Have not yet tried any of those other supplements you listed - and will keep them in mind for future. Unless I develop stomach problems from this Lodine, I plan to keep taking it for at least a month and let it do it's thing - as this is the best I've been since Nov. It's too bad this is such a trial & error deal and what works for one doesn't work for all, etc. (I've also learned from past experience with NSAID's that if I get a new flare of this shoulder say a year from now - that this Lodine may not work at all for me the next time. Very frustrating.)
P.S. My PF has been doing so well with the birks but I do abuse them with the standing long hrs. at work and that gives me tired/sore feet now and then - this morning they are really great - with not even a hint of soreness - may or may not reflect on this Lodine?