
(516) 561-1617
54316P
833 Northern Blvd
Great Neck, NY 11021
(516) 622-7900
Franklin Hospital, Jamaica
Hospital
Speaks Yiddish
Hickey, John, DPM
M4002P
2870 Hempstead Tpke
Levittown, NY 11756
(516) 735-4545
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital, Syosset Hospital
Honore, Lesly S., DPM
132409P
Podiatry Services of New
905 Uniondale Ave
Uniondale, NY 11553
(516) 565-5666
132410P
981 Rosedale Rd
Valley Stream, NY 11581
(516) 295-6307
Cabrini Medical Center, Mercy
Medical Center,
Winthrop-University Hospital
Speaks
SpanishFrenchCreoles and
pidgins (Other)
Horl, Lawrence, DPM
36912P
61 N Park Ave
Rockville Centre, NY 11570
(516) 766-5550
Forest Hills Hospital,
Hempstead General Hospital
Med Ctr., Mercy Medical
Center, Peninsula Hospital
Center, South Nassau
Communities Hospital, St
John's Episcopal Hospital -
Far Rockaway
Speaks Spanish
Horowitz, Mitchell L.,
DPM
M2025P
2720 Jerusalem Ave
North Bellmore, NY 11710
(516) 679-2720
Irwin, Robert A., DPM
37172P
143 Merrick Ave
Merrick, NY 11566
(516) 623-2800
NY Hospital Medical Center of
Queens, New Island Hospital,
New York Hospital Medical
Center of Queens, Syosset
Hospital
Speaks SpanishItalianGreek,
Modern (1453-)
Jackalone, John A., DPM
277559P
Podiatry Offices
4295 Hempstead Tpke
Bethpage, NY 11714
(516) 579-3500
Catholic Medical Center (NY),
Forest Hills Hospital, Long
Beach Memorial Hospital, St
Vincents Medical Center Of
New York
Speaks Spanish
Jarbath, John A., DPM
155828P
50 Hempstead Ave
Lynbrook, NY 11563
(516) 599-0302
Forest Hills Hospital, New York
Hospital Medical Center of
Queens, Parkway Hospital,
Peninsula Hospital Center
Speaks FrenchCreoles and
pidgins, French-based
(Other)
Karpe, David E., DPM
160781P
Howard Kessler & Assoc PC
200 N Village Ave
Rockville Centre, NY 11570
(516) 764-0434
Franklin Hospital, Franklin
Hospital , Peninsula Hospital
Center, South Nassau Comm.
Hospital, South Nassau
Communities Hosp.
Speaks Spanish
Kashefsky, Helene P., DPM
37071P
2201 Hempstead Tpke
East Meadow, NY 11554
(516) 572-0123
Nassau University Medical
Center
Speaks Spanish
Kasminoff, June G.,
DPM
37044P
666 Old Bethpage Rd
Old Bethpage, NY 11804
(516) 777-3668
Massapequa General Hospital,
New Island Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Kessler, Howard N., DPM
36570P
200 N Village Ave
Rockville Centre, NY 11570
(516) 764-0434
Franklin Hospital, Franklin
Hospital , Mercy Medical
Center, Nassau University
Medical Center, South Nassau
Communities Hosp., South
Nassau Communities Hospital
Kisberg, Stephen, DPM
36519P
11 Franklin Pl
Woodmere, NY 11598
(516) 295-2121
St John's Episcopal Hospital -
Far Rockaway
Kitton, Stuart E., DPM
36573P
41 Woods Dr
Roslyn, NY 11576
(516) 626-3999
MEADOWLANDS HOSPITAL
MEDICAL CENTER, Mount
Sinai Medical Center,
SVCMC-St Vincents
Manhattan, The Mount Sinai
Hospital of Queens
Speaks Spanish
Klein, Michael S., DPM
36893P
East Norwich Podiatry
898 Oyster Bay Rd
East Norwich, NY 11732
(516) 624-2101
36894P
Oceanside Podiatry
3105 Lawson Blvd
Oceanside, NY 11572
(516) 766-8500
Glen Cove Hospital, Long
Beach Memorial Hospital,
Syosset Hospital
Klirsfeld, Jeffrey S.,
DPM
36857P
2870 Hempstead Tpke
Levittown, NY 11756
(516) 731-3300
Massapequa General Hospital,
New Island Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Kohn, Arlene F., DPM
37113P
Family Footcare
120 Bethpage Rd
Hicksville, NY 11801
(516) 938-6000
Mercy Medical Center, New
Island Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Kolberg, John J., DPM
37222P
320 Post Ave
Westbury, NY 11590
(516) 338-8802
New Island Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Koslow, Paul M., DPM
50912P
Great Neck Podiatry Asso
29 Barstow Rd
Great Neck, NY 11021
(516) 829-1028
Maimonides Medical Center,
New York Hospital Medical
Center of Queens, New York
Methodist Hospital
LaRocca, Albert, DPM
36594P
2 Raemar Ct
Bethpage, NY 11714
(516) 935-0111
New Island Hospital
Speaks ItalianGerman
Landau, Laurence D., DPM
193059P
86 George St
Roslyn Heights, NY 11577
(516) 731-1900
38312P
160 Hicksville Rd
Bethpage, NY 11714
(516) 731-1900
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital
Landy, Robert J., DPM
123448P
120 Bethpage Rd
Hicksville, NY 11801
(516) 827-4500
123481P
530 Hicksville Rd
Bethpage, NY 11714
(516) 937-5000
Massapequa General Hospital,
Our Lady of Mercy Medical
Center, Parkway Hospital,
Southside Hospital, Winthrop
University Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Larsen, Joseph A., DPM
50624P
National Foot Care
2419 Jericho Tpke
Garden City Park, NY 11040
(516) 294-9540
North Shore University
Hospital
Levine, Stanley, DPM
36477P
4725 Merrick Rd
Massapequa, NY 11758
(516) 799-8545
Brunswick General Hospital,
Brunswick Hospital Center Inc,
Hempstead General Hospital
Med Ctr., Massapequa General
Hospital, New Island Hospital,
Syosset Hospital
Speaks
SpanishGermanItalian
Levitsky, David A., DPM
301933P
161 Orchard St
Plainview, NY 11803
(516) 822-9666
Board Certified
Male Female
Wheelchair Accessible
Livingston, Douglas W.,
DPM
37180P
Livingston Foot Care Spec
1685 Newbridge Rd
North Bellmore, NY 11710
(516) 826-0103
Brunswick Hospital Center Inc,
Massapequa General Hospital
Inc., Nassau University Medical
Center, New Island Hospital,
Plainview Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Livingston, Leon B., DPM
36486P
Livingston Foot Care Spec
1685 Newbridge Rd
North Bellmore, NY 11710
(516) 826-0103
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital, Syosset Hospital
Livingston, Michael D.,
DPM
37064P
Livingston Foot Care Spec
1685 Newbridge Rd
Bellmore, NY 11710
(516) 826-0103
Brunswick Hospital Center Inc,
Nassau University Medical
Center, New Island Hospital,
Plainview Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Lynn, Brian P., DPM
108081P
Comprehensive Podiatric
2110 Northern Blvd
Manhasset, NY 11030
(516) 627-5775
355143P
Comprehensive Podiatric
935 Northern Blvd
Great Neck, NY 11021
(516) 627-5775
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, Montefiore Med Ctr
(Henry & Lucy Moses Div)
Speaks Spanish
Mahgerefteh, David, DPM
349786P
230 Middle Neck Rd
Great Neck, NY 11021
(516) 829-2560
Parkway Hospital
Speaks Yiddish
Marchese, Nicholas A.,
DPM
359291P
1000 Park Blvd
Massapequa Park, NY 11762
(516) 799-0550
New Island Hospital, Southside
Hospital
Masani, Farhan, DPM
37069P
530 Old Country Rd
Westbury, NY 11590
(516) 334-7642
Nassau University Medical
Center, Syosset Hospital,
Wyckoff Heights Medical
Center
Speaks
SpanishFrenchHindiUrdu
McElgun, Terence M.,
DPM
36861P
520 Franklin Ave
Garden City, NY 11530
(516) 746-4732
36862P
1135 N Broadway
Massapequa, NY 11758
(516) 756-0091
380037P
N. Shore Hosp., Plainview
888 Old Country Rd
Plainview, NY 11803
(516) 796-1313
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital, Syosset Hospital
Speaks SpanishItalian
Mcshane, William J., DPM
36802P
Harbor Podiatry PC
131 Main St
East Rockaway, NY 11518
(516) 593-2233
36803P
54 Main St
Hempstead, NY 11550
(516) 538-4531
Franklin Hospital, Island
Medical Center (NY)_
Meshnick, Joel A., DPM
139939P
2574 Hewlett Ln
Bellmore, NY 11710
(516) 781-5440
Lutheran Medical Center,
Staten Island University
Hosp-North
Micallef, Joseph, DPM
36900P
101st Avenue Foot Care PC
287 Northern Blvd
Great Neck, NY 11021
(516) 773-4001
Brookdale Hospital Medical
Center, Forest Hills Hospital,
Jamaica Hospital, New York
Hospital Medical Center of
Queens
Moazen, Ali, DPM
P0033P
226 Clinton St
Hempstead, NY 11550
(516) 483-2020
Speaks Persian
Montag, Richard M.,
DPM
36509P
528 Bellmore Ave
East Meadow, NY 11554
(516) 483-7386
Island Medical Center (NY)_,
Plainview Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Speaks Spanish
Nester, Elizabeth M., DPM
37243P
3 Walnut Rd
Glen Cove, NY 11542
(516) 674-9661
37244P
Nester Podiatry Associate
267 Lincoln Blvd
Long Beach, NY 11561
(516) 889-0969
57655P
East Coast Podiatry PLLC
680 Merrick Rd
Baldwin, NY 11510
(516) 889-0969
Glen Cove Hospital, Long
Beach Medical Center
Speaks Spanish
Nester, Matthew J., DPM
211451P
Nester Poadiatry Assoc
3227 Long Beach Rd
Oceanside, NY 11572
(516) 431-1600
50871P
Nester Podiatry Asso.
3 Walnut Rd
Glen Cove, NY 11542
(516) 674-9661
Long Beach Medical Center,
Long Beach Memorial
Hospital, St John's Episcopal
Hospital, St John's Episcopal
Hospital - Far Rockaway
Speaks Spanish
Nezaria, Yehuda, DPM
37236P
7 Franklin Ave
Lynbrook, NY 11563
(516) 887-2820
49675P
2053 Bellmore Ave
Bellmore, NY 11710
(516) 887-2820
Franklin Hospital, Franklin
Hospital , Huntington Hospital
Speaks Hebrew
Odinsky, Wayne Z., DPM
P0034P
2035 Lakeville Rd
New Hyde Park, NY 11040
(718) 343-0600
New York Hospital Medical
Center of Queens, Parkway
Hospital, Rockaway Beach
Hospital (closed)
Pedro, Helder F., DPM
54241P
Helder F. Pedro, DPM
1 Willow Pl
Albertson, NY 11507
(516) 621-3721
Long Island Jewish Medical
Center, Lutheran Medical
Center
Peterson, Donald T.,
DPM
36931P
8029 Jericho Tpke
Woodbury, NY 11797
(516) 496-0900
Plainview Hospital, Syosset
Hospital
Prince, Steven L., DPM
124780P
78 Marina Rd
Island Park, NY 11558
(516) 432-1332
Jamaica Hospital, V A Hospital
- St. Albans
Purvin, Jay M., DPM
36608P
467 Merrick Ave
East Meadow, NY 11554
(516) 489-1950
New Island Hospital, Plainview
Hospital
Richardson, Hugh L., DPM
195855P
L.I. Podiatric Grp
2001 Marcus Ave
New Hyde Park, NY 11042
(516) 327-0074
195856P
L.I. Podiatric Grp
375 N Central Ave
Valley Stream, NY 11580
(516) 825-4070
363220P
1999 Marcus Ave
New Hyde Park, NY 11042
(516) 555-1212
Franklin Hospital, Franklin
Hospital , Long Island Jewish
Medical Center, Long Island
Jewish, Manhasset (closed)
Speaks Spanish
Bronx Kings Nassau

Result number: 36

Message Number 231975

Would the modern mainstream liberal media have ignored D-Day? View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 6/23/07 at 10:30




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OPERATION ARROWHEAD RIPPER Print E-mail
Written by Jack Kelly
Friday, 22 June 2007

Imagine it's June 7, 1944, the day after the D-Day invasion. You pick up your newspaper. There's no mention of Normandy on the front page, and only a brief reference to it in a roundup story on an inside page.

The biggest battle since the invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein's regime is under way in Iraq. It's outcome could determine whether the war is won or lost. But our news media have paid less attention to it than to Paris Hilton's legal troubles.

The heart of the offensive is Operation Arrowhead Ripper, in Diyala province northeast of Baghdad, involving some 8,000 American and 2,000 Iraqi troops.

Many members of al Qaida fled from Baghdad to Diyala, which borders on Iran, when the U.S. troop surge began in January. There are thought to be between 1,000 and 2,000 hard core al Qaida fighters in Diyala, mostly in the provincial capital of Baquba.

'They are ready for us,' said former Special Forces soldier Michael Yon, now a freelance journalist embedded with the U.S. troops. 'Giant bombs are buried in the roads. Snipers have chiseled holes in walls so they can shoot not from roofs or windows, but from deep inside buildings, where we cannot see the flash or hear the shots...Car bombs are already assembled. Suicide vests are prepared.'

It's no coincidence that Arrowhead Ripper began within days of the arrival in Baghdad of the fifth and final brigade of the troop surge.

'The U.S. ability to shift 10,000 coalition soldiers into a major operation outside Baghdad in the midst of a major security crackdown is the mark of significant operational flexibility,' said STRATFOR, a private intelligence service. 'This flexibility will allow the United States to keep pressure on the jihadists and thus impede their ability to plan complex operations.'

Chiefly because of a shortage of troops, American offensives in the past have tended just to push insurgents from one part of Iraq to another. Arrowhead Ripper is different.
'The idea this time is not to chase al Qaida out, but to trap and kill them head on, or in ambushes, or while they sleep,' Mr. Yon said.

'The city is cordoned, neighborhoods are identified as friendly or enemy territory, the neighborhoods are then segmented and forces move in,' wrote Bill Roggio in his invaluable blog, Fourth Rail. 'The combat operations are then immediately followed by humanitarian and reconstruction projects.'

Simultaneous offensives are being conducted in another insurgents' rat's nest, Babil province southwest of Baghdad, and in Baghdad neighborhoods where Coalition soldiers in the past have been reluctant to go.

Simultaneous offensives are the best way to gain decisive victory over a numerically inferior force, because they prevent the enemy from shifting forces from one front to another. The Union did not prevail in our Civil War until Grant attacked in the East at the same time as Sherman attacked in the West.

Our soldiers are being assisted by former insurgents who have turned against al Qaida. Unlike the Anbar Salvation Council on which it is modeled, the Diyala Salvation Front isn't strong enough to take on al Qaida by itself. But the intelligence its members provide could prove invaluable to our troops.

You haven't heard of the Anbar Salvation Council? Maybe that's because our news media have tended to treat good news from Iraq as no news. When Thomas Ricks of the Washington Post reported last September that a senior Marine intelligence officer thought Anbar province had been 'lost politically,' his story attracted enormous attention from his fellow journalists. Google lists 789,000 references to that one story.

The Anbar Salvation Council, a coalition of 41 Sunni tribes under the leadership of Sheik Abdul Sattar al Rishawi, has in very short order reversed that situation (if it were ever as dire as Col. Pete Devlin imagined). Al Qaida has been all but driven out of Iraq's 'Wild West.' But Google lists only 114,000 mentions of the Anbar Salvation Council. (Paris Hilton has nearly 76 million mentions.)

The Anbar Salvation Council model is spreading. The Diyala Salvation Front was formed in May. More than ten tribes in Baghdad and its suburbs have banded together to fight al Qaida, USA Today reported Tuesday.

If Arrowhead Ripper succeeds, al Qaida in Iraq will suffer a blow from which it may not recover. 'In Diyala, both the foreign jihadists and their domestic allies are beginning to feel cornered, with few places left to hide,' STRATFOR said.

But if Arrowhead Ripper succeeds, you may not hear much about it. A U.S. victory would be too embarrassing for those in the media who have staked their reputations on defeat.

Result number: 37

Message Number 231951

metatarsal pain View Thread
Posted by thomasina g on 6/22/07 at 19:30

for years i've had metatarsal arthritis which leaves me debilitated for weeks at a time. an acquaintance had complete success a few years ago with treatment by an ossotron machine. at the time she had pf as well as the metatarsal pain, so when the dr treated the pf, he also ran the machine over the metarsal bones. her recovery is COMPLETE. i do not have pf and would like to obtain info on treating my arthritis with eswt or other machines.

please help

Result number: 38

Message Number 231078

Re: immobilize after PF release? View Thread
Posted by David G. Wedemeyer, DC on 6/04/07 at 13:30

Lori has your doctor suggested a weight-bearing ankle/foot orthosis (AFO) and shoe mods for the lateral column pain? A reverse Thomas heel in the shoe and/or cuboid pad in the AFO could be of help. Typically an orthotic with these modifications built in does the trick but given the chronic nature of your complaint, immobilization of the foot and ankle is indicated here.

I agree with Dr. Ed's recomendation post-surgery and that avoiding it altogether will avoid the same problem with the left foot.

Knowing that you have rheumatoid arthritis is a huge factor. Depending on the amount of joint change you have endured immobilization may be your only resource short of more permanent changes, ie; surgical correction.

DW

Result number: 39

Message Number 231043

Re: lateral column pain View Thread
Posted by David G. Wedemeyer, DC on 6/03/07 at 20:24

I would add ....a steel shanked shoe and a reverse Thomas heel built in would augment the othotic.

Result number: 40

Message Number 230914

ASTYM works to cure chronic plantar fasciitis View Thread
Posted by runner347 on 6/01/07 at 12:32

ASTYM stands for 'augmented soft-tissue manipulation.' The ASTYM system, however, goes beyond the standard idea of deep tissue massage. ASTYM therapy is a treatment protocol developed by a sports medicine doctor, Dr. Thomas Sevier. Dr. Sevier was frustrated by his own chronic patellar tendinitis, which limited his activities. Building on the idea of deep-tissue manipulation, Sevier went into the laboratory and figured out exactly what worked to really cure scar tissue and stimulate the body to heal an injury--whether it be new or chronic--correctly.
ASTYM works to heal two things: Scarring and degenerative tendinosis. Soft-tissue injuries are mostly about having inappropriate healing in muscles, tendons or ligaments. Scar tissue looks like steel wool--it is disorganized. Healthy tissue lies down in nice, parallel lines. Scar tissue restricts the natural movement of soft tissue and that restriction is what causes pain. If you ignore scar tissue, it tends to harden and contract, which causes more and more pain and stiffness.
Degenerative tendons, on the other hand, are simply not producing enough healthy cells and collagen (the stuff that gives tendons their tensile strength.) A degenerative tendon is unhealthy, has poor blood flow, and is prone to weakness and injury.
PF can be one or both of these things.
The ASTYM system works to heal both the problem of scar (inappropriate healing) and degeneration (lack of proper healing.)
This is how it works:
ASTYM treatment initiates the natural healing response of the body by gently stimulating abnormal soft tissue. The body sends new collagen to the area being treated, replacing dysfunctional tissue with healthy tissue.
A certified ASTYM therapist uses specially designed instruments to identify the areas of dysfunction where you hurt. She or he runs the instruments firmly along the skin, following the direction of the muscle, tendon or ligament. During the treatment, you feel bumps as the tool moves along your skin--these bumps are the defective soft tissue. It can be uncomfortable at first, and cause some mild bruising, but that's an indication that the body is setting up its natural healing cascade.
For plantar fasciitis, ASTYM treatment doesn't call for this part of the therapy to be done just on the bottom of your foot. One of the things Dr. Sevier discovered is that the whole kinetic chain must be addressed with the therapy, so an ASTYM treatment will work not only the bottom of the foot, but the ankle, calf, shin, and knee areas.
The second part of ASTYM treatment calls for the person to guide how their body heals. The therapist will give you a customized stretching and strengthening program, specifically designed to encourage your body to heal correctly. Stretching tells the new fibers to line up properly in tidy, parallel lines. Strength work makes the fibers stronger, allowing your symptoms of pain and discomfort to go away.
Thirdly, the ASTYM protocol asks you to do the activity that caused or aggravated your PF in the first place. For me, it was running. I was told to run (easy miles on trails or the elliptical) as part of my therapy.
One criticism of ASTYM therapy is that people have to pay other people to do it. The system evolved from years of clinical research by medical professionals. You can't take a spoon and rub it on your foot and expect to get the results you would from a certified ASTYM provider. Frankly, you could hurt yourself--or someone could hurt you--if you don't know what you're doing. Too much pressure on an injury will damage the area even more, too little pressure achieves no results.
Personally, ASTYM worked to cure a 25-year chronic case of PF that got worse or 'better' depending upon my level of running or cycling activity. I really believe in the system and recommend it. (Full disclaimer, I wrote an article about it for Trail Runner Magazine.)
The disadvantages to the system as I see them are that you have to pay someone to do the treatment. It is pretty uncomfortable the first two or three treatments. You may bruise (I sure did.) There are a limited number of ASTYM-certified clinicians, and at this time they are only in the United States.
The advantages are that IT WORKS. Health insurance covers it (when recommended by a physician.) It takes only about 12 treatments to get lasting relief. I still stretch rigorously, but after 3 years, my PF--which I have had since I was 15 years old--is gone.
I like ASTYM because it's backed by the medical profession. It's a treatment that has a whole bunch of good, solid medical proof and evidence behind it. I don't worry that I'll get hurt by some yahoo digging into my musculature so hard he or she hurts me.
And--ASTYM worked. It worked on me, and it has worked on many high-end athletes and regular folks I know personally.
NOTE: WOULD YOU PLEASE PUT 'ASTYM' IN THE LIBRARY OF TERMS? THANK YOU!

Result number: 41
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Message Number 229876

Re: Mild Cuboid Subluxation? View Thread
Posted by David G. Wedemeyer, DC on 5/14/07 at 23:09

Larry any healthy synovial joint can be manipulated within reason although it is far from a panacea, excepting the spine due to it's anatomy and the intervertebral disc. I don't advocate blindly manipulating say a plantar flexed first ray as the joints in the feet lack this feature (the disc) and you could make the joint highly unstable stretching the capsular ligaments.

I first assess the joint in question including the entire history, xray and range of motion etc. If it in fact a reduceable fixation the manipulation is typically only an adjunct to orthotic therapy to maintain the correction. A spine is drastically different as the disc (a healthy disc) can and does change shape due to forces acting upon it, whether that be manipulation, exercise, stretching, traction etc.

Many of the bones of the feet can sublux below the level of a drastic structural change and be effectively reduced in a gentle fashion. I think all of us who provide orthotics would agree with this statement.
If you can reduce the defect and maintain that position with a properly designed orthosis the effect is even more dramatic and efficacious.

If you;re truly interested Thomas Michaud, DC wrote a text on foot orthoses and has a section devoted to manipulation of the lower extremity. His understanding of the subject is not disputed and conservative.

To answer your question more fully can a rigid plantarflexed first ray, degenerative arthritic changes, a rear or forefoot varus/valgus malposition etc. be altered by manipulation? No, and I wouldn't advise trying. Can some of these structures be affected in terms of range of motion and pain relief? Certainly.

Knowing when to treat with manipulation is never as important as important as knowing when not to. James Cyriax was a huge proponent of learning to understand the difference and used orthopedic manipulation for a variety of extremity complaints. Will you ever visibly see a structural change on plain film post-manipulation? I guess that may depend on your visual acuity and we don;t xray people capriciously to observe the minute structural changes inherent in a subluxation.

DW

Result number: 42

Message Number 229675

Re: response to challenges View Thread
Posted by Julie on 5/12/07 at 02:06


Last night on the local (London, UK) news there was an interview with a woman named Gill Hicks, who was the last person to be pulled out of her underground train. She almost died, and both her legs were amputated. She got married five months later, and walked down the aisle on her prosthetic legs, wearing silver Adidas trainers (which were shown - very beautiful they were - on the programme).

She spoke movingly of her appreciation and gratitude for the rescue workers who had pulled her out of the wrecked train and carried her to safety, and the doctors and nurses at St Thomas's hospital who cared for her, she said, with love. She looked wonderful, fully healed, vibrant and alive. She is clearly without bitterness or regret, and is getting on with her life.

As I watched the interview, I couldn't help thinking of this conversation. We are given the experiences we are given, we often cannot change our situations, but we always have the choice as to how we respond to them. For full healing, we need to accept things as they are: from that point of acceptance, we can move forward.

I recently discovered this poem by a Japanese Zen monk:

Look straight ahead.
What's there?
If you see it as it is
You will never err.

John, if you are there and reading this, I hope it rings a bell. If not, perhaps it will ring a bell with someone else.
.

Result number: 43

Message Number 229114

DRX9000 View Thread
Posted by Thomas on 5/04/07 at 13:51

The reason why most insurance companies do not cover the procedure is politics. You have a program that is getting great result with no drugs or surgery. Lets see who does that eliminate, oh ya the surgeons and drug companies. We use a much more advanced machine than the DRX traction device. Our table the SpineMED is actually FDA approved, unlike the DRX, they tell you it is but according to all the FBI investigations the marketers of the DRX lied about all thier research. We have a huge insurance mill clinic down the road from us that uses 4 DRX and they are our best referral source. I can't tell you how many people have had 40-60 treatments with little success and then try our table and can not understand why after 8-10 treatments they are almost pain free. It is the difference between glorified traction(DRX) and true spinal decompression(spinemed. Do your homework and you will see the spinemed id the most advanced, patient friendly and effective procedure for decompression.

Result number: 44

Message Number 224654

ok View Thread
Posted by marie on 3/08/07 at 15:29

That's right it is against the law to post harrassing messages on a blog or message board unless you use your real name. Bush signed this into law last January. It is part of the "Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act of 2005". Buried deep in the new law is Sec. 113, an innocuously titled bit called "Preventing Cyberstalking." It rewrites existing telephone harassment law to prohibit anyone from using the Internet "without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy." What does that mean? Read for yourself.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/01/20060105-3.html
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.03402 :

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20060127_sinrod.html
Specifically, Section 113(a)(3) provides that Section 223(a)(1)(C) applies to "any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet." Hello!

What does this mean? The Communications Act provides for fines and imprisonment of up to two years for violations. Thus, taken to a logical extreme conclusion, it is possible that a person who makes a Web posting or who sends an email that is intended simply to "annoy" someone else while not disclosing his or her true identity, could be subject to fines and jail time.

http://www.hudsonreporter.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16948301&BRD=1291&PAG=461&dept_id=523589&rfi=6
In 2005, 443 cases of cyberstalking were reported to http://www.haltabuse.org , a volunteer organization that works to fight online harassment by educating the general public and law enforcement personnel.

One can report harassing posts here:

- http://www.haltabuse.org/

Online Harassment/Cyberstalking Statistics
http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/stats/index.shtml

Actually it is a real law larry. And yes it has been used. Remember the "Patriot Act"? That information is much easier to retrieve then ever before.

You'll notice the links provided in the first post are to whitehouse.gov, the actual bill at Thomas.loc.gov and to Findlaw.com. It's real. Unless Bush pretending to sign the bill and they were pretending to document it on whitehouse.gov.

Here's another: http://www.vawa2005.org/ Violence Against Women Reauthorization Law. If someone is harassing you on a public forum this is your contact information.........

The Taskforce is chaired by Legal Momentum: http://www.legalmomentum.org/legalmomentum/ For more information contact: 522 K Street, NW Suite 550 Washington, DC 20005 Tel. 202.326.0040 Fax 202.589.0511

Result number: 45

Message Number 224097

Question about Cavitation and ESWT View Thread
Posted by Confused on 3/04/07 at 09:46

I read an article referencing ESWT and the "Cavitation" Dr Z keeps mentioning, article referenced:

1. efficacy of ESWT treatment has not been well established
2. it is unknown whether or not cavitation is a significant factor
3. the mechanism of action, particularly the role of cavitation, is not well understood

Authors: Matula, Thomas J.; Yu, Jinfei; Bailey, Michael R.

Result number: 46

Message Number 223590

Economics 101 View Thread
Posted by john h on 2/25/07 at 12:47

You may not be a fan of Thomas Sowell but his is an economist who will bring economics down to the working mans level:



By Thomas Sowell





With all the advances in sophisticated analysis by professional economists, very little of even the basic principles of economics has gotten down to the average citizen and voter.


Many, if not most, of the economic policies advocated by politicians today would never pass muster if the average voter understood as much economics as an economist like Alfred Marshall understood 100 years ago or David Ricardo 200 years ago.


Nothing is more basic in economics than prices and yet the role of prices is repeatedly ignored or even misrepresented by politicians and the media.


What do prices do?


Prices impose the most effective kind of rationing self-rationing. Why is rationing necessary? Because what everybody wants always adds up to more than there is.


It doesn't matter whether you are talking about a capitalist economy, a socialist economy, a feudal economy or whatever. Resources are limited but desires are not. That is the basic and defining problem of economics.


Prices force you to limit your claims on what other people have produced to the value of what you have produced for other people. Prices force you to limit how much of product A you buy because you need to keep some money to buy product B.


While prices convey these limitations, they do not cause them. No economy capitalist, socialist, feudal or whatever ­ can keep consuming more than it produces. Producing more of product A means using up resources needed to produce product B.


Simple and obvious as all this may seem, politicians blithely ignore it when they promise to make the prices of housing or health care or other things "reasonable" or "affordable."


Nothing is easier for any government than to impose price controls. Governments have been doing that for thousands of years. What governments cannot control are the underlying realities expressed through prices.


What does the history of thousands of years of price controls tell us?


The first thing undermined or destroyed is self-rationing. When you pay the full price of going to a doctor, you go there when you have a broken leg but not when you have the sniffles or a minor skin rash. When the government makes health care "affordable," you go there for sniffles and a minor skin rash.


The underlying reality has not changed, however. The doctor's time is still limited, and the time that you take up with your sniffles or skin rash is time that somebody else with a broken leg or perhaps cancer has to wait to get an appointment.


Government-run health care systems in countries around the world have longer waits sometimes months ­ to get medical attention. In other words, the rationing goes on, but more haphazardly, because prices do not force people to ration themselves according to the seriousness of their problem.


It is the same story when housing prices are controlled by government. Rent control has allowed some people to take up more housing space than they would if they had to pay the full price that reflects other people's demand for housing.


The net result, whether in New York or San Francisco or elsewhere, is a lot of apartments with just one person living in each, and lots of families who cannot find a vacant place to move into. Housing shortages have resulted from rent control in cities around the world.


Housing shortages mean that some people are forced to live far from their jobs and commute, and some become homeless on the street. Homelessness tends to be greater in cities with rent control New York and San Francisco again being classic examples.


Economists have long been saying that there is no free lunch but politicians get elected by promising free lunches. Controlling prices creates the illusion of free lunches.


Prices not only ration existing supplies, they also determine how many new supplies will be forthcoming. When a new pharmaceutical drug costs an average of $800 million to develop, there is no point talking about "affordable" medications.


Either the $800 million is going to be paid or the supply of new drugs will dry up. Controlling prices does not change that.

Result number: 47

Message Number 223238

Re: Extreme foot pain need help for cure View Thread
Posted by Jeremy L on 2/21/07 at 15:57

There are two DPM's in Maryland who also hold certificates in pedorthics. They can certainly assist with the kinds of things you describe. Best wishes for you.

David J. Levine DPM CPed
63 Thomas Johnson Dr Ste. C
Frederick, MD 21702
(301) 696-0818

Courtney S. Palmer, DPM
2086 Generals Highway
Annapolis, MD 21401
(410) 573-1111

Result number: 48

Message Number 223193

Democratic Leaders Demands Investigation Into Walter Reed View Thread
Posted by marie on 2/21/07 at 11:05

Irregardless of yours or mine political beliefs I was stunned at the Washington Post article on the neglect and living conditions for out patients at Walter Redd. What a nightmare for these families and a betrayal of our troops. All of congress is to blame for not investigating these conditions reported through their aids. I am glad that 2 Democratic leaders have stepped up to the plate on the issue.

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070220-obama_mccaskill_to_introduce_legislation_that_would_improve_conditions_at_active_duty_military_hospitals/index.html
Obama, McCaskill to Introduce Legislation That Would Improve Conditions at Active Duty Military Hospitals.

Washington Post exposed lack of caseworkers, deteriorating conditions at Walter Reed,

WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), a member of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee, and Claire McCaskill (D-MO), a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, today announced that they will introduce legislation that would improve the quality of care and require more frequent inspections at active duty medical hospitals when the Senate reconvenes next week. The Washington Post reported this weekend that the soldiers and facilities at Walter Reed face extreme neglect – wounded soldiers taking care of other wounded, soldiers with psychological disorders attending to suicidal soldiers, and "mouse droppings, belly-up cockroaches, stained carpets, cheap mattresses" scattered throughout.

"Caring for our returning heroes is one of the things we can still get right about this war, and that's why the deterioration of the conditions at Walter Reed is both appalling and unacceptable," said U.S. Senator Barack Obama. "The brave men and women wounded at war should receive the best we have to offer and the highest quality of care, and that's why this legislation would cut red tape, improve service, and require frequent inspections of all active duty military hospitals."

----------------------------

Today the White House is singing a different tune. They are doing the right thing for our injured troops in building 18. What's sad is that it took the Washington Post to expose the truth and motivate leaders to act.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/20/AR2007022001574.html
The Post series documented tattered conditions at Building 18, including mold, rot, mice and cockroaches, but also a larger bureaucratic indifference that has impeded some soldiers' recovery.

At Building 18 yesterday, platoon sergeants with clipboards went from room to room inspecting for mold, leaks and other problems. A broken elevator was repaired, and snow and ice were cleared from the sidewalks.

Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.), former chairman of what was then known as the House Government Reform Committee, urged the committee to hold a hearing at Walter Reed to give members an "invaluable firsthand look" at how the Army is processing the wounded. "Improvements to date have been episodic, and in some case, short-lived," Davis said in a statement.

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Message Number 223159

Researching DRX 9000 View Thread
Posted by REilly on 2/21/07 at 05:12

I have also been researching the DRX 9000 and have found that the article they site with an 86% success rate was written by Thomas Gionis MD, who was sent to prison for 30 months for hiring two guys to severally assault his ex-wife and her boyfriend. Google his name. The article was also written before the machine was even cleared bby the FDA. None of the research cited had lage enoung sample to give valid results.I also did a literature review on medical data bases and could find no reasearch studies on it. I had an appoinment to check it out yesterday with the chiropractor to find out what he had to say, I got yelled at for challenging the research.For the length of time it has been in use, there should be more valid research regarding it. Also if its results were that good it would be covered by more insurance companies.
Make your decision carefully!

Result number: 50

Message Number 222762

Re: An interesting perspective on Obama. View Thread
Posted by marie on 2/16/07 at 16:55

No larryahem I can't because I don't work for the newspaper but my guess is that she's to obnoxious for the general population. How dare you compare her vitril to one sentence uttered by one member of the Dixie Chicks. There's no comparison.......

If you like her type of vitril then by all means smoochy up to her. It's a free country but for myself and thousands and thousands of Americans no thanks. She made her bed and she can sleep in it with whoever she likes.......it is what it is.

Let's review some of her vitiril shall we?......unlike one sentence she has books preaching HATRED FOR AMERICANS. Iran would certainly welcome this anti-American with open arms. Hatred 101 Ann Coulter Style.......and this is the short list.

"We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee. That's just a joke, for you in the media."

"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much." -on 9/11 widows who have been critical of the Bush administration

"We need to execute people like (John Walker Lindh) in order to physically intimidate liberals."

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity." (I wonder if Israel is on her list)

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the President."

"The swing voters -- I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster."
(that's why they don't vote for your side anymore honey)

"it's far preferable to fight [terrorists] in the streets of Baghdad than in the streets of New York (where the residents would immediately surrender)."

"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly." (some call that child abuse thank God you have none)

"I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain." (Referring to the possibility of running against a Democratic Representative)

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote." (apparently she has no respect for the voting rights act and those who died for it)

"Kwanzaa itself is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism. Indeed, the seven 'principles'of Kwanzaa praise collectivism in every possible arena of life – economics, work, personality, even litter removal."

"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal ... [The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."

"With their infernal racial set-asides, racial quotas, and race norming, liberals share many of the Klan's premises. The Klan sees the world in terms of race and ethnicity. So do liberals! Indeed, liberals and white supremacists are the only people left in America who are neurotically obsessed with race. Conservatives champion a color-blind society."

Ann Coulter: I take the biblical idea. God gave us the earth.
Democratic Strategist Peter Fenn: Oh, OK.
Coulter: We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees.
Fenn: This is a great idea.
Coulter: God says, "Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours."
Fenn: Terrific. We're Americans, so we should consume as much of the earth's resources...
Coulter: Yes! Yes.
Fenn: ... as fast as we possibly can.
Coulter: As opposed to living like the Indians.

"Anorexics never have boyfriends. ... That's one way to know you don't have anorexia: if you have a boyfriend."

"People like you caused us to lose the war." (to a disabled Vietnam Veteran)

"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote. No, they all have to give up their vote, not just, you know, the lady clapping and me. The problem with women voting -- and your Communists will back me up on this -- is that, you know, women have no capacity to understand how money is earned. They have a lot of ideas on how to spend it. And when they take these polls, it's always more money on education, more money on child care, more money on day care."

Without affirmative action, African-American Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA): couldn't get a job "that didn't involve wearing a paper hat"

"If Gore had been elected president, right now he would just be finding that last lesbian quadriplegic for the Special Forces team."

"I don't know if [former U.S. President Bill Clinton is] gay. But [former U.S. Vice President] Al Gore - total fag."

"Six imams removed from a US Airways flight from Minneapolis to Phoenix are calling on Muslims to boycott the airline. If only we could get Muslims to boycott all airlines, we could dispense with airport security altogether."

"[Canadians] better hope the United States does not roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent."

"The Episcopals (sic) don't demand much in the way of actual religious belief. They have girl priests, gay priests, gay bishops, gay marriages -- it's much like The New York Times editorial board. They acknowledge the Ten Commandments -- or "Moses' talking points" -- but hasten to add that they're not exactly "carved in stone."

(On court ordered desegregation)"Few failures have been more spectacular. Illiterate students knifing one another between acts of sodomy in the stairwell is just one of the many eggs that had to be broken to make the left's omelette of transferring power from states to the federal government."

"The Democrats are giving aid and comfort to the enemy for no purpose other than giving aid and comfort to the enemy. There is no plausible explanation for the Democrats' behavior other than that they long to see U.S. troops shot, humiliated, and driven from the field of battle. They fill the airwaves with treason, but when called to vote on withdrawing troops, disavow their own public statements. These people are not only traitors, they are gutless traitors."

"In the history of the nation, there has never been a political party so ridiculous as today's Democrats. It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc."

"The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet--it's yours. That's our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars -- that's the Biblical view."

"I would like evolution to join the roster of other discredited religions, like the Cargo Cult of the South Pacific. Practitioners of Cargo Cult believed that manufactured products were created by ancestral spirits, and if they imitated what they had seen the white man do, they could cause airplanes to appear out of the sky, bringing valuable cargo like radios and TVs. So they constructed airport towers out of bamboo and headphones out of coconuts and waited for the airplanes to come with the cargo. It may sound silly, but in defense of the Cargo Cult, they did not wait as long for evidence supporting their theory as the Darwinists have waited for evidence supporting theirs."

"They're [Democrats] always accusing us of repressing their speech. I say let's do it. Let's repress them. Frankly, I'm not a big fan of the First Amendment."

"I'd build a wall. In fact, I'd hire illegal immigrants to build the wall. And throw out the illegals who are here. [...] It's cheap labor."

"When we were fighting communism, OK, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we're up against absolutely insane savages."

"… as for catching Osama, it's irrelevant. Things are going swimmingly in Afghanistan."

"They're never very high in anyone's caste system, are they? Poor little Pakis."

VESTER: "You say you’d rather not talk to liberals at all?" COULTER: "I think a baseball bat is the most effective way these days."

"[Learning difficulties are a cover for] rich parents with dumb kids...That's why 'Pinch' Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times, is alleged to have dyslexia - because he's retarded."

"You don't want the Republicans in power, does that mean you want a dictatorship, gay boy?"

"Which brings me to this week's scandal about No Such Agency spying on 'Americans.' I have difficulty ginning up much interest in this story inasmuch as I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East, and sending liberals to Guantanamo."

"If Chicago had been hit, I assure you New Yorkers would not have cared. What was stunning when New York was hit was how the rest of America rushed to New York's defense. New Yorkers would have been like, 'It's tough for them; now let's go back to our Calvin Klein fashion shows.'"

"It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact. In fact, in every presidential election since 1950 - except Goldwater in '64 - the Republican would have won, if only the men had voted."

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."

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Message Number 222627

Re: Dixie Chicks - STRIKE 2 View Thread
Posted by john h on 2/15/07 at 11:01

I had not heard Toby Keith was criticized for his Red White and Blue. That is almost unbelievable to me and way way over the top. You have to have a real problem to complain about his music other than not liking his voice, style, or whatever. I think he is a decent patriotic American aside from his music. I have seen him on many interviews and he is a guy I would enjoy having a beer with at the local pub.

A Congressman can be sworn in using the Koran. Not only that, the Koran was from Thomas Jefferson's pesonal collection from the Library of Congress. Could a Congressman be sworn in by placing his hand on a copy of Mein Kampf? David Duke was an elected official so it would not be beyond possibility that some nut case might want to do that. I am not saying one has to use the Bible as the Bible is not the only holy book. Thomas Jefferson had the Koran as he wanted to know all he could about it as we were being attacked by Muslim Trade Slave Traders/Pirates on the Barbary Coast. They demanded we pay retribution. We did for a while and when Jefferson became President he took the Marines in and destroyed the Pirates for ever. The Marines hymm references this "From the halls of Montazuma to the shores of Trippoli". I bet the Congressman did not know the real history as to why Jefferson had the Koran or he would have used another copy. Why not his own?

Result number: 52

Message Number 222536

Re: Dixie Chicks View Thread
Posted by Rick R on 2/14/07 at 18:51

And, the Battle Hymn of the Republic was sung by the last regiment to walk off of Snodgrass Hill, 104th Illinois after Thomas and countless individuals acting on their own accord saved the western Union army at Chickamauga. Now there's an obscure detail for you.

I'm not going to stop listening to Pete Seeger because he's a communist so I still plan on listening to the Dixie Chicks. Thank God they are free to criticize and others are free to boycott. It's a great country. How about those wacky Jacobites, some great passionate music but some pretty brutal folks.

Let the band play Dixie,

Rick

(yes, stolen from Lincoln)

Result number: 53

Message Number 221660

United States of America Department of Labor View Thread
Posted by marie on 2/06/07 at 09:11

As far as source for my info goes in my previous post....go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ to look up the bills or is using responsible sources out of your realm of abilities? You can look up any of the promises made pre election here: http://www.democrats.org/ Please let me know if you don't understand any of the big college words and I will do my best to assist you.

John's unsited perscentages.......
"The stock market is at an all time high. The unemployment rate is around 4.5% when most economist consider 7% to be full employment as people are constantly moving from one job to another. I sure remember 16-17% treasury bonds and even at that I was afraid to buy them as we had runaway inflation under Jimmy Carter. More people own their own homes than ever before. Interest rates are running around 5% and inflation has been well under control for some years. All of our politicans are afraid to touch the third rail of Social Security even the Democrats."

Like I said before Republicans look around in their own space and say "life is good" but we know that is not true for the Midwest. The Midwest will break and go blue. Republicans fail to see the big picture. Any politician or political junkie understands that the Midwest will cost Republicans dearly.

John does not site a source for his figures so let me help blind Republicans a little. John sites the national average but the national average won't be electing the president. Electorial from each state determines the election. The key states will be in the Midwest. Some parts of the Midwest are doing a little better but not enough has been done. http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.us.htm

My source is the United States of America's Department of Labor: Bureau of Labor Statistics: http://www.bls.gov/

Labor stats as of Dec. 2006. New stats are forthcoming for the month of January. The stats Most unemployment rates listed have been steadily rising since last May and a few haven't changed at all. It'll be interesting to see what it looks like for jan. 2007.....with Ford and GM calling for massive layoffs.

I won't post them all but lets take a snapshot of Michigan, Ohio, Indiana unemployment rate........

Michigan
Detroit-Livonia-Dearborn, MI: 8.3% unemployment rate
Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI: 7.2 unemployment rate
Grand Rapids-Wyoming, MI: 5.8 % unemployment rate
Battle Creek, MI: 6.5% unemployment rate
Jackson, MI: 7.3% unemployment rate
Warren-Troy-Farmington Hills, MI: 6.4% unemployment rate
Flint, MI: 7.8% unemployment rate
Niles-Benton Harbor, MI: 7.0% unemployment rate
Ann Arbor, MI: 4.4% unemployment rate (Interesting that the LIBERAL college town has the lowest ue rate in Michigan)

Ohio
Toledo, OH: 6.0% unemployment rate
Akron, OH: 5.3% unemployment rate
Canton-Massillon, OH: 5.7% unemployment rate
Lima, OH: 6.5% unemployment rate
Youngstown-Warren-Boardman, OH-PA: 6.0% unemployment rate
Dayton, OH: 5.7% unemployment rate
Parkersburg-Marietta-Vienna, WV-OH: 5.1% unemployment rate
Weirton-Steubenville, WV-OH: 6.8% unemployment rate
Wheeling, WV-OH: 5.0% unemployment rate
Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH: 5.3% unemployment rate
Sandusky, OH: 6.6% unemployment rate
Springfield, OH: 5.7% unemployment rate
Mansfield, OH: 6.4% unemployment rate
Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN: 4.8% unemployment rate

Indiana
Anderson, IN: 5.5% unemployment rate
Terre Haute, IN: 5.6% unemployment rate
Kokomo, IN: 5.5% unemployment rate
Muncie, IN: 5.4% unemployment rate
Michigan City-La Porte, IN: 5.5% unemployment rate
South Bend-Mishawaka, IN-MI: 5.0% unemployment rate

Now if Republicans think they are going to win Ohio with those stats they are wearing blinders. Cinci was the only area with a reasonable unemployment rate.

From their Mass Layoff statistics:
Extended Mass Layoffs Associated with Domestic and Overseas Relocations, First Quarter 2004
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/reloc.txt
"The Midwest accounted for the largest proportion of workers in extended mass layoff events associated with the movement of work (34 percent) in the first quarter of 2004, followed by the South (31 percent), the West (27 per-cent), and the Northeast (8 percent). (See table 3.) For all extended mass layoff events, separations were concentrated in the West (43 percent), followed by the Midwest (29 percent), the South (16 percent), and the Northeast
(12 percent)."

They have not released a new report since 2004 although they are required to by law. Wonder why?

Lets take a closer look at Manufacturing which comprises 11% of all employment. My source: The United States of America Department of Labor.



Wow this is absolutely unexcusable.........Note the immediate decline after the year 2000......when Bush took over.
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?&series_id=CEU3000000003

Here is a table to watch as an indicator of the health of the Manufacturing Industry. The latest unemployment rate is UP not down to 5.0% for Jan. 2007.
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=LNU04000000

Now lets take a peek at the Automotive industry, the heartbeat of the Midwest and see how their stocks are doing.......

Ford Motor Company
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=F&x=65&y=12
Today it's at $8.33 a share
Dec. 2000 it was $18.96 fluctuating around 20.00 per share
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=F&a=00&b=3&c=2000&d=01&e=6&f=2007&g=m&z=66&y=66

General Motors
Today it's at 32.71 a share
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GM
Dec. 2000 it was 38.53 fluctuating around 40.00 per share

Check out April 2000 it was at 69.21........dang that Bill Clinton!!!!

Have a nice day. Stay warm and remember Republicans to wear a hat, scarf and your blinders before leaving home.

Result number: 54

Message Number 220806

Re: 25 Rules for being a good Democrat View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 1/26/07 at 21:24

Rules For Being A Good Democrat

To be a Democrat, you have to believe that

1. The AIDS virus is spread by a lack of funding

2. Guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear, chemical and biological weapons in the hands of Saddam Hussein.

3. The NRA is a bad organization because it stands up for certain parts of the Constitution, but the ACLU is a good organization because it stands up for certain parts of the Constitution.

4. Standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas are not.

5. Passing new laws are a much better way to curb crime than enforcing the existing ones.

6) You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.

7) You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-bidding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.

8) You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

9) You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.

10) You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.

11) You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

12) You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

13) You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.

14) You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

15) You have to believe that the military, not corrupt politicians start wars.

16) You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

17) You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

18) You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E.Lee, and Thomas Edison.

19) You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

20) You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.

21) You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.

22) You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.

23) You have to believe that homosexual marriages and parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

24) You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese government is somehow in the best interest to the United States.

25) You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.
__________________

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Message Number 219687

Re: Threat Level: Red "Severe" View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 1/14/07 at 00:06

Oh come on; Rush is just a harmless lovable little fuzzball:

Quotations from talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh

With talent on loan from God.
The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit.
I don't consider myself an offensive guy. I am just a harmless lovable little fuzzball.
Enraging liberals is simply one of the more enjoyable side effects of my wisdom

On Taxes
If Thomas Jefferson thought taxation without representation was bad, he should see how it is with representation.

On Bias
I don't need equal time, I am equal time!

Result number: 56

Message Number 219374

Amount of night-splint dorsiflexion View Thread
Posted by ThomasR on 1/11/07 at 00:43

I have not found anyone willing to offer an informed opinion about adjusting the angle of dorsiflexion in a night-splint. Surely there must be some guidelines or rules-of-thumb to help someone decide how far to pull the foot toward the leg.

I have noted some benefits from the night-splint I purchased from heelspurs.com, but want to set this angle using a rational approach. I am not content to merely use the angle set when it was shipped to me.

Yes, I saw the stickers on the product warning the consumer to consult a physician before adjusting this angle. That won't work for me. I teach at a medical school, and allow residents to rotate through my neurophysiology lab. I want to empirically determine the optimal settings for me, but prefer a systematic approach -- based on some principle. Thanks, in advance, for any advice you may have to offer.

Result number: 57

Message Number 219277

Adjusting a night splint View Thread
Posted by ThomasR on 1/10/07 at 09:29

Hello from a newbie here. I purchased an adjustable night splint, and I notice some relief when I get up in the morning.

Will someone please tell me if there are guidelines on how to set the angle of the splint (how much should the foot be flexed toward the leg)????

Thanks, in advance, Tom.

Result number: 58

Message Number 218918

Re: NEWEST MEDICATION FOR TTS AND NEUROPATHY View Thread
Posted by Vern S on 1/05/07 at 10:34

Thomas-
Am curious if you are diabetic or known to be B vitamin deficient?
Thanks for sharing.

Result number: 59

Message Number 218876

Re: NEWEST MEDICATION FOR TTS AND NEUROPATHY View Thread
Posted by Thomas Hanson on 1/04/07 at 15:24

I have suffered from neuropathy in my feet for several years as well as TTS and CTS. When the heavy line was dragged across the bottom of my feet I felt no sensation at all. I have taken Metanx for two months now and the feeling has returned to the underside of my feet to the point of being very 'ticklish'. Pain levels have reduced to the point that I no longer limp and while I found no reference to CTS my thumbs are no longer aching. This may be coincidence but I do not think so.
Thomas Hanson

Result number: 60

Message Number 218614

Re: Dorothy's insults View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 1/01/07 at 11:17

Dorothy:

I am not going to continue engaging in your insult contest. I will concede the contest to you as you seem to be able to go deeper into the sewer to concoct your attack diatribes than almost anyone I can think of.

"Well, Ed, at long last you are correct. Your brilliance, originality, eloquence, insight, and vast knowledge about - well, about EVERYTHING, have overwhelmed me. Let's see: you have called me a Nazi, an anti-Semite, stupid, a pestilence, venomous, an attack dog, a sad person with imaginary bogeymen, irrational, incoherent, schizophrenic, and a person who does not create paragraphs that you can follow. There are many more of your comments of this ilk but these will do for now. I believe I might have you for slander, Eddie."

You "might" have slander for me. What do you think you have been doing all along. Look at the history of your recent posts and see exactly who started the malevolent posts. I venture an opinion on issues many of which you do not like. You do not debate those issues but prefer instead to launch personal attacks.

"PARAGRAPH - I hope that helps you,eddie. It is designated for any illiterati who might be attempting to read colorful and witty discourse without realizing it, a person who, for example, was born without any humor or wit or art at all because his Ego took up all available space in his little body. Such beings must take care not to gag on their huge ego; unfortunately, others can also gag on that same huge ego, it's just SO huge. You see the problem..."

The pot calling the kettle black. You have never displayed any ability to either understand humor no have you posted any on this site. Talk about ego. Any post that goes against your set of beleifs appears to be an attack on your ego so you immediately attack the individual as opposed to the ideas the individual posts.

"PARAGRAPH: Before mulling any delicious slander idea, I will answer your question: There was a poster within the past week or so who wrote that he/she tried to contact you at the office of your practice and was told that you were on a leave of absence (I don't have his/her post at hand but that was the gist of it. I know we're all supposed to remember posts to and from you much better than this, but.. sorry). It was some form of official absence. He asked you if he could contact you some other way, as I recall. I don't recall your response (oh, I am sorry; I do try to memorize your words, but there are so many "links" and all the right-wing balderdash just confuses little ole me) but it might have had to do with suggesting that he get down on his knees and put his hands together, bow his head, and incant: eddie, oh, eddie.... can you hear me, eddie. Please, eddie, tell me what you think."

A diatribe in a paragraph. You have really outdone yourself on this one. The issue here is the relevance of this poster's contact to the issue at hand. You scan the site to find anything trivial that you can use to badger your bogeyman.

"PARAGRAPH: The real question is - how would your erstwhile office staff be able to discern whether you were on a leave of absence or not, since you are, and have been in the past, always on this website. Wouldn't patients mind if their podiatrist were simultaneously removing corns and callouses and trimming toenails while also posting nasty remarks on this website to Dorothy, to Julie, to Scott, to Pauline, to Marie, and I don’t even remember who all else? Didn't any of them ever ask, "Who you calling a Nazi and anti-Semite today, Dr. Ed?"

Dorothy, do you actually work for a living? Or do you live in a self imposed fantasy world on the net, beleiving that sites like this are your personal domain to protect from imaginary bogeyman.

"PARAGRAPH: It is one thing to make slanderous, defamatory comments to another poster, eddie, but you crossed the line when you wrote: "You have established bogeymen that you seem to enjoy attacking. You do so at the national level with certain leaders such as Nixon and Bush." No, no, eddie; I did not "establish them as bogeymen...". They are not bogeymen, eddie. They are real people. Maybe your mother, Mrs. Haskell, tried to protect you by telling you that they were just imaginary bogeymen, but eddie, it’s time you knew: they are real."

The truth hurts does it not Dorothy? Obviously, based on what you have written above, you do not know what a bogeyman is. Look it up. Yes they are real people but you have villified them to the extent that you see them as large than life evils that seem to preoccupy your thinking. You can only see in black and white. You are fixated on the villification of specific individuals on your enemies list to the exclusion of others. Unfortunately, you have appeared to place me on your enemies list years ago and there obvioously is nothing that I can say or do that you cannot ascribe some diabolical motive to.

"PARAGRAPH: If you are, in fact, Jewish as you claim – although it seems to me that you have also made other references in the far past to some other religious affiliations that were not Jewish - it is surprising that you would defend Nixon as you do and to "link" us all to what was apparently his ridiculous "Checkers" speech, or was it the "you don't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore..." speech? Or was it the unctuous speech about that pathetic Pat Nixon and her cloth coat? Who knows what you find endearing! I don't read your links. Anyway, (oh, dear, I bet I should have said PARAGRAPH for you somewhere in here. Oh dear, oh dear. Well, eddie, I would advise you to steer clear of James Joyce and William Faulkner, for starters; they would boggle your little mind...) Anyway, eddie, where was I- oh, yes, annoying the heck out of you, I hope. That you, a person who claims to be Jewish, would defend that inveterate anti-Semitic Tricky Dick (have you listened to his tapes, eddie? oh, he was a charmer after your own heart.... a weasel and an Eddie Haskell of the first order), is amazing. If I recall correctly, his taped comments on Jews, on African-Americans, on dissenters of any sort, on peace activists, on that American hero Helen Thomas, on - well just about anybody that questioned his own imperial highness, were not very nice, eddie. Maybe you relate to his imperial highness and thus you defend him. And Bush? Well, in one of your edifying (?Ed Defying?) posts, you seemed to be implying that you are not a Bush supporter. Now you excoriate me for what you call an “attack” on him. Gosh, Eddie, (PARAGRAPH): you seem to be not making sense. Upset, are we? PARAGRAPH. PARAGRAPH. PARAGRAPH."

I am not making sense? Re-read your own paragraph above. Again, your are so fixated on black and white thinking that you can see nothing else. I have attempted to place Nixon's misdeeds into perspective. He did a number of negative things and a number of positive things. You are only viewing the negative. He and your other bogeyman cease to become real people but "devils" that fulfill some need you have yet undefined. Perhaps becasue you are not religious (which is no reason to bash my religious beleifs) you need to create your own demons. I did not vote for Bush in 2000 recognizing his shortcomings. He has made a number of mistakes. I will defend him to the extent he has done good things or at least attempted to do so. Legitimate criticisms of his policies are one thing but the types of critiques that do nothing but villify the man are something else. Unfortunately, you can only seem to do the latter. Why do you not criticize Bill Clinton? He had a lot more scandals in his 8 years as President than Nixon had in his lifetime. I guess it is because you have not decided to place Clinton on your enemies list, that is, the list of people that you chose to demonize.

"" Popping a cork, am I? Well, Mr. Ed, if you mean in the celebratory sense, I could be if I knew that I was really getting your goat. I really find arrogant, self-important gasbags to be insufferable. On this note, eddie, I think I will now begin to again ignore your posts. Feel free to do the same with mine. This is a waste of life’s gift of breath and thought. It’s an amusing exercise to annoy you, but not that amusing. In truth, I AM starting to feel a little bullying because annoying you is starting to feel like poking an armadillo - curious at first, but then you just start to feel mean for picking on a riled up little critter. In spite of what you spew, it's not my style. So, I will ignore your posts, and your goat, too. You'll have to play by yourself from now on ... or is that the wrong preposition?"

Ignoring posts that you do not like has always been an option here and on ay other web site. If that works for you, by all means, please ignore my posts.

Result number: 61

Message Number 218379

Do you think... View Thread
Posted by marie on 12/30/06 at 11:34

Saddam's execution will turn a corner for Iraq? I hope so, but I have my doubts. Saddam more then deserved the death sentence, which in general I am cautious to suppot, but in Saddam's case he clearly caused, ordered or committed murder of 100's of Iraqis. A death sentence was justified.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061230/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saddam
"First it was weapons of mass destruction. Then when there were none, it was that we had to find Saddam. We did that, but then it was that we had to put him on trial," said Spc. Thomas Sheck, 25, who is on his second tour in Iraq. "So now, what will be the next story they tell us to keep us over here?"

Result number: 62

Message Number 218358

Re: Dorothy's monologues View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 12/30/06 at 01:54

Well, Ed, at long last you are correct. Your brilliance, originality, eloquence, insight, and vast knowledge about - well, about EVERYTHING, have overwhelmed me. Let's see: you have called me a Nazi, an anti-Semite, stupid, a pestilence, venomous, an attack dog, a sad person with imaginary bogeymen, irrational, incoherent, schizophrenic, and a person who does not create paragraphs that you can follow. There are many more of your comments of this ilk but these will do for now. I believe I might have you for slander, Eddie.

PARAGRAPH - I hope that helps you,eddie. It is designated for any illiterati who might be attempting to read colorful and witty discourse without realizing it, a person who, for example, was born without any humor or wit or art at all because his Ego took up all available space in his little body. Such beings must take care not to gag on their huge ego; unfortunately, others can also gag on that same huge ego, it's just SO huge. You see the problem...

PARAGRAPH: Before mulling any delicious slander idea, I will answer your question: There was a poster within the past week or so who wrote that he/she tried to contact you at the office of your practice and was told that you were on a leave of absence (I don't have his/her post at hand but that was the gist of it. I know we're all supposed to remember posts to and from you much better than this, but.. sorry). It was some form of official absence. He asked you if he could contact you some other way, as I recall. I don't recall your response (oh, I am sorry; I do try to memorize your words, but there are so many "links" and all the right-wing balderdash just confuses little ole me) but it might have had to do with suggesting that he get down on his knees and put his hands together, bow his head, and incant: eddie, oh, eddie.... can you hear me, eddie. Please, eddie, tell me what you think.

PARAGRAPH: The real question is - how would your erstwhile office staff be able to discern whether you were on a leave of absence or not, since you are, and have been in the past, always on this website. Wouldn't patients mind if their podiatrist were simultaneously removing corns and callouses and trimming toenails while also posting nasty remarks on this website to Dorothy, to Julie, to Scott, to Pauline, to Marie, and I don’t even remember who all else? Didn't any of them ever ask, "Who you calling a Nazi and anti-Semite today, Dr. Ed?"

PARAGRAPH: It is one thing to make slanderous, defamatory comments to another poster, eddie, but you crossed the line when you wrote: "You have established bogeymen that you seem to enjoy attacking. You do so at the national level with certain leaders such as Nixon and Bush." No, no, eddie; I did not "establish them as bogeymen...". They are not bogeymen, eddie. They are real people. Maybe your mother, Mrs. Haskell, tried to protect you by telling you that they were just imaginary bogeymen, but eddie, it’s time you knew: they are real.

PARAGRAPH: If you are, in fact, Jewish as you claim – although it seems to me that you have also made other references in the far past to some other religious affiliations that were not Jewish - it is surprising that you would defend Nixon as you do and to "link" us all to what was apparently his ridiculous "Checkers" speech, or was it the "you don't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore..." speech? Or was it the unctuous speech about that pathetic Pat Nixon and her cloth coat? Who knows what you find endearing! I don't read your links. Anyway, (oh, dear, I bet I should have said PARAGRAPH for you somewhere in here. Oh dear, oh dear. Well, eddie, I would advise you to steer clear of James Joyce and William Faulkner, for starters; they would boggle your little mind...) Anyway, eddie, where was I- oh, yes, annoying the heck out of you, I hope. That you, a person who claims to be Jewish, would defend that inveterate anti-Semitic Tricky Dick (have you listened to his tapes, eddie? oh, he was a charmer after your own heart.... a weasel and an Eddie Haskell of the first order), is amazing. If I recall correctly, his taped comments on Jews, on African-Americans, on dissenters of any sort, on peace activists, on that American hero Helen Thomas, on - well just about anybody that questioned his own imperial highness, were not very nice, eddie. Maybe you relate to his imperial highness and thus you defend him. And Bush? Well, in one of your edifying (?Ed Defying?) posts, you seemed to be implying that you are not a Bush supporter. Now you excoriate me for what you call an “attack” on him. Gosh, Eddie, (PARAGRAPH): you seem to be not making sense. Upset, are we? PARAGRAPH. PARAGRAPH. PARAGRAPH.

PARAGRAPH: Popping a cork, am I? Well, Mr. Ed, if you mean in the celebratory sense, I could be if I knew that I was really getting your goat. I really find arrogant, self-important gasbags to be insufferable. On this note, eddie, I think I will now begin to again ignore your posts. Feel free to do the same with mine. This is a waste of life’s gift of breath and thought. It’s an amusing exercise to annoy you, but not that amusing. In truth, I AM starting to feel a little bullying because annoying you is starting to feel like poking an armadillo - curious at first, but then you just start to feel mean for picking on a riled up little critter. In spite of what you spew, it's not my style. So, I will ignore your posts, and your goat, too. You'll have to play by yourself from now on ... or is that the wrong preposition?
END OF PARAGRAPH.

Result number: 63

Message Number 218280

Another side to the story......anti-Semite or anti-intellectual? View Thread
Posted by marie on 12/29/06 at 11:06

"Carter's misuse of word "apartheid" may be offensive to African-Americans."

In an effort to continue to present both sides in response to one sided constant postings I offer additonal links that present both points of view and some that are opposite of other's presented here. I can relate to some of these articles as I was defamed for simply wishing to listen to BOTH sides.

Here are some links with a short quote from each one.....I did not get these off Free Republic or any other bias type of site.

http://www.gloucestertimes.com/opinion/local_story_363094606?keyword=topstory
From the reaction to his latest book, "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid," you'd think former President Jimmy Carter had poked a stick in a hornets' nest. While the book has been well-received elsewhere, its provocative title (which is all most of his critics appear to have read) has stirred up outrage and condemnation among the organizations and their spokespeople who champion American support for Israel at any cost and are quick to label anyone an anti-Semitic liar who questions Israel's actions.
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This link is more of a rant then an objective point of view but worth a read.
http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/articles/2006/12/27/news/local/acover1222.txt
But not every Jewish voice is raised against Carter's Palestine. Clevelander Alan Federman, a member of Tikkun, dismisses criticisms by Foxman/Dershowitz/et al. “I would encourage people to read Carter's book with an open mind,”

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From the Jerusalem Post titled: Why Jimmy Carter is not an anti-Semite
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1164881982714&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
But with the publication of Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, his ignorant rant against Israel, many in the American Jewish community believe that Carter is not just a loser but an anti-Semite. I disagree.

Jimmy Carter is not so much anti-Semite as anti-intellectual, not so much a Jew-hater as a boor. The real explanation behind his limitless hostility to Israel is a total lack of any moral understanding.

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The Ludicrous Attacks on Jimmy Carter's Book by NORMAN FINKELSTEIN
http://www.counterpunch.org/finkelstein12282006.html
The shrill reaction to Carter's mention of apartheid is probably due not only to the term's emotive resonances but its legal-political implications as well. According to Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Conventions as well as the Statute of the International Criminal Court, "practices of apartheid" constitute war crimes. Small wonder, then, that despite--or, rather, because of--its aptness, Carter is being bullied into repudiating the term.

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A Palestinian view of Jimmy Carter's book
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=11729
The 39th president of the United States, the most successful Arab- Israeli peace negotiator to date, has braved a storm of criticism, including the insinuation from the pro-Israel Anti-Defamation League that his arguments are anti-Semitic.

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http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m29297
...in reference to the segregation of Palestinians by Israel's apartheid wall, Carter writes (with a straight face I assume), "I have made it clear that the motivation is not racism but the desire of a minority of Israelis to confiscate and colonize choice sites in Palestine, and then to forcefully suppress any objections from the displaced citizens."
This statement is breathtakingly surreal. We are expected to believe that even though the segregation of Palestinians in the West Bank is based solely on their racial and ethnic origin, somehow this particular version of apartheid isn't racism. Instead, it's only the confiscation and colonization of their land and resources.

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From the blogosphere BOTH sides presented.......
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2006/12/camera-to-simon-and-schuster-correct.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/the-world-according-to-ji_b_34702.html
http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/2006/12/jimmy_carters_new_book.html
http://gotv.blogspot.com/2006/12/jimmy-carter-and-brandeis.html
http://mondoweiss.observer.com/2006/12/jimmy-carter-on-mission.html
http://tonykaron.com/2006/12/22/israel-and-apartheid-in-defense-of-jimmy-carter/
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Emory_anthropology_professor_slams_Jimmy_Carter
http://mschick.blogspot.com/2006/12/anti-semites-everywhere.html
http://wattenblog.blogspot.com/2006/12/arnold-biechman-jimmy-carter.html
http://amechad.blogspot.com/2006/12/this-article-is-awesome-solution-to.html
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/news.php/2006/12/29/congress_should_listen_to_former_preside

Result number: 64

Message Number 218229

Re: Woodward kept silent until Ford passed away..... View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 12/29/06 at 01:34

What impeachable offense has Bush done? You cannot impeach a President because you do not agree with his policies.

Nixon was a Boy Scout compared to Bill Clinton. Nixon was under a lot of scrutiny due to his poor relations with the press. Nevertheless, the Watergate break in was small change compared to all of Clinton's shenanigans -- Travelgate; Monica Lewinski, Jennifer Flowers and a whole host of sexual indiscretions; the Whitewater scandal, etc.

Clinton set the all time record for scandals. The following is a tabulation of the Clinton scandal record from the Progressive Review (not a conservative publication -- although if you want more I can go there):

The Clinton Legacy


The Progressive Review


This list was compiled at the end of the Clinton administration.


Our Clinton Scandal Index


RECORDS SET

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

* According to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate. A reader computes that there was a total of 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned. A key difference between the Clinton story and earlier ones was the number of criminals with whom he was associated before entering the White House.

Using a far looser standard that included resignations, David R. Simon and D. Stanley Eitzen in Elite Deviance, say that 138 appointees of the Reagan administration either resigned under an ethical cloud or were criminally indicted. Curiously Haynes Johnson uses the same figure but with a different standard in "Sleep-Walking Through History: America in the Reagan Years: "By the end of his term, 138 administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."


STARR-RAY INVESTIGATION

- Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions or guilty pleas (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 14
- Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5
- Number of Reagan cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 4
- Number of top officials jailed in the Teapot Dome Scandal: 3

CRIME STATS

- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122

SMALTZ INVESTIGATION

- Guilty pleas and convictions obtained by Donald Smaltz in cases involving charges of bribery and fraud against former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy and associated individuals and businesses: 15
- Acquitted or overturned cases (including Espy): 6
- Fines and penalties assessed: $11.5 million
- Amount Tyson Food paid in fines and court costs: $6 million

CLINTON MACHINE CRIMES
FOR WHICH CONVICTIONS
HAVE BEEN OBTAINED

Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.

OTHER MATTERS INVESTIGATED BY SPECIAL PROSECUTORS
AND CONGRESS, OR REPORTED IN THE MEDIA

Bank and mail fraud, violations of campaign finance laws, illegal foreign campaign funding, improper exports of sensitive technology, physical violence and threats of violence, solicitation of perjury, intimidation of witnesses, bribery of witnesses, attempted intimidation of prosecutors, perjury before congressional committees, lying in statements to federal investigators and regulatory officials, flight of witnesses, obstruction of justice, bribery of cabinet members, real estate fraud, tax fraud, drug trafficking, failure to investigate drug trafficking, bribery of state officials, use of state police for personal purposes, exchange of promotions or benefits for sexual favors, using state police to provide false court testimony, laundering of drug money through a state agency, false reports by medical examiners and others investigating suspicious deaths, the firing of the RTC and FBI director when these agencies were investigating Clinton and his associates, failure to conduct autopsies in suspicious deaths, providing jobs in return for silence by witnesses, drug abuse, improper acquisition and use of 900 FBI files, improper futures trading, murder, sexual abuse of employees, false testimony before a federal judge, shredding of documents, withholding and concealment of subpoenaed documents, fabricated charges against (and improper firing of) White House employees, inviting drug traffickers, foreign agents and participants in organized crime to the White House.

ARKANSAS ALTZHEIMER'S

Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.

Bill Kennedy 116
Harold Ickes 148
Ricki Seidman 160
Bruce Lindsey 161
Bill Burton 191
Mark Gearan 221
Mack McLarty 233
Neil Egglseston 250
Hillary Clinton 250
John Podesta 264
Jennifer O'Connor 343
Dwight Holton 348
Patsy Thomasson 420
Jeff Eller 697

FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton's Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times. This is a list of his answers and how many times he gave each one.

I don't remember - 71
I don't know - 62
I'm not sure - 17
I have no idea - 10
I don't believe so - 9
I don't recall - 8
I don't think so - 8
I don't have any specific recollection - 6
I have no recollection - 4
Not to my knowledge - 4
I just don't remember - 4
I don't believe - 4
I have no specific recollection - 3
I might have - 3
I don't have any recollection of that - 2 I don't have a specific memory - 2
I don't have any memory of that - 2
I just can't say - 2
I have no direct knowledge of that - 2
I don't have any idea - 2
Not that I recall - 2
I don't believe I did - 2
I can't remember - 2
I can't say - 2
I do not remember doing so - 2
Not that I remember - 2
I'm not aware - 1
I honestly don't know - 1
I don't believe that I did - 1
I'm fairly sure - 1
I have no other recollection - 1
I'm not positive - 1
I certainly don't think so - 1
I don't really remember - 1
I would have no way of remembering that - 1
That's what I believe happened - 1
To my knowledge, no - 1
To the best of my knowledge - 1
To the best of my memory - 1
I honestly don't recall - 1
I honestly don't remember - 1
That's all I know - 1
I don't have an independent recollection of that - 1
I don't actually have an independent memory of that - 1
As far as I know - 1
I don't believe I ever did that - 1
That's all I know about that - 1
I'm just not sure - 1
Nothing that I remember - 1
I simply don't know - 1
I would have no idea - 1
I don't know anything about that - 1
I don't have any direct knowledge of that - 1
I just don't know - 1
I really don't know - 1
I can't deny that, I just -- I have no memory of that at all - 1

THE CLINTON LEGACY:
LONELY HONOR

Here are some of the all too rare public officials, reporters, and others who spoke truth to the dismally corrupt power of Bill and Hill Clinton's political machine -- some at risk to their careers, others at risk to their lives. A few points to note:

- Those corporatist media reporters who attempted to report the story often found themselves muzzled; some even lost their jobs. The only major dailies that consistently handled the story well were the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Times.

- Nobody on this list has gotten rich and many you may not have even heard of. Taking on the Clintons typically has not been a happy or rewarding experience. At least ten reporters have been fired, transferred off their beats, resigned, or otherwise gotten into trouble because of their work on the scandals. Whistleblowing is even less appreciated within the government. One study of whistleblowers found that 232 out of 233 them reported suffering retaliation; another study found reprisals in about 95% of cases.

- Contrary to the popular impression, the politics of those listed ranges from the left to the right, and from the ideological to the independent.


PUBLIC OFFICIALS

MIGUEL RODRIGUEZ was a prosecutor on the staff of Kenneth Starr. His attempts to uncover the truth in the Vincent Foster death case were repeatedly foiled and he was the subject of planted stories undermining his credibility and implying that he was unstable. Rodriguez eventually resigned.

JEAN DUFFEY: Head of a joint federal-county drug task force in Arkansas. Her first instructions from her boss: "Jean, you are not to use the drug task force to investigate any public official." Duffey's work, however, led deep into the heart of the Dixie Mafia, including members of the Clinton machine and the investigation of the so-called "train deaths." Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports that when she produced a star witness who could testify to Clinton's involvement with cocaine, the local prosecuting attorney, Dan Harmon issued a subpoena for all the task force records, including "the incriminating files on his own activities. If Duffey had complied it would have exposed 30 witnesses and her confidential informants to violent retributions. She refused." Harmon issued a warrant for her arrest and friendly cops told her that there was a $50,000 price on her head. She eventually fled to Texas. The once-untouchable Harmon was later convicted of racketeering, extortion and drug dealing.

BILL DUNCAN: An IRS investigator in Arkansas who drafted some 30 federal indictments of Arkansas figures on money laundering and other charges. Clinton biographer Roger Morris quotes a source who reviewed the evidence: "Those indictments were a real slam dunk if there ever was one." The cases were suppressed, many in the name of "national security." Duncan was never called to testify. Other IRS agents and state police disavowed Duncan and turned on him. Said one source, "Somebody outside ordered it shut down and the walls went up."

RUSSELL WELCH: An Arkansas state police detective working with Duncan. Welch developed a 35-volume, 3,000 page archive on drug and money laundering operations at Mena. His investigation was so compromised that a high state police official even let one of the targets of the probe look through the file. At one point, Welch was sprayed in the face with poison, later identified by the Center for Disease Control as anthrax. He would write in his diary, "I feel like I live in Russia, waiting for the secret police to pounce down. A government has gotten out of control. Men find themselves in positions of power and suddenly crimes become legal." Welch is no longer with the state police.

DAN SMALTZ: Smaltz did an outstanding job investigating and prosecuting charges involving illegal payoffs to Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy, yet was treated with disparaging and highly inaccurate reporting by the likes of the David Broder and the NY Times. Espy was acquitted under a law that made it necessary to not only prove that he accepted gratuities but that he did something specific in return. On the other hand, Tyson Foods copped a plea in the same case, paying $6 million in fines and serving four years' probation. The charge: that Tyson had illegally offered Espy $12,000 in airplane rides, football tickets and other payoffs. In the Espy investigation, Smaltz obtained 15 convictions and collected over $11 million in fines and civil penalties. Offenses for which convictions were obtained included false statements, concealing money from prohibited sources, illegal gratuities, illegal contributions, falsifying records, interstate transportation of stolen property, money laundering, and illegal receipt of USDA subsidies. Incidentally, Janet Reno blocked Smaltz from pursuing leads aimed at allegations of major drug trafficking in Arkansas and payoffs to the then governor of the state, WJ Clinton. Espy had become Ag secretary only after being flown to Arkansas to get the approval of chicken king Don Tyson.

DAVID SCHIPPERS was House impeachment counsel and a Chicago Democrat. He did a highly creditable job but since he didn't fit the right-wing conspiracy theory, the Clintonista media downplayed his work. Thus most Americans don't know that he told NewsMax, "Let me tell you, if we had a chance to put on a case, I would have put live witnesses before the committee. But the House leadership, and I'm not talking about Henry Hyde, they just killed us as far as time was concerned. I begged them to let me take it into this year. Then I screamed for witnesses before the Senate. But there was nothing anybody could do to get those Senators to show any courage. They told us essentially, you're not going to get 67 votes so why are you wasting our time." Schippers also said that while a number of representatives looked at additional evidence kept under seal in a nearby House building, not a single senator did.

JOHN CLARKE: When Patrick Knowlton stopped to relieve himself in Ft. Marcy Park 70 minutes before the discovery of Vince Foster's body, he saw things that got him into deep trouble. His interview statements were falsified and prior to testifying he claims he was overtly harassed by more than a score of men in a classic witness intimidation technique. In some cases there were witnesses. John Clarke has been his dogged lawyer in the witness intimidation case that has been largely ignored by the media, even when the three-judge panel overseeing the Starr investigation permitted Knowlton to append a 20 page addendum to the Starr Report.


OTHER

THE ARKANSAS COMMITTEE: What would later be known as the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy actually began on the left - as a group of progressive students at the University of Arkansas had formed the Arkansas Committee to look into Mena, drugs, money laundering, and Arkansas politics. This committee was the source of some of the important early Clinton stories including those published in the Progressive Review.

CLINTON ADMINISTRATION SCANDALS E-LIST: Moderated by Ray Heizer, this list has been subject to all the idiosyncrasies of Internet bulletin boards, but it has nonetheless proved invaluable to researchers and journalists.


JOURNALISTS

JERRY SEPER of the Washington Times was far and away the best beat reporter of the story, handling it week after week in the best tradition of investigative journalism. If other reporters had followed Seper's lead, the history of the Clintons' machine might have been quite different.

AMBROSE EVANS-PRITCHARD of the London Telegraph did a remarkable job of digging into some of the seamiest tales from Arkansas and the Clinton past. Other early arrivals on the scene were Alexander Cockburn and Jeff Gerth.

CHRISTOPHER RUDDY, among other fine reports on the Clinton scandals, did the best job laying out the facts in the Vince Foster death case.

ROGER MORRIS AND SALLY DENTON wrote a major expose of events at Mena, but at the last moment the Washington Post's brass ordered the story killed. It was published by Penthouse and later included in Morris' "Partners in Power," the best biography of the Clintons.

OTHERS who helped get parts of the story out included reporters Philip Weiss, Carl Limbacher, Wes Phelan, David Bresnahan, William Sammon, Liza Myers, Mara Leveritt, Matt Drudge, Jim Ridgeway, Nat Hentoff, Michael Isikoff, Christopher Hitchens, and Michael Kelly. Also independent investigator Hugh Sprunt and former White House FBI agent Gary Aldrich.

SAM SMITH of the Progressive Review wrote the first book (Shadows of Hope, University of Indiana Press, 1994) deconstructing the Clinton myth and the Review developed a major database on the topic.

The Clintons, to adapt a line from Dr. Johnson, were not only corrupt, they were the cause of corruption in others. Seldom in America have so many come to excuse so much mendacity and malfeasance as during the Clinton years.

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Message Number 217129

Gitmo guards abused by prisoners View Thread
Posted by larrym on 12/13/06 at 14:10

Officers say U.S. soldiers ‘abused’ by al Qaeda inmates

In this photo, reviewed by a U.S. Dept of Defense official, one detainee leads a group as they bow during Islamic prayer, at Camp Delta detention center, Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base in Cuba on Dec. 4. (AP Photo/Brennan Llinsley)



Al Qaeda might be on the run in Afghanistan, but Osama bin Laden's agents are in the driver's seat at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.



Officers tell of daily attacks by al Qaeda inmates against U.S. military personnel, who are ordered not to respond. The officers have also been ordered to fulfill the religious, cultural and even entertainment needs of the inmates, including providing Arabic translations of Harry Potter.



"I have never once since I've been down here ever heard of a detainee being abused, but I've seen the soldiers and sailors get abused," Staff Sgt. Thomas Garcia said. "[Detainees] throw some of the most unmentionable cocktails. They urinate on [the guards]. They spit. They call them names."



On Dec. 7, the U.S. military transferred the first group of al Qaeda detainees to a new $37 million 178-cell maximum-security prison designed to prevent attacks on guards. The facility has been reserved for prisoners deemed by the military to be the least compliant.



"As a commander, I don't like my folks being in danger every day," U.S. Navy Cmdr. Kris Winter said.



Guards have been routinely pelted with feces by inmates and face physical attacks from al Qaeda detainees. In May, al Qaeda detainees organized an ambush to stop a search of cells for contraband medication following two suicide attempts. Prison authorities have responded by providing inmates with a huge Arabic library, a modern hospital, sporting facilities and satellite television. Officials said Harry Potter in Arabic was one of the most popular books in Camp Delta.



Sgt. Garcia of the Maryland Army National Guard's 2nd Battalion, 110th Field Artillery, said guards maintain a professional attitude in the face of provocations by al Qaeda inmates. He said the al Qaeda operatives then send messages that they were being tortured. The Pentagon has been allowing guards at Guantanamo to discuss their work in an effort to combat the image of Camp Delta, which has been visited by 1,000 journalists. Officials said independent investigations have not confirmed allegations of misconduct and often Guantanamo has been confused with Camp X-Ray, which was open for four months in 2002.



"There's always the misconception that we're somehow beating these detainees and doing heinous things to them, and that is simply not the case," said Navy Rear Adm. Harry Harris Jr., commander of JTF-GTMO.



Much of the allegations about Guantanamo have been spread by human rights activists. Aryeh Neier, president of the New York-based Open Society Institute and former executive director of Human Rights Watch, termed Guantanamo "one of America's worst violations."



A U.S. sailor and block guard, who could not be identified for security reasons, said prison staff members are ordered to fill a range of dietary requests that seek to adapt to the religion and culture of the inmates.



"If a guy's salad isn't right, I'll make a phone call to try and get him the correct salad," said the 28-year-old guard, who is also a member of a task force.



The block guard recalled being attacked by a "cocktail" of feces, semen, blood and urine thrown by an inmate. He said guards are ordered to walk away.



"It's humiliating," the guard said. "A guy throws feces on you, and you've got to turn right back around and walk down a block that might have 40 people on it. They're making their little comments, and you go home and you change and you come back to work. Take a shower. Go to medical, get your screening."



Officials said al Qaeda inmates have attacked American guards on a daily basis. During the 12-month period that ended in August 2006, authorities reported 3,232 incidents of detainee misconduct. They included 432 assaults with bodily fluids, 227 physical assaults and 99 efforts to incite a disturbance or riot.



"This is serious stuff," Adm. Harris said. "And yet the guard force and the intelligence people maintain a remarkable degree of restraint and equilibrium. The young Americans that work here are doing a spectacular job in a dangerous place."



Officials said most guards are not allowed to handle Korans or other religious and cultural items for the inmates. The Korans, prayer beads and Islamic rugs are stored in a 300-foot long building similar to a small aircraft hangar.



Al Qaeda inmates have been taught to lie about Camp Delta and claim torture. Officials cited a terrorist training manual known as the Manchester Document and seized by British authorities in 2000. The manual directs al Qaeda operatives to make false claims of torture and mistreatment. More than 340 people have been released from Camp Delta.



“They're out there walking around spewing forth all manner of lies and evil things and distortions, but the fact is that they're released," Adm. Harris said.

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Message Number 216786

DRX9000 IS NOT A SHAM View Thread
Posted by John C on 12/05/06 at 22:14

I found a research study published specifically on the DRX9000 in the highly respected Journal of Musculoskeletal Pain, by Thomas A. Gionis, M.D., J.D., M.B.A., M.H.A., F.I.C.S., F.R.C.S. (I checked out his impressive credentials on the web and he is the "real deal")You can access this scientific study on the DRX9000 at: http://www.rehabco.com/pdfs/ciSpinalDrx9kStudy.pdf
I found it to be an extremely well documented and well written study. Apparently the 86% success rate with disc problems is an average, where in some cases it is lower, but in most cases it's even higher than 86%. It's definitely worth reading.

I also found an interesting site with some other published studies at: http://www.southcoastspine.com/RESEARCH.htm

There, you'll find a number of articles on the studies that have been published using non-surgical spinal decompression in the successful treatment of degenerated and herniated discs with the DRX9000 and it's predecessors, ie. VaxD & DRS.

I've discovered that non-surgical spinal decompression was pioneered by the brilliant physician, Dr. Alan Dyer, M.D., who also invented the cardiac defibrillator. This man is a genius! I encourage anyone to do a web search on him. He designed the VaxD machine that was cleared by the FDA in 1998, which has a proven 71% success rate. Several other manufacturers have since improved upon his invention, and the DRX9000, FDA cleared in 2001 is one of the few with it's own research demonstrating improved technology over the VaxD.

I've heard from a number of people about how their pain went away, and their lives were restored as a result of their treatment on the DRX9000. It's probably best to have your own firsthand experience with a successful treatment center/doctor, rather than rely upon the secondhand stories. A lot of these doctors are offering complimentary consultations. Looks like there's nothing to lose by checking it out in person!

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Message Number 215964

Re: Polosi and Hastings View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 11/21/06 at 19:33

Re. Alcee Hastings - per Wikipedia (because it's short, to the point and easy to get, not because it's always 100% accurate - it isn't - but in this case, these facts have been widely reported and are easily corroborated)

1981 Judge Hastings was charged with accepting a $150,000 bribe in 1981 in exchange for a lenient sentence and a return of seized assets for 21 counts of racketeering by Frank and Thomas Romano, and of perjury in his testimony about the case. He was acquitted by a jury after his alleged co-conspirator, William Borders, refused to testify in court (resulting in a jail sentence for Borders).

Despite the acquittal, in 1989, Hastings was impeached by the Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives for bribery and [[perjury] by a vote of 413-3. Voters to impeach included Reps. Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, John Conyers and Charles Rangel. He became only the sixth Judge in the history of United States to be removed from office by the United States Senate. The Senate had the option to forbid Hastings from ever seeking federal office again, but did not do so. Alleged co-conspirator William Borders went to jail again for refusing to testify in the impeachment proceedings, but was later given a full pardon by Bill Clinton during the end of his Presidency.

Hastings filed suit in federal court claiming that his impeachment trial was invalid because he was tried by a Senate committee, not in front of the full Senate, and that he had been acquitted in a criminal trial. Judge Stanley Sporkin ruled in favor of Hastings, remanding the case back to the Senate, but stayed his ruling pending the outcome of an appeal to the Supreme Court in a similar case regarding Judge Walter Nixon, who had also been impeached and removed.

Sporkin found some "crucial distinctions"[2] between Nixon's case and Hastings', specifically, that Nixon had been convicted criminally, and that Hastings was not found guilty by two-thirds of the committee who actually "tried" his impeachment in the Senate. He further added that Hastings had a right to trial by the full Senate.

The Supreme Court, however, ruled that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over Senate impeachment matters, and Sporkin's ruling was vacated, and Hastings' conviction and removal were upheld.

John h, I agree with you - if Jane Harmon is without ethics or integrity problems, then naming her should occur forthwith; she is knowledgable and experienced. If she also has ethics and/or integrity problems, then Pelosi should keep looking because Alcee Hastings is not the answer. If the Congressional Black Caucus would push that hard on this one, then questions of integrity should be turned right back at them. If I am missing some facts on these individuals or some broader picture, then I hope to be enlightened. As it stands now, I do not understand why Hastings would even be considered by Pelosi, given his history. It is said of Pelosi that her family background is that of machine style politics (her father in Baltimore, MD and she assisting him there). If that is so, then rewarding one's "friends" over all else may be the MO and that is usually not a favorable condition for honest government.

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Message Number 213637

How about 443 cases? ;) View Thread
Posted by marie on 10/18/06 at 15:37

http://www.hudsonreporter.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16948301&BRD=1291&PAG=461&dept_id=523589&rfi=6
In 2005, 443 cases of cyberstalking were reported to www.haltabuse.org, a volunteer organization that works to fight online harassment by educating the general public and law enforcement personnel.

One can report harassing posts here:

- http://www.haltabuse.org/

Online Harassment/Cyberstalking Statistics
http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/stats/index.shtml

Actually it is a real law larry. And yes it has been used. Remember the "Patriot Act"? That information is much easier to retrieve then ever before.

You'll notice the links provided in the first post are to whitehouse.gov, the actual bill at Thomas.loc.gov and to Findlaw.com. It's real. Unless Bush pretending to sign the bill and they were pretending to document it on whitehouse.gov. I've known about this law for since it came into affect. It's all about documentation. ;) Anytime it has a .gov at the end it's the real deal. Why are you so nervous about this larry? You haven't been harassing anyone on a forum or via email have you?

In case those links wern't good enough for you. Here's another: http://www.vawa2005.org/ Violence Against Women Reauthorization Law. If someone is harassing you on a public forum this is your contact information.........

The Taskforce is chaired by Legal Momentum: http://www.legalmomentum.org/legalmomentum/ For more information contact: 522 K Street, NW Suite 550 Washington, DC 20005 Tel. 202.326.0040 Fax 202.589.0511

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Message Number 213562

Post harassing messages on a forum and go to jail! Thanks President Bush View Thread
Posted by marie on 10/17/06 at 21:24

That's right it is against the law to post harrassing messages on a blog or message board unless you use your real name. Bush signed this into law last January. It is part of the "Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act of 2005". Buried deep in the new law is Sec. 113, an innocuously titled bit called "Preventing Cyberstalking." It rewrites existing telephone harassment law to prohibit anyone from using the Internet "without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy." What does that mean? Read for yourself.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/01/20060105-3.html

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.03402:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20060127_sinrod.html
Specifically, Section 113(a)(3) provides that Section 223(a)(1)(C) applies to "any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet." Hello!

What does this mean? The Communications Act provides for fines and imprisonment of up to two years for violations. Thus, taken to a logical extreme conclusion, it is possible that a person who makes a Web posting or who sends an email that is intended simply to "annoy" someone else while not disclosing his or her true identity, could be subject to fines and jail time.

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Message Number 211981

Re: i just had the surgery for planters View Thread
Posted by R. Parker, DPM on 10/02/06 at 10:27

Thomas Jones . . MY FOOT! This is obviously a post to generate responses which will subsequently accrue needless accusations and controversy. It seems that this poster is likely a grad of "The Z-Man School for the Abuse of Language and the Literary Arts." . . perhaps its valedictorian.

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Message Number 211978

i just had the surgery for planters View Thread
Posted by thomas jones on 10/02/06 at 10:14

i just had the urgery for the planters and my foot still hurts the same place were it frist was and the iligament feels like it has ripped what can you tell me about this

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Message Number 209573

ABC bows to lib censorship...yay libs View Thread
Posted by larrym on 9/07/06 at 16:41

By Scott Collins, Times Staff Writer


Read more on Scott Collins' Channel Island blog


ABC's upcoming five-hour docudrama "The Path to 9/11" is quickly becoming a political cause célèbre.

The network has in recent days made changes to the film, set to air Sunday and Monday, after leading political figures, many of them Democrats, complained about bias and alleged inaccuracies. Meanwhile, a left-wing organization has launched a letter-writing campaign urging the network to "correct" or dump the miniseries, while conservative blogs have launched a vigorous defense.

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"The Path to 9/11," whose large ensemble includes Harvey Keitel and Patricia Heaton, offers a panoramic sweep of the events leading up to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The movie dramatizes what it deems intelligence and operational failures of the Clinton and Bush administrations, relying heavily on public records. Thomas Kean, the chairman of the 9/11 commission, served as a consultant.

After a screening of the first episode in Washington last week, some audience members attacked the film's depiction of the Clinton administration's pursuit of Osama bin Laden. Among those unhappy was Richard Ben-Veniste, an attorney and member of the 9/11 commission whom some conservatives have dismissed as a Democratic attack dog. Richard A. Clarke, the former counterterrorism czar, has criticized the movie for suggesting that the Clinton administration was in a position to capture Bin Laden in 1998 but canceled the mission at the last minute.

After much discussion, ABC executives and the producers toned down, but did not eliminate entirely, a scene that involved Clinton's national security advisor, Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, declining to give the order to kill Bin Laden, according to a person involved with the film who declined to be identified because of the sensitivities involved.

"That sequence has been the focus of attention," the source said, adding: "These are very slight alterations."

In addition, the network decided that the credits would say the film is based "in part" on the 9/11 commission report, rather than simply "based on" the bestselling report, as the producers originally intended.

ABC, meanwhile, is tip-toeing away from the film's version of events. In a statement, the network said the miniseries "is a dramatization, not a documentary, drawn from a variety of sources, including the 9/11 commission report, other published materials and from personal interviews."

The statement adds: "The events that lead to 9/11 originally sparked great debate, so it's not surprising that a movie surrounding those events has revived the debate. The attacks were a pivotal moment in our history that should never be forgotten and it's fitting that the discussion continues."

None of ABC's moves is likely to quell the debate, however.

The Center for American Progress Action Fund, a liberal advocacy group, said on Wednesday it had collected 25,000 letters asking ABC to either correct or cancel the miniseries. "The miniseries presents an agenda that blames the Clinton administration for the 9/11 attacks while ignoring numerous errors and failures of the Bush administration," the center said in a news release.

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Message Number 208251

Re: Best material and casting technique for making orthotics? View Thread
Posted by Julie on 8/24/06 at 01:36


Roy

You asked Jeremy if he knew of anyone in the UK with his degree of specialisation. If you are in or near London, you might consider consulting the podiatrist who treated me for PF six years ago. He did not "push" orthotics, but when I asked about them myself after a couple of months of conservative treatment had had little effect, and he agreed we should try them. He casted me in the prone position, and prescribed semi-rigid orthotics which, as soon as I began to wear them, made a significant difference. Within a few weeks I my pain had decreased considerably; and within three months my PF had gone and has not returned. I continued to use other conservative treatments - principally taping and my foot yoga exercises, but have always felt that the orthotics were the main contributory factor in my recovery. After four years of twice-yearly hill-walking in stony Crete they broke down and needed replacing; and I continue to wear them.

The podiatrist's name is Ron McCulloch. He works in Lewisham, and in Harley Street. Here is his website address: www.londonpodiatry.com He is podiatrist for two football teams (Charlton and Millwall, as I recall) and has been head of podiatric medicine at Guy's and St Thomas's. I don't know if he still works within the NHS:I saw him privately.

I'm sure you know that an orthotic is only as good as the shoe it is worn in, so you need to pay close attention to that, too.

I hope this is useful.
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Message Number 207858

H.R. 1020 National Pain Care Policy Act View Thread
Posted by marie on 8/19/06 at 14:53

Encourage your U.S. representative to co-sponser this bill. Let doctors do their job. The link below has done most of the work for you.

https://secure2.convio.net/apf/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&page=SplashPage&id=103&JServSessionIdr001=quni5nqe61.app8b
The National Pain Care Policy Act (H.R. 1020), which was introduced by Congressman Michael Rogers from Michigan, intends to 1) Improve pain education for physicians (so doctors do a better job assessing and treating us), 2) Improve access to pain management services (so that it is easier to get care for your pain) and 3) to increase research on pain conditions (so that there will be better understanding of how to relieve pain).

Review the bill and check to see if your U.S. Representative is a co-sponsor!
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:h1020:

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Message Number 207421

Democrat Party's long history of racism View Thread
Posted by Dr. Ed on 8/16/06 at 01:39

Great to see the political discussion board back.

The Democrat Party's Long and Shameful History of Bigotry and Racism

A common attack upon conservatives and republicans by the ultra left is to engage in what has come to be known as "playing the race card" but is more accurately described as racial McCarthyism. Hardly a day goes by without a member of the far left wing falsely accusing conservatives of racism, bigotry, and a wide array of similar nasty things. They are not only dishonest, but they often border on the absurd, as in NAACP leader and hyper bigot Julian Bond's recent implication to his organization that Bush administration officials supported confederate slavery. Amazingly, Bond's statements went without condemnation from the radical Democrat party or others in his organization.


Not surprisingly, in all the lies and accusations of racism by the radical left wing, the truth becomes distorted not only about the Republicans but also the Democrats who make these accusations themselves. For instance, you may or may not have heard Democrat Senator Robert Byrd's outburst of racist bigoted slurs, more specifically the "n-word," on national television in March of 2001. Amazingly, this incident of blatant racism on national television drew barely a peep from the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, Julian Bond, Mary Frances Berry, or any of the other ambulance chasers who purport themselves to be the leaders of the civil rights movement. In contrast, the main source of well deserved criticism for Byrd's racist outburst came not from any of the so called leaders of the civil rights movement but from from Republican Majority Leader Dick Armey (source). The race hustlers Jackson, Mfume et al turned a blind eye towards this act of racism by one of their own party, at most issuing an unpublicized slap on the wrist, or, as was more often the case, making not a peep. But where the race hustlers turn a blind eye and spew their lies, it is up to conservatives to set the record straight with the truth.

In response to the growing practice of racial McCarthyism by prominent left wing Democrats, it is necessary to expose the truth about the Democrat Party's record on Civil Rights:


I. Acts of Bigotry by Prominent Democrats and Leftists:
Franklin Delano Roosevelt: Franklin Roosevelt, the long time hero and standard bearer of the Democrat Party, headed up and implemented one of the most horrible racist policies of the 20th Century – the Japanese Internment Camps during World War II. Roosevelt unilaterally and knowingly enacted Japanese Internment through the use of presidential Executive Orders 9066 and 9102 during the early years of the war. These orders single-handedly led to the imprisonment of an estimated 120,000 law abiding Americans of Japanese ancestry, the overwhelming majority of them natural born second and third
generation American citizens. Countless innocents lost their property, fortunes, and, in the case of an unfortunate few, even their lives as a result of Roosevelt's internment camps, camps that have been accurately described as America's concentration camps. Perhaps most telling about the racist nature of Roosevelt's order was his clearly expressed intention to apply it almost entirely to Japanese Americans, even though America was also at war with Germany and Italy. In 1943, Roosevelt wrote regarding concerns of German and Italian Americans that they t0o would share in the fate of the interned Japanese Americans, noting that "no collective evacuation of German and Italian aliens is contemplated at this time." Despite this assertion, Roosevelt did exhibit his personal fears about Italian and German Americans, and in his typical racist form he used an ethnic stereotype to make his point. Expressing about his position on German and Italian Americans during World War II, Roosevelt stated “I don’t care so much about the Italians, they are a lot of opera singers, but the Germans are different. They may be dangerous.”

Roosevelt also appointed two notorious segregationists to the United States Supreme Court. Roosevelt appointed South Carolina segregationist Democrat Jimmy Byrnes to the court. Roosevelt later made Byrnes a top advisor, where the segregationist earned the nickname “assistant president.” Byrnes was Roosevelt’s second choice behind Harry Truman for the VP nod in his 1944 reelection bid. Roosevelt also appointed segregationist Democrat Senator Hugo Black of Alabama to the court. Black was a former member of the Ku Klux Klan with a notorious record of racism himself.

Hugo Black: A former Democrat Senator from Alabama and liberal U.S. Supreme Court Justice appointed by FDR, Hugo Black had a lengthy history of hate group activism. Black was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920's and gained his legal fame defending Klansmen under prosecution for racial murders. In one prominent case, Black provided legal representation to Klansman Edwin Stephenson for the hate-induced murder of a Catholic priest in Birmingham. A jury composed of several Klan members acquited Stephenson of the murder, reportedly after Black expressed Klan gestures to the jury during the trial. In 1926 Black sought and won election as a Democrat to the United States Senate after campaigning heavily to Klan membership. He is said to have told one Klan audience "I desire to impress upon you as representatives of the real Anglo-Saxon sentiment that must and will control the destinies of the stars and stripes, that I want your counsel." In the Senate Black became a stauch supporter of the liberal New Deal initiatives of FDR and a solid opponent of civil rights legislation, including a filibuster of an anti-lynching measure. Black led the push for several New Deal programs and was a key participant in FDR's court packing scandal. Roosevelt appointed Black, a loyal ally, to the U.S. Supreme Court. During the Senate confirmation of Black's nomination, the issue of his strong Klan affiliations caused a public controversy over his appointment. Following the confirmation Roosevelt claimed ignorance of Black's Klan past, though this claim was dubious at best. Black's first Senate election, which occurred with Klan support, had been covered nationally a decade earlier in 1926. Black's Klan affiliations were a well known part of his political background and recieved heavy coverage in the newspapers at the time of his appointment. On the court, Black became a liberal stalwart. He also continued his career of supporting racism by authoring the opinion in favor of FDR's Japanese internment program in the infamous Korematsu ruling.

Senator Robert Byrd, D-WV: Byrd is a former member of the Ku Klux Klan and is currently the only national elected official with a history in the Klan, a well known hate group. Byrd was extremely active in the Klan and rose to the rank of “Kleagle,” an official Klan membership recruiter. Byrd once stated that he joined the Klan because it was effective in "promoting traditional American values" (Source). Byrd's choice of words speak volumes about his bigotry considering the fact that the Klan is a notorious hate group, and the racist "values" it promotes are anything but American. One of the earliest criticisms of Byrd's Klan ties came in 1952 when he was running for Congress. Byrd responded by claiming that he had left the Klan in 1943 while noting that "(d)uring the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan." Byrd was lying, however, as he engaged in correspondence with a Klan Imperial Wizard long after he claims to have ended his ties with the hate group.

In a letter to the Klan leadership (Source) dated 3 years after he purported to have ended his ties with them, Byrd wrote "I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state. The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia." Byrd continued his racist diatribe "It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union" and followed with a request for assistance from the hate group's leadership in "rebuilding the Klan in the realm" of West Virginia.

Byrd's racism extends far beyond his Klan membership. In a letter he wrote on the subject of desegregating the armed forces, Byrd escalated his racist rhetoric to an appalling level. In the letter, Byrd vowed that he would never fight in an integrated armed services noting "(r)ather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds" (Source).

Byrd's racist opinions have shown their ugly face in his behavior in the Senate. Byrd led the filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and, according to the United States Senate's own website, filibustered the legislation to the bitter end appearing as one of the last opponents to the act before a coalition of civil rights proponents led by Republican Minority Leader Everett Dirksen invoked cloture so that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 could pass. At the time, Byrd was in the the midst of a 14 hour and 13 minute filibuster diatribe against the key civil rights measure (Source). Throughout the 1960's, Byrd was was one of the staunchest opponents to civil rights in the U.S. Senate. Byrd’s racist history drew attention recently when he went on national television and repeatedly used the n-word, one of the most vicious racial slurs in existence, in an appearance on national television. Byrd uttered the slur on Fox News Sunday with Tony Snow on March 5, 2001. Despite the appalling nature of the remark, it went largely ignored by the mainstream media and the self appointed "civil rights" leadership. Whereas a similar remark by anyone other than a leading Democrat Senator would assuredly prompt the likes of Jesse Jackson to assemble protest rallies demanding resignations, the Jackson crowd was eerily quiet following Byrd's remarks, issuing only low key suggestions that Byrd should avoid making such bigoted remarks.

In a sickening recognition of Byrd's appalling political career, the national Democrat party has done nothing but embrace the West Virginia senator with leadership roles and practically every honor imaginable. To this very day the Democrats call former Klansman turned U.S. Senator Robert Byrd the "conscience of the Senate." They have embraced him as their party's central pillar in all ways possible. Byrd has been reelected more times than any other Democrat senator, has served as a Democrat in Congress, a Democrat State Senator in West Virginia, and a Democrat State Delegate in West Virginia. Democrats have made repeatedly elected Byrd into their national party leadership and into the U.S. Senate leadership. He became secretary of the Senate Democrat Caucus in 1967, and Senate Democrat Whip in 1971. The Democrats elected former Klansman Byrd as their Senate Majority Leader from 1977-1980 and as their Senate Minority Leader from 1981-1986. Byrd was again elected Democrat Majority Leader from 1987-1988. Democrats made Byrd the chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee and President Pro Tempore of the Senate from 1989 until the Republicans won control of the Senate in November 1994. Following the defection of Jim Jeffords in June 2001, the Democrats again made Byrd the chairman of the Appropriations Committee and elected him to the highest ranking office in the Senate: the President Pro Tempore, a position which also put this former Klansman 4th in line for the presidency. Byrd lost his position when Republicans retook the Senate in late 2002, but continues to serve as one of the highest ranking members of the Democrat Senate leadership today.

Senator Ernest Hollings, D-SC: Hollings is liberal Democrat Senator from South Carolina who is also notorious for his use of racial slurs. He rose out of the Democrat Party's segregationist wing in the 1960's as governor of South Carolina. While in office as governor, Hollings personally led the opposition to lunch counter integration in his state. The New York Times reported on March 17, 1960 that then-governor Hollings "warned today that South Carolina would not permit 'explosive' manifestations in connection with Negro demands for lunch-counter services." According to the article, Hollings gave a speech in which he "challenged President Eisenhower's contention that minorities had the right to engage in certain types of demonstrations" against segregation. In the speech Hollings described the Republican president as "confused" and asserted that Eisenhower had done "great damage to peace and good order" by supporting the rights of minorities to protest segregation at the lunch counters.

Governor Hollings' support for segregation continued throughout his term and included his attendance at a July 23, 1961 meeting of segregationist Democrats to organize their opposition to the civil rights movement. Hollings was one of four governors in attendence, all of them Democrats. The others included rabid segregationists Orval Faubus of Arkansas and Ross Barnett of Mississippi. The New York Times reported on the meeting, noting that among the strategies discussed were using the segregationist White Citizens Council organization to mobilize political opposition to desegregation.

In more recent years Hollings, a senior Democrat senator, has made disparaging racial remarks and slurs against minorities. Senator Hollings, who was a contender for his party's presidential nomination in 1984, blamed his defeat in the primaries by using a racial slur against Hispanics. After losing the Iowa Straw Poll, Hollings stated "You had wetbacks from California that came in here for Cranston," referring to one of his opponents, Alan Cranston. A few years later Hollings reportedly used the slur "darkies" to derogatorily refer to blacks. He also once disparagingly referred to the Rainbow PUSH Coalition as the "Blackbow Coalition," and called former Senator Howard Metzenbaum, who is Jewish, "the Senator from B'nai B'rith." Hollings gained international criticism for his remarks about the African Delegation to the 1993 Geneva GATT conference, where he crudely remarked "you'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva." Hollings was also the Governor of South Carolina who raised the confederate flag over the state capitol in the early 1960's in what was considered at the time to be an act of defiance to civil rights. The press ignored Hollings and his role in the flag issue at the same time the political correctness police were smearing George W. Bush during his campaign after Bush correctly remarked that the flag was a state issue to be decided upon by South Carolina and not the national government.

Jesse Jackson: Jackson was the featured prime time speaker at the 2000 Democrat Convention. Jackson has a history of using anti-Semitic slurs and derogatorily calling New York City “Hymietown.” Jackson, a prominent self proclaimed "civil rights leader," is himself guilty of the same bigotry he dishonestly purports to oppose.

Dan Rather: Rather, the well known television anchor for CBS, is also a liberal Democrat who has spoken at fundraisers for the Democrat party in the past. The notoriously left wing reporter appeared on the Don Imus radio show on July 19, 2001 where he was interviewed about his long term refusal to cover the Gary Condit (D-CA) scandal involving an affair with a missing intern despite the scandal's national prominence. Rather noted on the air that CBS had basically forced him to cover the story that was on every other network and on the front page of all the major newspapers, all this after Rather avoided it for months. Rather stated on the air, refering to CBS, that "they got the Buckwheats" and made him cover the Condit scandal. The term "Buckwheat" is considered an offensive racial stereotype that stems from an easily frightened black character named "Buckwheat" on the Little Rascals comedies. It is widely regarded as a racial epithet and has long been condemned as an offensive stereotype by several civil rights organizations. In several past incidents (see here and here) the use of the epithet "Buckwheat" has recieved condemnation by the NAACP, Al Sharpton and other left wing organizations. These left wing organizations and personalities have demanded that other media personalities be fired over using the epithet, and even staged a protest at a school over the mere allegation that the racist stereotype had been used by a teacher. Yet these same liberal groups have, to date, remained completely silent now that one of their own, Dan Rather, is guilty of using the same offensive racial stereotype they have condemned elsewhere on a national radio show. It's just more proof of how the left wingers who cry the loudest with accusations of racism against others turn a blind eye when somebody of their own left wing ideology is the undeniable culprit of a blatantly racist act or statement!

Cragg Hines: Hines is one of the most rabidly partisan DC based Democrat editorial columnists to work for a major newspaper, and he makes no attempts to hide it. To Hines, pro-lifers are "neanderthals," as is often the case with those who differ in opinion with him. Ironically, Hines, a columnist who regularly touts himself as an enlightened progressive, is also known for racial remarks and religious intolerance. He attacked Senator Jesse Helms in an August 26, 2001 editorial with not only the usual liberal name calling, but also with a racial epithet. Hines used the racial slur "cracker" to attack Helms. He used the epithet not only within the article's text, but he even included it in the piece's title. In a sense of heavy irony, Hines' article accused Helms of bigotry for, among other things, opposing liberal policies like affirmative action. He didn't seem to object to himself for his own bigotted language in the same article. Hines has also drawn heavy criticism from Catholics including a letter to the editor from the former President of the U.S. Catholic Bishop's Conference for his seemingly agenda-driven criticisms of Catholicism and its religious leaders, often based on little or no historical evidence, which he has expressed in numerous editorial columns.

Al Sharpton: Sharpton, a perrenial Democrat candidate and one of the rumored candidates for the Democrat's 2004 presidential nomination, has a notorious racist past. Sharpton was a central figure who fanned the 1991 Crown Heights race riot, where a mob shouting anti-semetic slurs murdered an innocent Jewish man. Sharpton also incited a 1995 protest of a Jewish owned store in Harlem where protesters used several anti-semetic slurs. During the protests, a Sharpton lieutenant called the store's owner a "bloodsucker" and declared an intent to "loot the Jews." A member of the protest mob later set fire to the store, resulting in the death of seven (source).

Representative Dick Gephardt, D-MO: Gephardt, the former Democrat Minority Leader in the U.S. House of Representatives, gave several speeches to a St. Louis area hate group during his early years as a representative. According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Gephardt spoke before the Metro South Citizens Council, a now defunct white supremacist organization, during his early years as a congressman. Newsmax.com further reported that Gephardt had openly asked the group for an endorsement of his candidacy during one of his many visits with the organization. Gephardt has long avoided questions about his past affiliation with this group.

Andrew Cuomo: Cuomo, Bill Clinton's former Housing Secretary and a prominent Democrat political player in New York, was tape recorded using racially inflamatory rhetoric to build opposition to a potential Democrat primary opponent while speaking to a Democrat group. Cuomo stated that voting for his rival for the New York Democrat gubernatorial nomination Carl McCall, who is black, would create a "racial contract" between Black and Hispanic Democrats "and that can't happen." Upon initial reports, Cuomo denied the statement but later a tape recording surfaced. Cuomo later dropped out of the race for governor (source).

Lee P. Brown: Brown, Bill Clinton's former drug czar and Democrat mayor of Houston, engaged in racist campaigning designed to suppress Hispanic voter turnout during his 2001 reelection bid. Brown faced challenger Orlando Sanchez, a Hispanic Republican who drew heavy support from the Hispanic community during the general election. Two weeks prior to the runoff, Brown's campaign printed racist signs designed to intimidate Hispanic voters. The signs featured a photograph of Sanchez and the words "Anti-Hispanic." The signs drew harsh criticism from Hispanic leaders as their message was designed to intimidate and confuse Hispanic voters. Around the same time the signs were being used, Brown supporter and city councilman Carol Alvarado made a series of racially charged attacks on Sanchez, implying a desire to see the supression of Hispanic voter turnout in the runoff. Brown staffers also went on record claiming that Sanchez was not a true Hispanic. The racist anti-Hispanic undertones of Brown's reelection bid were so great that liberal Democrat city councilman John Castillo, himself Hispanic, retracted his endorsement of Brown in disgust and became a Sanchez supporter in the final week of the campaign. Following the harsh condemnation of the racist signs and tactics, Brown purported that his campaign was removing them even though many still lingered around Houston up until the election. When election day came along, Brown placed more of the racist signs at polling places, despite his claim to have stopped using them. The large campaign billboard style election day signs featured, in Spanish, the word "Danger!" on them followed by Sanchez's name with a large red circle and slash through it. The signs identified the Brown campaign as their owner on the bottom. Brown's racially charged reelection effort barely squeeked by Sanchez on election day, winning 51% to 49% following a series of racially motivated advertisements in which the Brown campaign appealed to the fear of black voters by invoking images of the gruesome lynching death of James Byrd, Jr. and by attempting to pit them against Hispanics. While Brown had the audacity to declare himself a mayor for all people and all ethnicities at his victory party, many in Houston fear the racial wounds inflicted by his campaign will take years to heal.

Mary Frances Berry: Berry is the Democrat chair of the US Commission on Civil Rights (USCCR). She purports herself to be an "independent" in her political affiliation in order to hold her job on the civil rights commission where partisan membership may not exceed 4 for either party, but is in fact a dedicated liberal Democrat who openly supported Al Gore for president and has given a total of $20,000 in personal contributions to the Democrat Party, Al Gore for President, and other Democrat candidates over the last decade. Berry is an open racist who is affiliated with the far-left Pacifica radio network, a group with ties to black nationalist causes. Berry once stated "Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them," indicating that she believes the USCCR should only look out for civil rights violations against persons of certain select skin colors.

Billy McKinney: Former Democrat State Representative Billy McKinney of Georgia, who is also the father of former Democrat congresswoman Cynthia McKinney of the same state. During his daughter's failed 2002 reelection bid, McKinney appeared on television where he blamed his daughter's difficulties on a Jewish conspiracy. McKinney unleashed a string of anti-semitic sentiments, stating "This is all about the Jews" and spelling out "J-E-W-S." McKinney lost his own seat in a runoff a few weeks later.

The Democrat Party and the Ku Klux Klan: Aside from the multiple Klan members who have served in elected capacity within the high ranks of the Democrat Party, the political party itself has a lengthy but often overlooked history of involvement with the Ku Klux Klan. Though it has been all but forgotten by the media, the Democrat National Convention of 1924 was host to one of the largest Klan gatherings in American history. Dubbed the "Klanbake convention" at the time, the 1924 Democrat National Convention in New York was dominated by a platform dispute surrounding the Ku Klux Klan. A minority of the delegates to the convention attempted to condemn the hate group in the party's platform, but found their proposal shot down by Klan supporters within the party. As delegates inside the convention voted in the Klan's favor, the Klan itself mobilized a celebratory rally outside. On July 4, 1924 one of the largest Klan gatherings ever occurred outside the convention on a field in nearby New Jersey. The event was marked by speakers spewing racial hatred, celebrations of their platform victory in the Democrat Convention, and ended in a cross burning.




II. Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Movement:
A little known fact of history involves the heavy opposition to the civil rights movement by several prominent Democrats. Similar historical neglect is given to the important role Republicans played in supporting the civil rights movement. A calculation of 26 major civil rights votes from 1933 through the 1960's civil rights era shows that Republicans favored civil rights in approximately 96% of the votes, whereas the Democrats opposed them in 80% of the votes! These facts are often intentionally overlooked by the left wing Democrats for obvious reasons. In some cases, the Democrats have told flat out lies about their shameful record during the civil rights movement.

Democrat Senators organized the record Senate filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Included among the organizers were several prominent and well known liberal Democrat standard bearers including:
- Robert Byrd, current senator from West Virginia
- J. William Fulbright, Arkansas senator and political mentor of Bill Clinton
- Albert Gore Sr., Tennessee senator, father and political mentor of Al Gore. Gore Jr. has been known to lie about his father's opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
- Sam Ervin, North Carolina senator of Watergate hearings fame
- Richard Russell, famed Georgia senator and later President Pro Tempore

The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:

- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia

Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Act was substantial enough to literally split the party in two. A whopping 40% of the House Democrats VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, while 80% of Republicans SUPPORTED it. Republican support in the Senate was even higher. Similar trends occurred with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which was supported by 82% of House Republicans and 94% of Senate Republicans. The same Democrat standard bearers took their normal racists stances, this time with Senator Fulbright leading the opposition effort.

It took the hard work of Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen and Republican Whip Thomas Kuchel to pass the Civil Rights Act (Dirksen was presented a civil rights accomplishment award for the year by the head of the NAACP in recognition of his efforts). Upon breaking the Democrat filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, Republican Dirksen took to the Senate floor and exclaimed "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!" (Full text of speech). Sadly, Democrats and revisionist historians have all but forgotten (and intentionally so) that it was Republican Dirksen, not the divided Democrats, who made the Civil Rights Act a reality. Dirksen also broke the Democrat filibuster of the 1957 Civil Rights Act that was signed by Republican President Eisenhower.

Outside of Congress, the three most notorious opponents of school integration were all Democrats:
- Orval Faubus, Democrat Governor of Arkansas and one of Bill Clinton's political heroes
- George Wallace, Democrat Governor of Alabama
- Lester Maddox, Democrat Governor of Georgia

The most famous of the school desegregation standoffs involved Governor Faubus. Democrat Faubus used police and state forces to block the integration of a high school in Little Rock, Arkansas. The standoff was settled and the school was integrated only after the intervention of Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Even the Democrat Party organization resisted integration and refused to allow minority participation for decades. Exclusion of minorities was the general rule of the Democrat Party of many states for decades, especially in Texas. This racist policy reached its peak under the New Deal in the southern and western states, often known as the New Deal Coalition region of FDR. The Supreme Court in Nixon v. Herndon declared the practice of "white primaries" unconstitutional in 1927 after states had passed laws barring Blacks from participating in Democrat primaries. But the Democrat Parties did not yield to the Court’s order. After Nixon v. Herndon, Democrats simply made rules within the party's individual executive committees to bar minorities from participating, which were struck down in Nixon v. Condon in 1932. The Democrats, in typical racist fashion, responded by using state parties to pass rules barring blacks from participation. This decision was upheld in Grovey v. Townsend, which was not overturned until 1944 by Smith v. Allwright. The Texas Democrats responded with their usual ploys and turned to what was known as the "Jaybird system" which used private Democrat clubs to hold white-only votes on a slate of candidates, which were then transferred to the Democrat party itself and put on their primary ballot as the only choices. Terry v. Adams overturned the Jaybird system, prompting the Democrats to institute blocks of unit rule voting procedures as well as the infamous literacy tests and other Jim Crow regulations to specifically block minorities from participating in their primaries. In the end, it took 4 direct Supreme Court orders to end the Democrat's "white primary" system, and after that it took countless additional orders, several acts of Congress, and a constitutional amendment to tear down the Jim Crow codes that preserved the Democrat's white primary for decades beyond the final Supreme Court order ruling it officially unconstitutional.

Hispanics in South Texas were treated especially poorly by the Democrat Party, which relied heavily on a system of political bosses to coerce and intimidate Hispanics into voting for Democrat primary candidates of choice. Though coercion is illegal, this system, known as the Patron system, is still in use to this day by local Democrat parties in some heavy Hispanic communities of the southwest.


The next time Democrats take to the national airwaves to dishonestly accuse Republicans of racial hatred, remember who the historical record up until this very day points to as the real bigots: The Democrat Party. In all possible ways, the Democrat Party is built around the pillars of ultra leftists, many of whom are known participants in racism and/or affiliates of racist hate groups. Consider the Democrat Party of today's heroes and leaders:
- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Democrat icon and orchestrator of Japanese Internment
- Ex-House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, former affiliate of a St. Louis area racist group
- Ex-Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Byrd, former Ku Klux Klansman known for making bigoted slurs on national television
- Rev. Jesse Jackson, Democrat keynote speaker and race hustler known for making anti-Semitic slurs
- Rev. Al Sharpten, Democrat activist and perennial candidate and race hustler known inciting anti-Semitic violence in New York City
- Sen. Ernest Hollings, leading Democrat Senator known for use of racial slurs against several minority groups
- Lee P. Brown, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat mayor of Houston who won reelection using racial intimidation against Hispanic voters
- Andrew Cuomo, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat candidate for NY Governor who made racist statements about a black opponent.
- Dan Rather, Democrat CBS news anchor and editorialist known for using anti-black racial epithets on a national radio broadcast
- Donna Brazile, former Gore campaign manager known for making anti-white racial attacks. Brazile has also worked for Jackson, Gephardt, and Michael Dukakis

The simple truth is that the Democrat Party's history during this century is one closely aligned to bigotry in a record stemming largely out of the liberal New Deal era up until the modern day. Bigots are at the center of the Democrat party's current leadership and role models. And in a striking display of hypocrisy, many of the same Democrats who dishonestly shout accusations of "bigotry" at conservatives are practicing bigots of the most disgusting and disreputable kind themselves.



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Message Number 206484

Mes-o-potamia View Thread
Posted by George on 8/06/06 at 12:53

I highly recommend,"Fiasco," the new book by Thomas E. Ricks to anyone who would like to have a good review of what has caused and continues to cause the mess that is current-day Iraq. Many other books have cited many of the same issues, but none that I have read had done so so succinctly and effectively. Most public libraries should have it by now. If you haven't read any of the previous books on the matter, and you have high blood pressure, perhaps check with your doctor first, as this read will surely worsen it.

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Message Number 204756

Re: Size 14 Sandals View Thread
Posted by Tim M. on 7/20/06 at 00:03

Jeremy,

My condition is pretty much what you might call "classic PF," and it is a condition I have lived with for over twenty-five years. But my condition is irrelevant to our discussion.

I said, very plainly, "when we begin to discuss English language and definitions, we're entering my area of expertise." Specifically, technical writing and anthropological linguistics are areas in which I have studied and practiced for over thirty years.

Since I can speak with some authority about language and definitions, I can tell you that just because a device is called an "orthotic" and treats a condition of the foot, there is no requirement --- legal, technical, vernacular or otherwise --- for it to even remotely resemble a pedorthist's orthotic. You simply cannot own the definition of "orthotic" in this manner.

Take a look at the web site http://www.ongoingcare.com/ong061004_002.htm . This is one of the web pages for Ongoing Care Solutions, Inc. The page is called "Orthotic Products." Right on that page is a selection of Night Splints, orthotic devices for the treatment of PF and other conditions of the foot; orthotic devices as different from your orthotics as Z-Coils are.

Right here in Scott's area of heelspurs.com which has a collection of Journal articles about night splints, Wapner and Sharkey of the Division of Foot and Ankle Surgery, Thomas Jefferson University Hospital, Philadelphia, say in the brief about their study:
"All patients were provided with custom-molded polypropylene ankle foot orthoses in 5 degrees of dorsiflexion to be used as a night splint."

If Z-Coil wishes to call the solid base of their shoe an orthotic, their are perfectly within their rights to do so.

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Message Number 204612

Re: Can we give the guy a break? View Thread
Posted by larry m on 7/18/06 at 19:41

my hero Helen Thomas



Thats says a lot. I guess he should have had an intern under his desk, used a cigar on her and then left her with a semen stained dress. Now that is a real dignified President and one that knows how to treat the ladies....especially a subordinate

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Message Number 204565

Re: Can we give the guy a break? View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 7/18/06 at 14:56

autumn -

I think it is the fact that Bush did all of this - as well as the "pig comments" at the press conference with the German leader(comments that made me feel nauseated to see and hear; I think I actually hung my head in shame - even though I did not vote for him, nor do I support him) - in public forums with other world leaders. He REPRESENTS our nation and should attempt to represent us with dignity and a sense of protocol. Even the lowest-born among us knows not to chew and talk with the mouth open, for one tiny example, and Bush was born into wealth and privilege and has lived in that kind of environment all of his life. His parents don't and did not act that way. His wife does not act that way. Even LBJ - of whom it could be said - was one of the most vulgar, crass, crude, undignified of U.S. presidents - knew how to act when among world leaders and at affairs of state. But even more than those points is the fact that he was talking and behaving in these silly, undignified ways, making irrelevant comments at a time when he is waging WAR on countries and when Israel and other countries in the middle East are engaged in escalating warfare. He is a silly, vacant man and his behavior is indecent and absurd- and we are all in great danger having this man and his cronies at the helm during these times. If you voted for him, then you have what you want. However, all of us are suffering for the votes of those who brought us to this awful pass in our history. I do not know how he can sleep at night - but he has been asked that question, probably by my hero Helen Thomas, and he says he sleeps like a baby. Babies can sleep like they do because they lack consciousness, awareness, the kind of intelligence that comes with thought and understanding and even a modicum of wisdom.

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Message Number 203156

HIstory Note View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 7/06/06 at 14:13

May I remind all of you who cite WWII for whatever point of view you want to make: Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a Democrat.

Now, I realize that W likes to align himself with that man and that era, but it just doesn't compute. I always wonder why W doesn't quote and cite Republican presidents??

The two major figures in this administration, many believe the ones who are really in charge and have always been, were big Nixon guys: Cheney and Rumsfeld.

People with an ignorant way of interpreting information like to say of 9/11-Bush-Iraq: well, we haven't been attacked again so that's proof that he's doing the right thing. Let me perturb your minds with some logic: the World Trade Center had been attacked before and people were killed. Almost ten years (eight years to be exact) passed between that attack and the second one in 2001. Clinton was president for most of that time. Does that mean that Clinton was doing the right thing? Or is it all just pixie-dust? Or might there be some statistical underpinnings here? EVen if it was pixie-dust, only slightly fewer than five years have passed since 2001, not the eight-year interval of 1993-2001.

What about the terrorist attack - the one not even mentioned anymore - that was AMERICAN boys, soldiers no less, who planned and completed that horror in Oklahoma? How do you folks pigeonhole that, in your easy pigeon-holing of everything. Those boys were the poorly educated, unAmerican products of Republican/right-wing/fascist incessant bashing of everything government from the post office to welfare to schools - everything has been fair game because to bash government is to bash all that is publicly funded for public good, as opposed to privatizing everything from water to schools and cutting taxes for the uber-wealthy. Those immoral products of the propaganda they swallowed were white American soldier boys from the "heartland"!

And - irony or ironies - it was your tax dollars and mine, in a huge and unprecedented way, that paid off the 2001 World Trade Center survivors' families - your tax dollars went to people wealthy beyond the imaginations of most of us (the stockbrokers whose documented wealth was astronomical), to people who were undocumented (illegal!) dishwashers, to "foreign nationals" who worked for various entities in the WTC and on and on.....YOUR hard-earned tax dollars went to them in amounts of millions of dollars EACH. Why? None of the Oklahoma City victims were paid by taxpayers' dollars. None of the victims of the first WTC attack were paid. None of the anthrax victims. Not Daniel Pearl's widow - the Wall Street Journal reporter who was kidnapped and beheaded. And your tax dollars were used to pay huge sums to all these people IN ADDITION to the charitable gifts they received - also that I and probably you sent in to the Red Cross, etc...... Tell me: if an airplane flew into your place of work today and you were killed or injured, do you think you or your coworkers would receive millions of dollars from your fellow taxpayers? Why did the WTC victims get that payoff? There were lots of ways to protect the airlines and the private corporate interests that wouldn't have required the transfer of your treasure to already hugely wealthy people or to non-American citizens.

Only the rabid Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld lovers can say with a straight face that there is a cause and effect between there having been no new attack on American soil since 2001 and their administration. The UK and Spain have been in Iraq with Bush, yet they have had attacks since they/the U.S. invaded.

John H - with all due respect - you often cite military actions of the past,WWII, for example - but do please remember: we knew exactly who the enemies were. We knew what their airplanes looked like, what their uniforms looked like, what languages they spoke, where their countries were located on a map. They were, in fact, nations. A "war on terrorism" is a euphemism for constant war everywhere and anywhere, all the time - perpetual war. No identifiable enemy. No identifiable end point. No "wins". No "losses". There is no such thing as a "war on terrorism" among sane peoples. Of course every rational person hates terrorists and terrorism. We fight them the way we fight criminals, killers, predators. We shore up our defenses so terrorists do not have easy access to prey and targets. THAT is what Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice-Powell did NOT do!! They had the reports. There had already been attacks. They had the intelligence reports!! They knew the activities. Yet it happened anyway. And then they paid off the surviving relatives - with taxpayers' money- in huge amounts of cash payments. Hush money. And then: abracadabra! Wish/boom/bang! They're invading Iraq, killing people, invading their homes, killing their children, raping women, torturing people, establishing concentration camps, holding people - for YEARS - without charge and without any usual legal basis.......

And we get to watch Bush put on a shirt, with rolled-up sleeves just like a real "working man" might wear and a dark enough color to show the sweat on a hot summer day - a real hard-workin' man, a real leader of troops - we watch him swagger and strut and blow out the candles on the birthday cake they gave him.

To be fair, it's not really Bush. He's just the little cowboy wannabe figurehead that Cheney and all of the real bulls allow to be out front so Cheney can be deep, deep in the shadows, running the whole show. Bush is not benign, but he's not really in charge, now is he..... One thinks of Dad or Grandpa letting little Johnny "drive" the car while standing on Dad's lap, as Dad really does the steering.

Do my feelings about this administration mean that I liked the Clinton administration? NO! Not at all. In fact, I blame Clinton for Bush: Clinton's behavior is what gave us Bush. People actually were persuaded (and hopeful) that Bush represented honesty, decency, integrity - and people were disgusted and angry by all that Clinton's behavior had brought to the country so Bush seemed like an acceptable opposite (these are just my theories). The old saying "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me..." (you know, the one that Bush is shown mangling in that videotape of him using it in a speech).... well, we should have that lesson down pat, when it comes to electing presidents. The press anointed Clinton early on in the first campaign because he charmed them and reminded them of JFK, so the press gave us Clinton. Then Clinton's bad behavior gave us Bush. Bush-Cheney think it's a monarchy with all of the resources of the U.S. and its treasury at their personal disposal. So who will Bush-Cheney give us?

I liked Jimmy Carter. I still like Jimmy Carter. And I think he has been horribly mistreated by public opinion, by Republicans (although that is not surprising), but worst of all by Democrats. He actually was a legitimate Democrat, not a Republican in Democrats' clothing - like Clinton (or the worst, the very worst: Joe Lieberman!! That whining, smug, unctuous, self-righteous twit.) One thing I will say: you gotta hand it to Republicans - they are masters - masters!- at dirty tricks and propaganda. It took a long time for Tricky Dick to be exposed. Now they're trying to convince us all that Ronald Reagan was akin to George Washington!! And now the reincarnation of W as George Patton or U.S. Grant or Teddy Roosevelt is in the works.

Also, I might like Barack Obama, but think it's way too soon to say. He is an effective and moving orator, that's for sure, and funny and charming and bright. I would like to hear him give as much praise and attention to his white mother and white grandparents who raised him as he does to his African father who abandoned him when a baby and his mother to return to Africa. I'm not a fan of PC over truth, but I haven't heard/read everything he's said/written by any means so I have an incomplete view of his statements. So far, I think he's very engaging.

I used to like John McCain - before he became Bush's lapdog and that, after Bush really gave him the Republican time-honored dirty tricks treatment. I don't understand McCain vis a vis the Bushes but in my estimation he went from being a leader to being a lapdog. He didn't seem to mind one bit what Karl Rove-Karen Matthews-the Bushes-Cheneys did to him...... and that bothered me.

I really like Bob Kerrey (not John - BOB, former Senator from Nebraska, now a college president in NYC) and could have supported him, I think.... I like Dennis Kucinich, who actually has principles and lives them but also has a sense of humor and no arrogance, but he's not "shiney and slick" enough to win...

You showed the frequently run tape of W giving the finger - a disgusting show from that little banty rooster. Have you listened to the LBJ tapes? How about to the Nixon tapes? Americans need to do their homework - and the press, for God's sake, needs to do its job!! We need to know much better who we are voting for - not looking for perfection or saints, but somebody REAL.

If Helen Thomas would run for office - ANY office - I would vote for her in a minute!! Now there's an American hero!! (My deepest apologies, Helen, for what I am about to say; I think you're beautiful!) A woman some might call homely, a now elderly woman, small in size, and a female - Helen Thomas - yet she is the ONLY one who ever puts Bush's feet to the "fire" and does what an American White House reporter SHOULD do: ask the tough, probing, questioning questions - not just swallowing the party line! And she has been ostracized and vilified but she has a brave spirit. SHE represents the "fourth estate" that you all like to discredit here. If the "fourth estate" were doing its job, we might be less likely to have these messes over and over. But then, nobody reads, nobody buys newspapers, nobody studies or does research anymore....

Here's the question that I am always asking and never get answered. First, let me say that the reason I ask it is that I am a "child of the 60s" and back then there was always a radical or two talking about taking some big anti-war action and there was always the point made of how impregnable the Pentagon was. That word was always used: impregnable. Second, we have always been told about how protected our air space is from invaders - all those NORAD stories and so on. And yet..... and yet..... a plane very easily flew in ways that air traffic and military and anyone else could have seen was wrong and then right into the Pentagon, the very seat of military power - right in the heart of the headquarters of military and civilian government - and not one, NOT ONE, effort was made to stop it. Doesn't this strike anyone else as so aberrant as to be impossible..... I mean, even if you accept any part of the party line, then what have all the trillions of dollars for defense in my lifetime been for and about - if the Pentagon itself could be so easily attacked. And the World Trade Center, that had been attacked before. And the government's own intelligence reports that stated exactly what and how it would happen - just not the exact day and hour.....

I think heartless idealogues and demagogues who confuse themselves with Kings and with the One True Way will sacrifice any of us and any of our treasure to fulfill their aims.

Result number: 81

Message Number 202717

Re: Whats the best arch slipper for the shower? View Thread
Posted by Thomas on 7/01/06 at 23:59

How about these?
http://www.moszkito.com/

Result number: 82

Message Number 202606

Re: Still painful and swollen after surgery, WHAT IS WRONG? View Thread
Posted by Thomas on 7/01/06 at 03:09

What is kinder surgery? Is that for pf?
you should see substantial amount of swelling reduction, but healing times vary greatly due to age, type surgery.

Result number: 83

Message Number 202605

more info View Thread
Posted by Thomas on 7/01/06 at 03:07

I found this on the internet:
With stretching treatments, the plantar fascia nearly always heals by itself but it may take as long as a year, with pain occurring intermittently. A moderate amount of low-impact exercise (such as walking, swimming, or cycling) also seems to be beneficial.

So again, it is a good question since it may take a year to heal.

Result number: 84

Message Number 202600

NSAIDS View Thread
Posted by Thomas on 6/30/06 at 23:20

I have been in a cast for 6 weeks, do I still need to take the NSAIDS? I think even by 3 weeks the inflammation would have subsided so my foot can heal from PF?

Result number: 85

Message Number 202599

Re: Whats the best arch slipper for the shower? View Thread
Posted by Thomas on 6/30/06 at 23:13

Birkenstock Birkie discontinued, it was one that had a good arch on it, where can I still buy?

Result number: 86

Message Number 202563

Re: Political Posts? View Thread
Posted by john h on 6/30/06 at 11:53

Kathy: Don't you know you can never go back to where things were? As Thomas Wolf said "you can never go home again".

Result number: 87

Message Number 202513

Whats the best arch slipper for the shower? View Thread
Posted by Thomas on 6/30/06 at 02:50

Whats the best arch slipper for the shower?
Anyone?
I know most of you have your OTC or custom orthotics but what do you wear in the shower for arch support, and what are you wearing around the house as a slipper?
Thanks all!

Result number: 88

Message Number 202502

high fence- big gate View Thread
Posted by cwk on 6/29/06 at 22:10


I agree that the US has an immigration problem, a multi-layered problem about which there is great emotion. Misinformation serves only to inflame passions- usually fear- and fear will not solve the problem.

Recently Denise posted statistics purported to be from the " INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigration." Actually some form of this information has been flying around the web, usually in emails and often on ultra conservative websites for at least three years. There is no such report.

Much of the data is based in fact but details have been altered so that the meaning is substantially altered. Very little of the data is reliable. It would simply take too long to explain the errors but a bit of research and analytical thinking will illuminate the errors in the post.

Following is a reasonable analysis of the problem and suggestions for solutions. I have not included the entire commentary- only excerpts.

A high fence and a big gate
By Thomas Friedman

America today is struggling to find the right balance of policies on immigration.

Personally, I favor a very high fence, with a very big gate............

- a blend that will keep America the world's greatest magnet for immigrants. Why?

First, the world is flattening, and as a result more and more people around the globe have access to the same technological tools for innovation and entrepreneurship. In such a world, where innovation is concentrated really matters - because that is where the best management, research and sales jobs will be located for any company.

Because of its deeply rooted culture of immigration, the U.S. has a huge advantage in such a world. If we are smart, we can still cream off the most first- round intellectual draft choices from around the world - more than any other country - and bring that talent to our shores to start companies and work in others.

We have gone from the Iron Age to the Industrial Age to the Information Age to the Talent Age, and countries that make it easy to draw in human talent will have a distinct advantage today.

Anybody out there try to become a Swiss citizen lately? It's not so easy - and it's also not an accident that Switzerland's most famous product is the cuckoo clock.

Second, a steady flow of immigrants keeps a society flexible and competitive. In this flat world, more people than ever can leverage technology. So whatever can be done - whatever today's technologies enable and empower - will be done by someone, somewhere. The only question is whether it will be done by you or to you. The more open your society is to new people and ideas, the more things will be done by you, not to you.

We shouldn't just welcome educated immigrants, but also laborers - not only because we need manual laborers, but because they bring an important energy. As the Indian-American entrepreneur Vivek Paul likes to say: "The very act of leaving behind your own society is an intense motivator. Whether you are a doctor or a gardener, you are intensely motivated to succeed.".........................................

An amnesty for the 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants already here is hardly ideal. It would reward illegal behavior. But since we are not going to deport them all, some version of the Arlen Specter bill seems like the right way to go: Illegal immigrants who were in the U.S. before Jan. 7, 2004, could apply for three-year guest-worker visas, each renewable one time if the applicant pays a $1,000 fine and passes a background check. After six years, if the immigrant learned sufficient English and paid another $1,000 fine and back taxes, he or she could start to apply for citizenship.

But because I strongly favor immigration, I also favor a high fence - if not a physical one, then at least a tamperproof national ID card for every American, without which you could not get a legal job or access to government services. We will not sustain a majority in favor of flexible immigration if we can't control our borders.

Good fences make good immigration policy. Fences make people more secure and able to think through this issue more calmly.

Porous borders empower only anti- immigrant demagogues, like the shameful CNN, which dumbs down the whole debate.

We also need to control the influx of immigrants because one byproduct of the flattening of the world is that many decent low-end factory jobs previously open to someone with only a high school degree or less are now disappearing. As Dan Pink notes in his book, "A Whole New Mind," many of those jobs can now be done by a computer faster or by a Chinese worker cheaper. Therefore, we can't just endlessly expand our pool of manual labor, without condemning people at that low end, particularly black men, to a future of declining wages or unemployment. That will have terrible social consequences...................................

The entire commentary can be found several places on the web. Read it for free at:
http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_3676532

Result number: 89

Message Number 202417

A news item about sand View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 6/28/06 at 18:42

This was in a newsletter:

A Run on the Beach Can Bring Misery
Soft sand is no friend to joints, experts warn

(HealthDay News) -- Summer beach bums who plan on jogging on sand instead of their usual pavement need to be extra careful to avoid injuries, experts say.

The common perception is that sand -- so soft and giving compared to hard pavement -- is easier and safer on the joints. But orthopedic experts are warning that just the opposite is true.

"Running on the beach comes with risks," according to Dr. Michael Ciccotti, chief of the Sports Medicine Center at the Rothman Institute at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital and head team physician for the Philadelphia Phillies.

"As you run on irregular, inconsistent surface like sand, the forces that go through the feet, ankles and hips vary dramatically and can predispose an athlete to injury in any one of these body parts," Ciccotti said in a prepared statement.

Sudden changes from firm, wet, hard-packed sand to loose dry sand can make running on the beach particularly dangerous. Beaches also usually slope downward toward the shoreline.

"Running on this sloped surface can especially predispose an individual to injury," Ciccotti said.

Sprains and tendonitis are commonly diagnosed injuries after running on the sand, Ciccotti noted. Common, too, are other strains and inflammation of joints and tendons in the knee, lower leg and ankle -- even fractures.

To prevent injuries while running, Ciccotti recommended wearing running shoes that offer stable support and are designed to absorb the shock of hitting the surface while running. Replace shoes about every nine to 12 months, he added, and stretch and warm up before you start to run, and don't overexert yourself if you aren't used to running long distances.

Also, Ciccotti said, pay attention to your running surface -- watch for changes in the terrain that may cause you to stumble or fall.

"Running on the beach is a great activity with tremendous health and psychological benefits. We just need to be extra careful to remain free of injury," Ciccotti added.

More information

The American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons has more information on running safety.


SOURCES: Thomas Jefferson University Hospital, news release, June 16, 2006

Result number: 90

Message Number 202202

Re: DRX9000 View Thread
Posted by Dr Mike G on 6/26/06 at 16:01

John,
The sad fact is that many doctors out there have not been taught business at all. They rely on these "guru's" to help them make their business profitable. I don't know what other offices do, but we have no sales pitch. I supply patients with options and leave it to them to make up their mind on what they would like to proceed with. I have collegues who are neurologists and orhtopedists who medicate and cut to help, we just do it a different way.

I brought the equipment into the office after sending 3 patient to back surgery last year. Had I had this, I may not have had to do so. So after investigating it I decided to bring it in.

As far as research, I did a lot on my own because I am a doubting Thomas.

Alot of information is there, you just need to know where to look. There is an oral presentation from Norman Shealy, MD on decompression therapy from 11/12/05 Southern Medical Association. Americvan Journal Of Physiological Therapeutics, Vol.15 No.3 July 2005 also by Shealy. Orthopedic Thechnology Review Vol7 No4 May/June 2005 by Rich Smith. Practical pain Management vol 5 no 3 april 2005. Orthopedic Technology review vol5 no 6 nov/dec 2003 Thomas Gionis MD. Practical Pain management Mar/april 2003, Alan E Ottenstein MD. MTG Newsletter Oct 1998/ vol5 no3 info on drs system. Journal of Neoroimaging vol8/ no 2 april 1998. AJPM vol7, No2 april 1997 Shealy MD. Annals of Medicine (date unknown) Jerome Groopman. Pain Management- a practical guide for Clinicians, fifth edition, chapter 20: new concepts in back pain management: decompression, reduction and stabilization Shealy, MD.

As you can see Dr. Shealy is on the forefront of this research. Dr. Shealy's work gave way to all of these decompression systems.

The problem is that this does not follow the Allopathic model of 1 surgery or take this prescription.

I have seen this technique work and work well. For the cost, it is very well worth it. Especially if it saves surgery. You can always cut, but you can never go back.

I hope this all helps.

By the way, where are all of you hearing about decompression?
I want to get the word out to people without sounding like I am selling anything. Like I said before, It works and we just want to help more people.

Result number: 91

Message Number 202034

Foot Question!!! View Thread
Posted by Thomas on 6/24/06 at 16:32

HI Doctors, I have two questions!!!

1)What is Weak peroneals?

2)What can cause these to become weak?

Hope you can help me!!!

Thank you,Thomas

Result number: 92

Message Number 201919

Letters To God From Children View Thread
Posted by Denise on 6/23/06 at 16:01


Dear GOD, In school they told us what You do. Who does it when You are on vacation? -Jane

Dear GOD, I read the Bible. What does 'begat' mean? Nobody will tell me.-Love, Alison

Dear GOD, Are you really invisible or is that just a trick? -Lucy

Dear GOD, Is it true my father won't get in Heaven if he uses his bowling words in the house? -Anita

Dear GOD, Did you mean for the giraffe to look like that or was it an accident? -Norma

Dear GOD, Instead of letting people die and having to make new ones, why don't You just keep the ones You have now? -Jane

Dear GOD, Who draws the lines around the countries? -Nan

Dear GOD, I went to this wedding and they kissed right in church. Is that okay? -Neil

Dear GOD, What does it mean You are a Jealous God? I thought You had everything. -Jane

Dear GOD, Did you really mean "do unto others as they do unto you"? Because if you did, then I'm going to fix my brother. -Darla

Dear GOD, Thank you for the baby brother, but what I prayed for was a puppy. -Joyce

Dear GOD, It rained for our whole vacation and is my father mad! He said some things about You that people are not supposed to say, but I hope You will not hurt him anyway. Your friend (But I am not going to tell you who I am)

Dear GOD, Why is Sunday school on Sunday? I thought it was supposed to be our day of rest. -Tom L.

Dear GOD, Please send me a pony. I never asked for anything before, You can look it up. -Bruce

Dear GOD, If we come back as something - please don't let me be Jennifer Horton because I hate her. -Denise

Dear GOD, If You give me a genie lamp like Aladin, I will give you anything you want, except my money or my chess set. -Raphael

Dear GOD, My brother is a rat. You should give him a tail. Ha ha. -Danny

Dear GOD, Maybe Cain and Abel would not kill each other so much if they had their own rooms. It works with my brother. -Larry

Dear GOD, I want to be just like my Daddy when I get big but not with so much hair all over. -Sam

Dear GOD, You don't have to worry about me. I always look both ways. -Dean

Dear GOD, I think the stapler is one of your greatest inventions. -Ruth M.

Dear GOD, I think about You sometimes even when I'm not praying. -Elliott

Dear GOD, I bet it is very hard for You to love all of everybody in the whole world. There are only 4 people in our family and I can never do it. -Nan

Dear GOD, Of all the people who work for You I like Noah and David the best. -Rob

Dear GOD, My brother told me about being born but it doesn't sound right. They're just kidding, aren't they? -Marsha

Dear GOD, If You watch me in church Sunday, I'll show You my new shoes. -Mickey D.

Dear GOD, I would like to live 900 years like the guy in the Bible. Love, Chris

Dear GOD, We read Thomas Edison made light. But in Sunday school they said You did it. So I bet he stoled your idea. Sincerely, Donna

Dear GOD: The bad people laughed at Noah - "You made an ark on dry land you fool." But he was smart, he stuck with You. That's what I would do. -Eddie

Dear GOD, I do not think anybody could be a better GOD. Well, I just want You to know but I am not just saying that because You are GOD already. -Charles

Dear GOD, I didn't think orange went with purple until I saw the sunset you made on Tuesday. That was cool! -Eugene

Result number: 93

Message Number 201321

Surgery Ever Necessary View Thread
Posted by Thomas Best on 6/17/06 at 04:11

Is Surgery Ever Necessary?
Our Medical Advisory Committee informs us that with adequate conservative care, surgery is almost never necessary for plantar fasciitis.
Ha! Dont bet on it. Most people do need surgery if the problem does not go away by 6 months...

Result number: 94
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Message Number 198342

tendon severing View Thread
Posted by Thomas T on 5/01/06 at 07:33

Has anyone had experience in having the tendon cut in planter's fasciatis?

Result number: 95

Message Number 198340

Re: Has anyone else had lump on plantar fascia after sugery? View Thread
Posted by Thomas T on 5/01/06 at 07:31

Has anyone had experience with having the tendon cut in planter's fascia?

Result number: 96

Message Number 195745

Chronic Achilles tendinopathy View Thread
Posted by Jan D. Rompe on 3/19/06 at 12:07

Jury is still out what kind of treatment is most effective when Achilles tendon pain became chronic.

Certainly, up to now there is no evidence published that shock wave treatment is effective for Achilles tendinopathy!

There is a pro-SWT congress report from Italy:

"EXTRACORPOREAL SHOCK WAVE THERAPY FOR TENDINOPATHY OF ACHILLES
Astore F*, Sansone V°, De Marchi F†
Departement of *Orthopaedics, °Universitá degli Studi di Milano, Istituto Clinico Humanitas, Rozzano, Italy;
†Department of Foot Surgery, Istituto Ortopedico Galeazzi, Milano, Italy

Introduction
Aim of the study was to evaluate whether or not Extracorporeal Shock Wave Therapy (ESWT) might be considered potentially useful in chronic non insertional tendinopathy of Achilles resistant to prolonged conventional nonoperative treatment.

Methods
A prospective, randomized, double-blind, controlled clinical trial was performed to compare the outcomes of a standard treatment with ESWT with 2000 impulses of ESWT with an energy flux density of 0.25 mJ/mm² (STORZ device)in the painful segment of the Achilles tendon, at weekly intervals for 3 weeks and placebo in subjects dedicated to sport and affected by non-insertional Achilles tendinopathy which failed to improve after current conservative treatments.
The comparison was submitted to the chi-square test for a significance level of 95%. Of a total of 102 patients, affected by intractable non-insertional Achilles tendinopathy, 51 received ESWT and 51 received Placebo. The main outcome measurement were Visual Analogical Scale and 60-point scoring system.

Results
93 patients concluded the study (48 ESWT and 45 Placebo). At 6 months of follow-up: in the ESWT group 12 (25.0%) good, 26 (54.2%) fair and 10 (20.8%) poor; in the Placebo group 7 (15.5%) good, 14 (31.1%) fair and
24 (53.3%) poor.

Discussion
Few therapeutic measures have so uncertain and unpredictable outcomes as those currently adopted in the conservative management of Achilles tendinopathy. Spontaneous recovery is slow or absent, so after exhausting
periods of conservative treatment, surgery is recommended, but also the results of the operative management are controversial and frequently far from being prompt and satisfactory. The good results obtained with ESWT without significant risks and the controversial results of operative treatment of tendon disorders in athletes prompted us to consider ESWT for those sportsmen affected by non-insertional chronic tendinopathy of Achilles who failed to improve significantly after conventional conservative treatment.

Conclusion
ESWT confirmed to be an effective and safe therapeutic tool for Achilles tendinopathy resistant to conventional non-surgical management. Obviously the relatively recent advent of ESWT and its non-completely clear mechanisms of action require further, possible prospective, studies with longer follow-up."


But there is also a trial with negative results:


"Shock wave therapy for chronic Achilles tendon pain: a randomized placebo-controlled trial.
Costa ML, Shepstone L, Donell ST, Thomas TL.
Clin Orthop Relat Res. 2005 Nov;440:199-204.

Shock wave therapy has been used for treatment of several soft tissue disorders that are characterized by chronic pain. We sought to determine if shock wave therapy reduces chronic Achilles tendon pain. Forty-nine patients were enrolled in a double-blind randomized placebo-controlled trial. Each patient was treated once a month for 3 months (1500 impulses of 0.2 mJ/mm²; STORZ device). The primary outcome measure was a reduction in Achilles tendon pain during walking. At the end of the trial, we found no difference in pain relief between the shock wave therapy group and the control group. There were two patients (62 years and 65 years) with tendon ruptures in the treatment group, suggesting caution when treating older patients. These results provide no support for the use of shock wave therapy for treatment of patients with chronic Achilles tendon pain. However, the confidence intervals include the potential for a clinically relevant treatment effect."



While comparable regarding number of pulses applied (3x 2000 vs. 3x 1500, device (both STORZ), and focusing (both: clinical focusing to painful area of Achilles tendon) observe that the treatment regimens of these placebo-controlled trials differ fundamentally in two aspects: weekly versus monthly treatment; primary outcome measure at follow-up of 6 months after the first application (ie, 5 months after the final treatment) vs. 3 months after the first application of shock wave therapy (ie, 1 month after the final treatment).

Shock wave treatment of Achilles tendinopathy should be restricted to controlled clinical trials until further data are published.

Result number: 97

Message Number 192666

Re: Achilles Tendon View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 2/02/06 at 00:32

John H - Thanks for your response. I hope your daughter has a very good recovery. Please give her our good wishes from here.
I kind of worry about the Achilles. I remember when Isaiah Thomas ruptured his on the court and my imagination is so strong that even the imagined experience of it was terrible. Mine are problematical; I just don't know HOW problematical. Thanks again -

Result number: 98

Message Number 192252

Re: Favorite Movies View Thread
Posted by Kathy G on 1/27/06 at 08:33


I'm fifty-six, have always been into music and knew a couple of people who went to Woodstock. I couldn't even have imagined being there. I guess I'm just too fastidious or something. No running water? All that mud?

Couple that with the fact that I hate crowds and I'm happy I got to see the movie but that was enough for me.

Marie, do you know that Carlos Santana has said that he doesn't remember a single thing about Woodstock. He was that out of it. He still put on an amazing performance. He still is, as a matter of fact. I got such a kick out of the kids who've just discovered him since his song with Rob Thomas. My son, who loves music as much as I do, remembers me playing all his albums. Yup, real vinyl albums!

Result number: 99
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Message Number 189102

Re: PLANTAR FACIITIS AND WONDERING ABOUT PLANTAR FASCIOTOMY View Thread
Posted by Shari R on 12/07/05 at 05:32

I'm sure you've read my opinion. You can try and contact my latest Dr. He's in Columbus, Oh. Dr. Thomas Lee. Foot and Ankle Surgeon. He confirmed that the fascia will not reattach and I should not have had the surgery. Everyone has an opinion, I'm just telling you how it is for me.

Result number: 100

Message Number 188667

Re: Dr Wander View Thread
Posted by Todd on 12/01/05 at 18:39

The computer gremlins have invaded us! LOL

That's Okay, I had a sense it was you.

I know it's difficult to form reply without doing an examination of the foot, but firmly believe that my neuroma extends all the way back to the neck of the metatarsal head. I'm estimating the neuroma could be roughly two inches long from top to tail. From a plantar view, the main source of pain is right between the metatarsal heads at the neck. (For both of them 3&4, and 2&3)

Is this "normal" for a neuroma and/or could this change the outcome for ligament release surgery?


********************************
BTW


I found an interesting citation on Ligament release...interestingly, it was dated 1979.

Thomas Morton's disease: a nerve entrapment syndrome. A new surgical technique.

Gauthier G.

A new interpretation of the surgical treatment of Morton's neuroma consists of release of the anterior edge of the deep plantar fascia (deep intermetacarpal ligament) without resection of the neuroma. In 206 patients treated with this technique, 83% had rapid and stable improvement. An additional 15% were improved but with some persistence of pain. Division of the ligament without excision of the neuroma provides good pain relief in most patients without the hazards of loss of sensation, loss of sweat production, or neuroma development in the nerve stump.

Result number: 101

Message Number 187201

...you will be assimilated, resistance is futile.... View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 11/12/05 at 10:54

vince:
From the perspective of an old trekkie as myself:

"Resistance Is Futile.
You Will Be Assimilated!"
By Thomas Horn

The Borg ("Cyborg") are considered by Star Trek fans to be the greatest villains ever introduced to television audiences. The biological and technological terrors made their debute on May 8th, 1989 in the "Q, Who?" episode of The Next Generation. "This is the Borg Collective," they said menacingly. "Prepare to be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctives to our own. You will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."

That is what my colleagues in the podiatric profession need to realize.:)
Ed

Result number: 102

Message Number 186214

Achilles protocol View Thread
Posted by Jan D. Rompe on 10/30/05 at 10:53

Should you use ESWT for chronic Achilles tendinopathy, then do not follow the treatment regimen investigated by Costa et al.:

Clin Orthop Relat Res. 2005 Nov;440:199-204.

Shock Wave Therapy for Chronic Achilles Tendon Pain: A Randomized Placebo-controlled Trial.

Costa ML, Shepstone L, Donell ST, Thomas TL.

From *The Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital, Norwich, UK; daggerThe Institute of Health, University of East Anglia, Norwich, UK; and the double daggerDepartment of Orthopaedics, Colchester General Hospital, Colchester, UK.

ABSTRACT
Shock wave therapy has been used for treatment of several soft tissue disorders that are characterized by chronic pain. We sought to determine if shock wave therapy reduces chronic Achilles tendon pain. Forty-nine patients were enrolled in a double-blind randomized placebo-controlled trial. Each patient was treated once a month for 3 months. The primary outcome measure was a reduction in Achilles tendon pain during walking. At the end of the trial, we found no difference in pain relief between the shock wave therapy group and the control group. There were two patients (62 years and 65 years) with tendon ruptures in the treatment group, suggesting caution when treating older patients. These results provide no support for the use of shock wave therapy for treatment of patients with chronic Achilles tendon pain. However, the confidence intervals include the potential for a clinically relevant treatment effect.

To read the full article, please contact me at profrompe at web.de

Result number: 103

Message Number 186198

Re: antibiotic (quinolone) and tendons View Thread
Posted by d fuller on 10/30/05 at 01:19

This is a list of citations begining in 1965 to date that deal with this "rare" adverse event. I present this not as an argumentative rebuttal but as proofs regarding my previous post. One would think if indeed this was a rare occurence we would not read medical journal articles concerning it each and every year for forty years. Nor does this list inlcude all such citations, only those readily available to the average person. Of special interest is the statements made at the 62 Meeting of the Anti-Infective Drugs Advisory Committee (circa 1994)where quinolone induced joint destruction (requiring complete joint replacement) is discussed as well as irreversible tendon and ligament damage. You will find that towards the end of this response. We find the same documentation when it comes to peripherial neuropathy as well which was first reported in association with Nalidixic Acid in the mid sixties.

1965

1. DE VRIES AC.
[SPONTANEOUS RUPTURE OF THE ACHILLES TENDON]
Ned Tijdschr Geneeskd. 1965 Jan 2;109:59-60. Dutch. No abstract available.
PMID: 14284979 [PubMed - OLDMEDLINE for Pre1966]

2. CROZZOLI NR, MANCA M.
[SUBCUTANEOUS RUPTURE OF THE ACHILLES TENDON. CONSIDERATIONS ON OUR CASE
HISTORIES]
Minerva Ortop. 1965 Jan-Feb;16:21-9. Italian. No abstract available.
PMID: 14303636 [PubMed - OLDMEDLINE for Pre1966]

3. VON GRAFFENRIED, ENGELER V, HEIM U.
[SUBCUTANEOUS RUPTURE OF THE ACHILLES TENDON]
Helv Chir Acta. 1965 Jan;32:253-6. German. No abstract available.
PMID: 14290218 [PubMed - OLDMEDLINE for Pre1966]


1969

1. Rosolleck H.
[Subcutaneous achilles tendon rupture]
Monatsschr Unfallheilkd Versicher Versorg Verkehrsmed. 1969 Dec;72(12):544-7.
German. No abstract available.
PMID: 4248859 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1971

1. Auquier L, Siaud JR.
[Nodular tendinitis of the Achilles tendon]
Rev Rhum Mal Osteoartic. 1971 May;38(5):373-81. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 5092370 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2. Krahl H, Langhoff J.
[Degenerative tendon changes following local application of corticoids]
Z Orthop Ihre Grenzgeb. 1971 Jul;109(3):501-11. German. No abstract available.
PMID: 4254811 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1972

1. Nalidixic Acid arthralgia
Bailey et al (CMA Journal 1972; 107 601-605)

2. Dupuis PR, Uhthoff HK.
In vivo study of the effects of a synthetic steroid, betamethasone (16B methyl-9X fluoroprednisolone) on the calcaneal tendon in rabbits Union Med Can. 1972 Sep;101(9):1763-7. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 5075006 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1976

1. Jouirland JP Les ruptures tendineusues. Le tendon normal et patholoqique
Seminar de Monte Carlo 13-14 February 1976


1980

1. Mason JO, Meagher DJ, Sheehan B, O'Doherty CK.
The management of supraspinatus tendinitis in general practice.
Ir Med J. 1980 Jan;73(1):23-40. No abstract available.
PMID: 7380640 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1981

1. Jensen KE.
[Bilateral rupture of the Achilles tendon]
Ugeskr Laeger. 1981 Jul 6;143(28):1768. Danish. No abstract available.
PMID: 7292758 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1982

1. Fink RJ, Corn RC.
Fracture of an ossified Achilles tendon.
Clin Orthop. 1982 Sep;(169):148-50. No abstract available.
PMID: 6809391 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2. Cetti R, Christensen SE.
[Rupture of the Achilles tendon after local steroid injection]
Ugeskr Laeger. 1982 May 10;144(19):1392. Danish. No abstract available.
PMID: 7135524 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3. Chechick A, Amit Y, Israeli A, Horoszowski H.
Recurrent rupture of the achilles tendon induced by corticosteroid injection.
Br J Sports Med. 1982 Jun;16(2):89-90. No abstract available.
PMID: 7104562 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. Newmark H 3rd, Olken SM, Mellon WS Jr, Malhotra AK, Halls J
A new finding in the radiographic diagnosis of achilles tendon rupture.
Skeletal Radiol. 1982;8(3):223-4. No abstract available.
PMID: 7112151 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1983

1. Norfloxacin induced rheumatic disease
Bailey et al (NZ Med J 1983; 96; 590)

2. Kleinman M, Gross AE.
Achilles tendon rupture following steroid injection. Report of three cases.
J Bone Joint Surg Am. 1983 Dec;65(9):1345-7. No abstract available.
PMID: 6197416 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1984

1. Chamot AM, Gobelet C.
[Achilles tendinitis: a pathology of confines]
Rev Med Suisse Romande. 1984 Oct;104(10):783-7. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 6515224 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1985

1. Between 1985 and July 1992 100 cases of tendon disorders had been identified in France
Kessler et al (HRG Publication 1399, August 1. 1996)

2. Jones JG.
Achilles tendon rupture following steroid injection.
J Bone Joint Surg Am. 1985 Jan;67(1):170. No abstract available.
PMID: 3968099 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3. 100 reported tendinopathies 1985-1992 France
In France, between 1985 and 1992, 100 patients who were being managed with fluoroquinolones had tendon disorders, which included thirty-one ruptures (Royer, R. J.; Pierfitte, C.; and Netter, P.: Features of tendon disorders with fluoroquinolones. Therapie, 49: 75-76, 1994.)
http://www.studiomedico.it/allegati/achille.pdf


1987

1. Ciprofloxacin an update on clinical experience
Areieri et al (Am J of Med 1987 82 381-386)

2. 93 ruptures, 103 tendinopathies, 20 tenasynovitis, 1987-1997
Source: http://www.sma.org/smj1999/junesmj99/harrell.pdf


1988

1. McEwan SR, Davey PG. Ciprofloxacin and tenosynovitis. Lancet 1988; 2: 900.

2. Adverse effects of fluoroquinolones
Halkin et al (Rev Infect Dis 1988 10 258-261)

3. Ciprofloxacin and tenosynovitis
McEwan et al ( Lancet 1988 15 900)

4. Tendon disorders attributed to fluoroquinolones; a study on 42 spontaneous reports in the period 1988-1998
Van Der Linden et al (American College of Rheumatology; Arthritis Care and Research 45; 2001 pages


1989

1. Adverse reactions during clinical trials and post marketing surveillance
Janknegt et al (Pharm Weekbl Sci 1989 11(4) 124-127)

2. Arthritis induced by norfloxacin
Jeandel et al (J Rheumatol 1989 16 560-561)

3. Schumacher HR Jr, Michaels R.
Recurrent tendinitis and achilles tendon nodule with positively birefringent crystals in a patient with hyperlipoproteinemia.
J Rheumatol. 1989 Oct;16(10):1387-9.
PMID: 2810266 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1990

1. Histologic and Histochemical Changes in Articular Cartilages of Immature Beagle Dogs Dosed with Difloxacin, a Fluoroquinolone
J.E. Kurkhardt et al (Vet Pathol 27;162-170, 1990)


1991

1. Rheumatolgical side effects of quinolones
Ribard et al (Baillere’s Clin Rheumatol 1991 5 175-191)

2. Perrot S, Ziza JM, De Bourran-Cauet G, Desplaces N, Lachand AT.
[A new complication related to quinolones: rupture of Achilles tendon]
Presse Med. 1991 Jul 6-13;20(26):1234. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 1831902 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1992

1. Seven Achilles tendinitis including three complicated by rupture during fluoroquinolone therapy
Ribard et al (J Rheumatol 1992; 19; 1479-1481)

2. 704 achilles tendinitis, 38 ruptures 1992-1998 Netherlands
Fluoroquinolone use and the change in incidence of tendon rupture in the Netherlands
Van der Linden et al (Pharmacy World and Science vol 23 no 3 2001 pg 89-92)
The cohort included 46 776 users of fluoroquinolones between 1 July 1992 and 30 June 30 1998, of whom 704 had Achilles tendinitis and 38 had Achilles tendon rupture
source: http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7349/1306

3. 100 reported tendinopathies 1985-1992 France
In France, between 1985 and 1992, 100 patients who were being managed with fluoroquinolones had tendon disorders, which included thirty-one ruptures (Royer, R. J.; Pierfitte, C.; and Netter, P.: Features of tendon disorders with fluoroquinolones. Therapie, 49: 75-76, 1994.)
http://www.studiomedico.it/allegati/achille.pdf

4. Ribard P, Audisio F, Kahn MF, De Bandt M, Jorgensen C, Hayem G, Meyer O, Palazzo E.
Seven Achilles tendinitis including 3 complicated by rupture during fluoroquinolone therapy.
J Rheumatol. 1992 Sep;19(9):1479-81.
PMID: 1433021 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Perrot S, Kaplan G, Ziza JM.
[3 cases of Achilles tendinitis caused by pefloxacin, 2 of them with tendon rupture]
Rev Rhum Mal Osteoartic. 1992 Feb;59(2):162. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 1604233 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Lee WT, Collins JF.
Ciprofloxacin associated bilateral achilles tendon rupture.
Aust N Z J Med. 1992 Oct;22(5):500. No abstract available.
PMID: 1445042 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

7. Blanche P, Sereni D, Sicard D, Christoforov B.
[Achilles tendinitis induced by pefloxacin. Apropos of 2 cases]
Ann Med Interne (Paris). 1992;143(5):348. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 1482040 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

8. Olivieri I, Padula A, Lisanti ME, Braccini G.
Longstanding HLA-B27 associated Achilles tendinitis.
Ann Rheum Dis. 1992 Nov;51(11):1265. No abstract available.
PMID: 1466609 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1993

1. Spontaneous bilateral rupture of the Achille’s tendon in a renal transplant recipient
Mainard et al (Nephron 1993;65- 491-492)

2. Boulay I, Farge D, Haddad A, Bourrier P, Chanu B, Rouffy J
[Tendinopathy caused by ciprofloxacin with possible partial rupture of Achilles tendon]
Ann Med Interne (Paris). 1993;144(7):493-4. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 8141519 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1994

1. Royer RJ, Pierfitte C, Netter P.
Features of tendon disorders with fluoroquinolones.
Therapie. 1994 Jan-Feb;49(1):75-6. No abstract available.
PMID: 8091374 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2. Armengol S, Moreno JA, Xirgu J, Torrabadella P, Tomas R.
[Ciprofloxacin as a cause of a behavior disorder in a patient admitted into intensive care]
Enferm Infecc Microbiol Clin. 1994 May;12(5):271-2. Spanish. No abstract available.
PMID: 8049295 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3. Donck JB, Segaert MF, Vanrenterghem YF.
Fluoroquinolones and Achilles tendinopathy in renal transplant recipients.
Transplantation. 1994 Sep 27;58(6):736-7. No abstract available.
PMID: 7940700 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. Onieal ME.
Achilles injuries.
J Am Acad Nurse Pract. 1994 Mar;6(3):125-6. No abstract available.
PMID: 8003362 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Scioli MW.
Achilles tendinitis.
Orthop Clin North Am. 1994 Jan;25(1):177-82. Review.
PMID: 8290227 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Hernandez MV, Peris P, Sierra J, Collado A, Munoz-Gomez J.
[Tendinitis due to fluoroquinolones. Description of 2 cases]
Med Clin (Barc). 1994 Sep 10;103(7):264-6. Review. Spanish.
PMID: 7934295 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

7. Achilles tenditinis and tendon rupture due to fluoroquinolone therapy
Huston et al (New England Journal of Medicene 1994 331 748)

8. Royer, R. J.; Pierfitte, C.; and Netter, P.: Features of tendon disorders with fluoroquinolones. Therapie, 49: 75-76, 1994.)

9. Dekens-Konter JA, Knol A, Olsson S, Meyboom RH, de Koning GH.
[Tendinitis of the Achilles tendon caused by pefloxacin and other
fluoroquinolone derivatives]
Ned Tijdschr Geneeskd. 1994 Mar 5;138(10):528-31. Dutch.
PMID: 8139714 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

10. Prantera C, Kohn A, Zannoni F, Spimpolo N, Bonfa M.
Metronidazole plus ciprofloxacin in the treatment of active, refractory Crohn's disease: results of an open study.
J Clin Gastroenterol. 1994 Jul;19(1):79-80. No abstract available.
PMID: 7930441 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

11. Van Linthoudt D, D'Oro A, Ott H.
[What is your diagnosis? Bilateral Achilles tendinitis associated with
quinolone treatment]
Schweiz Rundsch Med Prax. 1994 Feb 22;83(8):201-2. German. No abstract available.
PMID: 8134743 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

12. Kawada A, Hiruma M, Morimoto K, Ishibashi A, Banba H.
Fixed drug eruption induced by ciprofloxacin followed by ofloxacin.
Contact Dermatitis. 1994 Sep;31(3):182-3. No abstract available.
PMID: 7821014 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

13. Guharoy SR.
Serum sickness secondary to ciprofloxacin use.
Vet Hum Toxicol. 1994 Dec;36(6):540-1.
PMID: 7900274 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1995

1. Hernandez Rodriguez I, Allegue F.
Achilles and suprapatellar tendinitis due to isotretinoin.
J Rheumatol. 1995 Oct;22(10):2009-10. No abstract available.
PMID: 8992016 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2. Szarfman A, Chen M, Blum MD. More on fluoroquinolone antibiotics and tendon rupture. N Engl J Med 1995; 332: 193[Free Full Text].

3. Magnesium Deficiency Induces Joint Cartilage Lesions in Juvenile Rats which are Identical to Quinolone Induced Arthropathy
Stahlmann et al (Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, Sept., 1995 pg 2013-2018)

4. Crowder SW, Jaffey LH.
Sarcoidosis presenting as Achilles tendinitis.
J R Soc Med. 1995 Jun;88(6):335-6.
PMID: 7629765 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Pierfitte C, Gillet P, Royer RJ
More on fluoroquinolone antibiotics and tendon rupture.
N Engl J Med. 1995 Jan 19;332(3):193. No abstract available.
PMID: 7800022 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Szarfman A, Chen M, Blum MD.
More on fluoroquinolone antibiotics and tendon rupture.
N Engl J Med. 1995 Jan 19;332(3):193. No abstract available.
PMID: 7800023 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

7. Norfloxacin induced arthalgia
Terry et al ( J Rheumatol 1995 22 793-794)

8. Fluoroquinolone Induced Tenosynovitis of the Wrist mimicking de Quervain’s Disease
Gillet et al (British Journal of Rheumatology vol 34 no 6 pg 583-584, Feb 1995)

9. Mirovsky Y, Pollack L, Arlazoroff A, Halperin N.
[Ciprofloxacin-associated bilateral acute achilles tendinitis]
Harefuah. 1995 Dec 1;129(11):470-2, 535. Hebrew.
PMID: 8846955 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



1996

1. McGarvey WC, Singh D, Trevino SG. Partial Achilles tendon ruptures associated with fluoroquinolone antibiotics: a case report and literature review. Foot Ankle Int 1996; 17: 496-498[ISI][Medline].

2. Pierfitte C, Royer RJ.
Tendon disorders with fluoroquinolones.
Therapie. 1996 Jul-Aug;51(4):419-20. No abstract available.
PMID: 8953821 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3. Hugo-Persson M.
[Rupture of the Achilles tendon after ciproxine therapy]
Lakartidningen. 1996 Apr 17;93(16):1520. Swedish. No abstract available.
PMID: 8667750 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. Therapie 1996; 51: 419-420 Tendon disorders with fluoroquinolones 421 cases have been collected by the Centre de Pharmacovigilance, 340 of tendinitis and 81 cases of tendon rupture.

5. McGarvey WC, Singh D, Trevino SG.
Partial Achilles tendon ruptures associated with fluoroquinolone antibiotics: a
case report and literature review.
Foot Ankle Int. 1996 Aug;17(8):496-8. Review.
PMID: 8863030 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Skovgaard D, Feldt-Rasmussen BF, Nimb L, Hede A, Kjaer M.
[Bilateral Achilles tendon rupture in individuals with renal transplantation]
Ugeskr Laeger. 1996 Dec 30;159(1):57-8. Danish.
PMID: 9012076 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

7. Jagose JT, McGregor DR, Nind GR, Bailey RR.
Achilles tendon rupture due to ciprofloxacin.
N Z Med J. 1996 Dec 13;109(1035):471-2. No abstract available.
PMID: 9006634 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

8, Ottosson L.
[An unexpected verdict by the HSAN in a case of Achilles tendon rupture]
Lakartidningen. 1996 Dec 18;93(51-52):4712, 4715. Swedish. No abstract available.
PMID: 9011717 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

9. Castagnola C, Suhler A.
[Tendinopathy and fluoroquinolones]
Ann Urol (Paris). 1996;30(3):129-30. French.
PMID: 8766149 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

10. Foot Ankle Int. 1996 Aug;17(8):496-8.
Partial Achilles tendon ruptures associated with fluoroquinolone antibiotics: a case report and literature review.

11. Fluoroquinolone induced arthralgia and Magnetic Resonance Imaging
Loeuille et al (The Journal of Rheumatology volume 23 no 7 , July 1996)

12. Fluoroquinolone Induced Tendinopathy; Report of Six Cases
Zabraniedkl et al (The Journal of Rhuematology 1996; 23; 3)

13. Quinolone induced cartilage lesions are not reversible in rats
Forster et al (Arch Toxicol (1996) 70; 474-481)

14. Maki T, Heinasmaki T, Riutta J, Tikkanen T, Laasonen L, Eklund K.
[Bilateral Achilles tendon rupture caused by oral fluoroquinolones]
Duodecim. 1996;112(19):1818-20. Finnish. No abstract available.
PMID: 10596182 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE

15. ENGLAND
130 reported tendon inflammation or rupture (England, France and Belgium, 1996)
The group cited 130 reports of tendon inflammation or rupture in people who used the prescription drug in England, France and Belgium. The FDA has received at least 52 reports of patients in the U.S. who have suffered tendon damage
(from public citizens 1996 petition)
Szarfman et al. recommended that the labeling on packaging for fluoroquinolone be up-dated to include a warning about the possibility of tendon rupture. In its recommendations on the use of
this class of antibiotics, the British National Formulary
suggested that "at the first sign of pain or inflammation, patients should discontinue the treatment and rest the affected limb until the tendon symptoms have resolved."
British National Formulary. No. 32, p. 259. London, British Medical Association, Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain, 1996.
{Notice how this labeling change has not be altered since 1996 and appears to have been copied word for word in every monograph.}

16. FRANCE
921 reported tendon disorders France
340 reported tendonitis, 81 tendon ruptures 1996, WHO
Adverse drug reactions with fluoroquinolones The French system of drug surveillance has analyzed the reports of adverse drug reactions (ADRs) to fluoroquinolones since they were launched. The frequency of reactions ranges from 1/15000 to 1/208000 case per days of treatment. Cutaneous disorders and tendon disorders dominate in France, whereas cutaneous effects and neuropsychiatric disorders are predominant in the UK; tendon disorders take up only the 5th position. Among the most unexpected ADRs are the following: 1- Shock 2- Acure renal failure Tendon ruptures represent 81 cases for 921 reports of tendon disorders which are related in decreasing order to pefloxacin 1/23130 case per days of treatment, ofloxin, norfloxacin and ciprofloxacin 1/779600 case per days of treatment. Age and corticosteroids increase the risk of tendon rupture. Therapie 1996; 51; 419-420 Tendon disorders with fluoroquinolones 421 cases have been collected by the Centre de Pharmacovigilance: 340 of tendinitis and 81 of tendon rupture. These cases were attributed to Peflacine, Oflocet, Noroxine, Ciflox. Tendinitis was characterized by a bilateral malleolar oedema associated with a sudden pain. Sometimes this oedema evoked phlebitis. The tendon rupture was generally preceded by a tendinitis but in half of the cases it occurred without warning.
Source: http://www.who-umc.org/newsletter/newsltr97_1.html (sic)


1997

1. Australia. The Adverse Drug Reactions Advisory Committee first reported tendinitis in association with fluoroquinolone antibiotics in 1997. The Committee has continued to monitor this adverse reaction, and has now received 60 reports of tendinitis, tensosynovitis and/or tendon rupture in association with these drugs. Ciprofloxacin was most frequently cited (55 reports), as well as norfloxacin (4) and enoxacin (1).
Forty-five reports described tendinitis alone, one report described tensosynovitis, and 14 reports documented tendon tear or rupture. Fifty-five of the 60 reports specified the Achilles tendon, including 20 which described bilateral Achilles tendon damage. All 14 reports of tendon rupture involved the Achilles tendon. The 58 patients ranged in age from 38 to 91 years (median: 69), with no significant difference between those with tendinitis and those with tendon rupture.
The daily doses of ciprofloxacin ranged from 500 mg to 2250 mg, with 46% of patients taking 1500 mg and 46% of patients taking 1000 mg daily. For those who developed tendon rupture, 57% were taking 1500 mg daily. Time to onset varied from within 24 hours after the drug was commenced to 3 months after starting, but the majority of cases of tendinitis occurred within the first week. Time to rupture was longer with a median time of 2-3 weeks. Known risk factors for these reactions include old age, renal dysfunction and concomitant corticosteroid therapy. In the cases reported to the ADRAC, 29 reports documented concomitant corticosteroid use, and in 21 of the other 31 reports the patients were aged 69 years or older. In the reports of tendon rupture, 12 of the 14 described either concomitant steroid use (9) or old age (9).
Prescribers are reminded to be alert for this reaction and to withdraw the fluoroquinolone immediately when symptoms of tendinitis appear in order to reduce the risk of tendon rupture.
[See also Pharmaceuticals Newsletter Nos. 7&8, July&August 1997.]
Tendinitis associated with Fluoroquinolone therapy
(Pharmaceuticals Newsletters Nos 7&8 July & August 1997)
Australia

2. 93 ruptures, 103 tendinopathies, 20 tenasynovitis, 1987-1997
Source: http://www.sma.org/smj1999/junesmj99/harrell.pdf

3. Danesh-Meyer MJ.
Complicated management of a patient with rapidly progressive periodontitis: a case report.
J N Z Soc Periodontol. 1997;(82):25-9. No abstract available.
PMID: 10483437 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. Poon CC, Sundaram NA.
Spontaneous bilateral Achilles tendon rupture associated with ciprofloxacin.
Med J Aust. 1997 Jun 16;166(12):665. No abstract available.
PMID: 9216589 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Shinohara YT, Tasker SA, Wallace MR, Couch KE, Olson PE.
What is the risk of Achilles tendon rupture with ciprofloxacin?
J Rheumatol. 1997 Jan;24(1):238-9. No abstract available.
PMID: 9002057 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Movin T, Gad A, Guntner P, Foldhazy Z, Rolf C.
Pathology of the Achilles tendon in association with ciprofloxacin treatment.
Foot Ankle Int. 1997 May;18(5):297-9.
PMID: 9167931 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

7. Tendons and Fluoroquinolones; Unresolved issues
Kahn et al (Rev Rhum [Engl. Ed.] 1997 64(7-9) 437-439)
(Rev Rhum [Ed. Fr.] 1997 64(7-9) 511-513

8. Fluoroquinolones tendinitis update Australia
Tendinitis associated with Fluoroquinolone therapy
(Pharmaceuticals Newsletters Nos 7&8 July & August 1997)

9. Toxic effects of quinolone antibacterial agents on the musculoskeletal system in juvenile rats
Yoko Kashida et al (Toxicologic Pathology vol 25 number 6 pages 635-643 1997)

10. Tendinitis and tendon rupture with fluoroquinolones
ADRAC (The Achilles heel of fluoroquinolones Aust Adv Drug React Bull 1997;16;7, Szarfman et al)

11. Effects of Ciprofloxacin and Ofloxacin on adult human cartilage in vitro
(Antimicrob Agents Chemother 1997, Vol 41; issue 11; pages 2562-2565)

12. Repeated rupture of the extensor tendons of the hand due to fluoroquinolones, Apropos of a case
Levadoux et al (Ann Chir Main Memb Super 1997, vol 16, issue 2, pgs 130-133)

13. Benizeau I, Cambon-Michot C, Daragon A, Voisin L, Mejjad O, Thomine JM, Le Loet X.
Tendinitis of the tibialis anterior with histologic documentation in a patient under fluoroquinolone therapy.
Rev Rhum Engl Ed. 1997 Jun;64(6):432-3. No abstract available.
PMID: 9513620 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1998

1. Khan KM, Cook JL, Bonar SF, Harcourt PR.
Subcutaneous rupture of the Achilles tendon.
Br J Sports Med. 1998 Jun;32(2):184-5. No abstract available.
PMID: 9631234 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2. Stafford L, Bertouch J.
Reactive arthritis and ruptured Achilles tendon.
Ann Rheum Dis. 1998 Jan;57(1):61. No abstract available.
PMID: 9536827 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3. Kahn MF.
Achilles tendinitis and ruptures.
Br J Sports Med. 1998 Sep;32(3):266. No abstract available.
PMID: 9773187 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. van der Linden PD, van Puijenbroek EP, Feenstra J, Veld BA, Sturkenboom MC, Herings RM, Leufkens HG, Stricker BH.
Tendon disorders attributed to fluoroquinolones: a study on 42 spontaneous reports in the period 1988 to 1998. Arthritis Rheum. 2001 Jun;45(3):235-9.
PMID: 11409663 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Blanco Andres C, Bravo Toledo R.
[Bilateral tendinitis caused by ciprofloxacin]
Aten Primaria. 1998 Feb 28;21(3):184-5. Spanish. No abstract available.
PMID: 9607242 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Tendon disorders attributed to fluoroquinolones; a study on 42 spontaneous reports in the period 1988-1998
Van Der Linden et al (American College of Rheumatology; Arthritis Care and Research 45; 2001 pages 235-239)

7. Petersen W, Laprell H
[Insidious rupture of the Achilles tendon after ciprofloxacin-induced tendopathy. A case report]
Unfallchirurg. 1998 Sep;101(9):731-4. German.
PMID: 9816984 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

8. Voorn R.
Case report: can sacroiliac joint dysfunction cause chronic Achilles
tendinitis?
J Orthop Sports Phys Ther. 1998 Jun;27(6):436-43.
PMID: 9617730 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

9. West MB, Gow P.
Ciprofloxacin, bilateral Achilles tendonitis and unilateral tendon rupture--a case report.
N Z Med J. 1998 Jan 23;111(1058):18-9. No abstract available.
PMID: 9484431 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

10. Gabutti L, Stoller R, Marti HP.
[Fluoroquinolones as etiology of tendinopathy]
Ther Umsch. 1998 Sep;55(9):558-61. German.
PMID: 9789471 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

11. NETHERLANDS
704 achilles tendinitis, 38 ruptures 1992-1998 Netherlands
Fluoroquinolone use and the change in incidence of tendon rupture in the Netherlands
Van der Linden et al (Pharmacy World and Science vol 23 no 3 2001 pg 89-92)
The cohort included 46 776 users of fluoroquinolones between 1 July 1992 and 30 June 30 1998, of whom 704 had Achilles tendinitis and 38 had Achilles tendon rupture
source: http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7349/1306

12. 42 spontaneous reports 1988-1998
Tendon disorders attributed to fluoroquinolones; a study on 42 spontaneous reports in the period 1988-1998
Van Der Linden et al (American College of Rheumatology; Arthritis Care and Research 45; 2001 pages 235-239) June 2001
http://www.rheumatology.org/arhp/acnr/2001/0106.html


1999

1. Eriksson E.
In vivo microdialysis of painful achilles tendinosis.
Knee Surg Sports Traumatol Arthrosc. 1999;7(6):339. No abstract available.
PMID: 10639649 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2. Mousa A, Jones S, Toft A, Perros P.
Spontaneous rupture of Achilles tendon: missed presentation of Cushing's syndrome.
BMJ. 1999 Aug 28;319(7209):560-1. No abstract available.
PMID: 10463901 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3. Harrell RM.
Fluoroquinolone-induced tendinopathy: what do we know?
South Med J. 1999 Jun;92(6):622-5. Review.
PMID: 10372859 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. Gibbon WW, Cooper JR, Radcliffe GS.
Sonographic incidence of tendon microtears in athletes with chronic Achilles tendinosis.
Br J Sports Med. 1999 Apr;33(2):129-30.
PMID: 10205697 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Lewis JR, Gums JG, Dickensheets DL.
Levofloxacin-induced bilateral Achilles tendonitis.
Ann Pharmacother. 1999 Jul-Aug;33(7-8):792-5.
PMID: 10466906 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Zambanini A, Padley S, Cox A, Feher M.
Achilles tendonitis: an unusual complication of amlodipine therapy.
J Hum Hypertens. 1999 Aug;13(8):565-6. No abstract available.
PMID: 10455480 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

7. van der Linden PD, van de Lei J, Nab HW, Knol A, Stricker BH.
Achilles tendinitis associated with fluoroquinolones.
Br J Clin Pharmacol. 1999 Sep;48(3):433-7.
PMID: 10510157 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

8. Van der Linden PD, van de Lei J, Nab HW, Knol A, Stricker BHCh. Achilles tendinitis associated with fluoroquinolones. Br J Clin Pharmacol 1999; 48: 433-437[CrossRef][ISI][Medline].

9. 60 reported tendonitis August 1999
Fluoroquinolones tendinitis update Australia
Tendinitis associated with Fluoroquinolone therapy
(Pharmaceuticals Newsletters Nos 7&8 July & August 1997)
Australia
ADRAC Bulletin, vol 18, No 3, August 1999
Tendinitis and tendon rupture with
fluoroquinolones
The Adverse Drug Reactions Advisory Committee (ADRAC) first reported tendinitis in association with the fluoroquinolone antibiotics in 1997. The Committee has continued to monitor this adverse
reaction, and has now received 60 reports of tendinitis, tenosynovitis and/or tendon rupture in association with these drugs. Most involved was ciprofloxacin (55), but there were also reports with norfloxacin (4) and enoxacin (1). Fortyfive reports described tendinitis alone, one report described tenosynovitis, and 14 reports documented tendon tear or rupture. Fifty five of the 60 reports specified the Achilles tendon, including 20 which described bilateral
Achilles tendon damage. All 14 reports of tendon rupture
involved the Achilles tendon.
Source: http://www.who.int/medicines/library/pnewslet/pndec99.html

10. 421 reported tendon disorders and 81 tendon ruptures 1999
Therapie 1996; 51: 419-420 Tendon disorders with fluoroquinolones 421 cases have been collected by the Centre de Pharmacovigilance, 340 of tendinitis and 81 cases of tendon rupture.

11. Rev Rhum Engl Ed. 1999 Jul-Sep;66(7-9):419-21.
Suspected role of ofloxacin in a case of arthalgia, myalgia, and multiple tendinopathy.

12. Levofloxacin-induced bilateral Achilles tendonitis
Lewis JR, JG Gums, and DL Dickensheets 1999

13. Inhibition of fibroblast metabolism by a fluoroquinolone antibiotic
Williams et al (American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons, 1999 Annual meeting, paper number 118, Geb 5, 1999)

14. Levofloxacin induced bilateral achilles tendinitis
Lewis et al (The Annals of Pharmacotherapy 1999 July/August, volume 33 pages 792-795)

15. Fluoroquinolone induced tendinopathy; what do we know?
Harrell et al (South Med J 92(6) 622-625 1999)

16. Ann Pharmacother. 1999 Jul-Aug;33(7-8):792-5.
Levofloxacin-induced bilateral Achilles tendonitis.

17. Schwald N, Debray-Meignan S.
Suspected role of ofloxacin in a case of arthalgia, myalgia, and multiple tendinopathy.
Rev Rhum Engl Ed. 1999 Jul-Sep;66(7-9):419-21.
PMID: 10526383 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


2000

1. Fluoroquinolone induced tendinopathy; also occurring with levofloxacin
Fleisch et al (Infection 28 2000 no 4 pages 256-257)

2. Infection. 2000 Jul-Aug;28(4):256-7.
Fluoroquinolone-induced tendinopathy: also occurring with levofloxacin.

3. Quinolone and Tendon Ruptures
Casperian et al (Southern Medical Journal May 2000 vol 93 no 5 pages 488-491)

4. Evaluation of toxicokinetic variables and arthropathic changes in juvenile rabbits after oral administration of an ivestigational fluoroquinolone, pd 117596
Johnson et al (AJVR vol 61 no 11, pages, 1396-1402, November 2000)

5. Rupture of the patellar ligament one month after treatment with fluoroquinolone
Rev Chir Orthop Reparatrice Appar Mot. 2000 Sep;86(5):495-7.

6. FINLAND
42 reported tendinopathies 2000
Finland:
Register of adverse drug reactions in 2000

7. The majority of ADR reports received among antibacterials concerned levofloxacin, which is a fluoroquinolone antibiotic. Fourteen of the reports were on tendinitis or rupture of the Achilles tendon. Tendinitis caused by fluoroquinolones was discussed in TABU for the first time in 1996. Since then the ADR register has received a total of 42 reports on tendinopathies caused by
fluoroquinolones, over a third of which were ruptures of the tendon.
The use of fluoroquinolones has in-creased by about 75% since 1996. Levofloxacin is responsible for the major part of this increase. It has been marketed in Finland since mid 1998.
source: www.nam.fi/uploads/english/Publications/Tabu/tabu22001_eng.pdf

8. Casado Burgos E, Vinas Ponce G, Lauzurica Valdemoros R, Olive Marques A.
[Levofloxacin-induced tendinitis]
Med Clin (Barc). 2000 Mar 4;114(8):319. Spanish. No abstract available.
PMID: 10774524 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

9. Casparian JM, Luchi M, Moffat RE, Hinthorn D.
Quinolones and tendon ruptures.
South Med J. 2000 May;93(5):488-91. Review.
PMID: 10832946 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

10. Gravlee JR, Hatch RL, Galea AM.
Achilles tendon rupture: a challenging diagnosis.
J Am Board Fam Pract. 2000 Sep-Oct;13(5):371-3. No abstract available.
PMID: 11001009 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

11. Kouvalchouk JF, Hassan E
[Achilles tendon disorders]
Tunis Med. 2000 Jun-Jul;78(6-7):462-7. Review. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 11043038 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

12. Ortiz V, Holgado S, Olive A, Fite E.
Ach illes tendinitis as the presentation form of Lofgren's syndrome.
Clin Rheumatol. 2000;19(2):169-70.
PMID: 10791635 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

13. Vavra-Hadziahmetovic N, Hadziahmetovic Z, Smajlovic F.
Phy sical therapy in conservative (functional) treatment of acute achilles tendon rupture.
Med Arh. 2000;54(2):121-2.
PMID: 10934845 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

14. Martinelli B.
Rupture of the Achilles tendon.
J Bone Joint Surg Am. 2000 Dec;82-A(12):1804. No abstract available.
PMID: 11130653 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


2001

1. Rev Clin Esp. 2001 Sep;201(9):539-40.
Achilles pain and functional impotence in a patient with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease with pneumonia. Tendon rupture caused by levofloxacin

2. Pharm World Sci. 2001 Jun;23(3):89-92.
Fluoroquinolone use and the change in incidence of tendon ruptures in the Netherlands.
van der Linden PD, Nab HW, Simonian S, Stricker BH, Leufkens HG, Herings RM.

3. Mennecier D, Thiolet C, Bredin C, Potier V, Vergeau B, Farret O.
[Acute pancreatitis after treatment by levofloxacin and methylprednisolone]
Gastroenterol Clin Biol. 2001 Oct;25(10):921-2. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 11852403 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. Csizy M, Hintermann B.
[Rupture of the Achilles tendon after local steroid injection. Case reports and consequences for treatment]
Swiss Surg. 2001;7(4):184-9. German.
PMID: 11515194 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Adverse reactions to fluoroquinolones an overview on mechanistic aspects
De Sarro et al (Current Medicinal Chemistry 2001, 8, 371-384)

6. Fluoroquinolone use and the change in incidence of tendon rupture in the Netherlands
Van der Linden et al (Pharmacy World and Science vol 23 no 3 2001 pg 89-92)

7. Tendon disorders attributed to fluoroquinolones; a study on 42 spontaneous reports in the period 1988-1998
Van Der Linden et al (American College of Rheumatology; Arthritis Care and Research 45; 2001 pages 235-239)

8. 1847 reported tendinopathies December 2001
Tabelle 7
Pharmacovigilance: Meldungen von Tendinopathien im Vergleich zu allen gemeldeten unerwünschten Arzneimittelwirkungen (UAW), Stand 17. Dezember 2001.

9. Meldungen Schweiz (IKS-Datenbank) Welt (WHO-Datenbank)
Tendinopathie alle UAW Tendinopathie alle UAW
Ciprofloxacin 8 (5%) 155 649(2,2%) 29 090
Fleroxacin 9 (1,2 %) 754
Norfloxacin 1 (1%) 91 163 (2,1%) 7536
Ofloxacin 2 (6%) 34 432 (1,8%) 23 990
Levofloxacin 32 (41%) 79 576 (7,8%) 7432
Moxifloxacin 18 (4,5 %) 4030
Source: http://www.saez.ch/pdf/2003/2003-02/2003-02-694.PDF
http://www.saez.ch/pdf/2003/2003-02/2003-02-694.PDF

10. U.S. ARMED FORCES
Spontaneous Ruptures of the Achilles Tendon, US Armed Forces, 1998-2001
Methods. The Defense Medical Surveillance System was searched to identify all incident ambulatory visits of active duty servicemembers with a primary diagnosis of non-traumatic rupture of the achilles tendon (ICD-9- CM code 727.67) and other tendon ruptures (ICD-9- CM codes 727.60-727.66, 727.68-727.69) between January 1998 and May 2001.
The most striking finding of this analysis is the sudden and significant increase in rates of achilles tendon ruptures beginning in calendar year 2000. The increase was manifested across all Services and in most demographic subgroups (table 1). Rates
of non-traumatic ruptures of several other tendons also increased during the period; and increases in ruptures of the rotator cuff were comparable to those of the achilles tendon.
Source: http://amsa.army.mil/1Msmr/2002/v08_n01.pdf

11. Nuno Mateo FJ, Noval Menendez J, Suarez M, Guinea O.
[Achilles pain and functional impotence in a patient with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease with pneumonia. Tendon rupture caused by levofloxacin]
Rev Clin Esp. 2001 Sep;201(9):539-40. Spanish. No abstract available.
PMID: 11692412 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

12. Malaguti M, Triolo L, Biagini M.
Ciprofloxacin-associated Achilles tendon rupture in a hemodialysis patient.
J Nephrol. 2001 Sep-Oct;14(5):431-2. No abstract available.
PMID: 11730281 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

13. Butler MW, Griffin JF, Quinlan WR, McDonnell TJ.
Quinolone-associated tendonitis: a potential problem in COPD?
Ir J Med Sci. 2001 Jul-Sep;170(3):198-9.
PMID: 12120977 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

14. Bharani A, Kumar H.
Drug points: Diabetes inspidus induced by ofloxacin.
BMJ. 2001 Sep 8;323(7312):547. No abstract available.
PMID: 11546701 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

15. Toverud EL, Landaas S, Hellebostad M.
Repeated achilles tendinitis after high dose methotrexate.
Med Pediatr Oncol. 2001 Aug;37(2):156. No abstract available.
PMID: 11496361 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

16. Oatridge A, Herlihy AH, Thomas RW, Wallace AL, Curati WL, Hajnal JV, Bydder GM.
Magnetic resonance: magic angle imaging of the Achilles tendon.
Lancet. 2001 Nov 10;358(9293):1610-1.
PMID: 11716890 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

17. Fletcher MD, Warren PJ.
Sural nerve injury associated with neglected tendo Achilles ruptures.
Br J Sports Med. 2001 Apr;35(2):131-2.
PMID: 11273977 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

18. Humble RN, Nugent LL.
Achilles' tendonitis. An overview and reconditioning model.
Clin Podiatr Med Surg. 2001 Apr;18(2):233-54. Review.
PMID: 11417153 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

19. Eriksson E.
Achilles tendon surgery and wound healing.
Knee Surg Sports Traumatol Arthrosc. 2001 Jul;9(4):193. No abstract available.
PMID: 11522072 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

20. Speed CA.
Fortnightly review: Corticosteroid injections in tendon lesions.
BMJ. 2001 Aug 18;323(7309):382-6. No abstract available.
PMID: 11509432 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

21. Van der Linden et al (Pharmacy World and Science vol 23 no 3 2001 pg 89-92)
The cohort included 46 776 users of fluoroquinolones between 1 July 1992 and 30 June 30 1998, of whom 704 had Achilles tendinitis and 38 had Achilles tendon rupture
source: http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7349/1306


2002

1. Ulreich N, Kainberger F, Huber W, Nehrer S.
[Achilles tendon and sports]
Radiologe. 2002 Oct;42(10):811-7. German.
PMID: 12402109 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2. Doral MN, Tetik O, Atay OA, Leblebicioglu G, Oznur A.
[Achilles tendon diseases and its management]
Acta Orthop Traumatol Turc. 2002;36 Suppl 1:42-6. Review. Turkish. No abstract available.
PMID: 12510123 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3. Hersh BL, Heath NS.
Achilles tendon rupture as a result of oral steroid therapy.
J Am Podiatr Med Assoc. 2002 Jun;92(6):355-8.
PMID: 12070236 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. [No authors listed]
Side effects of levofloxacin.
Prescrire Int. 2002 Aug;11(60):116-7. No abstract available.
PMID: 12199267 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Hatori M, Matsuda M, Kokubun S.
Ossification of Achilles tendon--report of three cases.
Arch Orthop Trauma Surg. 2002 Sep;122(7):414-7. Epub 2002 May 03.
PMID: 12228804 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Pouzaud F, Rat P, Cambourieu C, Nourry H, Warnet JM.
[Tenotoxic potential of fluoroquinolones in the choice of surgical antibiotic prophylaxis in ophthalmology]
J Fr Ophtalmol. 2002 Nov;25(9):921-6. French.
PMID: 12515937 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

7. Sobel E, Giorgini R, Hilfer J, Rostkowski T.
Ossification of a ruptured achilles tendon: a case report in a diabetic patient.
J Foot Ankle Surg. 2002 Sep-Oct;41(5):330-4.
PMID: 12400718 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

8. Lohrer H, Scholl J, Arentz S.
[Achilles tendinopathy and patellar tendinopathy. Results of radial shockwave therapy in patients with unsuccessfully treated tendinoses] Sportverletz Sportschaden. 2002 Sep;16(3):108-14. German. No abstract available.
PMID: 12382183 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

9. Eriksen HA, Pajala A, Leppilahti J, Risteli J.
Increased content of type III collagen at the rupture site of human Achilles tendon.
J Orthop Res. 2002 Nov;20(6):1352-7.
PMID: 12472252 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

10. Kannus P, Paavola M, Paakkala T, Parkkari J, Jarvinen T, Jarvinen M.
[Pathophysiology of overuse tendon injury]
Radiologe. 2002 Oct;42(10):766-70. German.
PMID: 12402104 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

11. Summers JB.
Importance of an accurate diagnosis for Achilles rupture.
Am Fam Physician. 2002 Nov 15;66(10):1836. No abstract available.
PMID: 12469956 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

12. Ulreich N, Huber W, Nehrer S, Kainberger F.
[High resolution magnetic resonance tomography and ultrasound imaging of the Achilles tendon]
Wien Med Wochenschr Suppl. 2002;(113):39-40. German.
PMID: 12621837 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

13. Dwornik L, Lomasney LM, Demos TC, Lavery LA.
Radiologic case study. Acute Achilles tendon rupture.
Orthopedics. 2002 Nov;25(11):1239, 1318-20. No abstract available.
PMID: 12452339 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

14. Wood ML, Schlessinger S.
Levaquin induced acute tubulointerstitial nephritis--two case reports.
J Miss State Med Assoc. 2002 Apr;43(4):116-7. No abstract available.
PMID: 11989200 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

15. McClelland D, Maffulli N.
Percutaneous repair of ruptured Achilles tendon.
J R Coll Surg Edinb. 2002 Aug;47(4):613-8. Review.
PMID: 12363186 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

16. Eriksson E.
Tendinosis of the patellar and achilles tendon.
Knee Surg Sports Traumatol Arthrosc. 2002 Jan;10(1):1. Epub 2001 Dec 18. No abstract available.
PMID: 11819012 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

17. Bleakney RR, Tallon C, Wong JK, Lim KP, Maffulli N.
Long-term ultrasonographic features of the Achilles tendon after rupture.
Clin J Sport Med. 2002 Sep;12(5):273-8.
PMID: 12394198 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

18. Majewski M, Widmer KH, Steinbruck K.
[Achilles tendon ruptures: 25 year's experience in sport-orthopedic treatment]
Sportverletz Sportschaden. 2002 Dec;16(4):167-73. German.
PMID: 12563559 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

19. Cook JL, Khan KM, Purdam C.
Achilles tendinopathy.
Man Ther. 2002 Aug;7(3):121-30. Review.
PMID: 12372309 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

20. Shukla DD.
Bilateral spontaneous rupture of achilles tendon secondary to limb ischemia: a case report.
J Foot Ankle Surg. 2002 Sep-Oct;41(5):328-9.
PMID: 12400717 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

21. Grechenig W, Clement H, Bratschitsch G, Fankhauser F, Peicha G.
[Ultrasound diagnosis of the Achilles tendon]
Orthopade. 2002 Mar;31(3):319-25. German.
PMID: 12017866 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

22. Mazzone MF, McCue T.
Common conditions of the achilles tendon.
Am Fam Physician. 2002 May 1;65(9):1805-10. Review.
PMID: 12018803 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

23. Schepsis AA, Jones H, Haas AL.
Achilles tendon disorders in athletes.
Am J Sports Med. 2002 Mar-Apr;30(2):287-305. Review.
PMID: 11912103 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

24. Fluoroquinolones and risk of Achilles tendon disorders: case-control study BMJ 2002;324:1306-1307 ( 1 June ) P D van der Linden, researcher a, M C J M Sturkenboom, assistant professor a, R M C Herings, associate professor b, H G M Leufkens, professor b, B H Ch Stricker, professor a.
a Pharmaco-epidemiology Unit, Department of Epidemiology & Biostatistics and Internal Medicine, Erasmus Medical Centre Rotterdam, PO Box 1738, 3000 DR Rotterdam, Netherlands, b Department of Pharmaco-epidemiology and Pharmacotherapy, Utrecht Institute for Pharmaceutical Sciences, Utrecht University, Utrecht, Netherlands

25. Pai VS, Patel N.
Atypical coronal or sagittal Z ruptures of the achilles tendon: a report of four cases.
J Foot Ankle Surg. 2002 May-Jun;41(3):183-5.
PMID: 12075907 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

26. van der Linden PD, Sturkenboom MC, Herings RM, Leufkens HG, Stricker BH.
Fluoroquinolones and risk of Achilles tendon disorders: case-control study.
BMJ. 2002 Jun 1;324(7349):1306-7. No abstract available.
PMID: 12039823 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

27. Tiling T.
[Is an Achilles tendon rupture without degeneration possible?]
Dtsch Med Wochenschr. 2002 Jun 21;127(25-26):1401. German. No abstract available.
PMID: 12075502 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

28. Med Clin (Barc). 2003 Jan 25;120(2):78-9.
Comment on: Med Clin (Barc). 2002 Jun 8;119(1):38-9.
Levofloxacin and bilateral spontaneous Achilles tendon rupture

29. 4 cases of levaquin induced tendintis (orign spansih)
Mica magazine of Chile Issn0034-9887 versi printed
Rev. m. Chilev.130n.11Santiagonov.2002
Rev Méd Chile 2002; 130: 1277-1281
Associated aquiliana Tendinitis to the levofloxacino use:
communication of four cases
Claudius Hoops And, Claudius Flowers W, Sergio Mezzano A.
Levofloxacin associated Achilles

29. Pedros A, Emilio Gomez J, Angel Navarro L, Tomas A.
[Levofloxacin and acute confusional syndrome]
Med Clin (Barc). 2002 Jun 8;119(1):38-9. Spanish. No abstract available.
PMID: 12062009 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

30. Maffulli N, Kader D.
Tendinopathy of tendo achillis.
J Bone Joint Surg Br. 2002 Jan;84(1):1-8. Review. No abstract available.
PMID: 11837811 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

31. Sidorenko SV, Krivitskaia NS
[Use of ciprofloxacin in sequential antibiotic therapy]
Antibiot Khimioter. 2002;47(7):25-30. Review. Russian. No abstract available.
PMID: 12516193 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

32. Paavola M, Kannus P, Jarvinen TA, Khan K, Jozsa L, Jarvinen M.
Achilles tendinopathy.
J Bone Joint Surg Am. 2002 Nov;84-A(11):2062-76. Review. No abstract available.
PMID: 12429771 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

33. Roberts C, Deliss L.:
Acute rupture of tendo Achillis.
J Bone Joint Surg Br. 2002 May;84(4):620; author reply 620. No abstract available.
PMID: 12043793 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

34. Tumia N, Kader D, Arena B, Maffulli N
Achilles tendinopathy during pregnancy.
Clin J Sport Med. 2002 Jan;12(1):43-5. No abstract available.
PMID: 11854590 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

35. Paffey MD, Faraj AA.
Acute rupture of tendo Achillis.
J Bone Joint Surg Br. 2002 May;84(4):620-1; author reply 621. No abstract available.
PMID: 12043792 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

36. Chhajed PN, Plit ML, Hopkins PM, Malouf MA, Glanville AR.
Achilles tendon disease in lung transplant recipients: association with ciprofloxacin.
Eur Respir J. 2002 Mar;19(3):469-71.
PMID: 11936524 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

37. Greene BL.Physical therapist management of fluoroquinolone-induced Achilles tendinopathy.
Phys Ther. 2002 Dec;82(12):1224-31.
PMID: 12444881 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

38. Breck RW.
"Ciprofloxacin: a warning for clinicians".
Conn Med. 2002 Oct;66(10):635. No abstract available.
PMID: 12448217 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

39. Hufner T, Wohifarth K, Fink M, Thermann H, Rollnik JD.
EMG monitoring during functional non-surgical therapy of Achilles tendon rupture.
Foot Ankle Int. 2002 Jul;23(7):614-8.
PMID: 12146771 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

40. Khurana R, Torzillo PJ, Horsley M, Mahoney J.
Spontaneous bilateral rupture of the Achilles tendon in a patient with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
Respirology. 2002 Jun;7(2):161-3.
PMID: 11985741 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

41. Mert G.
Rupture of the Achilles tendon in athletes: do synthetic grass fields play a part?
J Bone Joint Surg Am. 2002 Feb;84-A(2):320-1. No abstract available.
PMID: 11861742 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

42. Lynch RM
Management of Achilles tendon ruptures.
Am J Sports Med. 2002 Nov-Dec;30(6):917; author reply 917-8. No abstract
available.
PMID: 12435663 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

43. Amendola N.
Surgical treatment of acute rupture of the tendo Achillis led to fewer
reruptures and better patient-generated ratings than did nonsurgical treatment.
J Bone Joint Surg Am. 2002 Feb;84-A(2):324. No abstract available.
PMID: 11861747 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

44. Zwar RB.
Utility of musculoskeletal ultrasound.
Aust Fam Physician. 2002 Jun;31(6):559, 561.
PMID: 12154604 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

45. Cottrell WC, Pearsall AW 4th, Hollis MJ.
Simultaneous tears of the Achilles tendon and medial head of the gastrocnemius muscle.
Orthopedics. 2002 Jun;25(6):685-7. No abstract available.
PMID: 12083581 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


2003

1. Journal of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy (2003) 51, 747–748
DOI: 10.1093/jac/dkg081
Advance Access publication 28 January 2003
Correspondence
Spontaneous Achilles tendon rupture in patients
treated with levofloxacin
L. J. Haddow, M. Chandra Sekhar, V. Hajela and
G. Gopal Rao

2. Manoj Kumar RV, Rajasekaran S.
Spontaneous tendon ruptures in alkaptonuria.
J Bone Joint Surg Br. 2003 Aug;85(6):883-6.
PMID: 12931812 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3. Harris RD, Nindl G, Balcavage WX, Weiner W, Johnson MT.
Use of proteomics methodology to evaluate inflammatory protein expression in tendinitis.
Biomed Sci Instrum. 2003;39:493-9.
PMID: 12724941 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. Milgrom C, Finestone A, Zin D, Mandel D, Novack V.
Cold weather training: a risk factor for Achilles paratendinitis among
recruits.
Foot Ankle Int. 2003 May;24(5):398-401.
PMID: 12801195 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Schwalm JD, Lee CH.
Acute hepatitis associated with oral levofloxacin therapy in a hemodialysis patient.
CMAJ. 2003 Apr 1;168(7):847-8.
PMID: 12668542 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Oh YR, Carr-Lopez SM, Probasco JM, Crawley PG.
Levofloxacin-induced autoimmune hemolytic anemia.
Ann Pharmacother. 2003 Jul-Aug;37(7-8):1010-3.
PMID: 12841809 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

7. Bardin L.
Comments on 'Achilles tendinopathy'.
Man Ther. 2003 Aug;8(3):189; author reply 190-1. No abstract available.
PMID: 12909446 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

8. Ackermann PW, Li J, Lundeberg T, Kreicbergs A.
Neuronal plasticity in relation to nociception and healing of rat achilles tendon.
J Orthop Res. 2003 May;21(3):432-41.
PMID: 12706015 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

9. Gotoh M, Higuchi F, Suzuki R, Yamanaka K.
Progression from calcifying tendinitis to rotator cuff tear.
Skeletal Radiol. 2003 Feb;32(2):86-9. Epub 2002 Apr 05.
PMID: 12589487 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

10. Dalal RB, Zenios M.
The flexor hallucis longus tendon transfer for chronic tendo-achilles ruptures revisited. Ann R Coll Surg Engl. 2003 Jul;85(4):283. No abstract available.
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11. Joseph TA, Defranco MJ, Weiker GG.
Delayed repair of a pectoralis major tendon rupture with allograft: A case report.
J Shoulder Elbow Surg. 2003 Jan-Feb;12(1):101-4. No abstract available.
PMID: 12610495 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

12. [No authors listed]
Tendon abnormalities and hypersensitivity of levofloxacin.
Prescrire Int. 2003 Feb;12(63):20. No abstract available.
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13. Magnusson SP, Beyer N, Abrahamsen H, Aagaard P, Neergaard K, Kjaer M.
Increased cross-sectional area and reduced tensile stress of the Achilles tendon in elderly compared with young women.
J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci. 2003 Feb;58(2):123-7.
PMID: 12586849 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

14. Khan KM, Forster BB, Robinson J, Cheong Y, Louis L, Maclean L, Taunton JE.
Are ultrasound and magnetic resonance imaging of value in assessment of Achilles tendon disorders? A two year prospective study.
Br J Sports Med. 2003 Apr;37(2):149-53.
PMID: 12663358 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

15. DY, Song JC, Wang CC.
Anaphylactoid reaction to ciprofloxacin.
Ann Pharmacother. 2003 Jul-Aug;37(7-8):1018-23.
PMID: 12841811 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

16. Ying M, Yeung E, Li B, Li W, Lui M, Tsoi CW.
Sonographic evaluation of the size of Achilles tendon: the effect of exercise and dominance of the ankle.
Ultrasound Med Biol. 2003 May;29(5):637-42.
PMID: 12754062 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

17. Cook J, Khan K.
The treatment of resistant, painful tendinopathies results in frustration for athletes and health professionals alike.
Am J Sports Med. 2003 Mar-Apr;31(2):327-8; author reply 328. No abstract available.
PMID: 12642274 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

18. [No authors listed]
Fluoroquinolones in ambulatory ENT and respiratory tract infections: rarely appropriate.
Prescrire Int. 2003 Feb;12(63):26-7.
PMID: 12602405 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

19. Matsumoto F, Trudel G, Uhthoff HK, Backman DS.
Mechanical effects of immobilization on the Achilles' tendon.
Arch Phys Med Rehabil. 2003 May;84(5):662-7.
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20. Maffulli N, Kenward MG, Testa V, Capasso G, Regine R, King JB.
Clinical diagnosis of Achilles tendinopathy with tendinosis.
Clin J Sport Med. 2003 Jan;13(1):11-5.
PMID: 12544158 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

21. Forslund C.
BMP treatment for improving tendon repair. Studies on rat and rabbit Achilles tendons.
Acta Orthop Scand Suppl. 2003 Feb;74(308):I, 1-30. No abstract available.
PMID: 12640969 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

22. Cetti R, Junge J, Vyberg M.
Spontaneous rupture of the Achilles tendon is preceded by widespread and bilateral tendon damage and ipsilateral inflammation: a clinical and histopathologic study of 60 patients.
Acta Orthop Scand. 2003 Feb;74(1):78-84.
PMID: 12635798 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

23. Mulvaney S.
Calf muscle therapy for Achilles tendinosis.
Am Fam Physician. 2003 Mar 1;67(5):939; author reply 939-40. No abstract available.
PMID: 12643353 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

24. Khaliq Y, Zhanel GG.
Fluoroquinolone-associated tendinopathy: a critical review of the literature.
Clin Infect Dis. 2003 Jun 1;36(11):1404-10. Epub 2003 May 20. Review.
PMID: 12766835 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

25. Prasad S, Lee A, Clarnette R, Faull R.
Spontaneous, bilateral patellar tendon rupture in a woman with previous Achilles tendon rupture and systemic lupus erythematosus.
Rheumatology (Oxford). 2003 Jul;42(7):905-6. No abstract available.
PMID: 12826711 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

26. Gold L, Igra H.
Levofloxacin-induced tendon rupture: a case report and review of the literature.
J Am Board Fam Pract. 2003 Sep-Oct;16(5):458-60. Review. No abstract available.
PMID: 14645337 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

27. Schindler C, Pittrow D, Kirch W.
Reoccurrence of levofloxacin-induced tendinitis by phenoxymethylpenicillin therapy after 6 months: a rare complication of fluoroquinolone therapy?
Chemotherapy. 2003 May;49(1-2):90-1. No abstract available.
PMID: 12756981 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

28. de La Red G, Mejia JC, Cervera R, Llado A, Mensa J, Font J.
Bilateral Achilles tendinitis with spontaneous rupture induced by levofloxacin in a patient with systemic sclerosis.
Clin Rheumatol. 2003 Oct;22(4-5):367-8. No abstract available.
PMID: 14579169 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

29. Tomas ME, Perez Carreras M, Morillasa JD, Castellano G, Solis JA.
[Rupture of the Achilles' tendon secondary to levofloxacin]
Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2003 Jan;26(1):53-4. Spanish. No abstract available.
PMID: 12525331 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

30. Mathis AS, Chan V, Gryszkiewicz M, Adamson RT, Friedman GS.
Levofloxacin-associated Achilles tendon rupture.
Ann Pharmacother. 2003 Jul-Aug;37(7-8):1014-7.
PMID: 12841810 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

31. Aros C, Flores C, Mezzano S.[Achilles tendinitis associated to levofloxacin: report of 4 cases]
Rev Med Chil. 2002 Nov;130(11):1277-81. Spanish.
PMID: 12587511 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

32. Shah P.[Do tendon lesions occur during quinolone administration?]
Dtsch Med Wochenschr. 2003 Oct 17;128(42):2214. German. No abstract available.
PMID: 14562223 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

33. Melhus A, Apelqvist J, Larsson J, Eneroth M.
Levofloxacin-associated Achilles tendon rupture and tendinopathy.
Scand J Infect Dis. 2003;35(10):768-70.
PMID: 14606622 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

34. Cebrian P, Manjon P, Caba P.
Ultrasonography of non-traumatic rupture of the Achilles tendon secondary to
levofloxacin.
Foot Ankle Int. 2003 Feb;24(2):122-4.
PMID: 12627618 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

35. Bernacer L, Artigues A, Serrano A.
[Levofloxacin and bilateral spontaneous Achilles tendon rupture]
Med Clin (Barc). 2003 Jan 25;120(2):78-9. Spanish. No abstract available.
PMID: 12570920 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

36. Haddow LJ, Chandra Sekhar M, Hajela V, Gopal Rao G.
Spontaneous Achilles tendon rupture in patients treated with levofloxacin.
J Antimicrob Chemother. 2003 Mar;51(3):747-8. No abstract available.
PMID: 12615887 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

37. Othmani S, Battikh R, Ben Abdallah N.
[The myo-tendinopathy caused by levofloxacin]
Therapie. 2003 Sep-Oct;58(5):463-5. French. No abstract available.
PMID: 14682197 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

38. Gutierrez E, Morales E, Garcia Rubiales MA, Valentin MO.
[Levofloxacin and Achilles tendon involvement in hemodialysis patients]
Nefrologia. 2003 Nov-Dec;23(6):558-9. Spanish. No abstract available.
PMID: 15002793 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

40. Spontaneous Achilles tendon rupture in patients treated with levofloxacin
L. J. Haddow, M. Chandra Sekhar, V. Hajela and G. Gopal Rao*
Department of Microbiology, University Hospital Lewisham, Lewisham High Street, London SE13 6LH, UK 2003 The British Society for Antimicrobial Chemotherapy

41. Clinical Infectious Diseases 2003;36:1404-1410
2003 by the Infectious Diseases Society of America. All rights reserved.
Fluoroquinolone-Associated Tendinopathy: A Critical Review of the Literature
Yasmin Khaliq1 and George G. Zhanel2

42. J Am Podiatr Med Assoc. 2003 Jul-Aug;93(4):333-5.
Fluoroquinolone therapy and Achilles tendon rupture.
Vanek D, Saxena A, Boggs JM.

43. Clin Rheumatol. 2003 Dec;22(6):500-1. Epub 2003 Oct 18.
Ciprofloxacin and Achilles' tendon rupture: a causal relationship.

44. Aten Primaria. 2003 Sep 15;32(4):256
Bilateral Achilles tendinitis as adverse reaction to levofloxacine.

45. Therapie. 2003 Sep-Oct;58(5):463-5.
The myo-tendinopathy caused by levofloxacin

46. Reumatismo. 2003 Oct-Dec;55(4):267-9.
Levofloxacin-induced bilateral rupture of the Achilles tendon: clinical and sonographic findings

47. Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2003 Jan;26(1):53-4.
Rupture of the Achilles' tendon secondary to levofloxacin

48. J Antimicrob Chemother. 2003 Mar;51(3):747-8.
Spontaneous Achilles tendon rupture in patients treated with levofloxacin.

49. Foot Ankle Int. 2003 Feb;24(2):122-4.
Ultrasonography of non-traumatic rupture of the Achilles tendon secondary to levofloxacin.

50. Chemotherapy. 2003 May;49(1-2):90-1.
Reoccurrence of levofloxacin-induced tendinitis by phenoxymethylpenicillin therapy after 6 months: a rare complication of fluoroquinolone therapy?

51. rupture of the Achilles tendon: clinical and sonographic findings]
Reumatismo. 2003 Oct-Dec;55(4):267-9. Italian.
PMID: 14872227 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

52. Ann Pharmacother. 2003 Jul-Aug;37(7-8):1014-7.
Levofloxacin-associated Achilles tendon rupture.

53. Clin Rheumatol. 2003 Oct;22(4-5):367-8.
Bilateral Achilles tendinitis with spontaneous rupture induced by levofloxacin in a patient with systemic sclerosis.

54. Scand J Infect Dis. 2003;35(10):768-70.
Levofloxacin-associated Achilles tendon rupture and tendinopathy.

55. Levofloxacin-associated Achilles tendon rupture and tendinopathy. Scand J Infect Dis 2003;35(10):768-70 (ISSN: 0036-5548) Melhus A; Apelqvist J; Larsson J; Eneroth M Department of Medical Microbiology, Malmo University Hospital, Malmo, Sweden. asa.melhus at mikrobiol.mas.lu.se.

56. Levofloxacin and trovafloxacin inhibition of experimental fracture-healing. Clin Orthop 2003 Sep;(414):95-100 (ISSN: 0009-921X) Perry AC; Prpa B; Rouse MS; Piper KE; Hanssen AD; Steckelberg JM; Patel R Department of Orthopedic Surgery, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN 55905, USA.

57. Levofloxacin-associated Achilles tendon rupture. Ann Pharmacother 2003 Jul-Aug;37(7-8):1014-7 (ISSN: 1060-0280) Mathis AS; Chan V; Gryszkiewicz M; Adamson RT; Friedman GS Department of Pharmacy Practice and Administration, Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy, Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Piscataway, NJ, USA. smathis at sbhcs.com.

58. Richardson LC, Reitman R, Wilson M.
Achilles tendon ruptures: functional outcome of surgical repair with a "pull-out" wire.
Foot Ankle Int. 2003 May;24(5):439-43.
PMID: 12801203 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

59. Ultrasonography of non-traumatic rupture of the Achilles tendon secondary to levofloxacin. Foot Ankle Int 2003 Feb;24(2):122-4 (ISSN: 1071-1007) Cebrian P; Manjon P; Caba P Departamento de Radiodiagnostico, Hospital Universitario 12 de Octubre, Madrid, Spain. pcvbb at yahoo.es.

60. J Am Board Fam Pract. 2003 Sep-Oct;16(5):458-60.
Levofloxacin-induced tendon rupture: a case report and review of the literature.


2004

1. Mehra A, Maheshwari R, Case R, Croucher C.
Bilateral simultaneous spontaneous rupture of the Achilles tendon.
Hosp Med. 2004 May;65(5):308-9. No abstract available.
PMID: 15176150 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2. Vergara Fernandez I.
[Muscle and tendon problems as a side-effect of levofloxacine: review of a case]
Aten Primaria. 2004 Mar 15;33(4):214. Spanish. No abstract available.
PMID: 15023326 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3. McKinley BT, Oglesby RJ.
A 57-year-old male retired colonel with acute ankle swelling.
Mil Med. 2004 Mar;169(3):254-6. No abstract available.
PMID: 15080249 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4. Fama U, Irace S, Frati R, de Gado F, Scuderi N.
Is it a real risk to take ciprofloxacin?
Plast Reconstr Surg. 2004 Jul;114(1):267. No abstract available.
PMID: 15220615 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5. Kahn F, Christensson B.
[A rapid development of Achilles tendon rupture following quinolone treatment]
Lakartidningen. 2004 Jan 15;101(3):190-1. Swedish. No abstract available.
PMID: 14763088 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6. Long term outcome after Fluoroquinolones tendinopathies
13/01/2004 14:11:07 P-0077
C Guy (1); Y Murat (1); MN Beyens (1); M Ratrema (1); G Mounier (1); M Ollagnier (1); (1) Centre de Pharmacovigilance, Hôpital Bellevue - CHU St-Etienne, Sant-Etienne

7. Levofloxacin-induced bilateral Achilles tendon rupture: a case report and review of the literature. J Orthop Sci 2004;9(2):186-90 (ISSN: 0949-2658) Kowatari K; Nakashima K; Ono A; Yoshihara M; Amano M; Toh S Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Aomori Rosai Hospital, 1 Minamigaoka, Shirogane-machi, Hachinohe 031-8551, Japan.

8. Pharmacol Exp Ther. 2004 Jan;308(1):394-402. Epub 2003 Oct 20. In vitro discrimination of fluoroquinolones toxicity on tendon cells: involvement of oxidative stress.

9. Hosp Med. 2004 May;65(5):308-9.
Bilateral simultaneous spontaneous rupture of the Achilles tendon.
Mehra A, Maheshwari R, Case R, Croucher C.

10. Therapie. 2004 Nov-Dec;59(6):653-5.
Ofloxacin-induced achilles tendinitis in the absence of a predisposition

11. An Med Interna. 2004 Mar;21(3):154.
Achilles bilateral tendonitis and levofloxacin

12. J Orthop Sci. 2004;9(2):186-90.
Levofloxacin-induced bilateral Achilles tendon rupture: a case report and review of the literature.

13. Scand J Infect Dis. 2004;36(4):315-6.
Recurrent tendinitis after treatment with two different fluoroquinolones.

14. Joint Bone Spine. 2004 Nov;71(6):586-7. Related Articles, Links
Rupture of multiple tendons after levofloxacin therapy.
Braun D, Petitpain N, Cosserat F, Loeuille D, Bitar S, Gillet P, Trechot P.
Pneumology Department, Maillot Hospital, 54150 Briey, France.

15. Aten Primaria. 2004 Mar 15;33(4):214.
Muscle and tendon problems as a side-effect of levofloxacine: review of a case

16. Kowatari K, Nakashima K, Ono A, Yoshihara M, Amano M, Toh S.
Levofloxacin-induced bilateral Achilles tendon rupture: a case report and review of the literature.
J Orthop Sci. 2004;9(2):186-90. Review.
PMID: 15045551 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

17. Gomez Rodriguez N, Ibanez Ruan J, Gonzalez Perez M.
[Achilles bilateral tendonitis and levofloxacin]
An Med Interna. 2004 Mar;21(3):154. Spanish. No abstract available.
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18. Filippucci E, Farina A, Bartolucci F, Spallacci C, Busilacchi P, Grassi W.[Levofloxacin-induced bilateral

19. Burkhardt O, Kohnlein T, Pap T, Welte T.
Recurrent tendinitis after treatment with two different fluoroquinolones.
Scand J Infect Dis. 2004;36(4):315-6.
PMID: 15198194 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


2005

1. Toxicology. 2005 May 9
Fluoroquinolones cause changes in extracellular matrix, signalling proteins, metalloproteinases and caspase-3 in cultured human tendon cells.
Sendzik J, Shakibaei M, Schafer-Korting M, Stahlmann R.

2. Arch Orthop Trauma Surg. 2005 Mar;125(2):124-6. Epub 2005 Jan 12.
Missed Achilles tendon rupture due to oral levofloxacin: surgical treatment and result.

3. An Med Interna. 2005 Jan;22(1):28-30.
Partial bilateral rupture of the Achilles tendon associated to levofloxacin

4. Expert Opin Drug Saf. 2005 Mar;4(2):299-309.
Fluoroquinolones and tendon disorders.
Melhus A.

5. Toxicology. 2005 May 9
Fluoroquinolones cause changes in extracellular matrix, signalling proteins, metalloproteinases and caspase-3 in cultured human tendon cells.
Sendzik J, Shakibaei M, Schafer-Korting M, Stahlmann R.
Institute of Clinical Pharmacology and Toxicology, Department of Toxicology, Charite-Universitatsmedizin Berlin, Campus Benjamin Franklin, Garystr. 5, 14195 Berlin, Germany; Institute of Anatomy, Department of Cell and Neurobiology, Charite-Universitatsmedizin Berlin, Campus Benjamin Franklin, Konigin-Luise-Str. 15, 14195 Berlin, Germany; Musculoskeletal Research Group, Institute of Anatomy, Ludwig-Maximilian-Universitat Munich, Pettenkoferstr. 11, 80336 Munich, Germany.

Additional references:

AUSTRALIA
THE ACHILLES HEEL OF FLUOROQUINOLONES
One of the more unusual adverse reactions known to be associated with the fluoroquinolone antibiotics is the occurrence of tendinitis. This is a serious effect since it may progress to tendon rupture with many weeks of disability as a result. Over 200 cases have been reported in the literature with the majority from France. Most members of the class including ciprofloxacin, enoxacin, ofloxacin, and norfloxacin have been implicated. The Achilles tendon is most often involved.
In Australia, there have been 25 reports of tendinitis in association with fluoroquinolones. Most (22) have been with ciprofloxacin and the other three with norfloxacin. The majority of the patients involved were elderly, ranging in age from 46 to 91 (median 69) years and the sex distribution was equal. For ciprofloxacin, daily dosages ranged from 750 mg to 2250 mg although most (13) patients were taking 1000 mg daily. For norfloxacin, all three patients were taking the usual dose of 800 mg daily. Time to onset ranged from the same day that the drug was commenced (in two patients) to two months although in 13 of the 24 reports which provided the information, the reaction occurred within the first week. Almost all (23) of the reports specified the Achilles tendon as the site of the tendinitis. Tendinitis was described as bilateral in 11 cases. Only 8 patients had recovered at the time the report was submitted and the other patients were being treated with rest and/or physiotherapy. There have been no reports of tendon rupture in Australia although in one severe case, the patient required a plaster cast up to the mid thigh.
A number of risk factors have been identified with regard to this adverse reaction. These include old age, renal dysfunction, and concomitant corticosteroid therapy. Of the patients reported to ADRAC, 72% were older than 60 years. Nine of these patients were taking corticosteroids as were three of the younger patients.
Prescribers are reminded that tendinitis, especially involving the Achilles tendon, is a rare adverse effect of the fluoroquinolones. It is more likely to occur in association with the risk factors referred to above. The antibiotic should be withdrawn immediately to reduce the risk of tendon rupture.


DUTCH
Fluoroquinolones have been associated with tendon disorders, usually during the first month of treatment,1-5 but the epidemiological evidence is scanty. We did a nested case-control study among users of fluoroquinolones in a large UK general practice database to study the association with Achilles tendon disorders.

Participants, methods, and results

We obtained data from the IMS Health database (UK MediPlus), which contains data from general practice on consultations, morbidity, prescriptions, and other interventions in a source population of 1-2 million inhabitants. The base cohort consisted of all patients aged 18 years or over who had received a fluoroquinolone. We excluded people with a history of Achilles tendon disorders, cancer, AIDS, illicit drug use, or alcohol misuse. We identified potential cases by reviewing patient profiles and clinical data and excluded tendon disorders due to direct trauma. We randomly sampled a group of 10 000 control patients from the study cohort.

We defined four categories of exposure to fluoroquinolones: current use, recent use, past use, and no use. We defined current use as when the tendon disorder occurred in the period between the start of the fluoroquinolone treatment and the calculated end date plus 30 days, recent use as when the calculated end date was between 30 and 90 days before the occurrence of the disorder, and past use as when the calculated end date was more than 90 days before the occurrence of the disorder. We used unconditional logistic regression analysis to calculate adjusted relative risks and 95% confidence intervals for Achilles tendon disorders, using the no use group as the reference. We adjusted for age, sex, number of visits to the general practitioner, use of corticosteroid, calendar year, obesity, and history of musculoskeletal disorders.

The cohort included 46 776 users of fluoroquinolones between 1 July 1992 and 30 June 30 1998, of whom 704 had Achilles tendinitis and 38 had Achilles tendon rupture. Four hundred and fifty three (61%) of the cases were women, and the mean age was 56 years. Cases visited the general practitioner significantly more often than did controls (mean 20 v 17). Cases and controls were similar with respect to indications for use of fluoroquinolone. Age, number of visits to the general practitioner in the previous 18 months, gout, obesity, and use of corticosteroid were determinants of Achilles tendon disorders. The adjusted relative risk of Achilles tendon disorders with current use of fluoroquinolones was 1.9 (95% confidence interval 1.3 to 2.6). The risk for recent and past use was similar to that for no use. The relative risk with current use was 3.2 (2.1 to 4.9) among patients aged 60 and over and 0.9 (0.5 to 1.6) among patients aged under 60 (table). In patients aged 60 or over, concurrent use of corticosteroids and fluoroquinolones increased the risk to 6.2 (3.0 to 12.8).

Relative risk of Achilles tendon disorders associated with use of fluoroquinolones according to age
Current exposure to fluoroquinolones increases the risk of Achilles tendon disorders. This finding is in agreement with a smaller study, in which we found an association between tendinitis and fluoroquinolones.5 Our results indicate that this adverse effect is relatively rare, with an overall excess risk of 3.2 cases per 1000 patient years. The effect seems to be restricted to people aged 60 or over, and within this group concomitant use of corticosteroids increased the risk substantially. The proportion of Achilles tendon disorders among patients with both risk factors that is attributable to their interaction was 87%. Although the mechanism is unknown, the sudden onset of some tendinopathies, occasionally after a single dose of a fluoroquinolone, suggests a direct toxic effect on collagen fibres. Prescribers should be aware of this risk, especially in elderly people taking corticosteroids.

Acknowledgments
We acknowledge the cooperation of IMS Health United Kingdom.
Contributors: PDvdL, MCJMS, and BHChS formulated the design of the study. PDvdL carried out the analyses. PDvdL, MCJMS, and BHChS wrote the paper, and RMCH and HGML edited it. BHChS and HGML are guarantors for the paper.

Funding:
Dutch Inspectorate for Health Care.

Competing interests:
MCJMS is a consultant for Lundbeck (France) and Beaufour (UK) and has previously been a consultant for Pfizer (USA), Roche (Switzerland), and Novartis Consumerhealth (Switzerland). MCJMS is responsible for research conducted with the integrated primary care information database in the Netherlands, which is supported by project specific grants from GlaxoSmithKline, AstraZeneca, Merck Sharp & Dohme, Pharmacia & Upjohn, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Eli Lilly, Wyeth, and Yamanouchi. MCJMS has conducted research projects on use of antibiotics for Merck & Co (USA) and Bayer (Italy).

This is far from being an all inclusive list of such medical journal entries and other such main stream documentation. Starting in 1965 and ending in 2005, almost forty years worth of such reports and the treating physician as well as the patient have no prior knowledge concerning such events. This defies logic but sadly enough this is the true state of affairs. In spite of the overwhelming evidence presented at that 62 Meeting of the Anti-Infective Drugs Advisory Committee that the fluoroquinolones cause irreversible joint damage in the pediatric population the FDA has recently added the use of Ciprofloxacin in the pediatric population, treating children as young as one years of age.

Numerous studies have indicated that such use in a pediatric patient runs the risk of crippling the child for life. Yet additional clinical trials continue aided and abetted by the FDA, for other drugs in this class other than Ciprofloxacin. A disaster that is detailed within the 62nd meeting of the Anti-Infective Drugs Advisory Committee where it was so eloquently stated:

"…when we talk about the issue of arthropathy that potentially includes a number of things, ranging from simple effusion, for instance, of a knee joint, which might rapidly resolve after the conclusion of therapy, to a more permanent disability. .." (sic)

"…in September of 1997 there is now a ciprofloxacin suspension which is available, and although it continues to have the same warning statements about arthropathy in juvenile animals and the potential concern in pediatric populations, obviously, the issue of off label use will extend over to pediatric populations in this formulation…."(sic)

"…An important safety question is, what adverse events should be monitored, and Doctor Goldberger alluded to this earlier. This is some of the examples I present. One is permanent lameness, reversible lameness, joint effusion, joint pain, and even latent articular disease or damage that may occur months or years following drug exposure, and there may be others…."(sic)

"…And, data submitted to the Agency, as well as data from the scientific literature, indicate that these lesions don't appear to be reversible…"(sic)

"…Doctor Stahlmann in Berlin is working on an idea that it may be an effect between the endocrines, the magnesium and the matrix and the quinolone. And that data is just coming out now. But as to the exact mechanism, I think you're right. I don't think we have a handle, as far as I know, on the exact mechanism. If there's anybody else that does, I'd sure like to hear it…"(sic)

"… Relating your personal experience, I was wondering about the potential for a delayed effect that in fact one might have a patient who had some histologic changes that would not be manifest clinically for many years. Is that a potential?" (sic)

"… I think it is a potential…"(sic)

"… In trying to assess toxicity with a very sensitive assay, obviously you've got tissue that you can look at in your animal models. There is some human data that were collected by Doctor Urs Schaad using MRI scanning in children and I'm wondering if you can correlate some of your histopathologic findings with MR in the animal model to give us an idea of how sensitive it would be sort of as a follow-up to Doctor Klein's question is the MR something that will be able to predict long-term outcomes, even if there are no clinical symptoms during therapy…."(sic)

"… That I don't know. I'll just be perfectly frank. I don't know. But on the slides I've seen from the animals from the chronic study, the repaired articular cartilage that is there is principally fibrocartilage yet it will provide the same joint margin and it has a calcified base and when we stain it with safrain O screen there's no proteoglycans there so it's going to make it an extremely chondromalaistic area and beyond the one year I can't tell you what the results will be…"(sic)

"…Anyway, it was by a group in Vienna where they looked at the articular cartilage of postmortem specimens of articular cartilage from kids with cystic fibrosis that had been on quinolones for a period of time and they found that there was damage in the chondrocytes…."(sic)

"…There were no deaths reported in U.S. pediatric zero to 18 year old cases where a flouroquinolone was reported as the suspect drug. However, there are eight deaths in the whole cohort of suspect and concomitant flouroquinolone drug reports in the system. Five of these deaths reported ciprofloxacin as a concomitant drug and not the suspect drug. These five were U.S. cases with ages ranging from seven months to six years. The remaining three deaths were all foreign, all 18 year old patients with either ofloxacin or norfloxacin reported as the suspect drug…."(sic)

"…There are 14 reports of arthropathy or arthralgia in the pediatric zero to 18 year old flouroquinolone reports. One report of a 14 year old girl had both ofloxacin and lomefloxacin as the suspect drug so there is an extra count because of the two flouroquinolones on this one report. This particular report indicates that a pediatric orthopedic surgeon diagnosed femoral anteversion as the cause for the girl's arthralgia, therefore you see it listed twice, and not the flouroquinolones. Most of the reports indicated that either an involved knee or elbow with or without other joints was involved…."(sic)

"…One interesting case which is not included on this slide for arthralgias was a 15 year old boy who received ofloxacin IV for an emergency appendectomy and had not grown more than his 70 inches in height over the last year. The 15th percentile for height for a 15 year old boy however is 66.5 inches and the expected growth rate is about two inches per year…"(sic)

"…Three patients had their seizure after the first dose of flouroquinolone, one on ciprofloxacin and the other two on ofloxacin, one of which had received ofloxacin several months earlier…"(sic)

"…The 15 psychiatric reports are a loose grouping of reports which include events ranging from euphoria to psychosis. The ages range from five to 18 years with the median at 15 years. There were two suicide attempts, one on ofloxacin and the other on norfloxacin, three reports of hallucination, one each on ciprofloxacin, ofloxacin and norfloxacin, and one report of aggressive behavior with confusion in a patient who had a psychiatric history and was on norfloxacin. The seven cases of photosensitivity were reported with lomefloxacin with one case on ciprofloxacin and two cases on ofloxacin. …"(sic)

"…I will mention that there were 152 U.S. cases aged zero to 18 years in the U.S. AERS system suspect flouroquinolones in the WHO line listing. The country with the most pediatric reports in the WHO foreign reports is the United Kingdom with 177 reports followed by Germany with 72 and France with 71. The rest of the countries had 20 or fewer reports…."(sic)

"…And with regards to muscular-skeletal events, 21 percent of the patients had an event in ciprofloxacin…"(sic)

"…We have focused our analysis on joint disorders and pefloxacin. 79 cases were reported and consist mainly of arthralgia. I don't know the pronunciation of hydrarthrosis -- 49 persons. It involved the knee in 52 cases, the wrist in 20 cases, the elbow in 20 cases, the shoulder in 6 cases, the ankle in 5 cases, and the hip once. It is associated with a functional discomfort in all cases, and when the duration of this discomfort is known, it can persist more than one month in 61 percent of these cases. But the outcome was favorable in 58 cases without discontinuation in two cases. …"(sic)

"…There have been sequelae in three cases with knee effusions persisting one year later in one case with discomfort following 8 months later in the second case. The third case is articular. It is a 17-year-old patient who experienced arthropathy and the drug was not suspected and the treatment was continued two following months. It leads to destructive arthropathy of the knees and the hip and prothesis was performed three years later. He was treated for a cerebral abscess. The outcome was unknown in 18 cases. In 9 cases, there was no follow-up. In the 9 last cases, we had a follow-up three months later and patients were not -- were still with disabilities and after we have no evolution…." (sic)

"… It is my understanding that one of the children had a joint replacement, is that correct?"

" Pardon me?"

" One of the children with the complications had an artificial joint replacement?"

"Yes."

"…If an irreversible cartilaginous lesion can occur, it is very likely that is going to cause problems down the line and we can't even anticipate what they are like…" (sic)


Again I state that this is for your reference & review and being made in support of my oppossing opinion that such occurences are not rare. I also take exception to the statement made that there is some kind of obligation to report such events. There is not. Such reports are done strictly on a voluntary basis and no law mandates that this be done by the treating physician. The medwatch program is voluntary and less that 3% of such events are ever reported to the FDA. A full 97% of such events never make it to the FDA. When reviewing the medwatch data base for the fluoroquinolones, joint, tendon and cartilage damage are all the top three events being reported, more so than any other adr.

In addition when a physician fails to recognize such an event it is doubtful that it would be reported. The NUMBER ONE complaint of those who have suffered such an event is the fact that the treating physician DENIES that it could possibly be the result of fluoroquinolone therapy. Any number of the tens of thousands of such victims I have discussed this issue with have reported that their physician REFUSED to make such a report, REFUSED to review the citations brought to them by their patients, and instructed their patients to stay off the internet. Even when such documentation was presented to the drug reps via pharmacafe those posting such information were ridiculed and harassed. This is not a situation I find condusive to accurate reporting of such events. It is a situation that results in false and misleading information being available to both the patient and the physician, while the true state of affairs is swept under the carpet.

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Message Number 184988

Re: I won't bother you again-I promise. View Thread
Posted by Dr. Z on 10/16/05 at 22:19

May been Thomas heel. This is a wedge placed on the inside of your shoe to help control eversion of the heel

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Message Number 184920

Re: I won't bother you again-I promise. View Thread
Posted by Hoopa on 10/15/05 at 22:39

I have never heard of a Thomas either.

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Message Number 184882

I won't bother you again-I promise. View Thread
Posted by Kaff on 10/15/05 at 14:41

Hi: I have really tried to get a couple of answers to questions. I posted 40.0 to 5.2cm. I was at a new doctor Oct. 10th and was treated horrible. I wanted to know what a Thomas is and gait. I also needed some reassuring of what could happen to me. I'm terribly afraid that after 6+ years that it might be too late for any help for my achilles tear that is now over 2" long and so many others things that went wrong. I and my family is also afraid that I might end up losing my whole foot.

I promise that I will not ask anything of any of you again. I always thought this was a great sight for any help of the feet, I was wrong.

P.S. The doctor I saw Monday told me the achilles tendon is in the ankle, Imagine That? Phew I'm glad mine is where it should be, in the heel. Kaff

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Message Number 184586

Re: 4.0 to 5.2 CM in 5 Month-Achilles Tendon Tear View Thread
Posted by Kaff on 10/12/05 at 08:28

What I mean by my HMO is that I pay nothing for meds, doctors appts, hospital tests, etc. That is why some doctors stick their noses down at us. We are people too and can not help the way things turn out. This doctor definitely did just that.

My original accident happened May 2000 and had surgery to repair achilles tendon Aug. 2000 after 1st OS had me go to PT before he even looked at x-rays or any ER reports. The ER said it was a sprain and put on an air cast and sent me home. It was the Ptherapist that figured that someting was more serious than a sprain. Well, to make a looooong story short, it all went down hill from there. 6 years later and numerous doctors, I am worse than ever right now. It seems as though all the OS's here are ONE!!!! So many lawsuits for malpractice. I thought I would try another county and hospital and he treated me like crap. My sister was with me when he came in and she was really ticked by his manner. I did file a complaint with my HMO and asked them not to pay him for his visit. I also told them about the way he treated me. When he first came into the examine room, he asked me what I was there for, he already knew I was on this insurance plan [HMO], he asked me if I smoked and if I worked? What smoking has to do with the price of tea in China is way beyond me, by the way, I do not smoke and never did. My foot amd toes are so swollen and painful I can't get comfortable when I sit or lay down. The pain is now shooting up to my butt. My family and I are so down in the dumps over this. 6+ is a long time for all this. So by HMO I mean we get treated like "white trash", plain and simple.

I would still like to know what a Thomas and gait are.

Thanks for any help. Kaff

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Message Number 184492

4.0 to 5.2 CM in 5 Month-Achilles Tendon Tear View Thread
Posted by Kaff on 10/11/05 at 09:05

A month ago I posted about an achilles tear. Since April 15th 2005 to September 19 2005 my achilles tendon tear went from 4.0cm to 5.2cm, which equals at least a 2" tear. I just saw an OS yesterday and he won't do anything because I have an HMO and no job. He was rude, stuck his nose down at me, made very unprofessional remarks about my being on a plan that pays for my treatments (meaning my HMO). I can't help how things turned out in my life. He also said that I'd have to see a heart and lung specialist and there was none at the hospital that took my HMO. I worked for 26 years, it's not like I've been a bum all my life, and I'm certainly not one now. Things happen in peoples lives that cause them to be unemployed. This was the 2nd OS I've seen since the MRI I had in April, the first OS was in, oh, maybe 2 minutes and charged $250.00. Said it was just a cyst and would be trial and error to go explore any aspects of this problem. I had another MRI Sept. 19th and that was my cause to go yesterday to yet another OS. I even went to another hospital in another town we are well acquainted with. The treatment I got yesterday was a cause for me to file a complaint with my HMO on the unprofessional conduct of this Orthopedic Surgeon.

What exactly is a Thomas? And what is gait? I have in my possession the MRI studies and the first OS's report with his saying of "Trial and Error" which he must have said 10 times in the 2 minutes he saw me and I had to wait over an hour in the waiting room and 15 min. is the examination room for his 2 min. chat of trial and error. He never looked at my achilles tendon report or even have me take off my shoe and sock. Actually, he didn't even look at my MRI films that were there. Can someone give me some advice as this tear will only worsen. The OS's here are no good.

Any help will be well appreciated. Thanks. Kaff

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Message Number 184361

Re: Chargers vs. Patriots View Thread
Posted by Kathy G on 10/09/05 at 10:54


Yes, Judy, it does. My son has lived in Australia and St. Thomas. He's been to so many countries in Europe, it would bore you if I listed them. My daughter hasn't been to Europe but she's close to him on the places she's visited in the US and she's hit the Carribean, too.

The funniest thing happened when he was living in St. Thomas and she went to visit him during a school vacation. She was a freshman in high school and he was out of college. We gave her a credit card, on our account but in her name, and told her to use it for emergency purposes only. Well, that's not what she told our son, so they lived it up! Went to the best restaurant, luckily only once, took taxis, went to St. John's snorkeling and had a ball!

When I casually mentioned to her that the card was supposed to be used for emergency purposes only, she was truly shocked and apologetic and she's not usually deceitful so I believed her. Later, when our son called to thank us for being so generous, what were we going to say? :D

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Message Number 184197

Re: New here View Thread
Posted by John H on 10/06/05 at 09:29

Marcy: I am from Little Rock and Dr. Kulik performed surgery on my foot. He performed a tarsal tunnel release, Baxter procedure, and Cheilectomy on the same foot. It took about 30 minutes for the entire procedures.

Dr. Kulik has excellent credentials. He is a board certifed Orthopedic Surgeon with a Fellowship in foot and ankle surgery. He also trained under Dr. Baxter who is a nationaly known Foot and ankle expert out of Houston. It usually takes a month or more to see him.

Another person to consider is Dr. Ruth Thomas who is Chief of Foot and Ankle Surgery at the University of Arkansas Hospital in Little . She also has great credentials and held this position for many years.

Good luck.

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Message Number 181453

Re: Dear Carole C View Thread
Posted by John H on 8/31/05 at 09:46

This is perhaps the greatest natural disaster to EVER hit the United States. The death toll will continue to mount and wonders if New Orleans can ever be rebuilt since it is now 80% underwater and the water is still rising. The economic impact will be greater than the total gross economy of most European nations. Follwing is a first hand account from an Air Commando who lived in Biloxi and has been flying over the area:


From: "Eugene D. Rossel"
Subject: An aerial report of damage over MS Gulf Coast-if you ever been
stationed there you will recognize what he is talking about

A friend sent this to me who knows Biloxi and the area and flew over to make this report.

Gene

"I just got back from a 3.5 hour flight over the Mississippi Gulf Coast from Bay St. Louis to Pascagoula.

I have no words--I'm not sure there ARE words--for what I just saw. I am in shock. The destruction of the Gulf Coast was of a level that Hurricane Camille only began to begin to approach.

Personal. Janet's and my house is gone. An oak tree from the east side is lying on top of what looks like a section of the roof. Whatever else is left is in a pile of debris at the CSX railroad tracks to the north, along with every other house in the neighborhood, save the one house next door
(Archie & Margaret's). Theirs is a spanish-southwestern style built in 1925, and it used to stand out against all the other homes. Now it IS the only other home. The windows are all out, and it looks pretty bad. Grasslawn, an antibellum home on the other side, is gone.

Going down the coast from east to west...

Ocean Springs has heavy damage along the beach. I don't know how far back it goes.

Biloxi. Point Cadet is gone. The Hwy 90 bridge is gone. The old hwy bridge is gone. The railroad bridge is gone. All spans are down--every last one of them--except for the drawbridge in the middle. The Biloxi Casinos are mostly standing, but the barge from the Grand is north of hwy 90 now. Mary Mahoney's Restaurant is standing, but most of the surrounding buildings are gone. The Seashore Manor Methodist retirement home is the only structure standing

on that stretch of beach. The windows are even unbroken. The Broadwater Marina is gone. What's left of the President Casino barge is north and west, and across Hwy 90. Edgewater Mall is standing, but it has large holes in the structure, high, all along the south side. Edgewater Village strip mall is gone. Everything south of the railroad tracks has severe damage, if it's still standing. I didn't see the Back Bay area.

Gulfport. The Legacy Condominiums are standing, and apparently did quite well. Nearly everything around them is gone. The VA hospital complex did well. Most of the homes on either side of it are gone. The water went beyond the railroad tracks in multiple places near there. There is a continuous debris pile pushed up against the tracks all along what used to be Second Street. Almost every house there is gone. Downtown is mostly standing, but there has been water up to the tracks. The roofs of most of the buildings have visible damage. The Hancock Bank building and the MS Power Co building seem to have fared the best. The Baptist and Presbyterian churches looked good. I couldn't see the GPT Methodist church. The new courthouse appears to be undamaged, including the windows. The harbor is mostly gone. The roof of Marine Life is down. The shipping terminal warehouses are there, but they have debris on the roofs, indicating that they were underwater. The Grand Casino hotel (and Oasis) did very well, but the casino barge is blocking Hwy 90 to the west. The homes in West Gulfport did better than on the east side, but only for a space. Approaching Long Beach it gets worse quickly.

Keesler AFB and the Gulfport CBC. One hangar at Keesler looks bad. The rest of those structures look intact from where we were flying.

Long Beach. Everything from about 1000' south of the RR tracks is gone. The Baptist Church is standing, but gutted. St. Thomas has parts standing, but it is mostly gone. USM Gulf park looks pretty good, and it is the only structure on that section of Beach. The Methodist Church is standing, and the New Life Center looks good. The roofs look good. Water came up as high as the house next door to the Associate Pastor's parsonage. Everything south of Magnolia Street is gone. North of Magnolia Street, there is heavy damage up to about 1000' of the tracks. On my old street of Buena Vista Dr., my old house is the first one standing. It appears from the air to have had water up to the second story. The High School, Middle School, and Reeves Middle School appear undamaged. Harper McCaughan is hurt, but I couldn't see how bad. It probably had water, and it is about at where the survival line forms. North LB did much better, but there was lots of roof damage. Pecan Park seems to have fared the best. The Wolf River is flooded so badly I couldn't see any structures above water. It is up to within a couple of feet of the I-10 bridge--enough that I worry for the integrity of the bridge. The harbor is gone. Every structure in the vicinity of the harbor is gone.

Pass Christian. The Wal Mart is standing, but it has been underwater. Some

Downtown buildings are standing. St Anne's is there, but it has had water over it. From the LB line westward, everything south of Second Street is gone. The only exception was Scenic Drive, where about half of the houses are standing. From Downtown west I saw nothing standing anywhere in Pass Christian. The only houses I saw standing in West Pass were the newer ones on the North Side, near the Bay of St. Louis, and those two new millionaire acres-looking houses on the beach about halfway to Pass Marianne. The Du Pont site is there, but we didn't fly north far enough to assess.

The Hwy 90 bridge over the Bay of St. Louis is down. Every span. The railroad bridge is down. Every span.

Bay St. Louis appears to have had water in the downtown area. Most of the buildings are standing, but most have roof damage. All the homes southwest of the downtown area, along the beach road, are gone. The homes west of the

beach road had the heaviest roof damage I saw anywhere except in East Biloxi.

Waveland. We didn't fly all the way to Waveland, but I could see down the beach road quite a ways, and I saw nothing standing.

Other. Hwy 90 is washed out in sections all along the coast, from Biloxi to

Bay st. Louis. Huge sand drifts obscure many more sections of pavement. There is a lot more natural sand along the beach, maybe another 500-1000'. Ship Island is mostly gone. There is a clump of trees on a sand bar on the east, and there is a sand bar on the west. Fort Massachusetts is there, but has sand berms about 15' high along the southwest side. Cat Island has a new shape. It doesn't have "fingers" any more. It is just a continuous stretch, like Ship Island used to be, only with trees.

My estimates. Based on the debris lines and what I know of the geography of the MS Gulf Coast, the tides were indeed in the 30-foot range, all the way from Bay St. Louis to Biloxi. Based on the damage I saw to roofs, and to structures unaffected by water, the winds would have had to be greater than
100 knots, possibly as great as 140 knots. I couldn't see looting/looters, but I could see the opportunity for it. The casualty numbers, when they come in, will be staggering.

In closing. I have never seen any manner of destruction like this. It is bad in Biloxi and Gulfport...as bad as anything I saw after Hurricane Camille in 1969. The devastation of Pass Christian is indescribable. The news reporting only scratches the surface. In my opinion, based on my considerable life experience, the federal government should declare martial law, and rush every possible measure of aid to this area.

Janet and I are praying for the survivors on the ground there. Please join us. I will report more later. Please pass this report along to others who have evacuated, and need to know."

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Message Number 177936

Re: plantar fascitis - just had injection and pain is worse View Thread
Posted by NickP. on 7/06/05 at 15:30

Thomas
I discovers a natural supplement called XANGO which is made from the mangosteen fruit. I have Inflamation in my heals (plantar facitiss) and had trouble everyday getting out of bed to walk. I was taking vioxx everyday and even had a couple of cortizone shots and even then, I still had days with pain. I started taking XANGO and within 10 days, I was and still am pain free. I believe in the product so much, I am a distributor. Check out my website www.np.natureswellnesssecret.com or email my at npapageorge2002@yahoo.com with any questions. I know first hand what type of pain everyone is dealing with. Wouldn't you want a natural alternative to offset the pain? I do and am taking that approach right now.

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Message Number 177935

Re: plantar fascitis - just had injection and pain is worse View Thread
Posted by NickP. on 7/06/05 at 15:30

Thomas
I discovers a natural supplement called XANGO which is made from the mangosteen fruit. I have Inflamation in my heals (plantar facitiss) and had trouble everyday getting out of bed to walk. I was taking vioxx everyday and even had a couple of cortizone shots and even then, I still had days with pain. I started taking XANGO and within 10 days, I was and still am pain free. I believe in the product so much, I am a distributor. Check out my website www.np.natureswellnesssecret.com or email my at npapageorge2002@yahoo.com with any questions. I know first hand what type of pain everyone is dealing with. Wouldn't you want a natural alternative to offset the pain? I do and am taking that approach right now.

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Message Number 177807

Re: ESWT View Thread
Posted by Ralph on 7/04/05 at 18:04

David,
Luckily you had some insurance coverage. I'm sorry you got no improvment from your treatment, but perhaps down the road a few more months you'll begin to show some improvement.

Your case and others like yours are what Elyse and I are concerned about and what causes us to doubt the positiveness reported about ESWT regardless of the studies posted here.

Currently insurance coverage is pretty sparse but what happens when there is insurance coverage with more doctors doing the treatments and there are still the same type of poor results? Patients lose in many ways, but doctors have the potiental to make a great deal of income in spite of patients losses as long as they can perform ESWT both on label and off.

I'm sorry to say that sometimes I begin to think it's a sham treatment and I don't really want to see it as such. I want to see it as a cure, and wish I worked in an area where I saw this happening each and every day then I think I'd feel better about ESWT for P.F. I guess I'm like Thomas I need to see it with my own eyes to really believe it.

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Message Number 177637

Re: Any good books for the summer? View Thread
Posted by Kathy G on 7/01/05 at 09:37


I just finished Hal Coben's "The Innocent." It was an excellent mystery, full of twists and turns. I'm now going to start an Edna Buchanan book, "Shadows." She used to write about Brit Montero, a Miami newspaper crime reporter, which Buchanan herself was, even winning a Pulitzer Prize. Her newest character works in a Cold Case department of a police station, also in Miami. Her books are usually ideal for a summer read or for that matter, any time you want to read a light mystery.

I also have Jeffrey Deaver's new book home but I'm never going to be able to read it before it's due and I'll have to go back on hold for it. Same with Kellerman's "Rage." My husband said it wasn't up to Kellerman's usual standards.

I read my first Jodi Picoult book and it was great. It's entitled, "My Sister's Keeper." It raises all kinds of ethical issues and I love the way it's told from the standpoint of everyone in the story. I highly recommend it.

If you're looking for funny books, try any of Janet Evanovich's books. It's probably best to start with the first, "One for the Money." Her books are hilarious! She's up to eleven and I'm afraid I'll be on vacation when it comes in for me.

Like Linda, I get all my books at the library.

My book group just finished "In Harms Way," about the sinking of the US Indianapolis. I'm sure John's familiar with this subject. I confess; so many good books came in when I was supposed to be reading it that I never read much of it but the discussion on the book was fascinating. This month, we're reading our "Classic for the Year," "Tess of the D'Ubervilles." I read it way back when I was a sophomore in high school and at that time, I was so taken with it, I read many of Thomas Hardy's books. I don't know if I'll remember much of it.

My husband is about to start Patterson's "Broken Prey." I'm on hold for that next. So many books; so little time!

Did you like the Grisham book? And Linda, I loved "The Thorn Birds" but was so disappointed in her other books. I also love the movie. I hadn't thought of "A Tree grows in Brooklyn" in ages. It was my mother's favorite book.

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Message Number 177570

plantar fascitis - just had injection and pain is worse View Thread
Posted by Thomas on 6/30/05 at 12:38

I have been wearing the night splint which helps , an air cast during the day to keep foot immoble - has not gotten better so my doctor gave two injections of steriods - now I can not even put wait on my heel- is this a normal reaction?

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Message Number 173833

Re: MORE INFO View Thread
Posted by dthomas on 4/27/05 at 17:08

I lived in Albuquerque 12 years ago - born and raised. I saw a DPM (Podiatrist) by the name of Mark Haas (if I remember correctly), his office was located below the main campus of UNM.

He was one of the better foot doctors I have worked with and I have met quite a few of them in my life.

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Message Number 172052

Re: New here View Thread
Posted by John H on 3/28/05 at 10:26

Delrea: I live in Little Rock. I have two Doctors to suggest. Dr. Ruth Thomas who is Chief of Foot and Ankle Surgery at the University Hospital for Medical Sciences in Little Rock. She is very conservative, so much so that she does not recommend surgery for PF. The other is Dr. Stepehen Kulik a Little Rock Foot and Ankle Surgeon with Arkansas Speciality Care Centers. I would see Dr. Thomas before I headed to surgery again. Both are highly regarded M.D.'s

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Message Number 171932

Guess you have to View Thread
Posted by challenger34 on 3/25/05 at 07:47

Guess you have to get a refferal for a doctor. Don't think you can pick one from the phonebook.
I am tring to get a contact lens and they gave me one on Michigan St. I have a book and according to that the doctor takes my insurance.
I just have to cal for an appointment.
Bill Thomas
chalenger34@hotmail.com

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Message Number 170057

Re: Ed and Elliott/Helping HIlda View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 2/27/05 at 15:22

JudyS - Here are a few more, but they don't come with the personal recommendation that your book does. I have not read even one single one of these books, but I have kept a list of them in case I ever get around to reading on this subject - and when I really NEED to read them, I won't be able or have the time!
Anyway, they SOUND good and if you read the descriptions and customer comments (for what that's worth) on, say, Amazon, they are generally positive:

What to Ask the Doctor: The Questions to Ask to Get the Answers You Need by Margaret Fitzpatrick

Hospital Handbook – Get In, Get Well, Go Home by Joseph Sacco

Dr. David Sherer’s Hospital Survival Guide: 100+ Ways to Make Your Hospital Stay Safe and Comfortable by David Sherer

Protect Yourself in the Hospital: Insider Tips for Avoiding Hospital Mistakes for Yourself or Someone You Love by Thomas A. Sharon

How to Survive Your Hospital Stay: The Complete Guide to Getting the Care Your Need – And Avoiding Problems You Don’t by Gail Van Kanegan

What Your Doctor Won’t or Can’t Tell You: Doctors, Hospitals, Drugs, Insurance – What You Need to Know to Take Charge of Your Own Health Care by Evan Scott Levine, MD

How Not to Be My Patient: A Physicians’ Secrets for Staying Healthy and Surviving Any Diagnosis by Edward Creagan

How to Survive Your Doctor's Care: Get the Right Diagnosis, the Right Treatment by Mary Gallin

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Message Number 170056

Re: Ed and Elliott/Helping HIlda View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 2/27/05 at 15:20

JudyS - Here are a few more, but they don't come with the personal recommendation that your book does. I have not read even one single one of these books, but I have kept a list of them in case I ever get around to reading on this subject - and when I really NEED to read them, I won't be able or have the time!
Anyway, they SOUND good and if you read the descriptions and customer comments (for what that's worth) on, say, Amazon, they are generally positive:

What to Ask the Doctor: The Questions to Ask to Get the Answers You Need by Margaret Fitzpatrick

Hospital Handbook – Get In, Get Well, Go Home by Joseph Sacco

Dr. David Sherer’s Hospital Survival Guide: 100+ Ways to Make Your Hospital Stay Safe and Comfortable by David Sherer

Protect Yourself in the Hospital: Insider Tips for Avoiding Hospital Mistakes for Yourself or Someone You Love by Thomas A. Sharon

How to Survive Your Hospital Stay: The Complete Guide to Getting the Care Your Need – And Avoiding Problems You Don’t by Gail Van Kanegan

What Your Doctor Won’t or Can’t Tell You: Doctors, Hospitals, Drugs, Insurance – What You Need to Know to Take Charge of Your Own Health Care by Evan Scott Levine, MD

How Not to Be My Patient: A Physicians’ Secrets for Staying Healthy and Surviving Any Diagnosis by Edward Creagan







How to Survive Your Doctor's Care: Get the Right Diagnosis, the Right Treatment by Mary Gallin

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Message Number 169626

Some Info. View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 2/22/05 at 11:37

The April 2005 issue of Yoga Journal has two articles of some possible interest to others here:
First, there is a very short piece that gives information that is new to me on lactic acid. The article is on p. 27 under "Well Being", by F. P. Ruiz (I'm not wearing glasses and the print is tiny; I think it might say Fernando Paiges Ruiz..sorry :-)...); the article is entitled "Muscle Memo" and a quote from it reads: "Far from being a waste product, lactic acid is a valuable fuel that is critical to metabolism," says exercise physiologist Thomas Fahey, a professor of kinesiology at California State University in Chico......points to research (citations given in article)....proving lactic acid can help forestall muscle fatigue. "It plays a role in tissue repair," says Fahey.
(Some of you might find this article of interest.)

Another article that relates to a recent discussion here about the psoas muscles (iliopsoas, hip rotators, hip flexors...): Yoga Journal, April 2005,pp. 117-120 under the regular column "Anatomy of a Yogi"; the article is "Spin Doctor" and is by Julie Gudmestad, identified as "A licensed physical therapist and certified Iyengar Yoga teacher, Julie Gudmestad runs a private physical therapy practice and yoga studio in Portland, Oregon.
This article has illustrations and text and discusses the importance of these muscle groups, as well as giving yoga recommendations and other exercise information for improving the health of these muscles.

You cannot do a kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it will be too late. -Emerson

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Message Number 167247

Re: Dorothy - St. Peter's Church View Thread
Posted by Kathy G on 1/15/05 at 10:01


Thanks for that link, John. It's so beautiful! I don't even think that resort existed when my son was over there. He lived in St. Thomas but spent as much time as he could, snorkeling, on St. John's. When my daughter went to visit him, it was her favorite place, too. They both said I'd love it because there weren't many people there and I could sit on the beach and still be in the shade. They know me well.

That is my dream spot! An underwater national park - beautiful beaches, lots of snorkeling. I'd be in heaven. Maybe someday.......

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Message Number 167053

Re: Dorothy - St. Peter's Church View Thread
Posted by John H on 1/13/05 at 14:05

Kathy: Caneal Bay Resort on St John's is certainly a place to relax. You have your own private bungalow and private beach and food from heaven. One of the great places to snorkel or just enjoy the privacy. About an hour or so boat ride form St Thomas. Actually I think the water and beach on ST Johns was the equal or better of any in Hawaii. Not many places to go beyond your resort but some great private boating trips around the islands with only about 6-8 people on the boat. There is one part of the year you do not want to go but I forget which month(s) it is.

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Message Number 166792

Warning for I.E. users. View Thread
Posted by marie on 1/09/05 at 13:41

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001317.html

IE flaw threat hits the roof
By Dawn Kawamoto CNET News.com January 7, 2005, 1:50 PM PT

* Hacking
* Microsoft Corp

Three unpatched flaws in Internet Explorer now pose a higher danger, a security company warned, after code to exploit one of the issues was published to the Internet.

Secunia said Friday that it had raised its rating of the vulnerabilities in Microsoft's browser to "extremely critical," its highest rating. The flaws, which affect IE 6, could enable attackers to place and execute programs such as spyware and pornography dialers on victims' computers without their knowledge, said Thomas Kristensen, Secunia's chief technology officer.

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I use FireFox and I know some others do too.

Also if you use IE consider downloading anti-spyware.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=321CD7A2-6A57-4C57-A8BD-DBF62EDA9671&displaylang=en

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Message Number 166617

A question for our resident European, Julie View Thread
Posted by Kathy G on 1/06/05 at 18:50


Julie,

We are seeing that many Swedish people were vacationing in the area that was hit by the tsunami. I guess it would be equivalent to us in the US going to say, St. Thomas or even Hawaii. To get to Hawaii from the Eastern US is very expensive and not all that common. Is travel from Sweden to Sri Lanka, for example, very expensive? Do people from England vacation down there? Or are there a lot of wealthy people in Sweden? I ask this as a serious question; not in jest. Perhaps others knew that vacationing in the Thailand area was common for Europeans but I was not aware of it.

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Message Number 164112

Re: for Dorothy - uniforms... View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 11/16/04 at 20:23

Excellent! Beautiful! You are the Thomas Edison of orthotics and the Tom Paine on school policy! Your school system has a gem in their midst.

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Message Number 163629

On Vitamin E: Kathy G and John H View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 11/11/04 at 19:58

I don't think the study was as infallible and not to be questioned as you both are indicating. Here is one news account that I could print easily. There are many. I'm not advocating for or against Vitamin E supplementation; I am advocating for intelligence. I appreciate John H very much but I don't think he is a scientist (Polar bear liver is not toxic to humans because of Vitamin E, for example, but because of Vitamin A...); neither am I, but I don't present information that I share as definitive or the last word. I suggest only caution and consideration, rather than rapid response. Much more will need to be done to corroborate or refute this most recent report on E. In the meantime, it's probably wise to keep your E in the low ranges, if at all, and keep your skeptical radar at high levels. What would really thrill me is if the Big Pharma stuff got the same kind of Red Alert Alarms as do alternative treatments. The article follows:

THE NATION
Study Cites Risks in High Doses of Vitamin E
For the aged and ill, the chance of dying is small, researchers say, but significant due to the supplement's broad use.
By Thomas H. Maugh II and Valerie Reitman
Times Staff Writers

November 11, 2004

High doses of vitamin E, often viewed as a panacea for cancer, heart disease and other illnesses, actually increase the risk of death slightly among the elderly and infirm, researchers said Wednesday.

A study found that the increased risk of death was small, about 5% for those who had taken larger doses of the vitamin for at least five years. But vitamin E is taken by so many people — an estimated 25% of the American population — that even a small increase is significant, the researchers said.

"People take vitamins because they believe it will benefit their health in the long term and prolong life," said Dr. Edgar R. Miller III of the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, a coauthor of the study. "But our study shows that use of high-dose vitamin E supplements certainly did not prolong life, but was associated with a higher risk of death."

Miller presented the results Wednesday at a New Orleans meeting of the American Heart Assn., and they were simultaneously published online in the Archives of Internal Medicine.

"Too often, in terms of the supplements, there's very scant science," Dr. Raymond Gibbons of the Mayo Clinic told a news conference at the heart meeting. "In this area, we have the science: Vitamin E doesn't work."

But some scientists were skeptical of the results.

Dr. David Heber, director of the UCLA Center for Human Nutrition, noted that there was "a disconnect" between large studies like this one and smaller studies that had shown a benefit from taking vitamin E.

Many of the people in the studies "were older people and had preexisting diseases. It's hard to ascribe the bad outcomes to vitamin E, per se," Heber said.

The results came from a so-called meta-analysis that combined data on 135,967 patients in 19 separate studies. The combined results indicated an increased risk for patients — most of whom were over the age of 60 and suffering from heart disease or other illnesses — who took more than 400 international units, or IU, of vitamin E each day.

The results said nothing about the effects of high doses in older people who were healthy or the effects in younger people. The study found no increased risk at doses below 200 IU, and possibly a slight benefit.

The typical vitamin E supplement contains 400 IU, although some contain as much as 1,000. Multivitamin supplements typically contain 30 to 60 IU.

Most people get about 6 to 10 IU of vitamin E per day from their diet, typically from vegetable oils, green leafy vegetables, seeds, nuts and corn.

Many people take supplements of the vitamin because it is an antioxidant that is thought to destroy oxygen radicals produced by chemical reactions gone awry within cells. Nutritional guidelines do not recommend vitamin E supplements and suggest a maximum daily dose of 1,500 IU.

Although the mechanism by which high doses of the supplement might cause damage is not clear, Miller speculated that the vitamin could suppress natural enzymes in the liver and increase the risk of bleeding.

Many cardiologists, as well as the American Heart Assn., recommend that patients not take vitamin E because previous studies have shown the supplements are not beneficial. The new findings seem likely to increase the urgency of such warnings.

Vitamin E manufacturers and proponents scoffed at the results.

John Hathcock, vice president of scientific affairs for the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a supplement industry group, said the increased risk found by the study was "driven by the results from just a few of these clinical trials, some of which are suspect and/or outdated."

"This is an unfortunate misdirection of science … for the sake of headlines," he said.

Leiner Health Products of Carson, which manufactures more than half of the private label vitamin E sold in the United States, dismissed the study as "scientific folly."

Leiner spokeswoman Crystal Wright said the company was "pretty dismayed that a reputable university like Johns Hopkins would come out with something so misguided…. It scares people away from a vitamin that offers so many benefits for so many people."

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Message Number 163044

Re: TTS ? Plantar Fascitis Question View Thread
Posted by k. thomas on 11/05/04 at 15:33

what is a person to do when there is never any pain relief form bilateral
tarsal tunnel syndrome. i use neurontin, bextra and vicodin?

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Message Number 162358

Prepare to Quake in Your Boots! View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 10/28/04 at 18:32

This just in:

NEURAL NETWORK AT THE CONTROLS

Researchers at the University of Florida have created a neural network
made up of 25,000 disembodied rat neurons and hooked it up to a flight
simulator on a desktop computer. The neurons, which are growing on top of a
multi-electrode array, are fed information about the simulated F-22's
horizontal and vertical movements by stimulating the electrodes, causing
them to fire in patterns that are then used to control the aircraft. "It's
as if the neurons control the stick in the aircraft, they can move it back
and forth and left and right," says UF professor Thomas DeMarse. "The
electrodes allow us to record the activity from the neurons and stimulate
them so we can listen to the conversation among the neurons and also input
information back into the neural network." Thus far, the network has
"learned" how to control the fighter jet's pitch and roll in a broad range
of weather conditions, but DeMarse plans to improve the system by having the
"brain" use a horizon to judge how well it's controlling the aircraft. The
goal is to find out how the neurons communicate with each other and
eventually translate that knowledge into the development of a novel
computing architecture.

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Message Number 161688

Re: Relief for Heel Spur Pain View Thread
Posted by melinda s on 10/17/04 at 15:03

I had no success with Orthodics whatsoever...biggest waste of $600.00 I ever had...I cured this problem with Physical Therapy..fortunately in my area at Thomas Hand therapy in Mooresville, NC there is a PT there by the name of Christina that works on Heel Spurs...etc all the time..and she cured this..this is not something that goes away easily..get a night splint...and ice them down, and take a anti inflammatory..

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Message Number 154942

Attention science geeks....the future of Nanotechnology View Thread
Posted by marie on 7/09/04 at 11:53

http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeAMmjZu2bOGjGsg

This is a photo through an electron microscope of some nano wires that my son grew for his research this summer. I am including some information on the field of Nanotechnology. This research will have a huge impact on the medical and pharmaceutical industry in the future. His research is being sponsored by BSAF.

Boston Globe
By Robert Gavin, Globe Staff, 3/6/2004

Nanotechnology creates devices smaller than a human hair, and it might just be the next big thing in Massachusetts.

A new study by the Massachusetts Technology Collaborative and Cambridge-based Nano Science and Technology Institute says the state's universities, entrepreneurial networks, and diversified technology base make it well-positioned to cash in on this emerging field, which the federal government projects could create a $1 trillion worldwide market by 2015. Scientists see the technology, which builds structures about one-thousandth the width of a human hair, leading to an array of new materials and products, from longer-lasting batteries to more powerful computers to ''smart pills" that deliver the right dose of drugs at the right time.

The study, released in conjunction with a national nanotechnology conference that opens in Boston tomorrow, finds that Massachusetts has already grabbed a lead in the field, much of it based on the strength of its research universities. To maintain the lead, the state must support university research efforts, and bring together academia and industry to commercialize discoveries, the study said. ''We have to continue to win on research," said Thomas Hubbard, vice president for technology development at the Massachusetts Technology Collaborative, a state economic development agency. ''And we have to exploit the burgeoning amount of intellectual property that's coming out of our universities." Massachusetts is already home to two federally funded nanotechnology research centers: Harvard University's Center for the Science of Nanoscale Systems and Their Device Applications, and the Institute for Soldier Nanotechnologies at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In addition, the state's universities boast top-ranked programs in a variety of disciplines critical to nanotechnology, including physics, chemistry, materials science, and biomedical engineering the study said.

The entrepreneurial culture and well-established venture capital sector in the state also provide key components to move products from the lab to the marketplace, the study said. A number of start-ups are already at work, using nanotechnology to build lighter and cheaper solar cells, improve computer memory, and enhance drug discovery. Massachusetts has at least 100 firms developing nanoscale products and processes, the study estimated.

Ultimately, the study said, nanotechnology's greatest impact is likely to come from its application across many industries, and Massachusetts has a mix that is likely to benefit most from nanotechnology, including electronics, medical devices, biotechnology and advanced materials.

Story location: www.boston.com/business/technology/...

http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/physics_astronomy/report-30981.html

Turning Science Fiction Into Fact



In the future, our computers no longer crash as we try and download pictures that are too heavy in memory, our cars no longer pollute the atmosphere and cancer could be dealt with by a visit to the GP. Some of it, at least, will happen thanks to cutting edge research happening now at the University of Leicester Department of Physics and Astronomy.

Here scientists are among a handful across the world helping to turn science fiction into a fact of the future through the science of nanotechnology.

Their work relates to the miniscule -smaller than a grain of talcum powder - in the realms of one thousand millionth of a metre in size. At the other end of the spectrum they are concerned with computer memories thousands of times more powerful than they are now; potential new ways of targeting cancer cells too small or fragmented to be identified with current technology; hugely enhanced mobile phone batteries; and safe, effective ways of storing fuel for hydrogen cars.

This is all in the realms of the future, but when, one day, it ceases to be the stuff of science fiction and becomes scientific fact, then that will be because of research in just a handful of laboratories worldwide, one of which is at the University of Leicester.

Chris Binns, Professor of Nanoscience at the University, explained some of the projects he and his research team are working on:

“Our main current research is the properties of nano-particles of 10-1000 atoms, just one or two nanometres across. What is interesting about them is that they show us how matter is developed, how properties change as a result of the number of atoms in a cluster. Clusters of atoms have characteristics that are different from the atoms themselves, and they become giant artificial atoms whose properties you can change.

Recently Professor Binns has been looking at ways of making materials out of these clusters. “We start with designer atoms and build materials out of them. Taking them in gas form, we can make clusters and coat surfaces. The material they make is very different because the clusters retain a memory of their novel properties in the gas phase.

With major funding from the magnetic recording industry, in particular Seagate, Leicester researchers are working on the production of a material that is more magnetic than anything available at the moment. “The most magnetic material today has been around for about a century, Chris Binns said. “We think the clusters we are working on may produce something that is far more magnetic. The thing that limits magnetic recording is the write head. The effectiveness of this is constrained by the degree of magnetism between the write head and the surface it links to. If we can come up with much higher magnetism then computer disks could become much more powerful.

As far as breaking the record for the most magnetic material is concerned this is the only game in town.

Looking to the future, the Leicester research team, in collaboration with Dr Ellis and Dr Wheeler in the Chemistry department, has recently applied for funding to develop even more sophisticated clusters. In what Professor Binns calls “nanocluster onions , they will produce a core containing tens to hundreds of atoms, around which they will grow sophisticated shells that would not occur in nature.

The applications for this branch of nanotechnology are enormous. “If we can achieve this, it will allow us to produce particles using nanotechnology for cancer diagnosis. We could attach antibodies for tumours to the clusters and inject them into the body, and they would find the tumour and kill the tumour cells. This is very exciting stuff. The clusters would be able to detect tumours too small to see, including tumours that have dispersed.

“Potentially you could go to your GP, be injected with these clusters and then walk through something like an airport security arch, and any cancer cells in your body could be located and dealt with.

In three or four years Professor Binns hopes they will be able to get suspensions of the clusters in solution. Then they have to attach biological particles to the clusters. He is, however, optimistic about this stage. “This has already been done. The problems will come in the medical field. How would it work in the body? What side effects might there be?

Core-Shell cluster technology also has applications for the mobile phone battery, as well as for magnetic recording of the future. Computer memory that currently requires a surface of 100 x 100 nanometres could, using shell technology, be stored on a single particle of 2 x 2 nanometres, multiplying the total memory by a factor of 1000.

It may also change motoring of the future. The move is increasing to get away from petrol-fuelled cars. Hydrogen is a clean, non-polluting fuel, which can be obtained from anything as simple as sea water. The problem is in storing it. In gas form it would have to be stored in huge cylinders too heavy for a car to tow. In liquid form it is too dangerous for general consumption. Using nanotechnology, you could store enough hydrogen as a gas in a “metal sponge weighing a few kilogrammes to power a car over the same distance as a conventional petrol tank.

“These are all real possibilities for the future, Professor Binns said, “though for some of them we are looking decades ahead.

There is, however, no harm in dreaming of such a future, when our computers no longer crash as we try and download pictures that are too heavy in memory, when our cars no longer pollute the atmosphere and when cancer can be dealt with by a visit to the GP. Some of it, at least, will happen.

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Message Number 152130

Compression socks dangerous for tts? View Thread
Posted by Karl Everett Thomas on 6/05/04 at 19:56

I think compression socks will cause compression to the tarsal tunnel area , because they are tight fitting so how can these actaulyy help one with tts??????

Thanks KARL

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Message Number 152078

Re: neoprene ankle brace or Aircast ankle stirrup? View Thread
Posted by Karl Everett Thomas on 6/05/04 at 07:39

Hi,

I was prescribed an ankle brace that limited inversion eversion , but was no significant help at all. I also tried a neoprene ankle brace,and that also was not helpful. TTS is not like a sprained ankle and I don't think there is any brace that will help with this condition.

I also went to see a Foot and Ankle orthopedist after 2 podiatrists could not help me with my problem of TTS. Ther is not much they can offer you except physical therapy. orthotics, pills, and surgery if you desire to have a release.

Good luck

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Message Number 150843

Re: tts & numbness View Thread
Posted by thomas on 5/19/04 at 12:31

thanks mike the site was very helpful.

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Message Number 150827

tts & numbness View Thread
Posted by thomas on 5/19/04 at 09:28

i did a lot of walking in cyprus while on holiday.
then one day. i awoke in acute pain. my foot was rigid.?
when i bent my foot.either up or down .pure agony. electric shocks shot through to my heel. the hospital x rayed my foot & nothing was found wrong.
3 monthes on. the bottom of my heel feels very numb. also very painful
being diabetic _type 1. i was a bit worried. so i went to my doctor he
said it,s nothing to worry about. keep of your feet.
he had no idea. what was wrong whith my foot. after doing the tap test on the inside of my ankle. electric shocks shot through to my heel. thanks to this site. i now know it,s_ TTS. & tell my doctor.
many thanks thomas.

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Message Number 150012

Re: ESWT Reimbursement View Thread
Posted by Pauline on 5/04/04 at 14:05

Dr. Z,
The group is a large practice in Pennsylvania. Dr. Zingas has nothing to do with it. He hasn't moved.

Many sources, many places.


Tri-State Orthopaedics & Sports Medicine, Inc. Jack Failla, MD
Brian F. Jewell, MD
Jeffrey N. Kann, MD
Steven E. Kann, MD
Mark J. Langhans, MD
Paul A. Liefeld, MD
Victor J. Thomas, MD
Gerard J. Werries, MD

Northpointe Center
Suite 100
300 Northpointe Circle
Seven Fields, PA 16046
Phone: 724-776-2488
Map


Pittsburgh Office & Research Park
5900 Corporate Drive
Suite 200
Pittsburgh, PA 15237
Phone: 412-369-4000
Map


Twin Towers Office Building
4955 Steubenville Pike
Suite 120
Pittsburgh, PA 15205
Phone: 412-787-7582
Map


Centre Commons
Suite 300
5750 Centre Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15206
Phone: 412-605-0399
Map

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Message Number 145394

Re: To Dr Ed Davis & all others - had gastroc slide View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 2/26/04 at 07:27



Brian,

I would say in the long run that it helped. It's been a year and it is very hard to say the recent improvement that I have had is because of it or something else.

IMPORTANT - I was told up front that I am a very difficult case and I didn't have high expectations going in, but thought it was worth a try.

I was extremely tight and I can tell that it gave me more flexibility. The last month or two have been the best I have been feeling in the past 3 years, but I still have a ways to go. I first got PF over 9 years ago. The last 3 have been very painful.

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Message Number 145259

Re: To Dr Ed Davis & all others - had gastroc slide View Thread
Posted by Pauline on 2/24/04 at 22:24

From D.Thomas's post it sounds like your on your way to a great recovery.
Of any of the surgeries for P.F. this one sounds promising because patients don't have to worry about scar tissue on the bottom of their feet or loss of arch support.

I certainly wouldn't jump into it, but like you certainly check it out and then decide what is best.

Again, best of luck. Thanks D. Thomas for your post too. We may be reading more about this surgery in the future.

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Message Number 145252

Re: To Dr Ed Davis & all others - had gastroc slide View Thread
Posted by rsk on 2/24/04 at 21:19

Pauline / Dorothy

Thank you very much for your prayers. I am not sure if I did it coz I was brave or coz I was desparate. I would like to think it was the former. Like I said earlier my PF pain used to be only in the morning and during the day the pain would go away. But then the pain became worse and I started having pain throughout the day though I had a desk job. More than the PF pain itself I was concerned that prolonged PF pain might lead to other conditions of the feet which might become more complicated. So I went ahead with it. My doc didnt give any specific instruction after the surgery except that I stay of my feet for abt 10 days. He didnt gimme any special boot or anything. He sadi he would gimme Cam walkers this saturday when I see him so that I can used it for walking after 10 days. He did not ask me to use the nite splint but said that mild stretching woulod help.

Dave

My doc didnt use any specific instrument to measure the dorsiflexion. But he said that my feet is being pulled outward by abt 15 deg coz of my tight achilles tendon. As for the doc, I live in Singapore and not in the US so it probably is not useful to you.

Thomas

Thanks for posting your experience. I did read your earlier posts before I went into surgery so I had an idea. I went for GS for the same reason as you. I ma also completely of my feet(wheel chair)since post op and planning to do so 10 days post op after which I would be in crutches and cam walker. I ma not wearing any boots at nite though. Not sure what purpose does it serve. You said that you didnt feel any loss of strength after a year. Can you pls tell me if you did any specific exercises to strengthen your calf muscle. Did you go through any Physical therapy after the surgery. As for my doc, he said he has done 100s of GS but only 6 cases to treat PF. He told me that I am a good candiate for GS and he felt that my PF is caused coz of this. This doc was referred to me as the best foot specialist in Singapore and when I spoke to him I got the confidence that he knows what he was talking abt.


Now for a general update on my progress, 4 days completed post op.I am continuing to heal better each day. My PF pain is very very minimal 1/10 when I poke it. But I will have to wait and see how it feels when I start walking. I am seeing my surgeon on Sat and will ask him abt PT.

Thanks again for all your responses.

cheers...rsk

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Message Number 145245

Re: To Dr Ed Davis & all others - had gastroc slide View Thread
Posted by BrianJ on 2/24/04 at 19:44

D. Thomas --

You left out the most important part -- Did your gastroc slides alleviate your PF pain?

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Message Number 145242

Re: To Dr Ed Davis & all others - had gastroc slide View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 2/24/04 at 19:28



Opps. I didn't read your whole message :)

Everything should be fine. Like I said, there is absolutely no way I can tell or feel that I had them done.

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Message Number 145240

Re: To Dr Ed Davis & all others - had gastroc slide View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 2/24/04 at 19:25


rsk,

I had a gastroc slide done on both legs at the same time. It only took me about a month to get full strength back in my legs. I was in boots for about 4 weeks straight 24hrs (2 weeks with crutches), then only at night for about 3 months. The first week I totally stayed off - I didn't even stand until the second week.

I went for the gastroc slides because the probability of complications from the surgery were less than a fascia release. But, Dr. Ed has mentioned he has done both at the same time to some patients.

It has been over a year now and there is absolutely no way of me knowing I had the slide expect for the marks left from the incisions. I don't feel at all that I lost any strength what so ever.

You might need to ask your doctor how many he has done in the past (they do get a little sensitive when asked). And ask him what procedure he uses - if I remember there are a couple of different ones that are used.

Then you can ask either Dr. Ed who posts at the other site or contact Dr. Manoli (I forgot his email address) from Detroit, MI. Dr. Ed actually knows of the doctors who really pushed this technique - they live in Seattle. Dr. Manoli has done more than his fair share of them.

Good luck.

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Message Number 144715

38th or 45th President??? View Thread
Posted by Richard, C.Ped on 2/19/04 at 14:12

Just throwing something out there. Don't forget the seven presidents before Washington. John Hanson (1781), Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788).
;)

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Message Number 144222

Re: flowers for the living... View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 2/12/04 at 23:57

Ever read Thomas Lynch's books? - first one was called The Undertaking, if I recall correctly. He is a member of a family in Michigan that does undertaking, but he is also a poet and writer. Lovely writing and insightful observations from the eye of a poetic undertaker.

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Message Number 141570

Re: NO password necessary it seems- just click on 'start slideshow' View Thread
Posted by JudyS on 1/07/04 at 12:21

Hi Kathy - well, it's all so new to us that my husband keeps calling it "House Beautiful"! We were way overdue for some sprucing up. We made the decision to do this remodel as opposed to moving.
The plans were actually all mine. They've been worked and reworked in my head a million times in the last few years. My desire to have the openness plus, as you say, bringing the outside in, was the basis for the design - that and the fact that we had a living room and a dining room that we seldom used. And I knew that none of those was was weight-bearing. Every inch of the kitchen was designed by me also to meet three needs, one, cost, two, prettiness, and, three, ease and effectiveness for cooking.
So, for starters, I did not order custom-made cabinets but rather ordered the cabinets from Thomasville through Lowes. Also, I bucked a trend and did not go with solid-surface countertops. I never saw any that I liked much and I did that also because I wanted oak edging on the countertop. For 'prettiness' I added the glass-doored cabinet which, along with the base cabinet below it, is bumped out three inches. On order are some corbels which will extend from the bottom of the glass cabinet to the surface of the countertop and will succeed in making the area look like a built-in hutch. I also bumped out the sink cabinet because I got SO sick of trying to clean that narrow area between the back of the sink and the backsplash! And I got my contractor to install the new kitchen window in an extended framework so that I'll have a REAL window sill!
The island is completely designed to accomodate the way I cook. I put the cooktop there because I never liked facing a wall while I cooked. It is five burners for big events but also so that I can just slide a hot pan off a hot burner and not worry about finding a trivet. Under the cooktop is a 36-inch wide drawer for all cooking utensils - I also got sick of searching three or more drawers for utensils! Under that is a base cabinet with pull-out shelves which hold my cookware - each piece with it's own lid on it! Hurray!
To the cooktop's left is another big drawer which holds all my baking utensils and under that is another pull-out type cabinet which holds all my baking goods - flour, etc. Next to that cabinet is a lazy-susan cabinet which holds all my baking pans.
The point being that everything is within arms' reach and I just love that. It was also very important to me to have all that island work surface because I tend to spread things out a bunch when I'm cooking and especially when I make bread. And there is a 15-inch wide cabinet to the right of the cooktop that houses a trash can.
A little extra touch is that each of the three new lazy-susan cabinets is set up for a left-hander......me! They all open from the left to the right so I open them with my right hand and can reach in with my left.
The 'fridge is what is called a 'counter-depth' fridge. They are not easy to find but I did find that three companies make them. It doesn't extend out from the counter as far as most.
You've guessed it - the whole thing was designed for quick access to the outside and for sort of a flow from the front french doors to the rear sliders. We'd actually started in the back yard last summer but put that on hold to do the inside. The contractors really needed the back area for their trucks and for hauling things in and out. Once we go back to working on the yard's renovation, trucks won't be able to drive through there anymore.

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Message Number 137937

My experience with MSM View Thread
Posted by Kathy G on 11/19/03 at 09:28


It's been about four weeks since I started taking MSM and since I am less fearful that I am tempting the fates, I will tell you that I am cautiously optimistic about the affects it is having on my feet. I have been taking 1,000 mg. daily and after a week or so, I was amazed at the difference in my feet. The pain in my arches and metatarsal area has lessened and the pain in my heels is present only rarely. This is so amazing that I keep thinking it's a fluke but it's been for quite a while now! I have been careful not to overdo it but I have increased my activity somewhat and even have taken a couple of short walks and the pain level has not increased as dramatically as it would have previously. Yesterday, for example, I walked quite a bit and while my feet feel it today, the discomfort is nothing like it would have been pre-MSM and my HEELS don't hurt!

I have started taking it twice a day, this week, as the recommended doseage is usually 2,000 mg.

Ironically, my arthritis pain hasn't lessened and that's the reason I was taking it in the first place but I will gladly accept pain reduction anywhere I can get it!

My arthritis pain is much more controlled since my PCP prescribed Ultram two weeks ago. It definitely isn't the Ultram that's helping the foot pain as my feet started to improve before the introduction of Ultram.

So I encourage you all to give MSM a try. It's water soluble so your body will excrete anything it doesn't need and although there are no longterm studies yet available on it, many rheumatologists are recommending it so I think it's a safe supplement. In my case, I bought it at Costco because their Kirkland brands have been tested and come out so high in many consumer tests and I trust them. I'm sure there are many other brands out there that are just as trustworthy.

Remember I am the original doubting Thomas and I really didn't believe that this would help me at all. Whether the improvement will disappear as it did when I tried Arnica several years ago for my tendonitis, I don't know. All I know is that if the good Lord decided to give me RA, he was kind enough to provide me with MSM to help get rid of one other source of pain!

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Message Number 134669

Re: your next View Thread
Posted by John H on 10/19/03 at 11:54

D. Thomas: I will certainly miss your post and expertise. We are losing a lot of our foot experts which I think is part of the engine that makes this train go. New people who come in here all the time are attracted by foot experts. They also like to know there are others suffering like themselves and hear all the first hand accounts of our experiences. Together we were a formadible team in helping people with foot problems. We are losing some important members of the team. Good luck and as an old pilot would say "good hunting".

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Message Number 134663

Re: your next View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 10/19/03 at 10:24



Very good point Brian, but Scott R does not see it that way at all.

Analogy-

One of my buddies is a golf pro at Torrey Pines, and he has these older men that have played there for the past 20 years every Saturday morning. The older men bascially think they own the place and can dictate what they believe is right to all others simply because they think they own the place because of tenure. This is place no different than Torry Pines, except that Heelspurs has an owner and Torrey Pines is a public golf course. And there lies the important difference.

I will send you and Ed my Email address so we can stay in touch.

Best Regards everyone and I really hope everyone finds a cure for their PF.

Result number: 150

Message Number 133466

Re: Changing the constitution View Thread
Posted by Rick R on 10/10/03 at 14:45

I'm just concerned that our whole system is at risk, or perhaps more at risk these days. It could be Martin Sheen or Sean Penn or whomever. I'm no fan of career politicians. I like to use Jefferson as an example, inventor, planter , musician, archeologist, and oh yea President.

The very first time Mr. Clinton graced my television screne I turned to my wife and said that was our next president. At the time Paul Tsongus(?) or what ever his name was, was the Democratic front runner. It was only by virtue of his appearence, the sound of his name, and his speaking ability I felt he was a shoe in, long before I had a clue what he would claim to stand for. Not a new situation mind you, as you pointed out Grant rode his military fame (Lord knows we couldn't give George H. Thomas the credit for winning the war he was a Virginian) and had little skill for the big chair. Although, today we have a few getting that recognition via the military, If what we are seeing now is an indication that the military pool is being largely replaced by actors I think we are worse off. Lincoln would have a hard time these days with his gangly body and squeeky voice.

I do think that Arnold will prove to be a better choice than his predesessor. For one thing the Republican party has a golden opportunity to strengthen their national position by helping the situation in California. He will be well supported, indeed.

It's going to be interesting to watch.

Rick

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Message Number 133060

Re: Help needed for round up of those who have left. View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 10/09/03 at 09:56

Necee:
About 6 people left but 3 came back after Scott's compromise. We have not heard from Bonnie, D. Thomas and BG yet.
Ed

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Message Number 133023

To Ed View Thread
Posted by JudyS on 10/09/03 at 07:03

Ed, you are wrong. Scott did not go out of his way to accommodate everybody. 'Everybody' was accommodated quite nicely with his original decision - there were, and still are, plenty of political websites around for you to go to. No, Ed, Scott went out of his way to accommodate YOU.
Why? Because you refused to maturely and graciously respect his initial decision re: no politics. And because you had the AUDACITY to suggest in a post that Scott's decision was cutting Scott's own professional throat. Good God - Scott's website was originated for FEET - NOT for your political ego or anyone else's. You came here to help with FEET, didn't you? But then you found a convenient little vehicle with which to inflate your ego - political or otherwise.
You are one troubling individual, Ed. You were a big, whiny baby last spring and you still are. You HAD to have your way so you just couldn't be adult enough to take politics to a more appropriate place. You know what? You did EXACTLY the same thing last spring - you just wouldn't let go - your dogma was annoying then and nothing less than frightening now.
You call yourself a doctor? Amazing. How can a so-called doctor claim to be a humanitarian, a professional, when addressing patients on one board then turn into a complete ass when addressing those same people on another? Sure am glad you're not MY doctor. Seems to me I remember a couple of posters say exactly the same thing to you last spring.
And where are those posters now, Ed? What's the common denominator?

You.

John h, you are wrong. No one EVER tried to 'control' things at this board - except Scott. You are going to have to admit that control was never an issue - wanting the board's original peace was and political discussions disallowed that - especially the ones with the participants who insisted on being rude asses.

Speaking of control - looks like you fellas did a real fine job wresting control of HS.com away from its owner. Nothing like a little browbeating and professional threatening to get a guy to change his mind. And you are wrong about freedom of speech – the concept was never applicable in this instance. This was not about freedom of speech – it was about discussions in their appropriate places. Can’t yell ‘fire’ in a theatre, can you?

I am sick and tired of all of you who tried to make this issue something it never was and creating a smoke screen of hysteria.

It was about getting this board back to the wonderful and friendly place it was before politics dominated - it was about accommodating those who wanted politics by asking them to go to an appropriate political website. Why that was so damn difficult is truly mind-boggling. The disrespect shown to Scott and the rest of us PF people - on THIS PF WEBSITE - is astonishing. And it's something I'll never forget given the truly beautiful nature that was born with this board and which SOME OF US have tried valiantly to maintain. But no, some of you just couldn't have that, could you? No, you had to stick out your macho chests and claim that we were trying to control you. What a bunch of baby hogwash. All we asked for was the original peace and pure friendship that came with the ss board. That began deteriorating the very minute that politics was introduced.

You guys are gloating now and that's something we of the opposite point of view did not do with Scott's initial decision. We respected him and we respected you and we felt confident that you and Marie had found a very reasonable solution - the same solution we'd all suggested in the first place! You had many places to go with your political needs but you refused. We, however, no longer have our friendly little website.

No - even Marie's solution and work wasn't good enough for you. You'd perceived an "L" here and your egos just couldn't live with it. So now you got your little way, didn't you? You couldn't POSSIBLY just have respected Scott's decision - no, you had to keep browbeating him as you've done all the rest of us. How respectful is THAT? And now you've caused Scott extra work and extra web space. Cool. Hope you're proud of yourselves. Nobody ever browbeat or intimidated YOU. We didn't all disagree with your politics - we just suggested a PERFECTLY REASONABLE alternative to the problems here which had nothing to do with your politics. Oh but you couldn't possibly have made such a reasonable change, could you? Nope. You had to keep at it until it's festering opened up a huge, raw, boiling, roiling wound. And all because you just HAD to be allowed to argue politics on this friendly little website. Or was that really it, Dr. Ed? I wonder. I wonder if it wasn't really because you thought you were on the losing end of the deal and you couldn't cope with that. Just like last spring. I’m 53 years old, I know a flimsy male ego when I see one.

And yet again, because you couldn't simply go to an appropriate website, ONCE AGAIN people have been driven off. Does anyone recall that happening BEFORE as a result of political discussions? Good heavens - WHAT'S THE COMMON DENOMINATOR? But no, you couldn't be adult and accept Scott's decision - you just had to keep bombarding him until he relented. Well I for one have no more respect for his vacillating than I do your childishness. And to think that we quite nearly had Julie and Nancy back in our midst.
Here's a thought -it was interesting, though not surprising, that panic seemed to break out on the part of ed and a few others when they thought people like phil c, peter, d thomas, bg, et al might have left. So where's the panic about posters like me or Julie or Carole or anyone else who doesn't show up because of political rancor- or because of the browbeating by those who were unhappy with Scott's decision? I didn't notice any frantic search for Nancy S, Nancy N, Julie, and a couple of others when they left - or even when I indicated I was adios. And recently, I didn't notice that these guys asked "where is Suzanne?" or "where is Carole or Necee? or anyone else who is perhaps sick of the politics and thus quieter. Hmmm.....the 'missing' people are the same ones who had the courage to applaud Scott's original decision. But you got 'em good, didn't you Ed? You beat them, us, down. Hypocrisy runs rampant in your camp, doesn't it? But then why not - you got your way. You'll notice that you only miss the presence of THOSE WHO AGREE WITH YOU! What a shock. By the way – your tactics, Ed, have finally come to dominate Scott and this website. I wonder what’s next here for you?

Well hey, let's say you hadn't coerced Scott and his decision stood - which would have resulted in some folks leaving the boards! Maybe even a doc or two. Get it? Anger created as a result OF POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS! If there had never been those discussions, people wouldn't be feeling the need to bail - people on any side of the issue.

Yes, you got yourselves a sweet little politics board. Here at HEELSPURS.com. Seems like an appropriate place for discussions on politics. You all KEEP SAYING that other political websites are far more rancorous than that you've created here - so why the heck couldn’t you just keep your politics THERE? You know those sites exist so what's the problem? I guess there is a serious dearth of political websites from which to choose so you MUST have one here. Oh wait - I KNOW WHY you don't just stay in other political websites - it's because you only visit ones where everyone agrees with you! And it's really damn difficult to browbeat people at THOSE websites isn't it? In fact, it’s probably difficult to browbeat folks at opposing political sites – they’d let you have it with both barrels. Heck, here you've got a whole bunch of really sweet people to intimidate.
You political guys disgust me. You should be ashamed of yourselves for pressuring Scott so much and being unwilling to maturely accept his initial decision. You should be ashamed of yourselves for ridiculing a group of people who wanted nothing more that a peaceful, innocuous little website. What the heck is WRONG with wanting that? You guys have your common sense on backwards - if at all. You KNEW what this website was all about and you didn't give a damn. You KNEW that discussions of politics and religion nearly always lead to problems in any conversation in any social setting. You KNEW that that was the truth here - proven time and again. But you didn't give a damn. Your respect for the overall welfare of this website is abysmal at best. Haven't you even noticed that many folks simply STOPPED debating you in your little political discussions because of your intimidations? Wow, you sure got this place cleaned up, didn't you? Now you can happily all go to your little political board and stroke each other.

Oh gosh – do I sound bitter?

So, for anyone who INSISTS that political discussions are not harmful, just LOOK at these last weeks! Just remember the post 9/11 debacle. Just remember the pre-war debacle. JUST LOOK AT US NOW! JUST LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT OR ARE CHOOSING TO LEAVE IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO - as a direct RESULT of political discussions! You just don't get it.
But no, you had to have your way. You couldn't concede to Scott's wishes graciously. By the way, do you realize that NO ONE asked Scott to disallow political postings as you, Ed, say was done behind your backs? But as with all your other histrionics, Ed, that was also untrue. NO ONE asked Scott to disallow political postings - he managed that wise decision all on his own. And you're wrong, Ed, about people expressing their concern on the boards instead of (behind your back) to Scott. You're wrong because it had gotten to the point, these last months and especially when the others left, that we were simply AFRAID to try to say something here. Why? Well because some of the people in the beloved political discussions would simply insult and browbeat those making the request. How does that make you feel, Ed? How does it feel to know that YOU make people afraid? You say you're as interested as anyone in having respectful political discussions but your actual behavior contradicts that. I saw it a year ago and I saw it last spring but I chose to be a non-participant. Well I've seen it again now and I've chosen to SAY SO. You can't browbeat me Ed. Neither can your minions. Oh yes, 'minions' I said. You led the charge Ed with your trumped up hysteria and your respected Doctor label. NO ONE tried to control this board - you just saw some people applaud Scott's decision and you, yet again, jumped to the wrong conclusion and CREATED something that needn't have existed - hysteria - yet again. The only thing some people did (and NO, I was not one of them) was tell Scott that YET AGAIN political conversations were leading to trouble. He made his wise decision all on his own as any sensible person would do. And some of us agreed with him. And that opened the floodgates to your shaky ego. In fact, your ego was well intact when you and I first discussed this issue – until I disagreed with you. Then your intimidations and false innuendo began – you were SO predictable.

Here is what you did, Ed;

One, you claimed that a ‘gang’ went behind your back(s) to urge Scott to disallow political discussions. That was not true.
Two, you claimed that people, i.e., Bonnie, was leaving the website early in the discussion and she’d never said that.
Three, you claimed that we were only attempting to impose on your conservative political point of view, that was not true as several of us stated that we did not oppose your political point of view.
Four, you claimed that we were deliberately imposing on your right to free speech – that was the real hysteria-producer. When, in fact, we, and Scott, only asked that you move the inappropriate political discussions to a political website.

Your claims succeeded in creating hysteria amongst your followers. Well done. You’d be a good politician. Sort of like Bill Clinton – or is it Hillary?

I know that I've stepped out of character here with this long and vicious diatribe. I even know that it's a temper tantrum (you're familiar with that, right Ed?.) I know that it violates all that I've wanted to be on this board, but, as I have throughout this discussion, I refuse to be a 'look the other way' bystander anymore. You, Ed, have wreaked havoc more than once and it's time someone was undiplomatic enough to say so. I respect Phil and John and the others, (definitely NOT Peter - especially when the rest of you guys wink and look the other way with his horrid nonsense) but I feel that you used your title and their sensibilities to urge them to follow you down a non-existent path of hysteria. It would have been EXTREMELY simple to have just moved to a proper political website. And had you any class at all, you’d have done that while admitting to the reality that political discussions here always cause trouble in this otherwise comfortable place. And had you any class as a PROFESSIONAL CONTRIBUTOR here, you’d have taken a higher road.

Now I'll make one more prediction, when you see this post you'll go running to Scott with your crybaby tears and claim that I've been rude. Well you're sure right about that.

So finally, as did Julie, Nancy, Nancy et al, I bid you adieu. You're pretty much the last person I'll ever have a need to 'chat' with as I am prone to surrounding myself with respectful, sophisticated people. I’m sure that even my meager experience with PF is not good enough for you and your minions now that you’ve gotten your way. I no longer have respect for you (especially as a professional) or for Scott and I truly mourn the loss of a vehicle that saved me during the seriously dark days of PF. I'll mourn that loss because I don't believe that a political section on this website will be a viable solution. The anger generated there, and it WILL occur, will spill over in to other conversations just as it always has. I just wonder how much more controlling browbeating you'll do, Ed, if anything you don't like comes up again? You did that on one or two of the other boards too, didn't you Ed? I'm absolutely certain it won't end here. You even brought Julie and Nancy back for a short time you're so outlandish. But can they stay? Heck no. You always seem to find a way to nastily jab at those who disagree with you and convince others that they are the devil incarnate.

If arguments of a political nature are more important here than the collective PF experiences and contributions of people like Nancy and Julie, then we've all got things bass-ackwards.

What's the common denominator?

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Message Number 133022

To Ed View Thread
Posted by JudyS on 10/09/03 at 06:53

Ed, you are wrong. Scott did not go out of his way to accommodate everybody. 'Everybody' was accommodated quite nicely with his original decision - there were, and still are, plenty of political websites around for you to go to. No, Ed, Scott went out of his way to accommodate YOU.
Why? Because you refused to maturely and graciously respect his initial decision re: no politics. And because you had the AUDACITY to suggest in a post that Scott's decision was cutting Scott's own professional throat. Good God - Scott's website was originated for FEET - NOT for your political ego or anyone else's. You came here to help with FEET, didn't you? But then you found a convenient little vehicle with which to inflate your ego - political or otherwise.
You are one troubling individual, Ed. You were a big, whiny baby last spring and you still are. You HAD to have your way so you just couldn't be adult enough to take politics to a more appropriate place. You know what? You did EXACTLY the same thing last spring - you just wouldn't let go - your dogma was annoying then and nothing less than frightening now.
You call yourself a doctor? Amazing. How can a so-called doctor claim to be a humanitarian, a professional, when addressing patients on one board then turn into a complete ass when addressing those same people on another? Sure am glad you're not MY doctor. Seems to me I remember a couple of posters say exactly the same thing to you last spring.
And where are those posters now, Ed? What's the common denominator?

You.

John h, you are wrong. No one EVER tried to 'control' things at this board - except Scott. You are going to have to admit that control was never an issue - wanting the board's original peace was and political discussions disallowed that - especially the ones with the participants who insisted on being rude asses.

Speaking of control - looks like you fellas did a real fine job wresting control of HS.com away from its owner. Nothing like a little browbeating and professional threatening to get a guy to change his mind. And you are wrong about freedom of speech – the concept was never applicable in this instance. This was not about freedom of speech – it was about discussions in their appropriate places. Can’t yell ‘fire’ in a theatre, can you?

I am sick and tired of all of you who tried to make this issue something it never was and creating a smoke screen of hysteria.

It was about getting this board back to the wonderful and friendly place it was before politics dominated - it was about accommodating those who wanted politics by asking them to go to an appropriate political website. Why that was so damn difficult is truly mind-boggling. The disrespect shown to Scott and the rest of us PF people - on THIS PF WEBSITE - is astonishing. And it's something I'll never forget given the truly beautiful nature that was born with this board and which SOME OF US have tried valiantly to maintain. But no, some of you just couldn't have that, could you? No, you had to stick out your macho chests and claim that we were trying to control you. What a bunch of baby hogwash. All we asked for was the original peace and pure friendship that came with the ss board. That began deteriorating the very minute that politics was introduced.

You guys are gloating now and that's something we of the opposite point of view did not do with Scott's initial decision. We respected him and we respected you and we felt confident that you and Marie had found a very reasonable solution - the same solution we'd all suggested in the first place! You had many places to go with your political needs but you refused. We, however, no longer have our friendly little website.

No - even Marie's solution and work wasn't good enough for you. You'd perceived an "L" here and your egos just couldn't live with it. So now you got your little way, didn't you? You couldn't POSSIBLY just have respected Scott's decision - no, you had to keep browbeating him as you've done all the rest of us. How respectful is THAT? And now you've caused Scott extra work and extra web space. Cool. Hope you're proud of yourselves. Nobody ever browbeat or intimidated YOU. We didn't all disagree with your politics - we just suggested a PERFECTLY REASONABLE alternative to the problems here which had nothing to do with your politics. Oh but you couldn't possibly have made such a reasonable change, could you? Nope. You had to keep at it until it's festering opened up a huge, raw, boiling, roiling wound. And all because you just HAD to be allowed to argue politics on this friendly little website. Or was that really it, Dr. Ed? I wonder. I wonder if it wasn't really because you thought you were on the losing end of the deal and you couldn't cope with that. Just like last spring. I’m 53 years old, I know a flimsy male ego when I see one.

And yet again, because you couldn't simply go to an appropriate website, ONCE AGAIN people have been driven off. Does anyone recall that happening BEFORE as a result of political discussions? Good heavens - WHAT'S THE COMMON DENOMINATOR? But no, you couldn't be adult and accept Scott's decision - you just had to keep bombarding him until he relented. Well I for one have no more respect for his vacillating than I do your childishness. And to think that we quite nearly had Julie and Nancy back in our midst.
Here's a thought -it was interesting, though not surprising, that panic seemed to break out on the part of ed and a few others when they thought people like phil c, peter, d thomas, bg, et al might have left. So where's the panic about posters like me or Julie or Carole or anyone else who doesn't show up because of political rancor- or because of the browbeating by those who were unhappy with Scott's decision? I didn't notice any frantic search for Nancy S, Nancy N, Julie, and a couple of others when they left - or even when I indicated I was adios. And recently, I didn't notice that these guys asked "where is Suzanne?" or "where is Carole or Necee? or anyone else who is perhaps sick of the politics and thus quieter. Hmmm.....the 'missing' people are the same ones who had the courage to applaud Scott's original decision. But you got 'em good, didn't you Ed? You beat them, us, down. Hypocrisy runs rampant in your camp, doesn't it? But then why not - you got your way. You'll notice that you only miss the presence of THOSE WHO AGREE WITH YOU! What a shock. By the way – your tactics, Ed, have finally come to dominate Scott and this website. I wonder what’s next here for you?

Well hey, let's say you hadn't coerced Scott and his decision stood - which would have resulted in some folks leaving the boards! Maybe even a doc or two. Get it? Anger created as a result OF POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS! If there had never been those discussions, people wouldn't be feeling the need to bail - people on any side of the issue.

Yes, you got yourselves a sweet little politics board. Here at HEELSPURS.com. Seems like an appropriate place for discussions on politics. You all KEEP SAYING that other political websites are far more rancorous than that you've created here - so why the heck couldn’t you just keep your politics THERE? You know those sites exist so what's the problem? I guess there is a serious dearth of political websites from which to choose so you MUST have one here. Oh wait - I KNOW WHY you don't just stay in other political websites - it's because you only visit ones where everyone agrees with you! And it's really damn difficult to browbeat people at THOSE websites isn't it? In fact, it’s probably difficult to browbeat folks at opposing political sites – they’d let you have it with both barrels. Heck, here you've got a whole bunch of really sweet people to intimidate.
You political guys disgust me. You should be ashamed of yourselves for pressuring Scott so much and being unwilling to maturely accept his initial decision. You should be ashamed of yourselves for ridiculing a group of people who wanted nothing more that a peaceful, innocuous little website. What the heck is WRONG with wanting that? You guys have your common sense on backwards - if at all. You KNEW what this website was all about and you didn't give a damn. You KNEW that discussions of politics and religion nearly always lead to problems in any conversation in any social setting. You KNEW that that was the truth here - proven time and again. But you didn't give a damn. Your respect for the overall welfare of this website is abysmal at best. Haven't you even noticed that many folks simply STOPPED debating you in your little political discussions because of your intimidations? Wow, you sure got this place cleaned up, didn't you? Now you can happily all go to your little political board and stroke each other.

Oh gosh – do I sound bitter?

So, for anyone who INSISTS that political discussions are not harmful, just LOOK at these last weeks! Just remember the post 9/11 debacle. Just remember the pre-war debacle. JUST LOOK AT US NOW! JUST LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT OR ARE CHOOSING TO LEAVE IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO - as a direct RESULT of political discussions! You just don't get it.
But no, you had to have your way. You couldn't concede to Scott's wishes graciously. By the way, do you realize that NO ONE asked Scott to disallow political postings as you, Ed, say was done behind your backs? But as with all your other histrionics, Ed, that was also untrue. NO ONE asked Scott to disallow political postings - he managed that wise decision all on his own. And you're wrong, Ed, about people expressing their concern on the boards instead of (behind your back) to Scott. You're wrong because it had gotten to the point, these last months and especially when the others left, that we were simply AFRAID to try to say something here. Why? Well because some of the people in the beloved political discussions would simply insult and browbeat those making the request. How does that make you feel, Ed? How does it feel to know that YOU make people afraid? You say you're as interested as anyone in having respectful political discussions but your actual behavior contradicts that. I saw it a year ago and I saw it last spring but I chose to be a non-participant. Well I've seen it again now and I've chosen to SAY SO. You can't browbeat me Ed. Neither can your minions. Oh yes, 'minions' I said. You led the charge Ed with your trumped up hysteria and your respected Doctor label. NO ONE tried to control this board - you just saw some people applaud Scott's decision and you, yet again, jumped to the wrong conclusion and CREATED something that needn't have existed - hysteria - yet again. The only thing some people did (and NO, I was not one of them) was tell Scott that YET AGAIN political conversations were leading to trouble. He made his wise decision all on his own as any sensible person would do. And some of us agreed with him. And that opened the floodgates to your shaky ego. In fact, your ego was well intact when you and I first discussed this issue – until I disagreed with you. Then your intimidations and false innuendo began – you were SO predictable.

Here is what you did, Ed;

One, you claimed that a ‘gang’ went behind your back(s) to urge Scott to disallow political discussions. That was not true.
Two, you claimed that people, i.e., Bonnie, was leaving the website early in the discussion and she’d never said that.
Three, you claimed that we were only attempting to impose on your conservative political point of view, that was not true as several of us stated that we did not oppose your political point of view.
Four, you claimed that we were deliberately imposing on your right to free speech – that was the real hysteria-producer. When, in fact, we, and Scott, only asked that you move the inappropriate political discussions to a political website.

Your claims succeeded in creating hysteria amongst your followers. Well done. You’d be a good politician. Sort of like Bill Clinton – or is it Hillary?

I know that I've stepped out of character here with this long and vicious diatribe. I even know that it's a temper tantrum (you're familiar with that, right Ed?.) I know that it violates all that I've wanted to be on this board, but, as I have throughout this discussion, I refuse to be a 'look the other way' bystander anymore. You, Ed, have wreaked havoc more than once and it's time someone was undiplomatic enough to say so. I respect Phil and John and the others, (definitely NOT Peter - especially when the rest of you guys wink and look the other way with his horrid nonsense) but I feel that you used your title and their sensibilities to urge them to follow you down a non-existent path of hysteria. It would have been EXTREMELY simple to have just moved to a proper political website. And had you any class at all, you’d have done that while admitting to the reality that political discussions here always cause trouble in this otherwise comfortable place. And had you any class as a PROFESSIONAL CONTRIBUTOR here, you’d have taken a higher road.

Now I'll make one more prediction, when you see this post you'll go running to Scott with your crybaby tears and claim that I've been rude. Well you're sure right about that.

So finally, as did Julie, Nancy, Nancy et al, I bid you adieu. You're pretty much the last person I'll ever have a need to 'chat' with as I am prone to surrounding myself with respectful, sophisticated people. I’m sure that even my meager experience with PF is not good enough for you and your minions now that you’ve gotten your way. I no longer have respect for you (especially as a professional) or for Scott and I truly mourn the loss of a vehicle that saved me during the seriously dark days of PF. I'll mourn that loss because I don't believe that a political section on this website will be a viable solution. The anger generated there, and it WILL occur, will spill over in to other conversations just as it always has. I just wonder how much more controlling browbeating you'll do, Ed, if anything you don't like comes up again? You did that on one or two of the other boards too, didn't you Ed? I'm absolutely certain it won't end here. You even brought Julie and Nancy back for a short time you're so outlandish. But can they stay? Heck no. You always seem to find a way to nastily jab at those who disagree with you and convince others that they are the devil incarnate.

If arguments of a political nature are more important here than the collective PF experiences and contributions of people like Nancy and Julie, then we've all got things bass-ackwards.

What's the common denominator?

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Result number: 154

Message Number 132992

Re: Scott's words View Thread
Posted by JudyS on 10/08/03 at 23:47

Ed, you are wrong. Scott did not go out of his way to accommodate everybody. 'Everybody' was accommodated quite nicely with his original decision - there were, and still are, plenty of political websites around for you to go to. No, Ed, Scott went out of his way to accommodate YOU.
Why? Because you refused to maturely and graciously respect his initial decision re: no politics. And because you had the AUDACITY to suggest in a post that Scott's decision was cutting Scott's own professional throat. Good God - Scott's website was originated for FEET - NOT for your political ego or anyone else's. You came here to help with FEET, didn't you? But then you found a convenient little vehicle with which to inflate your ego - political or otherwise.
You are one troubling individual, Ed. You were a big, whiny baby last spring and you still are. You HAD to have your way so you just couldn't be adult enough to take politics to a more appropriate place. You know what? You did EXACTLY the same thing last spring - you just wouldn't let go - your dogma was annoying then and nothing less than frightening now.
You call yourself a doctor? Amazing. How can a so-called doctor claim to be a humanitarian, a professional, when addressing patients on one board then turn into a complete ass when addressing those same people on another? Sure am glad you're not MY doctor. Seems to me I remember a couple of posters say exactly the same thing to you last spring.
And where are those posters now, Ed? What's the common denominator?

You.

John h, you are wrong. No one EVER tried to 'control' things at this board - except Scott. You are going to have to admit that control was never an issue - wanting the board's original peace was and political discussions disallowed that - especially the ones with the participants who insisted on being rude asses.

Speaking of control - looks like you fellas did a real fine job wresting control of HS.com away from its owner. Nothing like a little browbeating and professional threatening to get a guy to change his mind. And you are wrong about freedom of speech – the concept was never applicable in this instance. This was not about freedom of speech – it was about discussions in their appropriate places. Can’t yell ‘fire’ in a theatre, can you?

I am sick and tired of all of you who tried to make this issue something it never was and creating a smoke screen of hysteria.

It was about getting this board back to the wonderful and friendly place it was before politics dominated - it was about accommodating those who wanted politics by asking them to go to an appropriate political website. Why that was so damn difficult is truly mind-boggling. The disrespect shown to Scott and the rest of us PF people - on THIS PF WEBSITE - is astonishing. And it's something I'll never forget given the truly beautiful nature that was born with this board and which SOME OF US have tried valiantly to maintain. But no, some of you just couldn't have that, could you? No, you had to stick out your macho chests and claim that we were trying to control you. What a bunch of baby hogwash. All we asked for was the original peace and pure friendship that came with the ss board. That began deteriorating the very minute that politics was introduced.

You guys are gloating now and that's something we of the opposite point of view did not do with Scott's initial decision. We respected him and we respected you and we felt confident that you and Marie had found a very reasonable solution - the same solution we'd all suggested in the first place! You had many places to go with your political needs but you refused. We, however, no longer have our friendly little website.

No - even Marie's solution and work wasn't good enough for you. You'd perceived an "L" here and your egos just couldn't live with it. So now you got your little way, didn't you? You couldn't POSSIBLY just have respected Scott's decision - no, you had to keep browbeating him as you've done all the rest of us. How respectful is THAT? And now you've caused Scott extra work and extra web space. Cool. Hope you're proud of yourselves. Nobody ever browbeat or intimidated YOU. We didn't all disagree with your politics - we just suggested a PERFECTLY REASONABLE alternative to the problems here which had nothing to do with your politics. Oh but you couldn't possibly have made such a reasonable change, could you? Nope. You had to keep at it until it's festering opened up a huge, raw, boiling, roiling wound. And all because you just HAD to be allowed to argue politics on this friendly little website. Or was that really it, Dr. Ed? I wonder. I wonder if it wasn't really because you thought you were on the losing end of the deal and you couldn't cope with that. Just like last spring. I’m 53 years old, I know a flimsy male ego when I see one.

And yet again, because you couldn't simply go to an appropriate website, ONCE AGAIN people have been driven off. Does anyone recall that happening BEFORE as a result of political discussions? Good heavens - WHAT'S THE COMMON DENOMINATOR? But no, you couldn't be adult and accept Scott's decision - you just had to keep bombarding him until he relented. Well I for one have no more respect for his vacillating than I do your childishness. And to think that we quite nearly had Julie and Nancy back in our midst.
Here's a thought -it was interesting, though not surprising, that panic seemed to break out on the part of ed and a few others when they thought people like phil c, peter, d thomas, bg, et al might have left. So where's the panic about posters like me or Julie or Carole or anyone else who doesn't show up because of political rancor- or because of the browbeating by those who were unhappy with Scott's decision? I didn't notice any frantic search for Nancy S, Nancy N, Julie, and a couple of others when they left - or even when I indicated I was adios. And recently, I didn't notice that these guys asked "where is Suzanne?" or "where is Carole or Necee? or anyone else who is perhaps sick of the politics and thus quieter. Hmmm.....the 'missing' people are the same ones who had the courage to applaud Scott's original decision. But you got 'em good, didn't you Ed? You beat them, us, down. Hypocrisy runs rampant in your camp, doesn't it? But then why not - you got your way. You'll notice that you only miss the presence of THOSE WHO AGREE WITH YOU! What a shock. By the way – your tactics, Ed, have finally come to dominate Scott and this website. I wonder what’s next here for you?

Well hey, let's say you hadn't coerced Scott and his decision stood - which would have resulted in some folks leaving the boards! Maybe even a doc or two. Get it? Anger created as a result OF POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS! If there had never been those discussions, people wouldn't be feeling the need to bail - people on any side of the issue.

Yes, you got yourselves a sweet little politics board. Here at HEELSPURS.com. Seems like an appropriate place for discussions on politics. You all KEEP SAYING that other political websites are far more rancorous than that you've created here - so why the heck couldn’t you just keep your politics THERE? You know those sites exist so what's the problem? I guess there is a serious dearth of political websites from which to choose so you MUST have one here. Oh wait - I KNOW WHY you don't just stay in other political websites - it's because you only visit ones where everyone agrees with you! And it's really damn difficult to browbeat people at THOSE websites isn't it? In fact, it’s probably difficult to browbeat folks at opposing political sites – they’d let you have it with both barrels. Heck, here you've got a whole bunch of really sweet people to intimidate.
You political guys disgust me. You should be ashamed of yourselves for pressuring Scott so much and being unwilling to maturely accept his initial decision. You should be ashamed of yourselves for ridiculing a group of people who wanted nothing more that a peaceful, innocuous little website. What the heck is WRONG with wanting that? You guys have your common sense on backwards - if at all. You KNEW what this website was all about and you didn't give a damn. You KNEW that discussions of politics and religion nearly always lead to problems in any conversation in any social setting. You KNEW that that was the truth here - proven time and again. But you didn't give a damn. Your respect for the overall welfare of this website is abysmal at best. Haven't you even noticed that many folks simply STOPPED debating you in your little political discussions because of your intimidations? Wow, you sure got this place cleaned up, didn't you? Now you can happily all go to your little political board and stroke each other.

Oh gosh – do I sound bitter?

So, for anyone who INSISTS that political discussions are not harmful, just LOOK at these last weeks! Just remember the post 9/11 debacle. Just remember the pre-war debacle. JUST LOOK AT US NOW! JUST LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT OR ARE CHOOSING TO LEAVE IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO - as a direct RESULT of political discussions! You just don't get it.
But no, you had to have your way. You couldn't concede to Scott's wishes graciously. By the way, do you realize that NO ONE asked Scott to disallow political postings as you, Ed, say was done behind your backs? But as with all your other histrionics, Ed, that was also untrue. NO ONE asked Scott to disallow political postings - he managed that wise decision all on his own. And you're wrong, Ed, about people expressing their concern on the boards instead of (behind your back) to Scott. You're wrong because it had gotten to the point, these last months and especially when the others left, that we were simply AFRAID to try to say something here. Why? Well because some of the people in the beloved political discussions would simply insult and browbeat those making the request. How does that make you feel, Ed? How does it feel to know that YOU make people afraid? You say you're as interested as anyone in having respectful political discussions but your actual behavior contradicts that. I saw it a year ago and I saw it last spring but I chose to be a non-participant. Well I've seen it again now and I've chosen to SAY SO. You can't browbeat me Ed. Neither can your minions. Oh yes, 'minions' I said. You led the charge Ed with your trumped up hysteria and your respected Doctor label. NO ONE tried to control this board - you just saw some people applaud Scott's decision and you, yet again, jumped to the wrong conclusion and CREATED something that needn't have existed - hysteria - yet again. The only thing some people did (and NO, I was not one of them) was tell Scott that YET AGAIN political conversations were leading to trouble. He made his wise decision all on his own as any sensible person would do. And some of us agreed with him. And that opened the floodgates to your ego. In fact, your ego was well intact when you and I first discussed this issue – until I disagreed with you. Then your intimidations and false innuendo began – you were SO predictable.

Here is what you did, Ed;

One, you claimed that a ‘gang’ went behind your back(s) to urge Scott to disallow political discussions. That was not true.
Two, you claimed that people, i.e., Bonnie, was leaving the website early in the discussion and she’d never said that.
Three, you claimed that we were only attempting to impose on your conservative political point of view, that was not true as several of us stated that we did not oppose your political point of view.
Four, you claimed that we were deliberately imposing on your right to free speech – that was the real hysteria-producer. When, in fact, we, and Scott, only asked that you move the inappropriate political discussions to a political website.

Your claims succeeded in creating hysteria amongst your followers. Well done. You’d be a good politician. Sort of like Bill Clinton – or is it Hillary?

I know that I've stepped out of character here with this long and vicious diatribe. I even know that it's a temper tantrum (you're familiar with that, right Ed?.) I know that it violates all that I've wanted to be on this board, but, as I have throughout this discussion, I refuse to be a 'look the other way' bystander anymore. You, Ed, have wreaked havoc more than once and it's time someone was undiplomatic enough to say so. I respect Phil and John and the others, (definitely NOT Peter - especially when the rest of you guys wink and look the other way with his horrid nonsense) but I feel that you used your title and their sensibilities to urge them to follow you down a non-existent path of hysteria. It would have been EXTREMELY simple to have just moved to a proper political website. And had you any class at all, you’d have done that while admitting to the reality that political discussions here always cause trouble in this otherwise comfortable place. And had you any class as a PROFESSIONAL CONTRIBUTOR here, you’d have taken a higher road.

Now I'll make one more prediction, when you see this post you'll go running to Scott with your crybaby tears and claim that I've been rude. Well you're sure right about that.

So finally, as did Julie, Nancy, Nancy et al, I bid you adieu. You're pretty much the last person I'll ever have a need to 'chat' with as I am prone to surrounding myself with respectful, sophisticated people. I’m sure that even my meager experience with PF is not good enough for you and your minions now that you’ve gotten your way. I no longer have respect for you (especially as a professional) or for Scott and I truly mourn the loss of a vehicle that saved me during the seriously dark days of PF. I'll mourn that loss because I don't believe that a political section on this website will be a viable solution. The anger generated there, and it WILL occur, will spill over in to other conversations just as it always has. I just wonder how much more controlling browbeating you'll do, Ed, if anything you don't like comes up again? You did that on one or two of the other boards too, didn't you Ed? I'm absolutely certain it won't end here. You even brought Julie and Nancy back for a short time you're so outlandish. But can they stay? Heck no. You always seem to find a way to nastily jab at those who disagree with you and convince others that they are the devil incarnate.

If arguments of a political nature are more important here than the collective PF experiences and contributions of people like Nancy and Julie, then we've all got things bass-ackwards.

What's the common denominator?

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Message Number 132849

Re: Scott's words View Thread
Posted by john h on 10/08/03 at 14:05

I have Sharon's address I think. D thomas is out of town. We should have no further problems with the way things are set up. If I want peace and quiet I will go to the Social Board. If I desire to discuss something political I shall proceed to the Other board. Wish life was this simple at home. Right now I am not even sure which board I am on but my post is non political so it should work anywhere..

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Message Number 132837

Re: Scott's words View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 10/08/03 at 13:54

Judy and Pauline:

Four have left and I have not been able to convince them to return. I wasn't planning to continue posting but since ScottR went out of his way to accomodate everyone, I will, and thank him for doing so.

Please -- if people here have access to those who left, please contact them. I don't have an email address for D. Thomas. For some reason BG has not answered me in several days -- I know he was quite upset and things would not be the same without him. Sharon has not answered me either yet but I think she will. I will contact Bonnie again too.
Ed

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Message Number 132809

Three things to consider View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 10/08/03 at 12:39

1) The rancor drove a lot of "regulars" away not just docs-- D. Thomas, Bonnie, BGCPed just to name a few.
2)Politics can be discussed in a friendly way without rancor. It has been the responses of a few to political posts that have heated things up.
3)It was not just the "banning" of political discussion that caused the current conflict but HOW it occurred (or at least how many percieved that it occurred). That "how" also made people suspicious of the motives of those that may have initiated it. Julie's post today is disturbing in the motives it seems to suggest.

I don't want to go into more detail here -- just think about these things please.
Ed

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Message Number 132655

Re: Re Social/Support Board View Thread
Posted by marie on 10/07/03 at 17:43

Thanks john...I'm working on a skeleton message board. I will wait to get D. Thomas email address when he returns. I too do not wish anyone to leave the board over this. I don't plan on going anywhere....I feel like I'm just watching traffic at the moment. This is a great place with great folks. If I get this board set up for a test I'll give you a hollar. Scott is a wonderful web host and very patient with us.

marie

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Message Number 132598

Re: Re Social/Support Board View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 10/07/03 at 12:02

D. Thomas:
Count me in -- I will go with you. I will be happy to answer questions concerning foot problems. I am too limited here, not to mention my limitations on the ESWT board discussing low energy ESWT (doing it in a way that some here feel the FDA would not consider marketing). I see little value in staying here. My email is eddavisdpm@usa.com
Regards,
Ed

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Message Number 132595

Re: Re Social/Support Board View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 10/07/03 at 11:58



Marie,

I did it a couple of years ago, but much has changed. I used a site called www.deja.com, but I have found that it is now Google. You might try there and see what you can do. I would be willing to invest some money if needed.

I am out of town until Saturday. Let me know how things go and we can go from there. I am still in the process of finding a site that will host the survey. I have a couple of prospects.

I'll keep in touch. I need to setup a temp email address so I don't offend others here. I have some good ideas and would like the input of others who are interested. I will do that when I get back and post it here for my last post so anyone can keep in touch.

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Message Number 132581

Re: Re Social/Support Board View Thread
Posted by marie on 10/07/03 at 11:03

D. Thomas,

I will look into setting up a board at Google...Have you done this before?

marie

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Message Number 132575

Re: Re Social/Support Board View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 10/07/03 at 10:23



If you guys find or create another site, let me know. I know you can setup message boards at Google, Yahoo, etc. No big deal. Message board splits on issues happen all the time on the Internet.

I know one thing for sure, I am not staying around here any longer. I am not saying what is happening is wrong, it's just not my cup of tea. I am also very committed to creating another survey for PF on the Internet. So, I am open to any ideas from others who want to move on?

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Message Number 131688

Re: healthronics getting sued View Thread
Posted by Scott R on 9/29/03 at 21:19

the lead plaintiff "Thomas Thomas" bought $910 worth on 6/3/2003 and sold for a loss of $300 on 8/8/2003, after the severity of the outlook was more carefully judged and reported by healthtronics, although the charges date back to 2000.

2.5 years ago i tried to get them to explain how insurance reimbursement would be possible, but they weren't able to convince me that it was, despite their insistent optimism.

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Message Number 131533

Re: Stop this now! View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 9/28/03 at 13:58

Marie:
D. Thomas and I are going to communicate about a survery he is putting together on PF sufferers -- it has nothing to do with politics.

I, for better or worse, must agree with Phil's request to ScottR to give the message board a rest -- just for 2 to 3 months.

Your intentions are good and I appreciate that. Two of us have asked Judy to be objective in her deletion of posts. I agree with John on most things but he will not intervene to delete posts. That seems to leave Judy who just refused to delete a string upon my request.

Think about it. If no one was allowed to fight, there would be no fights.
Again, we need someone willing to delete posts and do so objectively, not based on their agreement or disagreement with what has been said.
Ed

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Message Number 131530

Stop this now! View Thread
Posted by marie on 9/28/03 at 13:50

Ok I've heard about enough. Sometimes you just have to take the high road. Obviously there seems to be some folks who are worn out from the political discussions...I can't blame them a bit. Now it's no ones fault but those who continued to post without consideration to others. Now PLEASE get beyond this. The only crazy thing here this morning is this discussion. DROP IT. If this makes me a meany head then so be it.

Ed if you and D Thomas hook up to create a chat area for politics let me know. Until then please all of you do your best to be civil.

Some of us are trying. All I ask is some effort here!!!!!!!!!

marie, the meany head and proud of it!

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Message Number 131488

Re: That's fine with me ScottR -- to bg and others who have a "problem" with the wishes of most people here View Thread
Posted by marie on 9/28/03 at 12:39

Ed

I didn't see that Bonnie was leaving just asking where a good conservative site was. You're above this kind of behavior so please settle down. I think if this kind of conversation continues Scott will shut down the social board. Do you want that to happen? Patients really need this site. I need it because I am not well and need to escape my health issues.I realize that you are hurting and I feel bad about that but it's time to let go. Have you heard from D Thomas? There is an alternative so lets take it.

I'm not making excuses for anyone's behavior so lets just please give this a go.

respectfully marie

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Message Number 131392

Re: That's fine with me ScottR -- to bg and others who have a "problem" with the wishes of most people here View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 9/28/03 at 01:23

nancy:
Why do state that I "thrust" my political views ...? I state my views and they are "thrust" on no one. I will follow D. Thomas' offer as it pertains to his study. Who are the "regular people" you speak of who don't want to here open discussion of the issues? Am I not a "regular?"
Is John H. not a "regular?" Is BG not a "regular?" Is Dr. Z not a "regular." How about Peter? Do you dislike hm enough to deny him status as a "regular?" Perhaps you would like the liberty to define "regulars" as only those individuals who agree with you.

Are you stating that I can "email to my hearts content' all those whom you will not bequeath the honor of being "regulars" but I better get off this board?
Ed

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Message Number 131389

Re: That's fine with me ScottR -- to bg and others who have a "problem" with the wishes of most people here View Thread
Posted by nancy s. on 9/28/03 at 01:04

ed: we have something in common. i too have had the displeasure of coming under attack here for my political views. from my reading, your introductions of articles or sets of ideas have not always been free of aggressiveness or of emotional attachment to them -- sometimes yes, but certainly not always. i'm quite sure you'd agree that they are not always, as would any reasonable person.

as for freedom and censorship, you might want to re-read what i posted to bg a short time ago. these things are addressed in my post, and i stand by them. i hold freedom very dear: on this message board, i'm concerned about the freedom of ALL posters who have stayed this year, especially that of people who suffer chronic pain and who i believe have a right to try to create and maintain a healing atmosphere on a website dedicated to a health problem that can make life hell.

i still wonder why you feel you must thrust your political views -- no matter what they are -- on this particular forum, when in general this kind of thing creates hard feelings and shuts some people out. (maybe some think it shouldn't have that effect, but surely you've noticed that, ultimately, it does, or at least it has here? judy expressed this very well.) you and those interested can email to your heart's content on these topics, and/or you can participate in countless political forums. why is it, do you think, that its not being welcomed anymore by the regular people here and the webmaster is so clearly upsetting to you? i thought d. thomas made a generous offer and suggest you seriously follow up on it. i imagine it would provide everything you took advantage of here. i mean, it would be a forum, and probably one with people who are more interested than those here seem to be. why not follow that path instead of trying to twist the people here into a pretzel they don't want to be? that's my sincere suggestion, and now to bed.

nancy
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Message Number 131375

Re: Edict: social board no longer for political discourse View Thread
Posted by BGCPed on 9/27/03 at 23:17

D.Thomas, hope your doing well. I think your idea has merit. If the survey is not too large I would be happy to distribute them to my patients that are ok with it. You could have an initial form then a follow mailed 6 months later. I am not sure what the average of return surveys viv mail in would be.

Another issue is would the cured or non cured be more apt to take the time to fill out the follow up and mail it or do it via the web? I see a large percentage of pf. I did 11 pair of orthotics last Friday and I average around 125 per month so I would have a good number of subjects in a relative short time.

Let me know if you have any questions

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Message Number 131358

Re: Edict: social board no longer for political discourse View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 9/27/03 at 22:10

Dr. Ed,

I agree with you 100% about how the design of most studies are built around the products to be tested, instead of really understanding the problem or disease. I am extremely busy the next couple of weeks but I will definitely take you up on this offer. I know you can and will add greatly to the design of the study. It won’t be perfect (nothing in survey research is near perfect), but it will be far better than what we have today.

I actually want to develop a probability model that you can type in the various symptoms of PF that you have (having pain in the heel or arch, TTS, fibro, length of time that you have had the problem, etc.) and the model will rank order the treatments that have had the highest probability or odds of success given your situations or symptoms. I can also estimate the probability or odds of overall success. I will also test and identify which PF symptoms are important to distinguish the different segments of PF and successful treatments, given the data. Of course I will state the limitations of the model and sample so people will only use it as helpful guidelines.

I have been using some models that really identify heterogeneity very well and I believe the symptoms of PF are a classic case. All the studies I have read and seen basically ignore the heterogeneity of the different symptoms of PF and treat everyone the same because all they do is randomize people in the groups for control (placebo vs. control groups) to test their product or treatment as a whole. They usually also limit the design by some other factors but if I was to explain each one I would be here all night.

The one issue I need to work out is that the data will be censored, in that, some people are not cured or healed at the time they take the survey. I have a couple of different models that I can use with this type of data, but I need to figure out which one is best given the final design of survey.

Another big issue is how to supplement the sample with a good unbiased list of people who have PF? I’m not looking for a “pure” random sample, but one that is better than just linking the survey on the Internet. I will also control the survey by IP address so people can’t fill it out multiple times. I have also done quite a bit of survey research on the Internet and I can easily detect false cases (i.e., people just screwing around). They are not as clever as they think – they stick out like sore thumbs.

With all this interest, I will put this as high as I can on my priority list.

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Message Number 131331

Re: That's fine with me ScottR View Thread
Posted by marie on 9/27/03 at 19:25

Ed,

I can't control everything and everyone in the world. But I can control my reaction to it. Instead of dwelling on criticism lets move forward and pursue another outlet for political discussions. Don't you think D Thomas' idea is of some value? It's really ok. When it comes together I will be there to challenge you and the others and have some fun. Until then I have some questions for you.

1. Where did you go to medical School? I've always wondered that.

2. Why did you decide to become a podiatrist? In case you didn't know I have followed all your advice and with the help and support I got here I am doing much better. My doctors really did'nt know what to do with me.

best wishes marie

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Message Number 131317

Re: That's fine with me ScottR View Thread
Posted by marie on 9/27/03 at 18:33

Well Ed,

I think of you as a friend too. You have been there for me when I needed both physical and emotional support. But I think because we are entering a politically turbulant time....we may need to take a rest form politics. I have tried to put myself in the others shoes and I think that really want to just hang out a bit. The nature of this board is the thread. It can visually look imposing to someone who really needs some support or someone who is just dropping in. I don't personally have any criticism of anyone at this board or their posts that includes you. Although I haven't cured you of that little conservative twitch that you have developed.;)

I would agree that a hot topics or light chat board would be the ideal solution but it doesn't sound like Scott has the time. With that in mind I think we should all attempt to move forward for the sake of the board. If D Thomas is serious about setting up a linked site for hot topics I think that would be a great solution.

best wishes marie

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Message Number 131307

That's fine with me ScottR View Thread
Posted by marie on 9/27/03 at 17:55

I think that people come here to yak for a variety of reasons. Mostly it should be a place that we can share and support. I went back through some posts and I do seem to recall that we had decided to try not to make so many political posts. I think we have fallen into some bad habits and it's time to rethink why we all come to the boards. The social board isn't a place to fuel ideology or debate of any kind conservative or liberal. We can choose to go elsewhere. I just think this has become a convinient stop for many.

For myself I'll talk to anyone about anything. The distraction keeps me from dwelling on the pain. We have recently had some nice discussions about cameras and collecting and such. I hope that we can put this to sleep. I'm sure there are plenty of topics you guys can talk about without involving politics. Aside from that if I want to talk about politics I can email friends or go else where.

A hot topics board really doesn't have anything to do with heelspurs. I would suggest that those who want a hot topics board reach into their pockets and hire someone to create it. Thanks D Thomas for your kind offer.

As much as I enjoy yaking with the guys about politics....I mostly miss the simple fun posts that were here when I first came to the board. And for me....if any of you male or female have some down and dirty recipes for working couples I'd be glad to hear them.

Now does anyone have any cool topics for discussion? Be serious now!

best wishes marie

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Message Number 131292

Re: Edict: social board no longer for political discourse View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 9/27/03 at 17:20

D. Thomas:

Please email me at eddavisdpm@usa.com with your ideas if you please.
I am frustrated by the lack of good data too. My professional opinion is one of dissapointment with the state of research in a number of health areas. Too many studies are performed with the end goal being a "product" that can be sold -- eg. drugs, an ESWT machine. I can understand that as being part of capitalism but it can become problematic when it pushes out or becomes a substitute for more basic research. Lets continue the discussion by email so we can leave space for cookie recipies on this board.
Ed

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Message Number 131282

Re: Edict: social board no longer for political discourse View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 9/27/03 at 16:53



I was actually thinking about putting up a link to a questionnaire I have been developing to collect some data on PF. Giving the problems that I have had and still have, I really have some things I want to analyze. I am pretty frustrated with the lack of good data to analyze and how things are currently being designed and tested.

I could easily add a message board link to it and I would allow political discussion in a political section. Most message boards in the US today, given 9/11 and Iraq, have made a political area even when it isn't close to the main topic of the board. Allowing political discussion in a separate area really hasn't been a big deal on other boards. I really don't understand why it is here?

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Message Number 131201

Stormin' Norman View Thread
Posted by marie on 9/26/03 at 20:47

Here is an older interview...I'll try to find a more recent one.
Desert Caution
Once 'Stormin' Norman,' Gen. Schwarzkopf Is Skeptical About U.S. Action in Iraq
By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 28, 2003; Page C01


TAMPA--Norman Schwarzkopf wants to give peace a chance.








The general who commanded U.S. forces in the 1991 Gulf War says he hasn't seen enough evidence to convince him that his old comrades Dick Cheney, Colin Powell and Paul Wolfowitz are correct in moving toward a new war now. He thinks U.N. inspections are still the proper course to follow. He's worried about the cockiness of the U.S. war plan, and even more by the potential human and financial costs of occupying Iraq.

And don't get him started on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

In fact, the hero of the last Gulf War sounds surprisingly like the man on the street when he discusses his ambivalence about the Bush administration's hawkish stance on ousting Saddam Hussein. He worries about the Iraqi leader, but would like to see some persuasive evidence of Iraq's alleged weapons programs.

"The thought of Saddam Hussein with a sophisticated nuclear capability is a frightening thought, okay?" he says. "Now, having said that, I don't know what intelligence the U.S. government has. And before I can just stand up and say, 'Beyond a shadow of a doubt, we need to invade Iraq,' I guess I would like to have better information."

He hasn't seen that yet, and so -- in sharp contrast to the Bush administration -- he supports letting the U.N. weapons inspectors drive the timetable: "I think it is very important for us to wait and see what the inspectors come up with, and hopefully they come up with something conclusive."

This isn't just any retired officer speaking. Schwarzkopf is one of the nation's best-known military officers, with name recognition second only to his former boss, Secretary of State Powell. What's more, he is closely allied with the Bush family. He hunts with the first President Bush. He campaigned for the second, speaking on military issues at the 2000 GOP convention in Philadelphia and later stumping in Florida with Cheney, who was secretary of defense during the 1991 war.

But he sees the world differently from those Gulf War colleagues. "It's obviously not a black-and-white situation over there" in the Mideast, he says. "I would just think that whatever path we take, we have to take it with a bit of prudence."

So has he seen sufficient prudence in the actions of his old friends in the Bush administration? Again, he carefully withholds his endorsement. "I don't think I can give you an honest answer on that."

Now 68, the general seems smaller and more soft-spoken than in his Riyadh heyday 12 years ago when he was "Stormin' Norman," the fatigues-clad martinet who intimidated subordinates and reporters alike. During last week's interview he sat at a small, round table in his skyscraper office, casually clad in slacks and a black polo shirt, the bland banks and hotels of Tampa's financial district spread out beyond him.

His voice seems thinner than during those blustery, globally televised Gulf War briefings. He is limping from a recent knee operation. He sometimes stays home to nurse the swelling with a bag of frozen peas.

He's had time to think. He likes the performance of Colin Powell -- chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Gulf War, now secretary of state. "He's doing a wonderful job, I think," he says. But he is less impressed by Rumsfeld, whose briefings he has watched on television.

"Candidly, I have gotten somewhat nervous at some of the pronouncements Rumsfeld has made," says Schwarzkopf.

He contrasts Cheney's low profile as defense secretary during the Gulf War with Rumsfeld's frequent television appearances since Sept. 11, 2001. "He almost sometimes seems to be enjoying it." That, Schwarzkopf admonishes, is a sensation to be avoided when engaged in war.

The general is a true son of the Army, where he served from 1956 to 1991, and some of his comments reflect the estrangement between that service and the current defense secretary. Some at the top of the Army see Rumsfeld and those around him as overly enamored of air power and high technology and insufficiently attentive to the brutal difficulties of ground combat. Schwarzkopf's comments reflect Pentagon scuttlebutt that Rumsfeld and his aides have brushed aside some of the Army's concerns.

"The Rumsfeld thing . . . that's what comes up," when he calls old Army friends in the Pentagon, he says.

"When he makes his comments, it appears that he disregards the Army," Schwarzkopf says. "He gives the perception when he's on TV that he is the guy driving the train and everybody else better fall in line behind him -- or else."

That dismissive posture bothers Schwarzkopf because he thinks Rumsfeld and the people around him lack the background to make sound military judgments by themselves. He prefers the way Cheney operated during the Gulf War. "He didn't put himself in the position of being the decision-maker as far as tactics were concerned, as far as troop deployments, as far as missions were concerned."

Rumsfeld, by contrast, worries him. "It's scary, okay?" he says. "Let's face it: There are guys at the Pentagon who have been involved in operational planning for their entire lives, okay? . . . And for this wisdom, acquired during many operations, wars, schools, for that just to be ignored, and in its place have somebody who doesn't have any of that training, is of concern."

As a result, Schwarzkopf is skeptical that an invasion of Iraq would be as fast and simple as some seem to think. "I have picked up vibes that . . . you're going to have this massive strike with massed weaponry, and basically that's going to be it, and we just clean up the battlefield after that," he says. But, he adds, he is more comfortable now with what he hears about the war plan than he was several months ago, when there was talk of an assault built around air power and a few thousand Special Operations troops.

He expresses even more concern about the task the U.S. military might face after a victory. "What is postwar Iraq going to look like, with the Kurds and the Sunnis and the Shiites? That's a huge question, to my mind. It really should be part of the overall campaign plan."

(Rumsfeld said last week that post-Saddam planning "is a tough question and we're spending a lot of time on it, let me assure you." But the Pentagon hasn't disclosed how long it expects to have to occupy Iraq, or how many troops might be required to do that.)

The administration may be discussing the issue behind closed doors, Schwarzkopf says, but he thinks it hasn't sufficiently explained its thinking to the world, especially its assessment of the time, people and money needed. "I would hope that we have in place the adequate resources to become an army of occupation," he warns, "because you're going to walk into chaos."

The Result of a Bad Ending?

Just as the Gulf War looks less conclusive in retrospect, so has Schwarzkopf's reputation diminished since the glory days just after the war, when, Rick Atkinson wrote in "Crusade," Schwarzkopf "seemed ubiquitous, appearing at the Kentucky Derby, at the Indianapolis 500, on Capitol Hill, in parades, on bubblegum cards."

Twelve years and two American presidents later, Saddam Hussein is still in power, and the U.S. military is once again mustering to strike Iraq.

Some strategic thinkers, both inside the military and in academia, see Schwarzkopf's past actions as part of the problem. These experts argue that if the 1991 war had been terminated more thoughtfully, the U.S. military wouldn't have to go back again to finish the job.

"Everyone was so busy celebrating the end of the Vietnam syndrome that we forgot how winners win a war," says one Gulf War veteran who asked that his name not be used because he hopes to work in the administration.

Schwarzkopf in particular draws fire for approving a cease-fire that permitted the Iraqi military to fly helicopters after the war. Soon afterward, Iraqi helicopter gunships were used to put down revolts against Hussein in the Shiite south and the Kurdish north of Iraq. Only later were "no-fly zones" established to help protect those minority populations.

"It's quite clear that however brilliant operationally and technologically, the Gulf War cannot be viewed strategically as a complete success," says Michael Vickers, a former Special Forces officer who is now an analyst for the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a defense think tank.

Added one Pentagon expert on Iraq, "With benefit of hindsight, the victory was incomplete, and the luster of the entire operation has faded."

When Army colonels study the Gulf War at the Army War College nowadays, notes one professor there, "a big part of the class is discussing war termination."

For all that, few experts contend that Schwarzkopf is really the one to blame for the way the Gulf War ended. "Insofar as Gulf War 1 didn't finish the job, blame is more likely and appropriately laid on Bush 41 and, to a somewhat lesser extent, on Colin Powell," says John Allen Williams, a political scientist who specializes in military affairs at Loyola University Chicago.

Schwarzkopf himself doesn't entirely disagree with the view that the war was ended badly. "You can't help but sit here today and, with 20/20 hindsight, go back and say, 'Look, had we done something different, we probably wouldn't be facing what we are facing today.' "

But, he continues, Washington never instructed him to invade Iraq or oust Saddam Hussein. "My mission, plain and simple, was kick Iraq out of Kuwait. Period. There were never any other orders." Given the information available back then, the decision to stop the war with Saddam Hussein still in power was, he says, "probably was the only decision that could have been made at that time."

'Tell It Like It Is'

Schwarzkopf was never as lionized in military circles as he was by the general public. Like a rock star, he shuns commercial air travel mainly because he can barely walk through an airport without being besieged by autograph seekers and well-wishers. But his reputation inside the Army has "always been a bit different from the outside view," notes retired Army Col. Richard H. Sinnreich, who frequently participates in war games and other military training sessions.

Sinnreich doesn't think that many in the armed forces blame Schwarzkopf for the inconclusive ending of the Gulf War. "I know of no Army officer, active or retired, who holds such a view," he says. "The decision to suspend offensive operations clearly was a political decision that I suspect the relevant principals now profoundly regret, even if they're loath to admit it."

But what did sour some in the Army on Schwarzkopf, says Sinnreich, was his "rather ungracious treatment of his Gulf War subordinates."

Schwarzkopf raised eyebrows across the Army when, in his Gulf War memoir, he denounced one of his generals, Frederick Franks, for allegedly moving his 7th Corps in a "plodding and overly cautious" manner during the attack on the Iraqi military. He elaborated on that criticism in subsequent rounds of interviews. This public disparagement of a former subordinate rankled some in the Army, which even more than the other services likes to keep its internal disputes private.

"I think his attack on Franks was wrong," says Army Maj. Donald Vandergriff, in a typical comment.

"It wasn't meant to be an attack on Fred Franks," Schwarzkopf responds in the interview. Rather, he says, he was trying to provide an honest assessment, in the tradition of the Army's practice of conducting brutally accurate "after-action reviews." "No matter how painful it is, [when] you do your after-action review, tell it like it is."

The other behavior that bothered some was Schwarzkopf's virtual absence from the Army after the Gulf War. Many retired generals make almost a full-time job of working with the Army -- giving speeches at West Point and at the Army War College in Carlisle, Pa., visiting bases to mentor up-and-coming officers, sitting on Pentagon advisory boards, writing commentaries in military journals.

"The fact that Schwarzkopf . . . did not make himself available to speak to the many, many Army audiences anxious to listen to him won him no friends in the Army," notes retired Army Brig. Gen. John Mountcastle.

Adds Earl H. Tilford Jr., a former director of research at the War College's Strategic Studies Institute: "You never saw him at Carlisle, never."

Likewise, a professor at West Point recalls repeatedly being brushed off by Schwarzkopf's office.

Schwarzkopf says he avoided those circles for good reason. After the Gulf War, he says, he decided to take a low profile within the Army because he didn't want to step on the toes of the service's post-Gulf War leaders. There were sensitivities about overshadowing those generals, he says, especially after word leaked that he had been considered for the post of Army chief of staff but had declined the position.

Seeing that "open wound," he says, "I purposely distanced myself for a reasonable time."

The Army War College's location in rural Pennsylvania makes it difficult to reach from his home in the Tampa area, he says. And he notes that he has done much other work behind the scenes on behalf of the Army, including meeting with presidential candidate Bush to lobby him on military readiness issues.

He also has been busy with nonmilitary charities. After a bout with prostate cancer in 1994, he threw himself into helping cancer research; no fewer than 10 groups that fight cancer or conduct other medical research have given him awards in recent years.

No More Heroes?

Perhaps the real reason that Schwarzkopf's reputation has shrunk has more to do with America and less to do with Schwarzkopf's actions. American wars used to produce heroes such as Washington, Grant and Eisenhower, whose names were known by all schoolchildren, notes Boston University political scientist Andrew Bacevich.

But in recent decades, Bacevich says, "military fame has lost its durability." Sen. John McCain may appear to be an exception, he says, but he is someone noted less for what he did in the military than for what he endured as a prisoner of war.

More representative, Bacevich notes, may be Army Gen. Tommy R. Franks, the officer who would lead U.S. forces in any new war with Iraq. Franks "has not ignited widespread popular affection," says Bacevich, himself a retired Army colonel.

It may be that American society no longer has an appetite for heroes, military or otherwise, says Ward Carroll, a recently retired naval aviator and author of "Punk's War," a novel about patrolling the no-fly zone over southern Iraq. American society may not be making the kinds of sacrifices that make people look for heroes to celebrate. "You don't have rationing, you don't have gold stars in the window, and the other things that made [war heroes] a part of the fabric of American life" in the past, he says.

Even Schwarzkopf's own Gulf War memoir was titled "It Doesn't Take a Hero."

Or it just may be that America no longer puts anyone up on a pedestal. "Even our sports heroes aren't heroes anymore, in the way that Lou Gehrig and Mickey Mantle were," says Carroll. "The picture is a lot more blurred nowadays."

Washington Post researcher Rob Thomason contributed to this report.


© 2003 The Washington Post Company

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Message Number 131161

Re: Calling Dr. Ed View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 9/26/03 at 14:56



Dr. Ed,

From what I understand, that will happen. I am actually doing some testing around different levels of flexibility in offered services for a heathcare insurance company and I really, really like what I am seeing that will be offered and the direction they are taking. This is the right approach from both an Employer standpoint and a Employee standpoint. The Emplyoer wants to control costs and the employee wants more flexibility and control. Two birds with one stone.

I have to admit, in doing this research, I have learned quite a bit about the healthcare insurance industry. Actually, I am quite impressed with the insurance and provider side of healthcare in the US. It's not perfect, but it's not as bad as some people complain, especially when you understand the real issues of the complaints.

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Message Number 131158

Re: Calling Dr. Ed View Thread
Posted by Ed Davis, DPM on 9/26/03 at 14:43

D. Thomas:

I think that that is a positive trend but feel that if the employee has to pay more for a better plan, that amount should be tax deductible to the employee.
Ed

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Message Number 131156

Calling Dr. Ed View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 9/26/03 at 14:38



Dr. Ed,

What do you think about the move with healthcare companies giving full choice to it's members (i.e., not allowing the Benefit Adminstrators and Companies to dictate the offered plans)?

For example, they are now establishing plans where the employer establishes a default plan that the employer will pay for and then the employees can either subtract or add to that plan whatever they like. However, the employee will be personally respondsible for any additions.

Thoughts?

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Message Number 129798

Re: Lieberman View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 9/12/03 at 21:30



Dr. Ed,

Give it a little time, knowing Liberman he will change his mind and take the other side.

Result number: 181

Message Number 129594

Re: Leadership According to GWB View Thread
Posted by Rick R on 9/11/03 at 13:48

It's easy to think that this is a new or unique phenomenom. World history is full of power hungry egomaniacs(duh). I guess it comes with the territory. I think we still have the greatest system of checks and balances to offset that side of human nature, but obviously we are not immune. I have used the example of Thomas Jefferson in this regard. Planter, archeologist, inventor, musician, and of course statesman, President, even politician. Insert Franklin, Adams, Madison and so on. Somewhere down the line it seems we started to breed our leaders for the position rather than select them from the ranks of successful contributors to society. Kennedy, Bush, Gore, come to mind. Either way, there is and was an elite class from which most of our leaders have come from. At least our system has allowed for a few dirt poor individuals to rise to the top. Somehow I think the odds are a bit worse these days for a "Lincoln" sort to rise to power.

BTW, I didn't intend to imply that the list of founding fathers doesn't also include a few transgressors, smuggling, slave holding and sexual escapades that would do Clinton proud among a few.

Rick

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Message Number 129448

Re: Iraqi children View Thread
Posted by marie on 9/10/03 at 13:00

I thought this covered the problem in great detail I hope you like to read because it's a long report. I thought it intereting because it offered solutions and explained the situation very well.

marie


http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/sanction/iraq1/2002/paper.htm

Iraq Sanctions:
Humanitarian Implications and Options for the Future
Anglican Observer Office at the UN
Arab Commission for Human Rights
Center for Development of International Law
Center for Economic and Social Rights
Fellowship of Reconciliation • Global Policy Forum
New Internationalism Project, Institute for Policy Studies
Mennonite Central Committee
Middle East and Europe Office of Global Ministries of the United
Church of Christ and the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
Quaker UN Office-New York • United Church of Christ UN Office
World Economy, Ecology and Development Association (WEED)

in association with
Save the Children UK

August 6, 2002

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Contents

Executive Summary

Chapter 1 – Introduction

Chapter 2 – Comprehensive Economic Sanctions:
A Badly-Flawed Policy

Chapter 3 – Sanctions and the Civilian Population
3.1. Early Warnings
3.2 Steady Flow of Critical Reports


Chapter 4 – Causes of Human Suffering
4.1. Iran-Iraq War and Gulf War Campaign
4.2. Civil War, Regime Change, No-Fly Zones and Military Attacks
4.3. Responsibility of the Government of Iraq and the Politics of Vilification
4.4 Commercial Interests and Oil Politics


Chapter 5 – Oil-for-Food
5.1. Short Term Policy
5.2 Deductions and Delays
5.3 Blocked Contracts, Dual-Use and Holds
5.4 War Reparations Fund: Oil-for-Compensation
5.5 North vs. Center-South
5.6 Nutrition and Health
5.7 Deaths


Chapter 6 – “Smart” Sanctions, Price Disputes and Military Threats
6.1 Background
6.2 Smart Sanctions vs. Targeted Sanctions
6.3 Oil Pricing Dispute & Falling Humanitarian Revenue
6.4 US Military Threats and Appraisals of Iraq’s Rearmament


Chapter 7 – Security Council Obligations Under International Human Rights and Humanitarian Law
7.1. Legal Framework for the Security Council
7.2. Human Rights Law
7.3. Humanitarian Law


Chapter 8 – Conclusion & Policy Recommendations

Appendix I – Chronology

Appendix II – UK Select Committee Report

Footnotes



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Iraq Sanctions: Humanitarian Implications and Options for the Future
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

1. Introduction The United Nations Security Council has maintained compre-hensive economic sanctions on Iraq since August 6, 1990. The international community increasingly views the sanctions as illegitimate and punitive, because of well-documented humanitarian suffering in Iraq and widespread doubts about the sanctions’ effectiveness and their legal basis under international humanitarian and human rights law.

2. A Flawed Policy In the early 1990s, many policy makers saw comprehensive economic sanctions, imposed under Resolution 687, as an ethical and non-violent policy tool. Though Iraq sanctions produced some significant disarmament results, they failed to achieve all their policy goals and they have deeply harmed powerless and vulnerable Iraqi citizens. The Security Council implicitly accepts such a negative assessment, since it no longer uses comprehensive economic sanctions in other security crises.

3. Warnings of Civilian Harm Civilian suffering in Iraq is not an unexpected collateral effect, but a predictable result of the sanctions policy. Security Council members have received warnings of the humanitarian emergency in Iraq and the damage done by sanctions since shortly after the Gulf War. Warnings have come from three Secretary Generals, many UN officials and agencies including UNICEF, WHO and WFP, and two Humanitarian Coordinators who have resigned in protest. A Select Committee of the UK House of Commons offered a very negative judgment as well.

4. Causes of Suffering Sanctions are not the sole cause of human suffering in Iraq. The government of Iraq bears a heavy burden of responsibility due to the wars it has started, its lack of cooperation with the Security Council, its domestic repression, and its failure to use limited resources fairly. However, the UN Security Council shares responsibility for the humanitarian crisis. The United States and the United Kingdom, who use their veto power to prolong the sanctions, bear special responsibility for the UN action. No-fly zones, periodic military attacks, and threats of regime-change block peaceful outcomes, as do vilification of Saddam Hussein, pro-sanctions propaganda, and other politicization of the crisis. Though real concerns about Iraq’s security threat undoubtedly are legitimate, commercial interests, especially control over Iraq’s oil resources, appear to be a driving force behind much of the policy making.

5. Oil-for-Food Sanctions advocates proposed Oil-for-Food under Resolution 986 as a temporary solution to the humanitarian crisis. Oil-for-Food materially improved conditions in Iraq in contrast to the early days of the sanctions. But Oil-for-Food failed to resolve the humanitarian crisis, much less provide a long-term solution for Iraq. Punitive deductions for war reparations weaken the program as do unacceptable delays in delivery (less than 60%f of all items ordered from oil sales since December 1996 have actually arrived in Iraq). Politically motivated blocks and “holds,” imposed almost entirely by the United States, have plagued the program as well. Consequently, there has been little repair and renewal of Iraq’s badly-deteriorated infrastructure, including water treatment, electricity, and public health. Oil-for-Food has failed to improve sufficiently the nutrition and health of Iraqi citizens, who continue to suffer from conditions drastically worse than the pre-sanctions period. Less than $200 per year per capita has arrived in Iraq under the program. Studies have amply documented a substantial rise in mortality of children, five years of age and under and credible estimates suggest that at least 400,000 of these young children have died due to the sanctions. Various reforms, including Resolution 1284 have proven ineffective in addressing these problems.

6. Smart Sanctions? The United States and the United Kingdom recently proposed “smart sanctions” as an answer to critics. This reform, embodied in Security Council Resolution 1409, offers small improvements, but it has little in common with the “targeted sanctions” that experts have proposed in recent years. Targeted sanctions would directly impact Iraq’s leaders, by freezing their assets and preventing their international travel, without damage to ordinary Iraqis. Resolution 1409 is grossly inadequate as a solution to the Iraq crisis. The enormous Goods Review List of items with possible military use suggests further blockage of goods and delays, as well as disappointingly little substantial advance. Meanwhile, a dispute over pricing methods has greatly reduced Iraq’s oil sales, drastically depleting the funds of the humanitarian program, while the United States threatens to attack Iraq and impose a change of regime.

7. International Law The Security Council has clear obligations under international human rights and humanitarian law, which provide means to assess its sanctions record. A number of policy papers by UN agencies and bodies, as well as studies by legal scholars, have determined that the Council is in serious violation of its responsibilities in the case of Iraq. The Council has committed both procedural and substantive violations, by failing to conduct regular assessments of the humanitarian impact of the sanctions and by directly violating a number of important rights including the rights of children to protection and the right to life itself.

8. Conclusion & Policy Recommendations A solution to the crisis in Iraq must be based on a comprehensive agreement between the United Nations and the Government of Iraq in which many important and interrelated issues would be addressed. The United Nations must begin with five steps:

Comprehensive economic sanctions must be lifted,
The UN “escrow account” must be eliminated,
Free trade (excepting military goods) must be re-established,
Foreign investments in Iraq must be permitted, and
Foreign assets of Iraq must be unfrozen so as to normalize its external economic relations
Such change will not be free of risk. The government of Iraq cannot be counted on to make benign and peaceful policy choices, or to promote automatically the well-being of its people. In this context

Robust weapons monitoring must be reintroduced, to insure disarmament and eliminate production programs for mass destruction weapons,
Disarmament in Iraq must be complemented by regional approaches to disarmament, especially elimination of mass destruction weapons and weapons programs in other regional states
The Government of Iraq must give firm assurances to the international community, as a part of reciprocal undertakings, that

It will renounce all plans to buy, build or use weapons of mass destruction and related delivery systems
It will cooperate fully with ongoing UN arms inspection arrangements
It will establish friendly and cooperative relations with neighboring countries
It will take all necessary steps to address the humanitarian emergency as soon as funds become available to do so
It will honor minority rights, including offering special status to the Kurdish areas, and it will take steps to honor its human rights obligations.
If the government of Iraq fails at any time to provide adequate means for inspection and arms control, then:

Narrowly-targeted sanctions, including financial and travel penalties, should be directed at Iraq’s leaders,
Time limits must be part of such a new sanctions regime,
Clear criteria for lifting and modification must also be part of the new sanctions regime,
Regular humanitarian assessments must also be part of the new sanctions as well, so that the Council will be aware of any possible impact on the broader Iraqi population.
If Iraq is to return to normalcy, and if it is to be persuaded to agree to international accords, it must be freed from constant military pressure, threats and intimidation. The Security Council’s decisions, not unilateral action by one or two powerful states, must prevail. In this framework

“No-Fly zones” must be eliminated and aerial threats and attacks halted,

Unilateral military attacks must be ruled out as completely unacceptable and illegal, and
Other efforts directed towards “regime change,” including force build-ups, military aid to opposition forces, and covert destabilization and assassination campaigns must cease.
Further elements in the design for post-sanctions Iraq are also required, in order to address immediate humanitarian concerns, long-term development needs and safeguards for minorities. In such a framework:

Emergency relief, to bring a speedy end to the human suffering, must be put in place with the help of the international community,
Large-scale physical reconstruction, to build a new infrastructure for Iraq, must be set in motion, including foreign investments, and
Safeguards for minorities such as the Kurds must be introduced, including federative structures and possibly a UN presence to monitor and promote human rights in the post-sanctions era.


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Chapter 1 - Introduction
The United Nations Security Council has maintained comprehensive economic sanctions on Iraq since August 6, 1990. (1) The international community increasingly views the sanctions as illegitimate and punitive, because of well-documented humanitarian suffering in Iraq and widespread doubts about the sanctions’ effectiveness and their legal basis under international humanitarian and human rights law. This paper examines key legal and humanitarian issues of the current sanctions arrangements and it argues for urgent, fundamental changes.

When first imposed, four days after Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, under Resolution 661, the comprehensive sanctions appeared legitimate, as a short-term means to press Iraq to withdraw. When redefined on April 3, 1991, under Resolution 687, after the US-led military coalition had forced Iraq’s withdrawal, the sanctions likewise commanded broad support, as a means to compel Iraq’s compliance with Security Council resolutions and in particular to end Iraqi possession of weapons of mass destruction. (2) Iraq eventually met (however reluctantly) many of the UN requirements and the United Nations supervised substantial Iraqi disarmament, including extensive dismantlement of Iraq’s mass-destruction weapons, weapons programs and delivery systems. (3)

Questions still remain about the extent of Iraq’s compliance, but many experts believe that Iraq has been substantially disarmed and has little capacity left in the four banned weapons types. (4) Residual concerns and conjectures must be weighed against the sanctions’ present ineffectiveness, their great harm to innocent civilians, the clear option of targeted sanctions, and the discredit that the status quo brings to the United Nations, the Security Council and international law more generally. Though the overwhelming opinion of the international community favors change, comprehensive economic sanctions remain firmly in place and criteria for their lifting remain imprecise, fluid and subjective. (5)

A large majority of Security Council members now oppose the comprehensive sanctions or have serious reservations about them, but they cannot lift them, because vetoes of two Permanent Members, the United States and the United Kingdom, block action for comprehensive reform. Indeed, most discussions of Iraq sanctions have taken place in secret, among the Council’s five Permanent Members, side-stepping the ten Elected Members and keeping the international community in the dark. Ambassador Peter van Walsum of the Netherlands, Chairman of the Iraq Sanctions Committee in 1999-2000, spoke in an open meeting of the Council in November 1999 about the intense frustrations of elected Council members at this lack of information, transparency and accountability. (6)

Such secret diplomacy by the major powers shows disregard for the international community and for the lives and well-being of the people of Iraq. Recent adjustments by the Council in Resolution 1409 (May 14, 2002) fall far short of the needed fundamental change. Just two Council members negotiated in secret the Goods Review List, at the heart of the new resolution. Instead of such gestures, the international community should insist on the lifting of comprehensive economic sanctions. There must also be program to help re-build and restore the country’s civilian economy and to promote the democratic rights and human development of the Iraqi people.

All parties agree that the Iraqi people’s basic needs are unmet. Governments, UN agencies, the press, and international NGOs all acknowledge that the Iraqi population is living through a long humanitarian crisis. Those who defend the sanctions policy insist on blaming the government of Iraq and its leader, Saddam Hussein, for all the suffering, insisting that the humanitarian situation can only improve if the leader satisfies the demands of the US and the UK or, better still, relinquishes power. Such an approach holds Iraq’s humanitarian suffering hostage to international power politics, the hidden play of commercial interests, and the goal of “regime change.”

Sanctions do not cause all distress in Iraq. The government of Iraq must bear a large share of responsibility, because of its failure to comply with Council requirements and because of its failure to use all resources at its disposal to meet the humanitarian crisis. But as long as the United Nations maintains control over economic life in Iraq, the Security Council bears a joint responsibility with the Iraq government for the health and wellbeing of the population. The Council has the means to alleviate the economic crisis, but it has failed to discharge its responsibility to act in accord with universal human rights and humanitarian standards, as we shall see in more detail below.

The sanctions put economic pressure on the population and supposedly use civilian suffering as a tool in arms control negotiations with Iraq’s government. In theory, the deprived and angry populace will press their rulers to change policy. If policy does not change, the people are expected to reject the rulers and rise against them. This has proved to be a simplistic and false model. Politics in Iraq have not worked this way. To the contrary, the sanctions appear to have strengthened the government, by increasing its economic role and its symbolic appeal.

The suffering of Iraq’s civilian population must command primary attention and legal priority. The Security Council should not continue to pursue arms control goals with a mechanism that exacts such a high human cost. Rather, the Council should move towards alternatives that the overwhelming majority of international opinion has long favored:

lift comprehensive economic sanctions

abolish the UN “escrow” account

establish free trade in non-military goods

restore foreign investments

unfreeze Iraq’s foreign assets

establish robust UN weapons monitoring

require agreement by Iraq for disarmament, cooperation with arms inspection and friendly relations with its neighbors, in a framework of regional disarmament

impose, if needed, sanctions narrowly targeted at Iraqi government leaders, subject to time limits, clear criteria for lifting and regular humanitarian assessments

eliminate “no fly” zones, "regime change" programs and military threats directed at Iraq

provide international humanitarian assistance to help Iraq overcome its humanitarian crisis as swiftly as possible

organize programs to promote large-scale reconstruction of Iraq

establish safeguards for Iraq’s minorities, including special arrangements for the Kurdish areas in the North and possibly a UN presence to monitor and promote human rights
In the chapters that follow, this report will consider the flaws in comprehensive economic sanctions, the question of responsibility and the shortcomings of the oil-for-food program. The report will then consider the current “smart sanctions” in contrast to longstanding proposals for “targeted sanctions” aiming at political leaders. Finally, the report will look at the Security Council’s responsibilities under international humanitarian and human rights law and it will conclude with a discussion of recommended alternatives.

Chapter 2 - Comprehensive Economic Sanctions: A Badly-Flawed Policy
When the Security Council first imposed sanctions on Iraq in 1990, many diplomats, scholars and citizens believed that comprehensive economic sanctions were innovative, benign and non-violent. Some believed that sanctions offered an ethical foreign policy tool to combat threats to peace and security without causing unintended suffering. (7)

It is now clear that comprehensive economic sanctions in Iraq have hurt large numbers of innocent civilians not only by limiting the availability of food and medicines, but also by disrupting the whole economy, impoverishing Iraqi citizens and depriving them of essential income, and reducing the national capacity of water treatment, electrical systems and other infrastructure critical for health and life. People in Iraq have died in large numbers. The extent of death, suffering and hardship may have been greater than during the armed hostilities, especially for civilians, as we shall see in more detail below. (8) Comprehensive sanctions in Iraq, then, are not benign, non-violent or ethical.

The 1977 Protocols to the Geneva Conventions on the laws of war include a prohibition of economic sieges against civilians as a method of warfare. Ironically, legal consensus does not yet define economic sanctions as subject to these laws, which apply in warfare and which legally require belligerents to target military rather than civilian objectives. Sanctions operate in a hazy legal status between war and peace. (9) Unlike the dramatic, visible toll of military action, sanctions take their effect gradually, indirectly and with low visibility.

UN Secretary General Boutros Boutros-Ghali recognised the growing doubt about the legal and moral status of comprehensive sanctions when he wrote in 1995 that they

raise the ethical question of whether suffering inflicted on vulnerable groups in the target country is a legitimate means of exerting pressure on political leaders whose behaviour is unlikely to be affected by the plight of their subjects (10)
The Security Council has implicitly accepted this judgement. In recent years, it has always imposed either narrowly-targeted sanctions that seek to pressure rulers and elites directly, or embargos of arms sales to belligerents, or embargos of strategic resources fueling conflicts like diamonds. The Council has not imposed comprehensive economic sanctions since 1994 and no one expects that it will adopt this policy again. (11)
Iraq sanctions do not effectively target or affect political or military elites. Rather, they hit the weakest and most vulnerable members of Iraqi society, those with the least ability to influence decisions and who are least able to compete for scarce resources. The primary victims of the sanctions – children, the elderly, the sick, the poor -- are also those least responsible for government policy and least able to change policy. Even so, advocates in Washington have insisted that sanctions on Iraq are necessary and justified, as a means to pressure an evil dictator and keep him “in a box.” Such imperatives have found declining acceptance in the rest of the world, where people increasingly see comprehensive economic sanctions as a blunt and cruel weapon. As UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan stated in 2000:

just as we recognize the importance of sanctions as a way of compelling compliance with the will of the international community, we also recognize that sanctions remain a blunt instrument, which hurt large numbers of people who are not their primary targets. (12)
The sanctions on Iraq have left the country impoverished, isolated and socially disrupted, they resulted in widespread illness and death of innocent civilians, and they have tightened the grip of a repressive political regime.

Chapter 3 - Sanctions and the Civilian Population
3.1. Early Warnings

Iraq sanctions have not caused suffering as an unexpected collateral effect or a lesser evil that passed unnoticed. The suffering was not only foreseeable (and foreseen) in advance, but dozens of studies have documented it in great detail for more than a decade.

From the early days of the sanctions, well-informed UN officials and envoys warned about dire humanitarian consequences. In March 1991, Under Secretary General Martti Ahtisaari reported that, directly after the massive bombing of the Gulf War, the situation was especially troubling:

most means of modern life support have been destroyed or rendered tenuous. Iraq has, for some time to come, been relegated to a pre-industrial age, but with all the disabilities of post-industrial dependency on an intensive use of energy and technology. (13)
Ahtisaari pointed out that Iraq needed more than just emergency relief of food and medicine. The power grid and the communications system had been badly damaged, he said, and needed repair.
The far-reaching implications of this energy and communications vacuum as regards urgent humanitarian support are of crucial significance for the nature and effectiveness of the international response. (14)
In July of the same year, the Secretary General's Executive Delegate, Sadruddin Aga Khan, submitted a comprehensive report based on a country-wide assessment of conditions. The Executive Delegate’s report spoke of immediate needs for reconstruction as well as humanitarian assistance, setting the cost of restoring pre-war conditions at $22 billion. Calculating only the most urgently-needed initial reconstruction costs, he estimated that Iraq would require $6.8 billion in the first year, for which substantial quantities of Iraqi oil would have to be sold. (15) Many well-known international experts and eminent persons, as well as more than a dozen agencies, were involved in producing the report, which said:
Our aim has been to be sober, measured and accurate. We are neither crying wolf nor playing politics. But it is evident that for large numbers of the people of Iraq, every passing month brings them closer to the brink of calamity. As usual, it is the poor, the children, the widowed and the elderly, the most vulnerable amongst the population, who are the first to suffer. (16)
The report concluded, issuing a clear call:
It remains a cardinal humanitarian principle that innocent civilians – and above all the most vulnerable – should not be held hostage to events beyond their control. Those already afflicted by war's devastation cannot continue to pay the price of a bitter peace. It is a peace that will also prove to be tenuous if unmet needs breed growing desperation. (17)
Instead of making such humanitarian provision to avert the impending catastrophe, the Security Council passed Resolutions 706 and 712 (August 15 and September 19, 1991) which put a low cap on Iraq’s allowed oil sales and deducted about a third of the oil revenues to pay for war reparations, weapons inspectors and UN administrative expenses. The oil sales ceiling would have yielded (after deductions) about $1.1 billion every six months for Iraq’s humanitarian needs, (18) a small fraction of Sadruddin Aga Khan’s estimate for essential spending. The stage was set for rejection by Baghdad and years of fruitless manoeuvring. Neither side gave priority to the growing humanitarian crisis.
Nearly five years later, on May 20, 1996, the Council and the government of Iraq finally agreed to an Oil-for-Food program, under Resolution 986. The agreement allowed for the sale of oil to pay for humanitarian and other vital imports. (19) This step, while significant in some respects, was to prove woefully inadequate as a solution to the humanitarian emergency. (20)

3.2 A Steady Flow of Critical Reports

Throughout the 1990s, regular surveys by the Food and Agriculture Organisation/World Food Programme documented the lack of food in Iraq and its effect on vulnerable groups. In 1996 the World Health Organisation reported on health, morbidity and mortality data for 1989-1994 and commented:

Comparing levels of the infant mortality rate (IMR) and the mortality of children under 5 years old during the pre war period (1988-1989) with that during the period of the sanctions (since 1990), it is clear that the IMR has doubled and the mortality rate for children under 5 years old has increased six times. (21)
Various agencies, including UNICEF, presented reports to the Council, cataloguing the suffering, but the US and the UK used their diplomatic weight and threatened use of the veto to block remedial action beyond the Oil-for-Food program. (22) These two countries also used their considerable influence with the news media to downplay the seriousness of the humanitarian situation in Iraq, accusing humanitarian agencies of bad science or even complicity with the Iraqi government. (23) The two partners portrayed themselves as well-meaning, innocent victims of Saddam’s finely-tuned propaganda machine.
Legal and interpretive reports also appeared that raised the broader issue of sanctions policy within international law and policy. In 1996, the Graca Michel report to the General Assembly on the Impact of Armed Conflict on Children concluded that sanctions’

humanitarian exemptions tend to be ambiguous and are interpreted arbitrarily and inconsistently.... Delays, confusion and the denial of requests to import essential humanitarian goods cause resource shortages .... [Their effects] inevitably fall most heavily on the poor. (24)
The following year, the UN Committee on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, headed by the distinguished Australian jurist Philip Alston, issued a report expressing concern that the Security Council, in establishing and maintaining sanctions, did not adequately take into account its responsibilities under economic, social and cultural rights law. The report stated that sanctions
often cause significant disruption in the distribution of food, pharmaceuticals and sanitation supplies, jeopardize the quality of food and the availability of clean drinking water, severely interfere with the functioning of basic health and education systems, and undermine the right to work. (25)
As such, the report continued, sanctions “have a major additional impact on the enjoyment of economic, social and cultural rights.” (26)
The Council’s Oil-for-Food program eased the worst of the food shortages as supplies began to arrive in mid-1997, but reports from the field suggested that the situation remained very serious. (27)

Responding to the many troubling reports and to the waning political support for sanctions, the chairman of the Security Council’s Iraq Sanctions Committee, Ambassador António Monteiro of Portugal, convened a series of meetings with Council colleagues during 1998. He brought together the chairmen of the Council’s sanctions committees, all elected members, to discuss the Council’s humanitarian responsibilities and the steps that it should take to improve sanctions more generally. On October 30, the group circulated a paper to the whole Council, setting forth its concerns with a series of reform proposals. The reformers noted that sanctions

often produce undesired side effects for the civilian population, including children. The decisions of the Security Council to impose sanctions imply the Council's obligation to ensure that proper implementation of sanctions does not result in violations of human rights and international humanitarian law, and its responsibility to do all within its power for the respect of the basic economic, social and cultural rights, and other human rights of the affected population. (28)
The paper insisted on the Council’s responsibility to monitor the impact of its sanctions, the need for clear criteria for lifting of sanctions, and the need to move towards “targeted” sanctions that would impact on top leaders, not the general population of the offending state.
Towards the end of 1998, the legitimacy of the sanctions/disarmament regime was enormously compromised by evidence that the United States had used the UN weapons inspection teams of UNSCOM to carry out espionage and covert action. (29) UNSCOM issued an alarmist report about the state of Iraq’s disarmament, said to have been strongly influenced by US pressure. In December, the US and the UK threatened to attack Iraq, to force compliance with the inspections. With military action imminent, the Chairman of UNSCOM, Richard Butler, ordered the weapons inspectors withdrawn. US-UK aerial attacks, beginning on December 16, continued for four days. (30) Discredited UNSCOM was never to return.

Though Council membership changed at the turn of the year, momentum for sanctions reform continued. The reformers succeeded in getting a watered-down version of the October proposals embodied in a statement by the President of the Council on January 29, 1999, giving some of the ideas official status. (31) Also in the October spirit, elected members persuaded the Council to establish three assessment “panels” on Iraq under the chairmanship of Ambassador Celso Amorim of Brazil. One panel considered arms control issues, a second looked at prisoners of war and other issues, while a third focused on the humanitarian situation. In its report of March 1999, the humanitarian panel set forth the alarming decline in living standards in Iraq, including health, food, infrastructure and education

In marked contrast to the prevailing situation prior to the events of 1990-91, the infant mortality rates in Iraq today are among the highest in the world, low infant birth weight affects at least 23% of all births, chronic malnutrition affects every fourth child under five years of age, only 41% of the population has regular access to clean water, 83% of all schools need substantial repairs. (32)
The report concluded with an implicit call for re-development and normalization of the Iraqi economy:
In presenting the above recommendations to the Security Council, the panel reiterates its understanding that the humanitarian situation in Iraq will continue to be a dire one in the absence of a sustained revival of the Iraqi economy, which in turn cannot be achieved solely through remedial humanitarian efforts. (33)
The report provides a measure of how far the sanctions had lost support within the Council’s membership.
In Baghdad, UN Humanitarian Coordinator, Hans von Sponeck, was raising alarms. His predecessor, Dennis Halliday, had resigned in the summer of 1999, in protest against the sanctions. Now von Sponeck himself was shocked by what he saw and was beginning to speak out strongly to visiting UN officials and others. A visiting delegation reported on this conversation:

The oil for food program provides him with $177 per person per year – 50 cents a day – for all of the needs of each Iraqi citizen. He said, “Now I ask you, $180 per year? That’s not a per capita income figure. This is a figure out of which everything has to be financed, from electrical service to water and sewage, to food, to health – the lot . . . that is obviously a totally, totally inadequate figure. (34)
Meanwhile, UNICEF’s 1999 survey of child mortality in Iraq provided some chilling facts. In a summary of the study, prepared for the distinguished British medical journal Lancet, researchers Mohamed Ali and Iqbal Shah presented the following findings:
Infant mortality rose from 47 per 1000 live births during 1984–89 to 108 per 1000 in 1994–99, and under-5 mortality rose from 56 to 131 per 1000 live births. (35)
On June 21, the UN Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights published a working paper by Marc Bossuyt, its expert representative from Belgium, which called sanctions on Iraq “unequivocally illegal” and said they had caused a humanitarian disaster “comparable to the worst catastrophes of the past decades.” (36) Later, the outraged US ambassador, charged that the report was “incorrect, biased and inflammatory.” (37)
In addition to death, disease and general impoverishment, some reports showed that the sustained sanctions in Iraq were having numerous other negative effects. Emigration was sapping away many of the best and brightest. Workers’ skills were disappearing after years of mass unemployment. Women had lost jobs disproportionately in the shrunken workforce. Stress and psychiatric illnesses had ravaged families. Social cohesion had steadily unravelled. (38) The Security Council became increasingly aware of these broader issues. Its humanitarian panel spoke of such effects in 1999, noting that observers often report alarming signs such as:

Increase in juvenile delinquency, begging and prostitution, anxiety about the future and lack of motivation, a rising sense of isolation bred by absence of contact with the outside world, the development of a parallel economy replete with profiteering and criminality, cultural and scientific impoverishment, disruption of family life. WHO points out that the number of mental health patients attending health facilities rose by 157% from 1990 to 1998. (39)
Many Council members hoped that the panel reports would lead to remedial action and that the Council would eventually lift the comprehensive sanctions, moving towards sanctions targeted at Saddam Hussein and his inner circle. Many also hoped for regular monitoring of sanctions’ humanitarian impact, as agreed in the January presidential statement. Negotiations began towards a comprehensive new resolution, but Washington held firm against substantive change and the UK, unable to persuade its partner to adopt a more reform-oriented policy, chose to maintain a status quo posture as well.
Because of deep differences, the Council did not adopt a new resolution until the end of 1999. A divided Council finally adopted Resolution 1284 on December 17 with abstentions by three Permanent Members: Russia, China and France. It fell far below the earlier hopes of sanction reformers such as Argentina, Brazil, Canada, and Slovenia, though it did incorporate a few of the moderate panel suggestions. It lifted the cap on oil sales completely (40) and it marginally relaxed the system of goods review. It also set forth rules for an improved system of weapons inspection. But it proposed neither targeting, nor humanitarian monitoring procedures, the two most important reform proposals. Further, it left more vague than ever the conditions under which the Council would consider lifting or “suspending” the sanctions. (41)

Even in the UK parliament, scepticism about Iraq sanctions abounded. On January 27, 2000, after ten months of hearings, the House of Commons Select Committee on International Development issued a report that proved a sharp rebuke to the government’s sanctions policies. (42) The Executive Summary stated that:

There is a clear consensus that the humanitarian and developmental situation in Iraq has deteriorated seriously since the imposition of comprehensive economic sanctions whilst, at the same time, sanctions have clearly failed to hurt those responsible for past violations of international law as Saddam Hussein and his ruling elite continue to enjoy a privileged existence. (43)
In February, UN Humanitarian Coordinator von Sponeck announced his resignation and on 29 March, as he prepared to leave Baghdad, he explained that “I can no longer be associated with a program that prolongs suffering of the people and which has no chance to meet even basic needs of the civilian population.” (44) Later, he would declare that “lawlessness of one kind does not justify lawlessness of another kind,” and ask “how long must the civilian population be exposed to such punishment for something that they’ve never done?” (45) A few weeks later, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan expressed doubts of his own. At a meeting organized by the International Peace Academy and in the presence of most Council ambassadors he concluded that:
The record of the “Sanctions Decade” has raised serious doubts not only about the effectiveness of sanctions, but also about their scope and severity when innocent civilians often become victims not only of their own government, but of the actions of the international community as well.
When robust and comprehensive economic sanctions are directed against authoritarian regimes, a different problem is encountered. Then, tragically, it is usually the people who suffer, not the political elites whose behaviour triggered the sanctions in the first place.

...sanctions remain a blunt instrument, which hurt large numbers of people who are not their primary targets. (46)

On the same day, Canadian Foreign Minister Lloyd Axworthy spoke to the Council during a special session on sanctions and insisted that “sanctions must reflect the will of the international community – not just the interests of its more powerful members.” (47) Three months later, French Foreign Minister Hubert Védrine stated that his country considered Iraq sanctions “cruel, ineffective and dangerous.” (48)
In spite of these many warnings, pressures, legal opinions and expressions of humanitarian concern, the US-UK gave few concessions to the critics, insisting always on Iraqi perfidy. According to insiders, the US stepped up pressure on Council members for silence and conformity. The most reform-oriented ambassadors, including Amorim himself, were recalled by their governments or assigned to other postings. Activist junior diplomats likewise moved on. The reform vision faded, though deep opposition continued within the Council’s chambers.


Chapter 4 - Causes of Human Suffering
4.1. Iran-Iraq War and the Gulf War

Two wars, both started by Saddam Hussein, laid a basis for the harsh impact of comprehensive economic sanctions on Iraq. The Iran-Iraq War of 1980-88 greatly damaged Iraq and reduced it from prosperity to economic difficulty. The United States and the UK (as well as France and the Soviet Union) supported Iraq in that conflict, the longest conventional war of the twentieth century. The support included weapons sales, military advisors and intelligence sharing. The United States provided, among other things, economic assistance, political support, arms, satellite intelligence and the assistance of a US naval battle group. (49) Iran proved a resilient foe, however, and the war dragged out at great cost in life and material infrastructure.

In addition to great damage on the Iranian side, the Iran-Iraq War destroyed several Iraqi cities and much of Iraq’s oil production and refinery system. It caused several hundred thousand Iraqi casualties. It also caused environmental damage, stripped the government of cash, halted infrastructure building and government welfare programs, and caused large human displacement. (50) Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship and internal repression grew still more oppressive during wartime conditions, including a harsh campaign against the Kurds in the North, though both the United States and the UK governments deflected attention from the widespread human rights violations and the regular use of chemical weapons by their ally. (51)

In the Gulf crisis and War of 1990-91, Saddam Hussein again attacked a neighboring country – the oil rich emirate of Kuwait – and sought to annex it. This time, the United States and the UK opposed Hussein, along with many other countries. US President George Bush Sr. declared: “Our jobs, our way of life, our own freedom ... would all suffer if control of the world’s great oil reserves fell into the hands of Saddam Hussein.” (52) A series of United Nations Security Council resolutions called on Iraq to withdraw, imposed sanctions and authorized the use of force by member states. The United States took the lead in a coalition that eventually launched an air war against Iraq, followed by a brief ground campaign that drove Iraq from Kuwait and decisively defeated Iraqi forces. (53)

This second war resulted in many Iraqi casualties as well as grave damage to Iraq’s infrastructure with losses estimated at $170 billion. (54) Much of the damage was due to one of history’s heaviest aerial bombardments, a 43-day long campaign conducted largely by units of the US air force. (55) US President George Bush Sr. claimed publicly that

we do not seek the destruction of Iraq, nor do we seek to punish the Iraqi people for the decisions and policies of their leaders, (56)
yet US war planners created conditions for civilian suffering in the course of the intense bombing campaign. As a Washington Post article reported a few months afterwards:
Planners now say their intent was to destroy or damage valuable facilities that Baghdad could not repair without foreign assistance. The worst civilian suffering, senior officers say, has resulted not from bombs that went astray but from precision-guided weapons that hit exactly where they were aimed – at electrical plants, oil refineries and transportation networks... ‘What we were doing with the attacks on infrastructure was to accelerate the effect of the sanctions’… If there are political objectives that the U.N. coalition has, it can say, 'Saddam, when you agree to do these things, we will allow people to come in and fix your electricity.' It gives us long-term leverage’… Said another Air Force planner: ‘We're not going to tolerate Saddam Hussein or his regime. Fix that, and we'll fix your electricity.” (57)
United States war planners did not intend to march on Baghdad and install a new government. Instead, the coalition ground forces halted their offensive in southern Iraq and signed a cease-fire with Baghdad. US policy planners expected that the war had weakened Iraq militarily and economically, and that post war unrest and economic sanctions would succeed in toppling the Saddam regime soon afterwards.
4.2 Civil War, Regime-Change, No-Fly Zones and Military Attacks

After the Gulf War, United States radio broadcasts urged Iraqis to rise up against the Hussein regime. In March, the Shi’a populations in the South and the Kurds in the North staged an insurrection and a brief civil war followed. The uprising failed to topple the government, however, and Baghdad soon brutally repressed it in the South, while US unilateral military intervention under Operation Provide Comfort in the North eventually provided some protection for the Kurdish populations. (58) The United States continued to insist on “regime change” to sweep the dictator from power.

The Security Council never agreed, however, to “regime change” as a purpose of its sanctions against Iraq. Resolution 687 referred to disarmament and other issues, but it said nothing about a new government. Nevertheless, the United States openly pursued this other goal. On February 15, 1991, at the end of the Gulf War, President Bush had made the point quite bluntly: “(T)here’s another way for the bloodshed to stop, and that is for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside and then comply with the United Nations’ resolution." (59) To a greater or lesser extent, regime change has continued to be a goal of US policy ever since.

In April 1991, the US, the UK and France established a “no-fly zone” in the North, originally to protect coalition military operations in the area. This policy banned Iraqi aircraft from flying over the national territory above 36 degrees north latitude. To this the three allies added in August 1992 a “no-fly zone” in the South, excluding Iraqi overflight of territory below 32 degrees. The US and its partners claimed that Security Council Resolution 688 authorized these actions, though the resolution was not adopted (as would be required) under Chapter VII of the UN Charter and said nothing about military measures or Iraq’s aircraft or airspace. The protagonists said their no-fly enforcement overflights were undertaken to protect vulnerable populations of Shi’a in the South and Kurds in the North from further blows by Baghdad, but Turkey was not restrained from striking blows at Kurds in this zone or from repressing its own Kurdish population across the border. (60) Further, the no-fly zone did not even include several major Kurdish cities in the North. Nor did the southern no-fly offer any clear protection to populations there. France withdrew from northern “no-fly” enforcement at the end of 1996 and southern no-fly at the end of 1998. Thousands of overflights each year, mainly by US-UK military aircraft, enforced these zones on a daily basis.

In addition to no-fly, the powers launched military operations against Iraq, by aircraft and cruise missiles. France participated in the attack of January 13, 1993 involving 80 strike aircraft, but thereafter the French withdrew from this type of action. United States forces, operating from a variety of ground bases and naval ships, carried out most of these operations, sometimes with UK participation. The main events took place on January 17 (42 cruise missiles) and June 26 (23 cruise missiles), 1993, September 3-4, 1996 (Operation Desert Strike)(44 cruise missiles), and especially December 16-19, 1998 (Operation Desert Fox)(hundreds of strike aircraft and cruise missiles). (61) There were also a variety of military deployment operations intended to threaten Iraq, including US operations titled Phoenix Scorpion I, II, III and IV and phases of Operation Desert Thunder, together lasting from November 1997 to December 1998. (62)

Some of these attacks targeted sites in Baghdad or other populated areas and resulted in civilian casualties. Operation Desert Fox, in December 1998, an intense aerial attack, destroyed a Basra oil refinery and hit a number of targets in Baghdad and other cities, including civilian housing. (63) More US-UK air strikes followed Desert Fox as part of no-fly enforcement, under “enlarged rules of engagement” (64) and an enlarged no-fly zone (to the 33 degree parallel, near the southern suburbs of Baghdad). These more robust and provocative patrols led to hundreds of clashes with Iraqi forces, including attacks on radar and anti-aircraft missile sites, command and control centers, intelligence installations and more, including sites outside the no-fly areas. They resulted in regular civilian casualties. (65)

When the UN Humanitarian Coordinator, Hans von Sponeck, documented these strikes (as well as the destruction and death they caused, and the danger to UN staff), the US and the UK reacted with outrage and demanded his resignation. (66)

Such unilateral military attacks deepened confusion as to the economic sanctions policy and what steps the Iraqi government could be expected to take to cooperate with UN inspectors and to comply with requirements that might lead to the lifting of sanctions. The Russian ambassador at the UN, Sergey Lavrov, remarked in the Council that “it was not possible to ask the [Iraqis] to cooperate and, at the same time, bomb their territory.” (67)

4.3 Responsibility of the Government of Iraq and the Politics of Vilification

The government of Iraq under Saddam Hussein bears responsibility for the wars and the weapons programs that brought suffering to Iraq’s people and its neighbors. The government of Iraq has also been a notorious human rights abuser. The United States and the UK often point to these crimes as rationale and justification for the sanctions. But sanctions cannot legally, under the UN Charter or under any standard of international law, serve as punishment for past acts, heinous as they are. Nor, of course, should the punishment fall on the people of Iraq and not the responsible leaders themselves.

As the international community grew increasingly aware of the human costs of the sanctions, the US and UK worked tirelessly to shift responsibility away from themselves and onto Saddam Hussein. By charging Saddam with non-compliance, they sought to prove that the Iraqi leader was himself solely answerable and deserved full moral opprobrium. In fact, considerable compliance occurred up to 1998, in spite of the Iraq government’s obstruction and lack of full cooperation.

The US and the UK also accused the Iraqi leader of various kinds of malfeasance that deepened his people’s economic and social crisis. The accusations charged that Saddam built presidential palaces, a stadium and a lavish safari park, while his people were suffering, and that he built an artificial lake during a drought. (68) Many of the charges appear to be true and reflect the Iraqi government’s lax humanitarian priorities. However, these projects appear to have cost only a small portion of the country’s vast needs for humanitarian supplies and capital re-building. While outrageous, they fall far short of providing by themselves an explanation for Iraq’s humanitarian emergency. (69)

Other charges directly address the Oil-for-Food program. In 1998 and 1999, the Western press accused the Iraqi government of not ordering adequate baby foods, of failing to order pulses – a main ingredient in Iraqis’ diets — and even of exporting foods. (70) In many cases, these allegations have proved unfounded, as we shall see. (71) Where true, they confirm the government’s unacceptable priorities, but again do not explain more than a fraction of the humanitarian emergency.

UK Minister of Defence George Robertson accused Iraq’s government of preventing medical supplies in Iraqi warehouses from reaching the population. (72) This accusation was a serious misrepresentation, based on selective use of the UN Secretary General’s report issued in February 1999, where a number of reasons for holding stocks and slow delivery were clearly listed. (73) The same charge is repeated on the US State Department “Myths and Facts About Iraq” web site where it is said, falsely, that “Saddam has been criticised by the UN for intentionally hoarding medicines in warehouses.” In fact, the World Health Organization had urged the Iraqi government to increase its buffer stocks because of uneven and unpredictable supply chains, while computerization of records (likewise recommended by the UN) had temporarily slowed deliveries. Lack of transportation equipment, due to the sanctions, also slowed delivery of medicines at this time.

The US and the UK have also blamed Saddam Hussein not halting the sale on the black market of items such as medicine, food, and food rations that entered Iraq through the Oil-for-Food program. However, as the UN Humanitarian Coordinator Tun Myat has pointed out, desperately poor citizens sometimes sell a portion of their rations to raise cash for their household. (74) UN reports have repeatedly stated that Iraq has acceptably carried out the Oil-for-Food distribution plan (which must be previously approved by the Security Council).

The UN Office of the Iraq Programme has referred to the shortcomings of the government of Iraq in regular information provided to the Council, including Iraq’s failure to act on all approved contracts, its slow implementation of letters of credit and other financial transactions, and its other management failures. (75) The OIP has reported that the government of Iraq delayed issuance of visas to experts who were needed for electricity and other technical projects and that it has failed to cooperate fully with the UN programs. At the same time, OIP admits that serious delays are often due to UN procedures and to cumbersome arrangements mandated by the Security Council, such as UN contract checking procedures at Iraqi ports of entry that can greatly delay shipments. (76)

No one can condone the Iraqi government’s failings and its lack of proper concern for the well-being of its people. To blame the government of Iraq alone for the human crisis, though, is to ignore the responsibility of the Security Council and two of its leading members.

The politics of blame, instigated by the supporters of comprehensive economic sanctions, seeks to focus public discussion on the behaviour of a vilified Saddam Hussein, as the personification of evil and to absolve the Security Council (and the US-UK) from all responsibility. This line of argument reduces the Iraqi people’s plight to a single cause: the machinations of a demented dictator. It is quite possible to remain a vigorous critic of Saddam Hussein and to reject this distorting project of vilification as an excuse for the sanctions. The lead reforming delegations on the Council such as Canada and Slovenia clearly had no sympathy for the Iraqi leader and loathed his human rights record. Indeed, they proposed targeting him and his circle directly in a new sanctions approach. Paradoxically, those who proposed vilification insisted on sanctions that were least damaging to Hussein and worked most clearly to his advantage!

European inter-war history of 1919-38 shows that national humiliation and ruinous economic pressure by the victors breeds resentment on which dictatorships thrive. (77) The founders of the United Nations knew this lesson well. Some of their successors have tragically chosen to forget.

4.4 Commercial Interests and Oil Politics

Enormous commercial interests shape policies on Iraq sanctions, taking their toll in human consequences. Oil resources have greatly influenced Iraq’s own domestic politics, of course. Oil revenues created a welfare state with considerable benefits prior to 1990, but they also fuelled Iraq’s oppressive government, its army, its intelligence services and its weapons programs, laying some of the basis for the current conflict. Iraq manipulates its oil sales, trade contracts and future oil production agreements to gain external political backing. But the commercial dimension of Iraq sanctions do not end with Iraq’s own “oil rent” dictatorship and the regime’s manoeuvres for survival.

Neighboring states such as Jordan, Syria, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Turkey have clear interests in a lucrative export trade with Iraq, which greatly influences their policy towards this powerful neighbor. (78) They get oil-for-food contracts and they are involved in the smuggling trade as well. (79) Egypt saw its exports to Iraq soar from $105 million in 1997 to almost $1 billion in 2000. UAE exports to Iraq rose from $24 million to over $500 million in the same period. Syria and Turkey benefit from transiting Iraq’s oil exports, for they are bordering states through which Iraq’s oil flows, both legally and illegally. Additionally, Jordan has a special deal for Iraqi oil at reduced prices for its domestic use. France, Russia and China (permanent members of the Security Council) also have very substantial interests in commercial relations with Iraq, selling hundreds of millions of dollars in goods every year to Baghdad. Of the first $18.29 billion of oil-for-food contracts approved by the Security Council, $5.48 billion went to just these three countries. Further, Russia and France are owed billions of dollars by Iraq from arms sales prior to the Gulf War, loans they hope will be repaid through enlarged trade, oil deals, and growing Iraqi prosperity. Finally, Russian, Chinese and French companies are buyers of Iraq’s oil. Russian traders, in particular, have won a very large share of recent Iraqi oil-sale contracts. Iraq offers these commercial deals to curry favour and support. Commercial interests incline these states to support Iraq and to favor a more lenient approach to sanctions policies, though continued sanctions may offer some of them rich rewards in smuggling and “political” contracts that they could not win on an open market.

The most important commercial interest in Iraq is not trade but oil (and gas) production. Iraq possesses the world’s second largest proven oil reserves, currently estimated at 112.5 billion barrels, about 11% of the world total and its gas fields are immense as well. Many experts believe that Iraq has additional undiscovered oil reserves, which might double the total when serious prospecting resumes, putting Iraq nearly on a par with Saudi Arabia. Iraq’s oil is of high quality and it is very inexpensive to produce, making it one of the world’s most profitable oil sources. Oil companies hope to gain production rights over these rich fields of Iraqi oil, worth hundreds of billions of dollars. In the view of an industry source it is “a boom waiting to happen.” (80) As rising world demand depletes reserves in most world regions over the next 10-15 years, Iraq’s oil will gain increasing importance in global energy supplies. According to the industry expert: “There is not an oil company in the world that doesn’t have its eye on Iraq.”(81) Geopolitical rivalry among major nations throughout the past century has often turned on control of such key oil resources. (82)

Five companies dominate the world oil industry, two US-based, two primarily UK-based, and one primarily based in France. (83) US-based Exxon Mobil looms largest among the world’s oil companies and by some yardsticks measures as the world’s biggest company. The United States consequently ranks first in the corporate oil sector, with the UK second and France trailing as a distant third. Considering that the US and the UK act almost alone as sanctions advocates and enforcers, and that they are the headquarters of the world’s four largest oil companies, we cannot ignore the possible relationship of sanctions policy with this powerful corporate interest.

US and UK companies long held a three-quarter share in Iraq’s oil production, but they lost their position with the 1972 nationalization of the Iraq Petroleum Company. (84) The nationalization, following ten years of increasingly rancorous relations between the companies and the government, rocked the international oil industry, as Iraq sought to gain greater control of its oil resources. After the nationalization, Iraq turned to French companies and the Russian (Soviet) government for funds and partnerships. (85) Today, the US and UK companies are very keen to regain their former position, which they see as critical to their future leading role in the world oil industry. The US and the UK governments also see control over Iraqi and Gulf oil as essential to their broader military, geo-strategic and economic interests. At the same time, though, other states and oil companies hope to gain a large or even dominant position in Iraq. As de-nationalization sweeps through the oil sector, international companies see Iraq as an extremely attractive potential field of expansion. France and Russia, the longstanding insiders, pose the biggest challenge to future Anglo-American domination, but serious competitors from China, Germany and Japan also play in the Iraq sweepstakes.(86)

During the 1990s, Russia’s Lukoil, China National Petroleum Corporation and France’s TotalElfFina held contract talks with the government of Iraq over plans to develop Iraqi fields as soon as sanctions are lifted. Lukoil reached an agreement in 1997 to develop Iraq’s West Qurna field, while China National signed an agreement for the North Rumailah field in the same year (China’s oil import needs from the Persian Gulf will grow from 0.5 million barrels per day in 1997 to 5.5 million barrels per day in 2020, making China one of the region’s most important customers). (87) France’s Total at the same time held talks for future development of the fabulous Majnun field.

US and UK companies have been very concerned that their rivals might gain a major long-term advantage in the global oil business. “Iraq possesses huge reserves of oil and gas – reserves I’d love Chevron to have access to,” enthused Chevron CEO Kenneth T. Derr in a 1998 speech at the Commonwealth Club of San Franciso, in which he pronounced his strong support for sanctions. (88) Sanctions have kept the rivals at bay, a clear advantage. US-UK companies hope that the regime will eventually collapse, giving them a strong edge over their competitors with a post-Saddam government. As the embargo weakens and Saddam Hussein holds on to power, however, stakes in the rivalry rise, for US-UK companies might eventually be shouldered aside. Direct military intervention by the US-UK offers a tempting but dangerous gamble that might put Exxon, Shell, BP and Chevron in immediate control of the Iraqi oil boom, but at the risk of backlash from a regional political explosion.

In testimony to Congress in 1999, General Anthony C. Zinni, commander in chief of the US Central Command, testified that the Gulf Region, with its huge oil reserves, is a “vital interest” of “long standing” for the United States and that the US “must have free access to the region’s resources.” (89) “Free access,” it seems, means both military and economic control of these resources. This has been a major goal of US strategic doctrine ever since the end of World War II. Prior to 1971, Britain (the former colonial power) policed the region and its oil riches. Since then, the United States has deployed ever-larger military forces to assure “free access” through overwhelming armed might. (90)

To appraise the humanitarian and human rights impact of Iraq sanctions, we must take into account these commercial and oil interests and their substantial policy impact. Such factors do not alone determine the course of Iraq sanctions, but they appear to be an enormously powerful policy influence. Members of UN Security Council delegations are well-aware of this, and they privately refer to it often. Indeed, they cannot avoid a cynical posture towards their responsibilities under international law, as they become aware that oil politics and geo-strategic rivalry greatly overshadows humanitarian considerations that could protect and guarantee the rights of innocent Iraqis.


Chapter 5. Oil-for-Food
In the mid-1990s, as political support for Iraq sanctions declined, the Security Council decided to revise its earlier plan on humanitarian trade, proposing that Iraq export oil on a controlled basis and use the revenues, under UN supervision, to buy humanitarian supplies. The Council passed Resolution 986 as a “temporary” measure on April 12, 1995, with a restrictive cap on oil sales. The government of Iraq, facing an increasingly serious economic crisis, agreed to the Council’s conditions a year later. Though Oil-for-Food brought undoubted short term benefits to a desperate population, it never eliminated the humanitarian crisis.

5.1. A Short Term Policy

When the Security Council and the government of Iraq finally agreed in May 1996 to allow the sale of oil for the purchase of food and other necessities, no one supposed that six years later the UN would be still be operating on the same basis, running a program to provide the Iraqi population with an inadequate supply of even the most basic necessities. (91)

In November 2000 the UN Secretariat reported to the Security Council that

the humanitarian programme was never intended to meet all the humanitarian needs of the Iraqi population or to be a substitute for normal economic activity. Also the programme is not geared to address the longer term deterioration of living standards or to remedy declining health standards and infrastructure. (92)
The Secretary-General repeated this concern in his report of March 2, 2001, reminding the Council that Oil for Food "was never meant to meet all the needs of the Iraqi people and cannot be a substitute for normal economic activity in Iraq."
The US and the UK have consistently ignored the implications of such warnings. As year after year of this “short term” program passes, it results in further deterioration of the country’s dilapidated infrastructure, more human suffering, and deeper damage to Iraqi society. Officials in the United Nations with direct experience in administering Oil-for-Food, like Denis Halliday and Hans von Sponeck, concluded that the system was unworkable and should not continue.

5.2 Deductions and Delays

Under Resolution 986, the Council initially allowed Iraq to sell $2.0 billion worth of oil every six months. The resolution called for deductions of 30% from all Iraqi oil sales to finance the Compensation Fund. The resolution allowed additional deductions of about 4% for UN agencies including the Office of the Iraq Programme (OIP), the arms inspection units (the UN Special Commission - UNSCOM - and the International Atomic Energy Authority – IAEA), and for fees for the use of the Turkish pipeline for Iraq’s oil exports. Of the remaining 66%, the resolution earmarked 13% for the three autonomous Kurdish northern governorates of Dahuk, Arbil and Suleymaniyah, where a UN inter-agency group would run the humanitarian program, and the remaining 53% for the balance of the country where the government would be in charge of distribution. The government of Iraq accepted the resolution in May 1996, and oil started flowing in December 1996. Because of procurement and shipping lags, the UN humanitarian supplies did not arrive in Iraq until April 1997.

This arrangement contained a strange allocation of the deductions, taking them all from the portion allocated to the Baghdad-controlled population. Thus the 13% of the population in the Kurdish areas of the North got 13% of the total oil sales, while 87% of the population in the Baghdad-controlled areas in the Center and South got just 53% of oil sales – 61% of the rate available in the North. (93)

Contrary to common perception, the Oil-for-Food program is not “humanitarian aid.” No foreign government or NGO donates food, medicines or other necessities to Iraq under the program. The government of Iraq sells oil and then pays in hard currency (from a UN-controlled “escrow account”) for imports which the Security Council Sanctions Committee must approve. Thereafter, the UN distributes the imports in the North and UN staff oversee Iraqi government distribution in the Center and South.

From December 10, 1996 until July 19, 2002, a period of over five and a half years, the government of Iraq sold a total of $55.4 billion in oil through UN-controlled sales. This amount looks impressive. However, far less in value of goods has arrived in Iraq. After 33% deductions for a combination of war reparations, UN operations and other items, the Council and the UN Secretariat approved $35.8 billion in contracts. (94) As of July 19, 2002, only $23.5 billion worth of goods had actually arrived in Iraq. (95) A combination of factors explain this $10.2 disparity, including cumbersome procedures imposed by Security Council rules, poor or obstructionist Iraqi management, “holds” mostly imposed by the United States, and other factors.

Over a period of about five years, serving an Iraqi population of 23 million, the program has delivered roughly $200 worth of goods per capita per year, including oil spare parts and other goods not directly consumed by the population. Allowing for domestic production outside the Oil-for-Food program and for smuggling, the result still appears to leave Iraqi citizens an exceedingly low per capita income which may be at or below the $1 per day World Bank threshold of absolute poverty.

Responding to criticisms of slow delivery, the Security Council has streamlined procedures for contract approval since the early days of the program. By 2002, the UN Office of the Iraq Programme (OIP) had introduced procedural reforms including electronic submission of contract technical details, electronic signatures from border inspection personnel, several fast-track lists for items with no dual-use concern, a pre-vetting of contracts by OIP experts, and improved means for financial transactions. But OIP has been under-staffed and faced with a huge and growing task of contract management and oversight.

For the country as a whole, less than two-thirds of the ordered items have arrived during the whole program. Sanctions proponents argue that this discrepancy is largely due to deliberate Iraqi obstruction. The evidence, rather, is that the contract approval system put in place by the Security Council bears a substantial responsibility for these delays and delivery blockages. In spite of improvements and reforms and in spite of the good will of many UN officials who do their best to speed the process along, oil-for-food still suffers from heavy bureaucratic centralization and red tape, as well as political manipulation, for which the Iraqi people pay a heavy price.

5.3 Blocked Contracts, Holds and “Dual-Use”

In the period before Oil-for-Food, the Iraq Sanctions Committee reviewed proposed import contracts to determine whether they should be exempted from the import ban under Resolution 687. Foods and medicines considered strictly humanitarian most readily won approval, but even in this humanitarian area the Committee blocked contracts when a single delegation objected. The United States tended to block foods that might be inputs to Iraqi food processing industries as well as a range of medicines that were alleged to have potential military use. Additionally, the United States, blocked a large number of contracts for other goods, including wrist watches, paper, textiles, shoe soles and other ordinary items that had no possible military use. The US blocked shoe soles as inputs to Iraqi industry but allowed complete shoes to be imported, it blocked textiles but allowed ready-to-wear clothes to be imported. The Committee never developed any criteria, addressing each contract on an ad hoc basis. The United States and the UK were not the only delegations to propose blockage of contracts, but they were responsible for the great majority of blockages. Their actions appeared to many observers to be arbitrary, capricious and punitive. (96)

After the passage of Resolution 986, the ground rules changed, but barriers to contracts remained a major issue of contention. The United States and the UK insisted that Iraq be prevented from importing not only weapons but also items that appear to be for civilian use but which might in some way contribute to the government’s military capacity or be turned into weapons through re-manufacturing. Such items are known as “dual-use.” A Council member could place such items, or any other that they chose, on “hold” – blocking them as an agreed import. Of fifteen Council members, only two made regular use of holds: the United States and the UK. The United States imposed the overwhelming majority. As of July 19, 2002, no less than $5.4 billion in contracts were on hold, (97) up from $3.7 billion on May 14, 2001.

Holds have blocked vital goods. They have affected water purification systems, sewage pipes, medicines, hospital equipment, fertilizers, electricity and communications infrastructure, oil field equipment, and much else. Sometimes just a small part of these contracts is alleged to have dual use. Other Council members do not agree that these items represent a credible dual-use threat, and they have often noted that holds are imposed inconsistently – an item may be placed on hold on one occasion and let through on another, even on contract with the same firm. Because the Sanctions Committee works by consensus, a single member can block any contract, even if all other members are ready to approve. As a result of these holds, contracts for many critical infrastructure projects failed to gain approval, generating much international criticism of the holds process and contributing to the broad loss of credibility of the Iraq sanctions regime.

On December 18, 2001, the OIP weekly update noted that

The total value of contracts placed on hold by the 661 Committee continued to rise . . . The “holds” covered 1,610 contracts for the purchase of various humanitarian supplies and equipment, including 1,072 contracts, worth $3.85 billion, for humanitarian supplies and 538 contracts, worth $527 million, for oil industry equipment. During the week, the Committee released from hold 14 contracts, worth $19.8 million. However, it placed on hold 57 new contracts, worth $140.6 million. (98)
These numbers dwarfed the 161 contracts on the same date, worth $253 million, that were on “inactive hold,” that is, for which the problem was the result of some administrative irregularity. (99)
Many present and past members of the Council and other expert observers believe that the United States often has used the system of “holds” for political purposes and not because of real concerns over the dual-use potential in contracts. Even the UK, which has imposed a very small minority of holds, has quietly expressed concern that US holds are excessive and impossible to defend. The UK government took a diplomatic initiative in 2000 to persuade Washington to ease up on the holds and let more goods through. The United States, however, did not agree. Since the UK démarche, the value of contracts on hold has more than doubled, from $2.25 billion in October 2000 to $5.4 billion in mid-July 2002. As of February 2001, the most recent date for which we have a complete breakdown, the US was solely responsible for over 93% of all holds, the US and the UK together for 5%, and the UK alone for 1%, while 1% was attributable to all other Council delegations, past and present. Approximately the same breakdown has continued to July, 2002, according to knowledgeable delegates.

Though the holds add up to a very large figure, the numbers alone do not tell the full story. The United States delegation may have insisted on putting a “hold” on just one item in a large contract, with the result that the whole contract was blocked. In the worst case, one contract put on hold can endanger an entire investment project. As OIP Director Benon Sevan noted in 1999,

The absence of a single spare part or item of equipment, as small as it may be, could be sufficient to prevent the completion of an entire water injection project or well completion programme. (100)
Sevan notes that the oil sector is the source of all the humanitarian revenue. Yet this sector was at first prevented entirely from importing equipment and spare parts (101) and it continues to suffer severe dilapidation because of a large number of holds that result in permanent damage to oil wells, serious safety risks, dangers of environmental damage, and risk to the country’s future production capacity. (102) Sevan has noted that such vital items as pumping controls, exploration equipment, well-drilling, degassing, hydrostatic testing and much more have been placed on hold. (103) Such goods are vital for rehabilitation and modernization of the oil sector, a precondition for Iraq to produce more oil to pay for its immediate needs and long-term reconstruction.
Holds placed on pesticides and animal vaccines have resulted in serious loss of domestic food production. Even essential health care equipment has not escaped the dubious charge of “dual-use.” There have been holds on heart-lung machines, blood gas analyzers, and other equipment. In some cases, the US has argued that it has put holds on such orders because of associated computers or data processing capacity. Sevan expressed his scepticism of this approach in comments in February 2002:

Many of the items such as computers placed on hold are readily available in the markets and shops of Baghdad . . . what is being placed on hold is the utilization of funds from the escrow account. (104)
In one case, an ambulance contract suffered because it contained communication equipment. In the end, though, the vehicles got through, but only because they were delivered without radios, which had to be removed from the contracts as a condition of lifting the holds. (105)
The UN can track the end-use of imports and determine that they were used for stated, purely civilian purposes. This is known as the “end-use/user verification” process and some 300 UN staff are currently available in Iraq for this purpose. UN officials, including the Secretary General, have regularly criticised the “holds” and argued that the UN has a much-enhanced capacity for on-site inspections and end-use verification. (106) But the United States insists that it has little faith in such options, preferring to impose holds instead. While perfect verification is probably impossible, the US approach imposes a very high cost for a very slight benefit. Its holds prevent many critical goods from reaching Iraq, blocking essential humanitarian supplies and urgently needed equipment and infrastructure. The import of modern ambulances without communications radio suggests the unacceptably compromised humanitarian system that Iraq must endure under the UN flag.

Resolution 1409 of May 14, 2002 theoretically eliminates holds, but it will probably not eliminate blocked goods. The massive Goods Review List, with suspect items totalling more than 300 pages,(107) provides a substantial barrier to future importation of goods into Iraq. Further, the Iraq Sanctions Committee will continue to exercise oversight and we can expect, based on past practice, that the US will find ways to block large numbers of contracts and insist that the Goods Review List be administered in a restrictive way.

Some knowledgeable observers believe that the new arrangements under Resolution 1409, including the administration of the Goods Review List, may prove equally onerous than the system that preceded it. No one expects that shipments for vital infrastructure like water, sanitation, communications, and electricity will suddenly rise to acceptable levels. Nor is it expected that the oil industry, which provides the essential funding of the humanitarian program, will be able to obtain sufficient badly needed parts and equipment, much less new investment.

Looking at the accumulated records of holds, the biggest disparity between orders and deliveries exists in the Telecommunications-Transport sector, where the US has placed so many holds that the value of contracts on hold recently exceeded the value of all contracts delivered throughout the program. (108) The Electricity, Oil Spares and Water-Sanitation sectors likewise suffer from large numbers of “holds” on contracts that are vital to Iraq’s infrastructure. UN officials implementing the program have insisted repeatedly that such holds gravely damage the program. Sevan has spoken about holds’ “direct negative effect on the program,” about the “interminable quagmire,” and the “appalling disrepair” of Iraqi infrastructure” but to no avail. (109) Resolution 1409 may at least partially relieve this nightmare, but progress initially appears very slow. In the first week of implementation, just $7.6 million in holds were released, (110) a rate that if sustained would require more than 13 years to work down the entire backlog.

5.4 War Reparations Fund: Oil-for-Compensation

As we have seen, the United Nations deducts a substantial proportion of Iraq’s oil sales for payment into a fund to compensate for war damages. The Council set up the Compensation Commission with Resolution 692 and in Resolution 705 it set the deductions from the Oil-for-Food account at the very high level of 30%, against the advice of the Secretary General.

The Compensation Commission has considered a very large number of claims, including claims on behalf of many individuals. According to the Commission’s web site, the Commission received approximately 1,356,500 small individual claims and settled them all with payments of approximately $16 billion. Many of the claimants had been migrant workers from Egypt and other countries, working in Iraq and Kuwait at the time the war broke out. A strong case can be made for compensating these individuals. The Commission wisely gave priority to their claims. (111)

Corporations and governments have made most of the remaining claims, which come to an additional sum of about $290 billion. This includes claims by various Kuwait government ministries and by the Kuwait Oil Company concerning wartime losses. Considering the wealth of Kuwait and the absence of humanitarian problems there, the deduction of a large share of Iraq’s oil sales for war reparations to such claimants appears punitive and not attuned to Iraq’s urgent humanitarian and reconstruction needs. (112)

These are probably the most severe war reparations since the Treaty of Versailles, at the end of World War I. Taking a lesson from the interwar crisis, the victors of World War II did not impose war reparations on Germany and Japan, in spite of terrible damage they inflicted on other countries and personal hardship imposed on millions of people.

The Council has given the Compensation Commission unusual authority and power. The Commission operates secretively and allows Iraq only to comment on a summary of each case. The operations of the Commission alone absorb more than $50 million per year, also deducted from the Iraq’s oil export funds. (113)

The reparations process appears even more troubling when its results are compared with the results of the humanitarian goods going to Iraq. While the compensation fund received an allocation of about 29% on average, it actually awarded a total of $38 billion in compensation as of April 2002 compared to just $47 billion in humanitarian supplies ordered by Iraq as of the same date, putting the compensation fund awards at 45% vs. humanitarian orders placed at 55%. As of the same date, the compensation fund had paid out $16 billion to settle claims, while the humanitarian program had received only $21 billion in goods, putting the compensation fund at 43%, while the actual humanitarian outlays came to just 57%.

The reparations fund appears punitive and contrary to basic humanitarian principles due to its exceptionally large claim on total resources. Many Council members have taken this view, but they have been unable to persuade the sanctions protagonists that humanitarian needs should have priority over compensation claimants, especially wealthy claimants such as the Government of Kuwait, Kuwait’s state oil company, and other governments and large corporations.

Responding to growing criticism and a sharp controversy within the Council following a Compensation Commission award of $15.9 billion to the Kuwait Petroleum Corporatioin, the US and the UK agreed to reduce reparations deductions from 30% to 25% in Resolution 1330 of December 5, 2000, after the small claimants had been paid. Though very welcome, especially since the funds were allocated to the Center and South, this step fell far short of humanitarian standards. The reparations deduction should instead be eliminated completely until humanitarian needs in Iraq are completely met. Further, a limit should be placed on the corporate and government compensation level, so as not to hobble the Iraqi economy for decades to come and stoke future resentment.

5.5 North vs. Center-South

Sanctions advocates make much of differences in humanitarian conditions between the three Kurdish governates in the North of Iraq, where the UN directly administers Oil-for-Food and the 15 governates in the Center and South, where the Governmant of Iraq administers the program. Better conditions in the North are alleged to prove that Saddam Hussein’s misrule is the sole explanation of the difference. On March 24, 2000, Peter Hain, Minister of State at the Foreign Office told the UK House of Commons:

exactly the same sanctions regime applies [in the north] . . . The difference is that Saddam’s writ does not run there. Why do sanctions critics prefer to ignore that inconvenient but crucial fact. (114)
But Hain was seriously misstating the case. Other important variables enter the equation, some an integral part of the Security Council sanctions’ architecture, of which the UK was a principal author and defender.
First, as we have already seen, the system of deductions results in per capita spending in the Center-South that was only 61% of the rate in the North until December 5, 2000 (69% thereafter), a very substantial difference. Second, the sanctions allow contracts going to the North to contain a “commercial clause” that enforces the quality of goods received, whereas the Center-South cannot include such a clause and must accept shoddy and even unusable merchandise with no legal recourse. Third, the sanctions allow the North to derive cash from 10% of its oil sales allocation, while absolutely no cash is available in the Center-South. Cash is needed to pay for services in the local economy, including staff for health clinics and food distribution programs. Fourth, while many important contracts in the South are blocked by holds, the United States puts relatively few holds on goods for the North, resulting in real infrastructure improvement in such sectors as electricity and public health. The US and the UK designed these four differences into the sanctions regime, but their propaganda pretends that the differences do not exist.

Several other regional differences explain part of the humanitarian variation. There is very active clandestine cross-border trade (smuggling) in the North, invigorating the economy there and putting money in the pockets of local people. Also, the climate in the North is more favorable, with cooler weather and more rainfall, resulting in better water supplies, more local food crops, and better overall health conditions. The North, with just 9% of the land area of the country, has nearly 50% of the productive, arable land.

The Government of Iraq is the seventh variable. Its administration is clearly less concerned with human welfare than the UN efforts in the North. It has not used imported goods as well, and it has failed to effectively implement targeted programs. But a fair appraisal of the North/Center-South differences must conclude that the Security Council bears considerable responsibility by imposing exceptionally harsh sanction conditions on the Center-South region, where 87% of the Iraqi population lives.

Conditions in the North may be better than the Center-South, but they are by no means acceptable. According to a study published in January 2002 by Save the Children, 60% of the population in the North live in deep poverty – with 40% living on incomes of under $300 per household per year and a further 20% living on less than $150 per household per year. The report concludes that the sanctions and ration system has “destroyed normal economic life for the vast majority,” who subsist largely through “unprecedented levels of dependency.” Up to 85% of the population are “at risk” in case of any reduction of their food access through the ration system. (115)

5.6 Nutrition and Health

Survey information by the World Food Programme/Food and Agriculture Organisa-tion in 2000 indicated 800,000 Iraqi children “chronically malnourished.” (116) The UNICEF 1999 study, also based on extensive field surveys, had shown 21% of children under five underweight, 20% stunted (chronic malnutrition) and 9% wasted (acute malnutrition). Several recent reports have noted that the UN has created initiatives to help the most vulnerable in the Center and South through targeted nutrition programs. These have had some positive results, but it is clear that the government of Iraq has not adequately implemented them.

The FAO 2000 report pointed out that at 2,000 kilocalories, the universal ration provided under the UN program was insufficient in total yield, absent substantial local food additions. The same report insisted also that the composition of the food basket remained nutritionally inadequate:

Of great concern is the lack of a number of important vitamins and minerals such as vitamin A, C, riboflavin, folate and iron in the diet. Although the planned ration is reasonably adequate in energy and total protein, it is lacking in vegetables, fruit, and animal products and is therefore deficient in micronutrients." (117)
Despite the Oil-for-Food program and the $11 billion worth of food that has entered the country, infant mortality remains very high. Today, most child deaths are not directly due to malnutrition, though. Rather, they are water-related, from such conditions as diarrhoea. Poor water quality and lack of sanitation, combined with existing malnourishment, have taken over from poor nutrition as the prime killer of children in Iraq. UNICEF reported in July 2001 that “Diarrhoea leading to death from dehydration and acute respiratory infections (ARI), together account for 70 per cent of child deaths.” (118)
Deliberate bombing of water treatment facilities during the Gulf War originally degraded the water quality. Since that time, sanctions-based “holds” have blocked the rebuilding of much of Iraq’s water treatment infrastructure. Additionally, sanctions have blocked the rebuilding of the electricity sector which powers pumps and other vital water treatment equipment.

Health problems in Iraq arise from multiple factors, many of which can be attributed to the sanctions. Electricity shortages, in addition to shutting down water-treatment, seriously disrupt hospital care and disrupt the storage of certain types of medicines. Sanctions also result in shortages of medical equipment and spare parts, blockages of certain important medicines, shortage of skilled medical staff, and more.

There can be no doubt, based on health and mortality surveys, that Iraqis are suffering from a major public health crisis. The sanctions both deepen that crisis as a cause and also block measures that could mitigate it through public health measures and curative medical procedures. The health status of the Iraqi people has been a key indicator of the humanitarian consequences of the Iraq sanctions regime.

5.7 Deaths

None deny that Iraq sanctions have caused many deaths, but a debate has raged over how many. The larger the number, the greater the burden on sanction advocates to justify their actions. Unfortunately, wrangling over numbers obscures the unavoidable reality: a tragically large humanitarian disaster.

The measurement of deaths rests on the concept of “excess” mortality – those deaths that exceed the mortality rate in the previous, pre-sanctions period or that exceed a projection of the earlier trend towards further gains. The previous mortality rate is well-established, but two arguments arise – first, what is the present mortality rate (which, some argue, may be distorted by false Iraq government statistics) and second, what is the cause of such mortality increase. Neither of these questions has a simple answer. Not surprisingly, the government of Iraq claims a very large increase and blames most of its child mortality on sanctions. UNICEF, in a widely-publicised study carried out jointly with the Iraq Ministry of Health, determined that 500,000 children under five years old had died in “excess” numbers in Iraq between 1991 and 1998, though UNICEF insisted that this number could not all be ascribed directly to sanctions. (119) UNICEF used surveys of its own as part of the basic research and involved respected outside experts in designing the study and evaluating the data. UNICEF remains confident in the accuracy of its numbers and points out that they have never been subject to a scientific challenge.

Prof. Richard Garfield of Columbia University carried out a separate and well-regarded study of excess mortality in Iraq. Garfield considered the same age group and the same time period as the UNICEF study. (120) He minimized reliance on official Iraqi statistics by using many different statistical sources, including independent surveys in Iraq and inferences from comparative public health data from other countries. Garfield concluded that there had been a minimum of 100,000 excess deaths and that the more likely number was 227,000. He compared this estimate to a maximum estimate of 66,663 civilian and military deaths during the Gulf War. Garfield now thinks the most probable number of deaths of under-five children from August 1991 to June 2002 would be about 400,000. (121)

There are no reliable estimates of the total number of excess deaths in Iraq beyond the under-five population. Even with conservative assumptions, though, the total of all excess deaths must be far above 400,000.

All of these excess deaths should not be ascribed to sanctions. Some may be due to a variety of other causes. But all major studies make it clear that sanctions have been the primary cause, because of the sanctions’ impact on food, medical care, water, and other health-related factors. Though oil-for-food has changed the situation studied by UNICEF and Garfield, resulting in less malnutrition, recent field reports suggest that infant mortality remains high, due to water-borne disease. (122) The mortality rate for under-five children has probably not continued to rise since the 1999 studies, but the rate apparently remains very much higher than that reported in Iraq before 1990.

In the face of such powerful evidence, the US and UK governments have sometimes practiced bold denial. Brian Wilson, Minister of State at the UK Foreign Office told a BBC interviewer on February 26, 2001 “There is no evidence that sanctions are hurting the Iraqi people.” When denial has proved impossible, officials have occasionally fallen back on astonishingly callous affirmations. In a famous interview with Madeleine Albright, then US representative at the United Nations, Leslie Stahl of the television show 60 Minutes said: “We have heard that half a million children have died . . . is the price worth it? Albright replied, “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price – we think the price is worth it.” (123)

Six years after Albright’s statement and twelve years after Security Council Resolution 661, comprehensive economic sanctions continue to impose on Iraq a very high number of deaths of young children, as measured by careful and well-regarded estimates. Combined with the deaths of older children and adults, this adds up to a great and unjustifiable humanitarian tragedy.


Chapter 6 “Smart” Sanctions, Price Disputes and Military Threats
6.1. Background

Sanctions results in the 1990s suggest that comprehensive economic sanctions are ineffective and do not reliably persuade the leadership of an offending country to make required policy changes. (124) Secretary Generals Boutros Boutros-Ghali and Kofi Annan have made this point repeatedly in public statements. The Security Council itself no longer uses such broad sanctions in other international security crises and seeks instead to develop more “targeted” sanctions.

UN officials, academic experts and national policy makers have recently held a number of conferences to consider how sanctions could be better targeted on the arms trade and on the personal finances and travel of responsible leaders and elites. The most important such efforts are known as the Interlaken Process (sponsored by the Swiss government) which began in March 1998, the Bonn-Berlin Processes (sponsored by the German government) which began in November 1999, and the Stockholm Process (sponsored by the Swedish government) which began in February, 2002. (125)

The Security Council briefly imposed targeted sanctions on the Iraqi leadership through Resolution 1137 of November 12, 1997, prohibiting international travel of listed leaders until full compliance with UNSCOM inspectors had been restored. That resolution brought swift Iraqi compliance, and seemed a great success, but curiously the Council did not further use this effective and well-targeted measure.

As international and domestic opposition to Iraq sanctions mounted in the late 1990’s, and as pressure rose for targeted sanctions against the Iraqi leadership, United States and UK policy makers sought means to deflect criticisms while holding the comprehensive sanctions system in place. During the US presidential election campaign in 2000, candidate George W. Bush often spoke of the need for a new approach to Iraq sanctions. Secretary of State Powell, in his congressional confirmation hearings in early 2001, repeatedly stressed the need to shore up public opinion against Iraq through what he referred to as “smart” sanctions:

So this wasn't an effort to ease the sanctions; this was an effort to rescue the sanctions policy that was collapsing. We discovered that we were in an airplane that was heading to a crash, and what we have done and what we are trying to do is to pull it out of that dive and put it on an altitude that's sustainable, bring the coalition back together.” (126)
Early in 2001, after a tour of the region by Secretary Powell, the UK government (with US support) proposed to modify Iraq sanctions. The UK did not propose targeting the Iraqi leadership, however, ignoring several years of discussions about more effective sanctions. Rather, the UK proposed a further streamlining of imports, combined with more rigorous controls at Iraq’s borders to prevent smuggling. Eventually, after much discussion, this proposal bogged down in the summer of 2001 in the face of doubts by many Council members and a threatened Russian veto.
The events of September 11, 2001 changed the political equation on the Council and created greater unity among the permanent members through shared concern about terrorism and related issues. As a result, opposition by Russia, China and France to Iraq sanctions softened, opening the way for a modified version of the original UK resolution centering on a Goods Review List (GRL) to streamline imports. Resolution 1382 (November 2001) provided for a GRL to be adopted by the Council by May 29, 2002. The GRL theoretically offered a means to speed contract approval by compiling in advance a list of potentially dual-use items, with all remaining items exempted from automatic Sanctions Committee review. Committee members would retain the option, though, to block future contracts.

The United States and Russia negotiated the GRL list over the course of several months, with the Russians favoring a short list and the US favoring a long one. The United States lifted holds on $200 million in Russian contracts and it promised to lift holds on $550 more as a means to secure Russian agreement. (127) France and China allegedly asked for holds on their contracts to be lifted also, as a condition of their agreement. (128) Since the policies of the US and the UK are widely believed to be driven by commercial interests in the oil sector, this bargaining fed the perception that the Security Council sanctions are dominated by commercial dealing among the permanent members, not by concerns about “peace and security” or arms control.(129) The elected members of the Council were kept, as usual, entirely in the dark until the resolution was finally submitted to the Council on a take-it-or-leave-it basis.

6.2. Smart Sanctions vs. Targeted Sanctions

Reconstruction and economic revival, not the relief-based approach of the Oil-for-Food program and its “smart” variant, are essential to human development and the human rights of Iraq’s people.

US-inspired smart sanctions, mainly in the form of a Goods Review List, completely fail to address the major problems of the current sanctions against Iraq. Four pillars of the present sanctions effectively prevent the rebuilding of Iraq’s economy:

Targeting the entire population, not just leaders

Controlling Iraq’s oil export income through a cumbersome UN-administered “escrow account”

Controlling Iraqi imports in ways that limit access to key goods, especially items for Iraq’s infrastructure and for its oil sector, and that drastically slow the delivery of most contracts

Prohibiting foreign investment and freezing all foreign assets
The four pillars have remained the basic operating method of the (new) sanctions. No government could restore a healthy domestic economy within the confines of such sanctions. As the Security Council itself concluded in 1999, Oil-for-Food cannot provide a framework for rebuilding Iraq and restoring its vital infrastructure. (130)
The “smart” sanctions initially envisaged by the Security Council in Resolution 1382 and finally adopted in Resolution 1409 are not smart. They do not follow the recommendations of the Interlaken or Bonn-Berlin process. (131) They do not reflect a focus on the culprit regime or a better targeting of military equipment. While theoretically speeding up delivery of certain goods, these proposals also allow the blocking of vital imports. Iraq needs foreign investment projects and contact with the outside world to train a new generation of Iraqi managers, scientists and technicians. An open Iraq would almost certainly lead to positive political changes. Instead, “smart” sanctions shore up the old, failed system.

Judging by the experience of “fast-track” lists drawn up in 2000, the new “smart” sanctions could increase the volume of humanitarian goods arriving in Iraq, but this is by no means sure. Some well-informed observers think that the new system will be no better than the old and possibly worse, depending on how UNMOVIC, IAEA and OIP are able to handle the new process of contract compliance scrutiny. Even if the new arrangements result in some marginal improvement, they offer far too little to address the pressing humanitarian crisis. So much effort for such small gain suggests that the US and the UK are more interested in “public relations” (New York Times) or “cosmetic surgery” (The Economist) than in speeding up goods shipments to Iraq. (132)

6.3 Oil Pricing Disputes & Shrinking Humanitarian Revenue

A new crisis quickly overshadowed Resolution 1409. A clash over oil pricing methods resulted in rapidly falling Iraq oil sales and a severe shortfall of funds for the humanitarian program.

The crisis had its origins in late 2000 when oil traders buying Iraqi oil started to sell the oil at marked-up prices and kicked-back to Baghdad a portion of the premium they received. This scheme gave the Government of Iraq the cash it eagerly sought. Russian traders acted as the major intermediaries and profited handsomely. The kickback varied, but in early 2002 stood at 25-30 cents per barrel, or over 1% of the oil price, with price premiums running at 30-45 cents. (133) Had it continued, this scheme might theoretically have provided the government of Iraq with about $100 million in cash revenue annually, based on recent prices and export levels. Such a sum is relatively small in comparison to Iraq’s estimated smuggling revenues of at least $1.5 billion.

The US and UK demanded that the Security Council take steps to prevent these kickbacks. Some delegations objected, but ultimately the US-UK prevailed. In October 2001, the Iraq Sanctions Committee introduced a new system known as “retroactive pricing,” which reduced premiums to 10-15 cents per barrel by July 2002 and nearly eliminated all kick-backs. But the Council’s new pricing system left oil buyers uncertain of final prices at the time of purchase. Increased uncertainty for buyers and reduced profit margins for oil traders reduced demand for Iraqi oil by a third or more. (134)

The shrinking market took a heavy toll on the humanitarian program. In mid-February OIP Executive Director Benon Sevan spoke to the Council of the program’s “financial crisis.” (135) Iraq’s refusal to sell oil for a month (April 8-May 8, 2002), announced as a show of support for Palestinians, further worsened the situation, as did weakening oil prices. As the demand crisis wore on, the pricing method had an increasingly negative effect on the humanitarian program. By July 26, a funds shortfall left the UN unable to act on 1,001 approved contracts worth $2.1 billion. (136)

Many in the Council came to believe that the US-UK pricing system was punitive and unacceptable. (137) The French circulated proposals in June to escape the impasse and restore acceptable prices, an initiative that attracted broad support. But the US-UK refused, insisting that the Council must dutifully block cash to the Iraqi government and blaming Iraq entirely for negative humanitarian consequences. Though many in the Council pressed for a speedy resolution, negotiations dragged on, while revenue shortfalls grew. Once again, the people of Iraq were forced to pay a heavy price.

6.4 Regime Change, Military Threats and Appraisals of Iraq’s Rearmament

The United States government has consistently pursued a policy favoring a change of regime in Iraq. This policy has included clandestine support for Iraqi opposition groups and efforts to promote a military coup against Saddam Hussein. On October 31, 1998, shortly before Operation Desert Fox, President Bill Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act, which clearly identified regime-change as US policy and authorized spending and policy action in this direction.(138)

Since the fall of 2001, Washington has increased its commitment to regime-change. In President Bush’s State of the Union address in January 2002, he branded Iraq as a “terrorist state,” part of an “axis of evil” (139) and many reports have since circulated about plans for a military strike against Iraq. This dogmatic “good vs. evil” approach, endangers peace and ignores humanitarian considerations as well as opportunities for peaceful solutions. It does, however, provide a rationale for US military and political control of Iraq’s oil fields.

The US now alleges that Iraq possesses (or that it will soon acquire) weapons of mass destruction. This concern cannot be categorically rejected as implausible, in view of such weapons programs by Iraq in the recent past. But considerable doubt exists, among well-informed experts, like former weapons inspector Scott Ritter. (140) CIA reports recently concluded that there is no hard evidence for such claims. (141) And Senator Bob Graham, Chairman of the Intelligence Committee of the US Senate was reported on May 14, 2002 by USA Today to have said that “Based on the intelligence briefings he has received… Iraqi president Saddam Hussein is not on the verge of developing weapons of mass destruction.” (142)

It should be recalled that other countries have actually developed and deployed weapons of mass destruction without US-led military threats. Israel, South Africa under apartheid, India and Pakistan are cases in point. Such programs are extremely dangerous to world peace wherever they emerge, but Washington has applied drastically different standards in appraising them and claimed “global responsibilities” to act (or not) against each as its sees fit. Regional and international disarmament agreements would be far better guarantee of peace than unilateral decisions of a single superpower.

In the present political climate, the “hawks” in Washington are ready to disregard the weak evidence concerning Iraqi rearmament. Instead, they insist that Iraq poses such a grave and immediate danger that humanitarian considerations do not count and that a military strike is urgently necessary. (143) In such a heated atmosphere, the opportunity for lifting Security Council sanctions against Iraq may have temporarily diminished. Many Council delegations, though critical of the sanctions, are concerned primarily about averting a full-scale invasion of Iraq by the United States.

Such a dismal prospect need not prevail for long, however. The United States may draw back from the dangerous war option and members of the Security Council may again raise their voices for sound policy and for conformity with international law. The temporary unity of the Permanent Members is likely to weaken, making room for elected members of the Council to advance such proposals successfully, with broad backing from the international community. Public opinion, acting directly and through governments, is likely to pressure the Council in a more critical direction. A new dynamic can promote the values that gained ground in the late 1990s, a dynamic of far-reaching reform inspired by humanitarian concerns and legal mandates, not cynical commercial interests or expansionist geopolitical strategies.


Chapter 7 – The Council’s Obligations under Human Rights and Humanitarian Law
7.1. Legal Framework for the Security Council

The UN Charter gives the Security Council broad authority to maintain international peace and security, including the use of sanctions and international military action. The Charter also obliges member states to abide by Security Council resolutions even when such resolutions conflict with other treaties.

However, Article 24 of the Charter directs the Council “to act in accordance with the Purposes and Principles of the United Nations” when acting to maintain peace and security. The promotion of human rights is one of these fundamental “Purposes and Principles.” (144) Human rights have been elaborated in the Universal Declaration, the two International Covenants, and a variety of other international instruments including the Convention on the Rights of the Child, creating a legal framework for member states of the UN. While the Security Council may not be bound by human rights requirements in the same manner as a state, it must nevertheless act in conformity with these principles in fulfilling its duties under the Charter. The contrary view, that the Council is not bound by international law, defies not only the Charter but also common sense.

When responding to a threat to peace and security, it may not be clear whether the Security Council should abide by the war-time legal regime of humanitarian law or the peace-time regime of human rights. While both are grounded in humanitarian norms, they offer different levels of protection to the individual. Humanitarian law, the laws of war, permit belligerents to inflict collateral civilian casualties when attacking legitimate military targets, provided that the harm to civilians is not disproportionate to the value of the military target, that it was unavoidable and that all efforts have been made to minimise it. The human rights regime, on the other hand, provides stricter protection to civilian life, health and property. The Council is therefore under an obligation to respect both humanitarian law and human rights norms and to apply them in the framework of its actions on sanctions. But, some members believe that the Council enjoys a specially privileged position and is subject to no legal authority other than its own political judgements.(145)

The Security Council’s failure to address the human rights and humanitarian impact of sanctions has prompted regular expressions of concern from UN agencies, commissions, panels and other bodies – the Machel Report to the General Assembly (1996), the Comment by the Committee on Social, Economic and Cultural Rights (1997), the Statement by the Inter-Agency Standing Committee (1997), UNICEF’s Hoskins Report (1998), the Bossuyt Report of the Commission on Human Rights (2000) (tellingly entitled The Adverse Consequences of Economic Sanctions on the Enjoyment of Human Rights), (146) the Report of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights entitled The Human Rights Impact of Economic Sanctions on Iraq,(147) as well as reports of the International Committee for the Red Cross and many more. Human rights NGOs including Human Rights Watch and the Center for Economic and Social Rights have likewise raised serious questions about Iraq sanctions. A variety of international conferences have also raised these concerns, including Interlaken, Bonn-Berlin, Stockholm, the Symposia of the International Peace Academy, and the Colloquium on “United Nations Sanctions and International Law” of the Graduate Institute of International Affairs (1999). (148) There has not yet been a direct legal challenge to the Council on this issue, but there could and should be, possibly through the International Court of Justice.

7.2 Human Rights Law

The Security Council is bound to respect the full range of human rights standards in the major international legal instruments as an extension of its underlying obligations under the UN Charter. (149) It must ensure that its actions comply with these standards. Thus, the Security Council may not violate human rights, even when acting to maintain peace and security. The Council has two basic human rights duties:

procedural duties to recognize its human rights obligations and take concrete measures to monitor its actions to comply with these obligations; and

substantive duties not to undertake any actions that violate human rights, especially the rights of vulnerable groups with special legal protections, and to undertake immediate corrective measures in the case of violations.

The two sets of duties are closely linked. Procedural duties provide an essential safeguard against human rights violations by allowing the Security Council to monitor its activities for early warning signs of adverse human rights impacts. Since no outside body has yet successfully reviewed the legality of Security Council decisions, the Council must judge its own actions and hold itself accountable to human rights standards. Given its recently-expanded role in international affairs, the Security Council has an increased obligation to monitor and check its own actions.

Procedural Human Rights Violations

The Security Council has clearly violated its procedural human rights obligations throughout the course of its sanctions against Iraq. Given the extent of civilian suffering and the clear knowledge available, the Council has taken only token steps to measure the human rights impact of its sanctions or to modify its actions in accordance with human rights principles. At the very beginning of the sanctions, UN Secretary-General Javier Perez de Cuellar called for “close monitoring” as an essential tool for avoiding a humanitarian crisis:

The maintenance of food supply and consumption as well as the close monitoring of the nutritional and health status of the Iraqi population over the next few months are absolutely necessary to prevent full-scale famine and major human disasters developing in the country. (150)
Apart from the 1999 panels, however, the Council has never authorized an ongoing assessment of the sanctions’ humanitarian impact, due to vigorous opposition by the United States and the UK. Given the importance of the sanctions, such an assessment should be functioning on a permanent basis and offering regular reports to the Council. But the pro-sanction members vigorously resist such a step. As Hans von Sponeck said,
every attempt that I made with the United Nations in New York to get an agreement to prepare an assessment of the humanitarian condition in Iraq was blocked. (151)
In Resolution 1302 of June 8, 2000, the Council spoke of a “comprehensive report” to be prepared by a group of experts, but the US-UK insisted on language that other Council members understood as effectively ruling out Iraqi cooperation, (152) demanding that the mandate of the study exclude any mention of human rights or of the impact of sanctions. The US also rejected a proposal by other Council members that a report should be prepared based on information available outside Iraq.
The Council has ordered impact assessment studies of sanctions in the case of Liberia and Afghanistan. (153) The absence of such assessment in the case of Iraq appears as a gross procedural lapse with extremely serious consequences.

Substantive Human Rights Violations

The Council has a clear share of responsibility for the death and suffering of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians under sanctions. These deaths carry the clearest implication of a substantive violation, since the UN Human Rights Committee considers the right to life to be “the supreme right from which no derogation is permitted even in time of public emergency.” (154) Sanctions have also contributed to violations of the rights to health, education, and an adequate standard of living. The Council clearly cannot act in pursuit of international peace and security without causing some degree of inadvertent harm, but very large casualties, caused in such a routine way, cannot be accepted. The Council would thus appear to be in violation of rights guaranteed by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, and other solemn international agreements.

Iraqi children have suffered disproportionately under sanctions. Human rights law considers children uniquely vulnerable to abuse and therefore grants them special protections in the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Among other provisions, the Convention specifically recognises that “every child has the inherent right to life” and calls on all states “to ensure to the maximum extent possible the survival and development of the child” and “to take appropriate measures to diminish infant and child mortality.” (155) It is hard to think of a graver breach of child rights in modern history than the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children.

The Iraq government’s own human rights violations in no way excuse the Security Council for its violations. The Council remains always obligated by the UN Charter to “promote and encourage respect for human rights.” The human rights of individual Iraqis are not forfeited because of their government’s misconduct, particularly when these citizens have no voice in the decisions of the government. Iraq’s failure to comply completely with Security Council resolutions therefore does not give the Council license to disavow its independent obligations to respect the human rights of Iraqi civilians.

7.3 Humanitarian law

Even under the more permissive framework of humanitarian law, Security Council sanctions on Iraq violate well-established legal norms. The basic principles of the laws of war are those of distinction and proportionality. Under the principle of distinction, belligerents are required to distinguish between civilians and combatants at all times and to direct attacks only against military targets.(156) This is the fundamental principle of the laws of war. The corollary principle of proportionality is designed to ensure that attacks against military targets do not cause excessive civilian damage. The Geneva Conventions define the principle of proportionality as prohibiting any “attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects (...) which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.” (157) Sanctions are tantamount to acts of war and so should be subject to this restriction.

Indiscriminate weapons, which cannot be directed solely against military targets, by their very nature violate the principle of distinction. Comprehensive economic sanctions can also be considered as such an indiscriminate weapon, which two Secretary Generals have for good reason called a “blunt instrument.” (158) Such sanctions fail to target the real offenders and instead harm the weakest and most vulnerable members of society. Sanctions in Iraq thus clearly violate the principle of distinction under humanitarian law.

Sanctions also violate the principle of proportionality. (159) The Security Council originally re-imposed economic sanctions after the Gulf War with high expectations of successfully eliminating mass destruction weapons in Iraq. Initially the sanctions were proportional to the aim. But after substantial disarmament was achieved and the humanitarian crisis deepened, the judgement on proportionality must be revised. Many innocent lives continue to be claimed by the sanctions with scarcely any potential benefit.

Proportionality is a malleable and subjective standard, prone to manipulation by belligerents to justify civilian casualties. Nevertheless, the authoritative ICRC legal commentary on the laws of war sets out guidelines for interpretation:

A remote [military] advantage to be gained at some unknown time in the future would not be a proper consideration to weigh against civilian loss. (...) The advantage concerned should be substantial and relatively close. (...) There can be no question of creating conditions conducive to surrender by means of attacks which incidentally harm the civilian population.” (160)
The Iraq case illustrates why, contrary to conventional wisdom, comprehensive economic sanctions are not a humane alternative to war. Public opinion could never have tolerated a military campaign against Iraq that killed so many innocent children, especially not a war carried out in the name of the world’s people under the authority of an organization dedicated to defend human rights.
The case of Iraq underscores the need to clearly define legal constraints on the Security Council. The Council’s significant power to act in international affairs must be bounded by accepted principles of international law. For twelve years, the Security Council has maintained comprehensive sanctions without referring to its legal obligation to act in accordance with human rights and humanitarian principles.


Chapter 8 – Conclusion & Policy Recommendations
The international community must press the Security Council to honor its legal obligations in Iraq sanctions policy. World public opinion now recognizes comprehensive economic sanctions as a seriously flawed policy tool, a “blunt instrument” almost certain to do massive harm to innocent civilians. The Council itself no longer uses such sanctions, choosing to use exclusively targeted sanctions instead. But two Permanent Members have prevented the Council from reforming Iraq sanctions so as to meet the widely-agreed new standards.

When the Council first imposed sanctions on Iraq, its members may have reasonably believed that the sanctions would be effective and that the goal of disarmament was worth a few months of civilian suffering. Now, twelve years later, with clear evidence of negative consequences and with no further positive outcome to be expected, the Council can no longer excuse its inaction. The Council’s failure to lift the comprehensive economic sanctions is a breach of its humanitarian responsibilities and an abject failure to use the principles of proportionality.

In recent years, Council members have received many learned and thoughtful reports, setting forth the humanitarian crisis in Iraq, the flaws in the sanctions regime, and the international legal principles that should be applied. The Council cannot say that it is uninformed about the conditions on the ground or that it is unaware of the legal aspects of its responsibilities. Oil-for-Food sought to accommodate the strongest objections, by allowing Iraq to sell oil for the purchase of some humanitarian resources. But it was designed as a short term policy, and is subject to bureaucratic bottlenecks, manipulated by the pro-sanction powers, and throttled by US-imposed blocking and holds. The Goods Review List and associated new procedures under Resolution 1409 are far from sufficient as an improvement.

A number of UN agencies and organs have called on the Security Council to lift or deeply modify the sanctions. Several Secretary Generals have raised questions that pointed in this direction. Two respected UN humanitarian coordinators have resigned in protest, urging an end to the punitive sanctions. Scholars, journalists, religious leaders, NGOs, diplomats, health authorities, human rights organizations, parliamentarians and citizens have joined in a compelling call for change. A majority of Council members have long concluded that Iraq sanctions are a repugnant failure and world opinion has clearly mapped out the road towards legality and accountability:

Comprehensive economic sanctions must be lifted,

The UN “escrow account” must be eliminated,

Free trade (excepting military goods) must be re-established,

Foreign investments in Iraq must be permitted, and

Foreign assets of Iraq must be unfrozen so as to normalize its external economic relations
Clearly, though, such change will not be free of risk. The government of Iraq cannot be counted on to make benign and peaceful policy choices, or to automatically promote the well-being of its people. In this context
Robust weapons monitoring must be reintroduced, to insure full disarmament and to guarantee no future production programs for mass destruction weapons, and
Disarmament in Iraq must be complemented by regional approaches to disarmament, especially elimination of mass destruction weapons and weapons programs in other regional states.
The Government of Iraq must give firm assurances to the international community, as a part of reciprocal undertakings, that
It will renounce all plans to buy, build or use weapons of mass destruction and related delivery systems
It will cooperate fully with ongoing UN arms inspection arrangements
It will establish friendly and cooperative relations with neighboring countries
It will take all necessary steps to address the humanitarian emergency as soon as funds become available to do so
It will honor minority rights, including offering special status to the Kurdish areas, and it will take steps to honor its human rights obligations
If the government of Iraq fails to provide adequate means for inspection and arms control, in future, then:
Narrowly-targeted sanctions, including financial and travel penalties, should be directed at Iraq’s leaders,
Time limits must be part of the new sanctions regime,
Clear criteria for lifting must also be part of the new sanctions regime,
Regular humanitarian assessments must also be part of the new sanctions as well, so that the Council will be aware of their possible impact on the broader Iraqi population.
If Iraq is to return to normalcy, and if it is to be persuaded to agree to international accords, it must be free of constant military pressure, threats and intimidation. The Security Council’s decisions, not unilateral action by one or two powerful states, must prevail. In this framework:
“No-Fly zones” " must be eliminated and aerial threats and attacks halted, and
Unilateral military attacks, as a means towards “regime change,” must be ruled out as unacceptable and illegal.
Other efforts directed towards "regime change," including force build-ups, military aid to opposition forces, and covert destabilization and assassination campaigns must cease.
Security Council members must find the courage and the wisdom to move forward, to reflect at long last the Council’s compelling responsibilities and its accountability to the overwhelming majority of world opinion. For this reason, the Security Council should seek a wide-ranging agreement with the government of Iraq that ends comprehensive sanctions and threats of violence on the one hand while introducing on the other hand a program for securing Iraq’s physical and political renewal and its peaceful re-integration into the world community. In such a framework:
Emergency relief, to bring a speedy end to the human suffering, must be put in place, with the help of the international community,
Large-scale physical reconstruction, to build a new infrastructure for Iraq, must be set in motion, including foreign investments, and
Safeguards for minorities such as the Kurds must be introduced, including federative structures and possibly a UN presence to monitor and promote human rights in the post-sanctions era.
The Council has recently made great and impressive progress in East Timor, Sierra Leone, Ethiopia-Eritrea and Angola, each a very difficult and challenging task. A peaceful and constructive solution to the Iraq crisis is surely not beyond its grasp.



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Appendix I
Chronology of main events
1990
Aug 2 After months of tension, the Iraqi army invades Kuwait. The United Nations Security Council passes Resolution 660 condemning the Invasion and demanding Iraq's immediate and unconditional withdrawal.
Aug 3 Arab League calls for Iraq's withdrawal from Kuwait.
Aug 6 Council passes Resolution 661, imposing comprehensive sanctions on Iraq and establishes a committee (the 661 or Sanctions Committee) to monitor the sanctions.
Aug 12-15 Iraq offers two peace plans which are rejected by the US.
Aug 28 Jordan proposes a peace plan which is accepted by Iraq but rejected by the US.
Sep 19 Morocco proposes a peace plan which is rejected by the US.
Sep 24 France proposes a peace plan which is accepted by Iraq but rejected by the US.
Nov 22 Most expert witnesses to US Senate Armed Services Committee reject military option towards Iraq.
Nov 29
Security Council Resolution 678 authorizes use of force against Iraq if it has not withdrawn from Kuwait by 15 January 1991.
Nov 30 US proposes talks; Iraq accepts.
Dec 5 CIA director, William Webster tells US Congress that ``economic sanctions and the embargo against Iraq ... have dealt a serious blow to the Iraq economy. ... In late November, Baghdad cut civilian rations for the second time since the rationing program began ... In addition, services ranging from medical care to sanitation have been curtailed." Although sanctions are hurting Iraq's civilian economy, they are affecting the Iraqi military only at the margins.
1991
Jan 9 US-Iraq talks fail.
Jan 13 UN Secretary-General's talks with Iraq fail.
Jan 16 Air war begins, destroying much of Iraq's civilian infrastructure.
Jan 21 Iran protests scale of bombing.
Jan 29 French defence minister Chevènement resigns in protest against scale of bombing.
Feb 3 Pope John Paul II rejects the claim that the war against Iraq is a "just war."
Feb.28 War ends.
Mar 20 Ahtisaari Report to Security Council on humanitarian crisis in Iraq and Kuwait. "…Most means of modern life support have been destroyed or rendered tenuous." "Sanctions in respect of food supplies should immediately be removed." No remedy to humanitarian need, "without dealing with the underlying need for energy."
Apr 3 Resolution 687 begins cease-fire, establishes UN Special Commission on weapons, extends sanctions by tying them to Iraq's weapons. UK ambassador Sir David Hannay states in the Council that "it will in fact prove impossible for Iraq to rejoin the community of civilized nations while Saddam Hussein remains in power."
Apr 5. Resolution 688 condemns "the repression of the Iraqi civilian population" in the ensuing civil war.
Mid-Apr US, UK and France organize a "no-fly" zone in northern Iraq, while Operation Provide Comfort carves out an autonomous zone in a large part of the Kurdish areas.
Jul 17 UN mission to Iraq led by Sadruddin Aga Khan concludes that Iraq needs $22 billion that year to provide civilian services at pre-war levels.
Aug 15 Resolution 706 acknowledges the Sadruddin Aga Khan Report and calls for oil sales not to exceed $1.6 billion over 6 months to be placed in escrow account, deducting 30% for a Compensation Commission, plus UNSCOM and other international obligations, leaving less than 1/3 of the Report's recommended amount for humanitarian aid.
Sep 19 Resolution 712 proposes that Iraq be allowed $1.6 billion oil sales over six months, of which $900 million would be available for civilian needs, disregarding the Secretary General's request that the cap be raised.
1992
Feb 1 Iraq rejects 706 and 712.
Feb 5 Council declares that Iraq "therefore bears full responsibility for their humanitarian problems."
August US, UK and France establish no-fly zone in southern Iraq
1993
Jan 13 US, UK and France attack Iraq with aircraft and cruise missiles. US and UK continue air strikes on January 17 and June 26.
1995
Jan UN Secretary General Boutros Ghali issues a report calling sanctions a "blunt instrument"
Apr 14 Resolution 986 allows Iraqi government $2 billion in oil sales every six months. 13% of total available funds set aside for UN use in the northern governorates. Sanctions Committee must review and approve all supplies purchased through escrow account.
1996
May 12 US Ambassador to the UN Madeleine Albright, in response to claims of half a million child deaths in sanctioned Iraq, replies: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price - we think the price is worth it."
May 20 Iraq is no longer able to provide survival sustenance for its civilian population. Iraqi government and UN reach agreement on implementing Resolution 986.
Sep 3-4 In Operation Desert Strike, US fires cruise missiles at Iraqi targets
Dec 10 First oil sales start, beginning the Oil-for-Food program. It has since been renewed mostly in six month phases.
1998
Feb 20 Oil-for-Food oil sales cap increased to $5.256 billion per six month phase.
Dec UNSCOM's credibility is undermined by evidence that staff members seconded to the agency by the United States have compromised the independence of the agency and engaged in espionage and covert action to overthrow the Iraq government.
Dec 15 UN weapons inspectors withdraw from Iraq due to impending aerial attacks by the United States and the UK.
Dec 16-19 Operation Desert Fox air campaign by US and UK
1999
Mar 30 Security Council panel report finds that Iraq had ``experienced a shift from relative affluence to massive poverty'' and predicted that ``the humanitarian situation in Iraq will continue to be a dire one in the absence of a sustained revival of the Iraqi economy, which in turn cannot be achieved solely through remedial humanitarian efforts.''
Aug 12 UNICEF estimates that an additional half million children under five who would be alive under normal circumstances had died in Iraq between 1991 and 1998.
Dec 17 Resolution 1284 offers improvements in Oil-for-Food, although less than those recommended by the Security Council panel, and expresses its intention to suspend sanctions with the ``fundamental objective of improving the humanitarian situation'' in Iraq. The oil sales cap is removed and some items are allowed into Iraq with automatic Security Council approval.
2000
Jun 8 Resolution 1302 establishes a team of "independent experts to prepare by November 26, 2000 a comprehensive report and analysis of the humanitarian situation". Iraqi government does not allow the team to enter its territory. Security Council rejects the alternative of a report based on UN agency information and other reliable external sources.
Dec 5 Resolution 1330 further expands lists of humanitarian items. Compensation fund reduced to 25% from 30% of oil revenues with the additional resources targeted to vulnerable groups.
2001
May-Jun UK, French, and Russian draft resolutions propose various new approaches. The UK proposes a Goods Review List of potential dual-use items and land-based border monitoring of Iraq trade. Objections by Russia and by Iraq, as well as differences among Permanent Members blocks Council action.
Jun 6 One month extension of Oil-for-Food under previous conditions.
Jul 4 Lacking agreement with Iraq, five month extension of existing Oil-for- Food.
Nov 29 Oil-for-Food program extended by six months in Resolution 1382. Resolution proposes a Goods Review List to be adopted in May.
2002
Jan 29 US President George W. Bush declares Iraq to be part of an "axis of evil" in his State of the Union message to Congress. Thereafter, reports abound of plans for a large-scale US military attack on Iraq.
Feb 26 OIP Director Benon Sevan warns the Security Council of a "financial crisis" in the humanitarian program due to the dispute over oil pricing.
May 14 Resolution 1409 adopts Goods Review List.
Aug 1 Iraq Foreign Minister Naji Sabri writes to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan suggesting that Iraq may be ready to allow arms inspectors back into Iraq, but scepticism remains that inspections will resume




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APPENDIX II
“The Future of Sanctions”A Report of The Select Committee on International Development, of the UK House of Commons, 27 January 2000. Excerpt…Comprehensive Economic Sanctions — Iraq (paras 17-42)

There is a clear consensus that the humanitarian and developmental situation in Iraq has deteriorated seriously since the imposition of comprehensive economic sanctions whilst, at the same time, sanctions have clearly failed to hurt those responsible for past violations of international law as Saddam Hussein and his ruling elite continue to enjoy a privileged existence.

Not all this humanitarian distress is the direct result of the sanctions regime. It appears that Saddam Hussein is quite prepared to manipulate the sanctions regime and the exemptions scheme to his own ends, even if that involves hurting ordinary Iraqi people. This does not, however, entirely excuse the international community from a part in the suffering of Iraqis. A sanctions regime which relies on the good faith of Saddam Hussein is fundamentally flawed.

Whatever the wisdom of the original imposition of sanctions, careful thought must now be given as to how to move from the current impasse without giving succour to Saddam Hussein and his friends. Any move away from comprehensive sanctions should go hand in hand with measures designed to target the real culprits, not the poor of Iraq but their leadership. Possibil-ities include a concerted attempt to target and either freeze or sequester the assets of Saddam Hussein and those connected to him, and the indictment of Saddam Hussein and his close associates as war criminals.

We find it difficult to believe that there will be a case in the future where the UN would be justified in imposing comprehensive economic sanctions on a country. In an increasingly interdependent world such sanctions cause significant suffering. However carefully exemptions are planned, the fact is that comprehensive economic sanctions only further concentrate power in the hands of the ruling elite. The UN will lose credibility if it advocates the rights of the poor whilst at the same time causing, if only indirectly, their further impoverishment.




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Footnotes
(1) The sanctions, imposed under Resolution 661, barred imports and exports, except medical and humanitarian supplies and they also forbade foreign investments. Foreign assets of Iraq were also largely frozen. Resolution 986 (1995) allowed for exceptions to the sanctions for the export of oil and the import of approved humanitarian supplies, eventually implemented in 1996.
(2) The sanctions, as redefined under Resolution 687, seek to eliminate Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction and delivery systems; they also seek return of prisoners of war and property taken during the Gulf War, they establish the principle of compensation for war damage, they insist that Iraq’s international debts be honored and they demand that Iraq refrain from terrorism.

(3) This issue is discussed further below, in chapter 6, with a number of opinions cited.

(4) The four banned categories are: nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, biological weapons, and missile delivery systems. For an assessment by the Council itself, see the reports of 1999 in S/1999/356. In August 2000, US Undersecretary of State Thomas Pickering told journalists that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein “has not, at least in so far as we can tell, reconstituted his weapons of mass destruction.” (transcript of digital video conference, August 3, 2000, source US Department of State). For a discussion of this issue see chap. 6.4 below.

(5) Security Council Resolution 1284 (1999) added additional criteria to those specified in Resolution 687 (1991) and all criteria remained vague. Many at the UN have spoken of “moving the goalposts,” but the metaphor of precise goalposts is itself misleading, since criteria have never been clear.

(6) See verbatim transcript of the Council meeting of November 19, 1999. Van Walsum said his frustrated delegation was beginning to refer to the Council’s permanent members as the “Hereditary Five.”

(7) For a discussion of the early optimism about sanctions, see Thomas G. Weiss, David Cortright, George A. Lopez and Larry Minear, Political Gain and Civilian Pain (Oxford, 1997).

(8) See especially section 5.2.

(9) A case an be made that Iraq sanctions, first imposed response to armed aggression, should be subject to the Geneva Conventions.

(10) United Nations document A/50/60, Supplement to an Agenda for Peace, January 1995.

(11) After Iraq, the Council imposed two further comprehensive economic sanctions – on the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Resolution 757of May 30, 1992)(suspended November, 1995); and on Haiti (Resolution 917 of May 6, 1994)(lifted September 1994). For well over six years, the Iraq sanctions have been the only sanctions of this type in force. The Council may be moving towards (renewable) time-limited sanctions. Such limits reduce the likelihood of sanctions lasting for a very long period.

(12) Press Release, “Secretary-General Reviews Lessons Learned During ‘Sanctions Decade’ In Remarks To International Peace Academy Seminar,” April 17, 2000, SG/SM/7360.

(13) UN document S/22366, 20/3/91, paragraph 8.

(14) Report to the Secretary-General on humanitarian needs in Kuwait and Iraq in the immediate post-crisis environment by a mission to the area led by Martti Ahtisaari, Under-Secretary-General for Administration and Management, March 20, 1991, paragraph 9, available online. http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/reports/S22366.html

(15) UN document S/22799, July 17, 1991, paragraph 29.

(16) Report to the Secretary-General dated July 15, 1991 on humanitarian needs in Iraq prepared by a mission led by the Executive Delegate of the Secretary- General for humanitarian assistance in Iraq, S/22799, July 17, 1991, available online at http://www.cam.ac.uk/societies/casi/info/undocs/s22799.html .

(17) Ibid.

(18) UN Security Council Resolution 706 specified a ceiling of $1.6 billion worth of oil sales every six months. From that amount, deductions for the Compensation Commission and UN expenses had to be made, equalling about one third. For an analysis of this period, see Ian Johnstone, Aftermath of the Gulf War: An Assessment of UN Action. Occasional Paper of the International Peace Academy (Boulder, 1994).

(19) On this date, a Memorandum of Understanding was signed between the UN Secretariat and the Government of Iraq.

(20) For a detailed discussion of the Oil-for-Food Program and its deficiencies, see Chapter 5 below. Initially, Iraq was severely restricted in its oil sales, but, as we will show below, the program had more fundamental flaws.

(21) WHO, March 1996, The Health conditions of the population in Iraq since the Gulf Crisis: Section 4, Impact on Child malnutrition.

(22) See: UNICEF, “The Status of Children and Women in Iraq: A Situation Report,” September 1995; WFP, News Release: "Time running out for Iraqi children," September 26, 1995; CESR, “Unsanctioned Suffering,” May 1996, available online at http://www.cesr.org/text%20files/sanct.PDF; UNHCR, “Humanitarian situation in Iraq: Sub-Commission decision 1997/119,” UN Document E/CN.4/SUB.2/DEC/1997/119, August 28, 1997; FAO Press Release, “FAO Warns of Danger to Near East if Outbreak of Animal Diseases in Iraq is not Contained - Situation Could Threaten Near East Food Security,” February 10, 1999.

(23) See for example the State Department’s web site on Iraq sanctions and spokesman James Rubin’s comments on the television program “Paying the Price: Killing the Children of Iraq” by John Pilger, first broadcast on ITV in the UK on March 6, 2000.

(24) Graca Michel, Impact of Armed Conflict on Children A/51/306, annex, par 128.

(25) “The Relationship Between Sanctions and Respect for Economic, Social and Cultural Rights,” UN Committee on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, E/C.12/1997/8.

(26) Ibid.

(27) For details on Oil-for-Food, see Chapter 5 below.

(28) This text, known as a “non-paper,” was never issued as a publication of the Security Council. For the full text see http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/sanction/committee-chairs/1998/1030papr.htm.

(29) See Barton Gellman, “U.S. Spied on Iraq Via U.N.,” Washington Post, March 2, 1999.

(30) Republican members of Congress charged US President Bill Clinton with having launched these attacks to draw attention away from his impeachment hearings. Such charges demonstrate how very political and subjective the Iraq issue had become.

(31) S/1999/92.

(32) Report of the second panel established pursuant to the note by the president of the Security Council S/1999/100 concerning the current humanitarian situation in Iraq, UN document S/1999/356, 15, para 43.

(33) Ibid., para 58.

(34) From a report on a meeting with a delegation from Physicians for Social Responsibility on April 5, 1999, available at www.scn.org/ccpi/UN andUSreports.html.

(35) Mohamed M Ali and Iqbal H Shah, “Sanctions and childhood mortality in Iraq”, The Lancet 2000; 355: 1851–57. See Section 4.3 for a discussion of the debate about sanctions and mortality. The “autonomous region” refers to the North, where a separate and better-funded program was in place.

(36) The Adverse Consequences of Economic Sanctions for the Enjoyment of Human Rights, E/CN.4/Sub.2/2000/33).

(37) The US ambassador, George Moose, made his comment when the report was being considered by a UN body in August 2000. See http://www.us-mission.ch/press2000/0817moose.htm.

(38) “Special Topics on Social Conditions In Iraq, An Overview Submitted By The UN System To The Security Council Panel On Humanitarian Issues,” Baghdad, March 24, 1999.

(39) UN document S/1999/356, Annex II, “Report of the second panel established pursuant to the note by the president of the Security Council of January 30, 1999 (S/1999/100), concerning the current humanitarian situation in Iraq”, March 30, 1999, paragraph 25.

(40) Though the Council lifted the cap, it was clear that Iraq could not produce or sell much more oil, because the ban on investments and the holds on oil equipment contracts left Iraqi oil facilities in bad disrepair.

(41) For another interpretive overview of Iraq sanctions, see David Cortright and George Lopez, Sanctions and the Search for Security, (New York, 2002), ch. 2, “The Iraq Quagmire.”

(42) Select committees are all-party committees, not subject to party discipline. It would appear that the UK government has not commanded a majority in the Commons on this issue for some time and maintains the policy only by imposing party discipline on its recalcitrant backbenchers in regular parliamentary votes.

(43) United Kingdom, House of Commons, Select Committee on International Development, Second Report, Executive Summary, para 17 (For a more extensive quotation from this report, see Appendix II).

(44) Reuters, “Top UN Official Leaves Iraq, says programme failed,” 29 March 2000.

(45) Open Letter to Mr. Peter Hain, The Guardian, January 3, 2001.

(46) Press Release, “Secretary-General Reviews Lessons Learned During ‘Sanctions Decade’ In Remarks To International Peace Academy Seminar,” April 17, 2000, SG/SM/7360 The conference was largely sponsored by the Canadian government.

(47) Speech by Lloyd Axworthy to the UN Security Council, April 17, 2000, text as posted on the Canadian Mission web site at www.un.int/canada/html/s-17apr2000axworthy.htm.

(48) Interview with al-Hayat daily, August 1, 2000, text from the web site of the French embassy in Washington at www.info-france-usa.org/news/statmnts/2000/iraq0108.asp.

(49) See Dilip Hiro, “Outside Powers,” in The Longest War (New York, 1991). Though France, Germany and the Soviet Union were the main arms suppliers, the United States and Britain also quietly provided arms and related military assistance. See Mark Phythian, Arming Iraq: How the U.S. and Britain Secretly Built Saddam’s War Machine (Boston, 1997).

(50) For an account of the war, see especially Hiro, op. cit. and also Efraim Karsh, The Iran-Iraq War (Houndmills, 1987), and Charles Tripp, Iran and Iraq at War (Boulder, 1991). Iraq received a large amount of war financing from the oil rich states of the Gulf and as a result purchased a lot of very expensive military hardware.

(51) For policy in Washington, see for example Samantha Power, “A Problem From Hell “ (New York, 2002), 171-245. Iraqi forces used chemical weapons in battle approximately 195 times between 1983 and 1988, and also against Iraqi Kurdish civilians, including the notorious case of Halabja, but US military and economic support continued. See also Human Rights Watch, Human Rights in Iraq (New Haven, 1990), 113ff.

(52) New York Times, August 16, 1990.

(53) For an account of this war, see John Bulloch and Harvey Morris: Saddam’s War (London, 1991) and Dilip Hiro: From Desert Storm to Desert Shield (New York, 1992).

(54) Peter Sluglett and Marion Farouq Sluglett, “Iraq,” in Joel Krieger (ed.), Oxford Companion to Politics of the World, p. 435.

(55) The bombing campaign dropped over 88,000 tons of explosives through the course of six weeks – more explosives than were dropped by the US in the Vietnam war. This comparison was made by Parker Payson, “Figure it Out” in the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs in 1991, drawing on Pentagon and Department of Defense figures. http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0491/9104055.htm . See also the Federation of American Scientists information: www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/desert_storm.htm .

(56) Transcript of President Bush Press Conference, quoted in Washington Post, February 6, 1991, A21.

(57) Quoted in Barton Gellman, “Allied Air War Struck Broadly in Iraq; Officials Acknowledge Strategy Went Beyond Purely Military Targets,” Washington Post, June 23, 1991. See also Thomas J. Nagy, “The Secret Behind the Sanctions: how the U.S. intentionally destroyed Iraq’s water supply,” The Progressive (September, 2001).

(58) For an excellent discussion of weak and contradictory justifications of the no-fly policy, see Sarah Graham-Brown, Sanctioning Saddam: the politics of intervention in Iraq (London, 1999), 107-121.

(59) George Bush, Voice of the Gulf, February 15, 1991, quoted in CNN special: www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/gulf.war/unfinished/war/index2.htm

(60) Turkish aircraft attacking Kurds in the northern zone operated from the same Incirlik Air Base that the US aircraft operated from in their allegedly protective mission. On several occasions, Turkish ground forces crossed the border to attack Kurds, including a force of 10,000 in December 2000. For a good overview of no-fly, see Sarah Graham-Brown, “No-Fly Zones: rhetoric and real intentions,” MERIP Press Information Note No. 49 (February 20, 2001).

(61) The Federation of American Scientists web site provides considerable information on these and subsequent military operations in Iraq.

(62) The United States has also built up permanent basis in the Gulf region and it has pre-positioned large amount of supplies and military equipment, mostly directed at Iraq. See Greg Jaffe, “Desert Maneuvers: Pentagon boosts U.S. military presence in the Gulf,” Wall Street Journal, June 24, 2002.

(63) William Arkin, “Desert Fox Delivery, Precision Undermined its Purpose,” Washington Post, January 17, 1999.

(64) Enlarged rules of engagement meant that US-UK warplanes operated under fewer restrictions and could “engage” Iraqi planes and targets in a much wider set of circumstances. As journalists reported, pilots understood this to mean that they could taunt Iraqi forces and provoke confrontations.

(65) For a revealing account of US operations in the northern no-fly zone, see Thomas E. Ricks, “Containing Iraq: A Forgotten War,” Washington Post, October 25, 2000. Ricks reports that in 16,000 sorties since the beginning of 1997 [to October, 2000], air force pilots have launched more than 1,000 bombs and missiles aginst 250 targets in northern Iraq. The pilots he quotes are very sceptical about the enterprise. No-fly enforcement also has proved very costly.

(66) “Impact of air strikes on UN operations in Iraq, January 1, 1999 – September 15, 1999”, prepared by the Humanitarian Coordinator for Iraq, Baghdad, September 26, 1999. Von Sponeck acted on the grounds that the air strikes had humanitarian consequences that fell within his mandate. He resigned less than a year later, under enormous pressure from the US and the UK.

(67) United Nations Press Release, SC/6833 http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2000/20000324.sc6833.doc.html .

(68) U.S. Department of State, “Saddam Hussein's Iraq”, September 13, 1999 (updated 3/24/00) http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/iraq99.htm .

(69) The State Department speaks of “multi-billion” dollar projects but this is not supported by reliable evidence.

(70) Patrick Clawson, “A Look at Sanctioning Iraq: The Numbers Don’t Lie, Saddam Does,” The Washington Post, February 27, 2000.

(71) Associated Press, August 17, 2000.

(72) Robertson first made the charge in a House of Commons debate on January 25, 1999 and repeated it in “Bombing Iraq, Letter,” The Times (London), March 6, 1999.

(73) Report of the Secretary-General Pursuant to Paragraph 6 of Security Council Resolution 1210 (1998), S/1998/187, February 22, 1999, available online at: http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/reports/90day5.htm .

(74) Tun Myat, “Press Briefing by UN Coordinator in Iraq,” October 19, 2000, http://www.un.org/News/briefings/docs/2000/20001019.myatbriefing.doc.html .

(75) Security Council Committee established by resolution 661 (1990), Statement by Benon V. Sevan, Executive Director of the Iraq Programme, At the 221st meeting of the Committee, held on Thursday, July 12, 2001, http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/latest/BVS120701.htm . See also his statement on the number of ‘holds’, criticising: “the very large number of applications placed on hold, in particular those concerning electricity, water and sanitation, transport and telecommunications, which impact all sectors. The same applies also for the very large number of holds placed on applications for spare parts and equipment in the oil sector which is the only source of revenues for the programme.” United Nations Office of the Iraq Programme, Oil-for-Food, Briefing by Benon V. Sevan, Executive Director of the Iraq Programme, on Thursday, April 20, 2000, http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/latest/benonsc20apr00.htm .

(76) Sevan raises this point in a number of his briefings.

(77) John Maynard Keynes’ famous book The Economic Consequences of the Peace (London, 1919), written immediately after participating in the conference at Versailles, provides a cautionary tale.

(78) The information in this paragraph draws heavily from Raad Alkadiri, “The Iraqi Klondike: oil and regional trade,” Middle East Report, No. 220 (Fall, 2001), 30-33.

(79) Current estimates of smuggling range from $1.5 to $3 billion per year. The government of Iraq would participate in only part of the smuggling. Though far less than the Oil-for-Food program, it is a lucrative market.

(80) Conversation with the authors, June 5, 2002.

(81) Ibid.

(82) See, for example, Daniel Yergin, The Prize: the epic quest for oil, money and power (New York, 1991).

(83) In order of size these firms are: Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch-Shell, British Petroleum-Amoco, Chevron-Texaco, and Total Fina Elf. Royal Dutch Shell is often described as a British-Dutch company, while Total Fina Elf is sometimes described as a French-Italian company.

(84) Major shareholders in IPC were: Shell, BP, Esso (later Exxon), Mobil, and CFP, the French national company.

(85) For an account of this period, see Joe Stork, Middle East Oil and the Energy Crisis(New York, 1975), 188-194. Since 1918, France had considered Iraq to be its main source of international oil reserves and its main means to gain parity with the Anglo-American companies (see Yergin, op. cit., 188-191).

(86) See Michael Tanzer, “Oil and Military Power in the Middle East and the Crimean Sea Region, The Black World Today (web site), two parts, February 28 and Mar 6, 2002.

(87) From US Department of Energy, International Energy Outlook, Table 13.

(88) Text as posted at www.chevrontexaco.com/news/archive/chevron_speech/1998/98-11-05.asp At the time, Condoleeza Rice, currently US National Security Advisor, was a board member of Chevron and one of the company’s supertankers was named after her. Though it is tempting to insist on the many oil and energy industry connections of the Bush administration, including the President and Vice President Cheney, oil issues have consistently had a heavy influence on US foreign policy, regardless of party or personalities.

(89) Testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee, April 13, 1999.

(90) See Michael T. Klare, Resource Wars: the new landscape of global conflict (New York, 2001), esp. ch. 3, “Oil Conflict in the Persian Gulf.”

(91) “Informal consultations of the Security Council held on Monday, November 26, 2001, Introductory Statement by Benon V. Sevan, Executive Director of the Office of the Iraq Programme.

(92) UN report S/2000/1132, page 2 point 5.

(93) The Center-South per capita percentage rose to 69% with Resolution 1330 of December 5, 2000, which reduced the deduction for the Compensation Fund from 30% to 25%.

(94) These and subsequent data on sanctions trade are from the Office of the Iraq Programme web site (www.un.org/Depts/oip). See “Weekly Update,” 13-19 July, 2002.

(95) OIP site.

(96) See Paul Conlon, United Nations Sanctions Management: A Case Study of the Iraq Sanctions Committee, 1990-1994 Procedural Aspects of International Law Monograph Series, Vol. 24 (Ardsley, NY, 1995).

(97) See Office of the Iraq Programme, weekly update, www.un.org/Depts/oip/latest/wu020521.

(98) Office of the Iraq Programme, Oil-for-Food, December 18, 2001, Weekly Update, December 8-14, 2001, http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/background/latest/wu011218.html .

(99) Ibid.

(100) Briefing by Benon V. Sevan to the Security Council, July 22, 1999.

(101) Oil spares gained Council approval only on June 19, 1998 with Resolution 1175 that allowed $300 million in spares imports per six-month phase. The Council doubled this sum to $600 million with Resolution 1293 of March 31, 2000. But US holds continued to block most important oilfield imports.

(102) The UN and many independent experts have pointed out that the Iraqi oil industry is very seriously dilapidated and that production under such unfavourable condition depressurizes the reservoirs and may make future production impossible in these fields. See, for example, Middle East Institute [Washington, DC], “Iraqi Oil After Sanctions,” February 29, 2000 http://www.mideasti.org/html/020900b.html .

(103) Ibid.

(104) Briefing by Benon V. Sevan to the Security Council, February 26, 2002.

(105) Secretary General's report to the Security Council, S/2001/505, para 67.

(106) See several sectoral briefings of UN agencies working in Iraq to the Security Council, in the fall of 2001.

(107) The GRL circulated to delegations at the time of the adoption of Resolution 1409 was 302 pages in length, but the GRL that we have accessed on the OIP web site and dated May 16, 2002 is 486 pages in length. Since each page lists many categories of items, tens or even hundreds of thousands of items could be covered by the list.

(108) As of December 31, 2001, data from OIP.

(109) Statement by Benon V. Sevan, Executive Director of the Office of the Iraq Programme to the 661 Committee of the Security Council, April 20, 2000.

(110) “Weekly Update,” 20-26 July,l 2002, Office of the Iraq Programme.

(111) The Commission posts extensive information about its work at www.uncc.ch.

(112) No current estimates for the reconstruction needs of Iraq are available. The report on the state of the oil industry calls for $1.3 billion annual operating expenditure only, not counting capital expenditure. Other damaged sectors in Iraq are equally capital-intensive. See http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/reports/oilexpertsreport.pdf (p.35).

(113) See Alain Gresh “L’Iraq paiera: enquête sure une commission occulte,” Le Monde Diplomatique, October, 2000, pp. 1, 16-77.

(114) House of Commons, Hansard, March 24, 2000, column 1291. Hain made this false point on a number of other occasions, including a speech to the Royal Institute of International Affairs on November 7, 2000.

(115) Alastair Kirk and Gary Sawdon, “Understanding Kurdish Livelihoods in Northern Iraq: Final Report,” Save the Children (London, 2002). The study was based on a household economy study carried out by Save the Children during 2001.

(116) FAO ibid, p. 17.

(117) FAO ibid, page 10.

(118) “Urgent Need for Health and Immunisation Interventions”, UNICEF Humanitarian Action, Iraq, Donor Update, July 11, 2001, http://www.unicef.org/emerg/Iraq11Jul01.PDF .

(119) UNICEF and Ministry of Health of Iraq, Child and Maternal Mortality Survey 1999 Preliminary Report (July, 1999) and UNICEF, Questions and Answers (August 16, 1999).

(120) Richard Garfield, “Morbidity and Mortality among Iraqi Children from 1990 to 1998, Assessing the Impact of Economic Sanctions.” Occasional Paper of the Joan B. Kroc Institute of International Peace Studies, University of Notre Dame (1999).

(121) Communication with the authors, April 8, 2002.

(122) FAO report, op. cit.

(123) CBS Television, May 12, 1996. With thanks to Eric Herring and his outstanding paper “Between Iraq and a Hard Place, Review of International Studies (January, 2002), vol. 28, no. 1

(124) Robert A. Pape, “Why Economic Sanctions Do Not Work,” International Security, Vol. 22, No. 2 (Fall, 1997).

(125) The Interlaken Process focused on financial sanctions while the Bonn-Berlin Process focused on arms embargoes, while the Stockholm Process seeks an integrative approach.

(126) US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Hearing, “The Fiscal Year 2002 Foreign Operations Budget,” March 8, 2001.

(127) See “Cosmetic Surgery,” The Economist, May 16, 2002; “US unfreezes Russian contracts in oil for food program with Iraq,” Alexander’s Gas & Oil Connections, News & Trends: Middle East, April 4, 2002.

(128) According to the Washington Post (July 6, 2001), the US had lifted blocks on $80 million of Chinese contracts in June 2001, at an earlier stage of the negotiations.

(129) The GRL negotiations took place only between the US and Russia, with even the UK reportedly excluded. The United States apparently rejected a special deal of lifted holds for France and China.

(130) Security Council Humanitarian Panel Report, March 1999 http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/panelrep.html .

(131) These proposals set out model Security Council resolutions, recommend a UN sanctions unit, etc. The entire exercise has aimed at targeting leaders, their personal finances, travel and arms supplies. The reports are posted on the web.

(132) New York Times, May 15, 2002. The Economist, “Cosmetic Surgery” May 16, 2002.

(133) UN Oil Overseers Report, March 14, 2002 notes the premium level. Estimates of the kickback have appeared in the Financial Times (June 7), Middle East Economic Survey (July 1 and 8), and Reuters (July 16).

(134) UN Oil Overseers Report, March 14, 2002. For some comment on the pricing issue see David Cortright, Alistair Millar and George A. Lopez, Sanctions, Inspections and Containment (Goshen, Indiana, 2002)

(135) Statement by Benon V. Sevan, Executive Director of the Iraq Programme at the Informal Consultations of the Security Council, February 26, 2002 (as posted on the OIP web site).

(136) “Weekly Update,” 20-26 July, 2002, Office of the Iraq Programme web site.

(137) Not surprisingly, the Russians took the most vocal position. See, for instance, “In Connection with problems in implementing UN humanitarian program for Iraq,” Press release of the Government of the Russian Federation, June 17, 2002. Many other, more disinterested delegations, opposed firmly but quietly the US-UK stance.

(138) The New York Times quoted a US National Security spokesman as dating the regime-change policy to the mid-1990s: “Our policy remains the same. It has been the same since 1995 and that is ‘regime change’.” (August 3, 2002). But evidence suggests that regime-change has been official policy since 1991.

(139) State of the Union Address, January 29, 2002.

(140) Scott Ritter, a member of the UN disarmament team in Iraq, has argued that while every single item was not accounted for by the UNSCOM monitors, Iraq was found to be “qualitatively” disarmed, that is, “the elimination of a meaningful, viable capability to produce or employ” nuclear or chemical-biological weapons. See “Redefining Iraq’s Obligation: The Case for Qualitative Disarmament of Iraq,” Arms Control Today (June, 2000).

(141) Unclassified Report to Congress on the Acquisition of Technology Relating to Weapons of Mass Destruction and Advanced Conventional Munitions, January 1 through June 30 2001.

(142) On July 5, the New York Times reported that European governments believe that the evidence for Iraq’s possession of mass destruction weapons remains “murky” (European intelligence sources have in fact been saying that no clear evidence for such programs currently exists.) A month later the Times concluded from Congressional hearings that “the United States simply does not know” how advanced Iraq’s weapons programs may be.” (August 3, 2002).

(143) Recent attacks on the arms control record of UNMOVIC head Hans Blix (as first reported in the Washington Post) suggests that Paul Wolfowitz and others in the Bush administration fear UN inspections that would determine Iraq to be free of weapons of mass destruction.

(144) ‘The Purposes of the United Nations are (...) to achieve international cooperation in (...) promoting and encouraging respect for human rights (...)’ (article 1(3)). ‘The United Nations shall promote universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all ...’ (Article 55(c)).

(145) See Mohammed Bedjaoui, The New World Order and the Security Council (Dordrecht, 1994) for an extensive review of the arguments from a legal scholar who believes that the Council is not above the law and even that its decisions should be reviewable by the World Court. A well-known World Court opinion by Justice Lauterpacht (1993 L.C.J. 325, p. 440) argues that the Council’s work is obviously subject to the limits imposed by international humanitarian law.

(146) IASC Statement S/1998/147; Eric Hoskins, The Impact of Sanctions: a study of UNICEF’s perspective (New York, 1998); Bossyut Report: The Adverse Consequences of Economic Sanctions on the Enjoyment of Human Rights, E/CN.4/Sub.2/2000/33.

(147) Background Paper prepared by the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights for the meeting of the Executive Committee on Humanitarian Affairs, September 5, 2000.

(148) For the GIIS event, see Vera Gowlland-Debbas, United Nations Sanctions and International Law (The Hague, 2001).

(149) Every major human rights treaty derives from and grounds itself in the principles of the United Nations, as made explicit in its Preamble or Statement of Principles.

(150) Report of the Secretary General, September 4, 1991, S/23006, 15.

(151) Open letter to Mr. Peter Hain, published in the Guardian, January 3, 2001.

(152) See paragraph 18 of Resolution 1302 (8 June 2000).

(153) For Liberia: UN Document S/2001/939. For Afghanistan: UN Document S/2001/1215.

(154) UN Human Rights Committee, General Comment 6/16 (July 27, 1982).

(155) Articles 6 and 24, ‘States Parties recognize the right of the child to the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of health (...)’ and they ‘shall pursue full implementation of this right and, in particular, shall take appropriate measures (...) to diminish infant and child mortality’ (Ibid.)

(156) Additional Protocol to the Geneva Convention of August 12, 1949, Relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol 1) of June 8, 1977, article 51 (5) (b).

(157) Article 51 (5)(b), Protocol 1, Additional to the Geneva Convention, June 8, 1977.

(158) See e.g. Boutros Boutros-Ghali in Supplement To An Agenda For Peace: ibid, para 70.

(159) For a much more extensive argument, see Thérèse O’Donnell, Iraq and the Proportionality of UN Sanctions After Ten Years A report compiled for Save the Children (London, 2000) (unpublished).

(160) Ibid.



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Principal contributors to this report are: Richard Morran, Roger Normand, James Paul, John Rempel and Christoph Wilcke.

With thanks for extensive and helpful comments from: Gerard McHugh, Colin Rowat, Hans von Sponeck and Joe Stork.

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Message Number 128909

Re: egoscue method for chronic pain and body aches? View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 9/05/03 at 20:29

This information was cut and pasted from an online publication called "Dynamic Chiropractic". I know nothing about it, but found it on a broad search - but I have read various criticisms of Dr. Barrett who is the retired psychiatrist behind Quackwatch over the years. I think he has done some good and I think a VERY healthy strain of skepticism is VERY good, but that also includes being skeptical of Quackwatch because not everything they say holds water. He does seem to have a knee-jerk negative reaction to anything but the most traditional, conventional medicine/M.D. type. Still, I repeat, he has done some good and there is a place for a Quackwatch, most assuredly. I was unaware he had "flagged" Egoscue and Egoscue Method. It seems kind of unfair, don't you think, to "flag" something without citing your reasons for concern or proof of "quackery"? Egoscue has been around for quite a while and was a 'brick and mortar' operation for years before doing anything online. I don't know - it just seems like a cheap shot without backing up what is, in effect, innuendo created by this "flagging". Maybe Quackwatch will publish proven positions against Egoscue, but until they do, why do they taint someone?
Anyway, here is the article from the D.C. publication for what it's worth:
(and I think anything founded by Norman Mailer, even The Village Voice, is wide open to criticism! IMHO)

The Village Voice, a weekly newspaper that symbolized the "new journalism" when it was founded in New York City in 1955 by Dan Wolf, Ed Fancher and Norman Mailer, still represents an alternative media voice in U.S. journalism. The award-winning publication, with the largest circulation of any weekly newspaper in the U.S. (250,000), continues in its iconoclastic way to report on the cultural and political trends that shape the nation.
Most everyone is aware of the cultural shift toward "alternative" forms of health care. In 1997, an estimated 83 million Americans visited an alternative provider at least once during the year; there were 628,825,000 visits to alternative care providers, compared to only 385,919,000 visits to all primary care physicians.1

Coinciding with the rise in visits to alternative care providers is the increasing number of people using the internet for health-related information. In June, the Wall Street Journal reported that nearly 40 percent of all American adults on line, roughly 22 million, searched for health information on the internet last year.

Donna Ladd, writing for the Village Voice, took up just this issue in the June 23-29 issue.2 Her article begins by relating the consensus of the Science Panel on Interactive Communication and Health, a group of doctors, insurers, HMO representatives and online health providers: that, surprise, health information on the Web can be inaccurate! The panel, which was appointed by the U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services, recommended that the government not get involved in regulating online health information.

The HHS director of the panel, Dr. Thomas Eng, however, did cause a stir by mentioning in a press conference that Quackwatch.com was a good site for exposing bogus health information. That raised the hackles of those in the alternative care field, because Quackwatch.com (n­ December 1996) has been operated by retired psychiatrist Stephen Barrett,MD, certainly the most vocal and often-published detractor of alternative health care, including chiropractic. Quackwatch.com's slogan is "Your Guide to Health Fraud, Quackery, and Intelligent Decisions."

Dr. Barrett also administers the Chirobase.org website (n­ Oct. 1998) that is "A Skeptical Guide to Chiropractic History, Theories, and Current Practices." Chirobase is cosponsored by the National Council Against Health Fraud, Inc., and Victims of Chiropractic. Helping Dr. Barrett operate Chirobase is William Jarvis,PhD, and Charles DuVall Jr.,DC.

Ms. Ladd noted in her article in the Village Voice that if a study shows that alternative therapies do not work, Dr. Barrett has no problem with it, but if a study shows positive results, he labels that study as unreliable.

"It's easy to look at something like chiropractic, see what they're doing, and describe what they're doing wrong," Dr. Barrett told the Village Voice.

It's a curious condition that allows Dr. Barrett to assess the chiropractic profession, in which he has no professional training, yet not take the medical profession to task for any of its shortcomings. Criticism of the medical profession, he said, is "way outside my scope."
Dr. Barrett told the Village Voice that most alternative therapies should be disregarded without further research. Why? "A lot of things don't need to be tested (because) they simply don't make sense."

Mary Jo Deering, the Health Communication and Telehealth staff director at HHS, made a good point to the Village Voice. She said consumers "really need to be able to avoid quackery and bias. Bias can be as damaging as outright quackery."

Peter Barry Chowka, a consultant to NIH's Office of Alternative Medicine, former national affairs editor of New Age Journal, a writer, editor and lecturer on the limitations of conventional medicine and the promise of alternative therapies, added his commentary to the Village Voice article: "He (Barrett) seems to be putting down trying to be objective." Mr. Chowka said Quackwatch.com was "consistently provocative and entertaining, and occasionally informative," but said that Dr. Barrett was "running against the tide of history."

Mr. Chowka, observing the medical profession's efforts to thwart alternative therapies, called for an end to "medical McCarthyism." He has confidence in people to make decisions about health care. "We no longer need a nanny state or a government-appointed watchdog to filter information for us," he told the Village Voice.

The Web is opening a whole new world of information. People are ordering supplements on line, asking their doctors questions, and even getting their prescriptions filled. Chiropractic patients can get referrals to DCs and access to thousands of chiropractic articles (ChiroWeb.com).

The trend toward alternative forms of health care will continue to grow, and the internet will be a driving force behind it. Meanwhile, while some in the medical profession are creating websites to discourage and disparage alternative health care, the AMA has made the astounding decision to unionize! It would seem a decision that will be a boon to alternative therapies and drive even greater numbers of people away from the MD's office.

You'll recall Peter Chowka characterizing Dr. Barrett's Quackwatch.com as "running against the tide of history." It would seem that the AMA is rowing against the same tide.

References


Eisenberg DM, Davis RB, Ettner SL, Appel S, Wilkey S, Rompay MV, Kessler RC. Trends in alternative medicine use in the United States, 1990-97. JAMA 1998;280:1569-75.

Ladd D. Doctor who? Diagnosing medical fraud may require a second opinion. Village Voice June 23-29, 1999.










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Message Number 128749

Re: SEVERE Plantar Fasciitis View Thread
Posted by thomas j. on 9/04/03 at 04:00

Try DICLAC 5% or Diclofenac-Ratiopharm or EFFEKTON , it helped me after 1 year PF. Try it for 3 weeks , then you should feel the difference!!
greetings tj

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Message Number 127799

Re: Does BC/BS of Ohio cover ESWT? View Thread
Posted by Peter R on 8/24/03 at 08:22

ESWT with the Dornier EPOS is available to you in the following Kentucky cities- I hope one of them is close to you
Winchester,Henderson,Ft. Thomas, Highland Hts., Georgetown, Florence, Lexington,Campbellville,and Glasgow. Unfortunatel, I couldn't find any in Ohio. Good luck. If you need more info I'll try to help.

Result number: 186

Message Number 126360

TO: MOLLY H View Thread
Posted by Peter R on 8/06/03 at 05:51

Dr. Thomas might have limited experience with treating PF with ESWT but the technician who brings the equipment to his office has probably assisted in hundreds of treatments. The time since your last treatment is not as important as how you are feeling. If you are experiencing any progress toward improvement, however slight it may be, give the healing process a chance.

Result number: 187

Message Number 126354

Re: Timeframe for 2nd treatment??????????? View Thread
Posted by Molly H on 8/05/03 at 23:12

My internet has been down at home tonight. Sorry for the late response but, I live in Fort Collins and Dr. Michael Thomas is my podiatrist! They have only done a demo with the Dornier 1 time on me and who ever else went on May 14. They are getting it to try it one more time on Thursday (I called today) and maybe they will buy it and maybe not... but, I think this is too soon for me to get a 2nd treatment?????????
Dr. Z. my e-mail is still down but, once I figure this out I will e-mail you.

Thanks for all of your responses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Molly

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Message Number 126295

Re: There is not a provider for Dornier in Colorado View Thread
Posted by Peter R on 8/05/03 at 16:53

In Fort Collins Co. call Drs. Michael Thomas or Todd Haddon or James Anderson, Poudre Valley Foot and Ankle Clinic. 970-484-4620 1355 Riverside Ave, Fort Collins. They are certified to treat you with the Dornier Epos Ultra.

Result number: 189

Message Number 123942

New Blood Test May Help Diagnose MS View Thread
Posted by Sharon W on 7/10/03 at 09:44

I thought this might interest a few of you, those who have loved ones with Multiple Sclerosis... or who know someone that MIGHT have MS.

-- Sharon

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New Blood Test May Help With MS Diagnosis

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20030710/ap_on_he_me/multiple_sclerosis&e=1

By LINDA A. JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
Scientists have developed a blood test that appears to be the first reliable way to predict whether patients with neurological problems such as tingling or blurred vision will soon develop the debilitating disease multiple sclerosis

Austrian researchers studying patients with possible MS symptoms found that those with two kinds of antibodies in their blood early on were 76 times more likely to develop the tough-to-diagnose disorder than those with neither antibody.


Some of the potential early symptoms of MS can have numerous other causes, such as a stroke or a brain tumor. Moreover, one-third of patients with these initial symptoms recover and never develop MS; others can go for years before they have a second flare-up showing they have MS.


Up to now, "nobody was able to predict for an individual patient what will be in the future," said lead researcher Dr. Thomas Berger of the department of neurology at University of Innsbruck.


MS is incurable. But Berger said the blood test could help doctors decide whether to offer a patient early treatment with drugs recently proven to reduce flare-ups and slow the progression of the disease in some people.


The best current diagnostic test, an MRI scan for lesions on nerves in the brain and spinal cord, can only predict the chances of developing multiple sclerosis over the next decade, and its accuracy ranges from 80 percent down to 11 percent, Berger said. The blood test is 95 percent accurate in predicting which people will have a flare-up within several months, he said.


"These antibodies seem to predict the next attack and therefore a diagnosis of MS," said Dr. Stuart Cook, a neurologist and president of the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey. "I think it's an important contribution."


About 400,000 Americans, mostly women, have multiple sclerosis, which usually strikes between age 20 and 40.


MS is poorly understood but involves damage to nerve fibers and their protective myelin sheath in the brain, spinal cord and eyes. The cause is unknown, but doctors suspect a virus or other infection makes the immune system attack the myelin and nerve fibers.


Symptoms include weakness, tremors, difficulty walking, blindness, incontinence and emotional problems.


The disease can lie dormant for months or years, then worsen steadily or cause repeated flare-ups. Some victims become disabled; others lead fairly normal lives.


Often, MS is not diagnosed until the second episode of symptoms. Many doctors just monitor patients until then, rather than starting treatment, because the initial symptoms often are not due to MS at all; because medications do not work for some people and have serious side effects; and because MRIs, even when combined with spinal fluid tests and patient history, can be inaccurate.


In the Austrian study, reported in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine (news - web sites), doctors tested 103 patients with possible early symptoms for their levels of antibodies called anti-MOG and anti-MBP; MRI scans were used to determine how many nerve lesions they had.


After repeated testing for about four years on average, the doctors found only 23 percent of patients with neither antibody had a relapse, after 3 3/4 years on average. Among those with both antibodies, 95 percent had such a disease-defining relapse, within just 7 1/2 months on average. Among those with just anti-MOG protein, 83 percent had a relapse, on average within 14 1/2 months.


The results must be confirmed, among more patients and with a longer follow-up, Cook said.


He and Berger both said that the study does not prove whether the antibodies cause the nerve damage, or are a response to it.


Cook noted that unlike the lesions spotted by MRI scans, the antibodies did not help predict the eventual severity of the disease.





In an accompanying editorial, Drs. Jack P. Antel and Amit Bar-Or of the Montreal Neurological Institute said the findings, once confirmed, could identify subgroups of patients that particular drugs would help the most. Choosing the right drug now is hit-or-miss.

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On the Net:

New England Journal: http://www.nejm.org

Multiple Sclerosis Foundation: http://www.msfacts.org

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Message Number 123006

Re: test2 View Thread
Posted by JudyS on 6/26/03 at 15:27

Folks, I've been trying to create a common place for posting PF photos and, per John h's recommendation, I created a site at Shutterfly.com.
If you'd like, you can email me photos you want posted there or you can do as D Thomas did and create your own 'album' at Shutterfly.
The one thing I think may be a drawback there is that the internet address changes every time a photo is added (I may be wrong about that as I"m not finished exploring Shutterfly).

Currently the website address is
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b3205e3f25fa

There should be two photos there, one is my original test photo of some roses and the other is a pic of myself and Bob Gayle from our visit to San Luis Obispo a couple of weeks ago.

Having said all that, I'm still working on creating a real website exclusively for our PF photos.

Sharon - Thank you! - Yes, I took the photo - those are some roses from my garden.

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Message Number 122992

Re: To RIchard, Kathy, Dorothy, D. Thomas, Judy, and John H... View Thread
Posted by Diana on 6/26/03 at 10:38

Suzanne & Dorothy

My family is also from Kentucky. They are from the central - western part of the state in the Laurel County area. About 3 years ago, I took a trip back with my two aunts and one uncle (how he ever managed riding in a car with 3 women, I'll never know!) and we visited relatives that live in East Bernstadt. So fun. I love Kentucky too. Would love to go back but it is a long way from Oregon.

Diana

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Message Number 122983

Re: To RIchard, Kathy, Dorothy, D. Thomas, Judy, and John H... View Thread
Posted by Suzanne D on 6/26/03 at 09:06

That's cute, Richard! We have two pictures which are very special to me: one of my older daughter in her BIG sister t-shirt standing on the porch of our house by a big sign that said "It's a girl!". The other is of her in the little hospital gown they had her wear, sitting in a rocker, holding her baby sister. (She was 5 years old at the time lest you worry about her holding a baby!)

Take care,
Suzanne :)

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Message Number 122982

Re: To RIchard, Kathy, Dorothy, D. Thomas, Judy, and John H... View Thread
Posted by Suzanne D on 6/26/03 at 09:04

I grew up in Adair County where my mother's family lived, and my father was from Russell County. I certainly know where Wayne County is! That's interesting, Dorothy. Of course I've been to Bowling Green many times. I got my Master's and Rank I degrees from Western Kentucky University - although most of the classes were at off-campus sites nearer where I lived.

It's a small world!
Suzanne :)

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Message Number 122977

Re: To RIchard, Kathy, Dorothy, D. Thomas, Judy, and John H... View Thread
Posted by Richard, C.Ped on 6/26/03 at 08:01

Thanx Suzanne. We are all very excited. We have planned on getting our daughter a t-shirt. She walks around the house saying, "mommy baby" over and over again. haha
Richard

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Message Number 122972

Re: To RIchard, Kathy, Dorothy, D. Thomas, Judy, and John H... View Thread
Posted by Dorothy on 6/26/03 at 05:11

My folks were from Wayne County. My daughter was born in Bowling Green while my husband was in grad. school there; we both taught there for a time. My own family ties, however, are more on the eastern and central side, with a few relatives in Lexington, as well. I love Kentucky.

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Message Number 122936

To RIchard, Kathy, Dorothy, D. Thomas, Judy, and John H... View Thread
Posted by Suzanne D on 6/25/03 at 16:54

Hello, everyone! I've been gone for two days and came back to LOTS of posts to catch up on!

RICHARD ~ Congratulations on finding out you have a son! I hope all continues to go well with your wife and baby AND your little girl. Is she excited about being a big sister? When my younger daughter was born, her big sister had a t-shirt which read "I'm the BIG sister!" She was proud of that.

KATHY ~ I'm sorry about your knife wound! That sounds like something I would do. Does it feel any better now?

DOROTHY ~ That was interesting to read that your parents were from the Lake Cumberland area in KY! My father grew up there, in Russell County, and my grandparents lived all their lives there. And, yes, I have heard my grandfather talk about how sad it was for many when they made Lake Cumberland. I remember hearing the talk about the people who lost their land and how Grandpa thought that wasn't fair even if it was progress.

D. THOMAS ~ Your puppy pictures were cute!

JUDY ~ I have tried to re-send my e-mail to you but had some problems. For some reason this summer I can access my school e-mail from home like always, but when I try to forward or reply to a message, it just disappears. I'll write you a new one later. Thanks for caring...

JOHN H. ~ Thanks for sharing about the way to post pictures. I always enjoy looking at others' photos. By the way, how is your toe??

Sorry if this is a confusing message, but I thought it might be the simplest way to reply to several posts at once. I've probably left someone out; if so, I'll post again!

Suzanne :)

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Message Number 122917

Hmm.. View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 6/25/03 at 14:15



Don't know if I set it up right. Just posted them real quick because I don't have much time. Hope you can see them.

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Message Number 122916

Thanks John...Pup Pictures View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 6/25/03 at 14:12



http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b323830d05ea¬ag=1

Result number: 199

Message Number 122838

Re: posting photos on the internet? View Thread
Posted by JudyS on 6/24/03 at 15:21

D Thomas -

I have some Web space from my Cox @ Home service that I never use. It could become a decent site for more photos of PF folks.....
I'll see if I can figure out how to access it sometime this week.

Result number: 200

Message Number 122795

Re: posting photos on the internet? View Thread
Posted by D.Thomas on 6/24/03 at 08:52



Marie,

I'll try and find a site to post pictures later today. The names are "Lobo" for the Male and "Scout" for the female. I went to school at UNM (University of New Mexico) LOBOS. My wife's favorite movie is "To Kill a Mocking Bird."

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