The bread pasta thing was an interesting, yet ironic twist. When he stated that he wanted me to begin a diet change with the elimination of breads and pasta I mentioned the success some of you had proclaimed on this message bpard. He explain to me the lactic acid issue and how that your claims were probably legitimate. It was a surprise to me. So the moral of the story is, I am not paying him lots of money for advice I could have gotten free unless someone that is a certified personal trainer that holds a four year college degree and visits this board has the gymnasium full of epuipment, time, and lives in Columbus to show me how to weight train properly for free.