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Identity Crisis....again!

Posted by NancyS JudyS ChrisO on 6/19/00 at 16:26 (022061)

Hi guys! It's us....Nancy I mean Judy.....or are we Chris today?
Actually it's Nancy AND Judy sitting comfy in Nancy's easy chairs. (With the hubbys having their own good laugh...)
We've compared Birks and discovered eachother's discoveries in that. Judy's been touristing for almost a week here in Maine and has some seriously sore tootsies but it's been worth it. Gotta say that I've found some comfy shoes in a most unlikely place - Walmart. They're a simple pair of white sneakers by Hanes Her Way 'Soft sols'. They are surprisingly comfy - I wore them (I being Judy) around Portland today for over two hours and did just fine. Only $9.95!
Nancy's as peachy as we all thought she was and has lovely cats and a lovely home - now we're gonna check out the infamous barn.......

Re: Identity Crisis....again!

Laurie R on 6/19/00 at 17:21 (022064)

Hi to both of you,
Ok you guys are having to much fun.That is so cool you got a chance to meet.I hope you both have a good visit. Judy tell us about the barn after you check it out.My feet are doing ok today not as much pain but they still hurt but I am not depressed any more so I do believe their is hope again,thanks to all of you for being so kind. My very best to all.Laurie R

Re: Laurie, Nancy, Judy & all: I called in the BIG TROOPS FOR US!

Beverly on 6/19/00 at 20:19 (022070)

Dear Laurie,

I'm so glad you're having a better day! I read your posts often, and I can't help but think I have little to complain about compared to the muliple agony you are going through. I hope that tomorrow continues to be a better day.

You all may poo-poo this, but given that I have a high regard for the power of prayer, I called in the BIG TROOPS. There is a cloistered
Carmelite convent in Arlington, Texas. They're sole purpose in life is prayer. That's their job... to pray. I have visited there several times when in the Metroplex, attending their Mass that is open to the public. In the last prayer request card I got in the mail from them, I described what PF is and besides my own prayer request, I asked for healing for everyone on our Board, and I named about eight people here who seem to be especially suffering. Laurie, you being one of them. Nancy, I also asked them to pray for your continued healing, and Judy, I asked for prayer for you too, but back then I thought your name was Chris. (Oh well, God knows your right name anyway.)

By the way, any Catholics from New Jersey: Do you know the name of the cloistered convent that matches you up with your own personal nun prayer partner (for a donation to their aged sisters fund)? I saw an incredible story on Dateline about this last year, but I can't remember the name of the order. Anyway, numerous people reported what they believed was truly answered prayer. Imagine, having your own personal nun praying for you off and on all day long! (I think the Rev. Mother matches up the requests with each sister to try to help ensure the best match.) I remember one man who said he and his wife had spent years trying to get pregnant... drugs... lots of nukey... everything. Then, he got his nun prayer partner, and the dear wife was pregnant within a few months with a healthy baby.

You all may think I'm nuts, but I really think there is validity to it, and it sure can't hurt!

See ya,
Beverly


Re: Laurie, Nancy, Judy & all: I called in the BIG TROOPS FOR US!

Cheryl on 6/19/00 at 20:41 (022071)

Dear Beverly......I don't post that often because I really hate complaing it bums me out I don't mind listening to others though....but I wanted you to know that I'm with you on the praying... I pray to Mary the Blessed Mother most of the time and too angels I ask them for everything!! we have cloister nuns here in Jamaica Plain Massachusetts they do the same thing pray for people all day long... I have been to healing masses etc. I'm still hurting but at least I am coping... I believe that having faith helps me alot.... thanks for validating my feelings..keep smiling.....Cheryl

Re: Laurie, Nancy, Judy & all: I called in the BIG TROOPS FOR US!

Laurie R on 6/19/00 at 22:02 (022073)

Dear Beverly,
I can't even begin to thank you for the prayer.You took the time out to think of someone besides your self WOW we sometimes get so caught up in our own pain it is hard to think about someone else,I am a big believer in prayer thats what gets me through each and everyday. You are a saint your self. I am with Cheryl too I talk to my angels and ask them to help .

Today I am doing better this week is already better than last week,I still have the pain but I am dealing with it. I go to PT tomarrow and to my Pod on Thursday ,I will keep you posted on my week.

Thank you again Beverly you are very kind......Laurie R



Re: To Laurie and Cheryl

Beverly on 6/20/00 at 00:01 (022079)

Dear Laurie,

I'm no saint, but I appreciate the compliment. My muscle relaxer just kicked in and that makes me 'extra philosophical' and probably more honest.

I believe that everything happens for a reason, and while stuck at home alot, I have given my own situation much thought.

Back when I was in professional ministry (quiet recently ago), I was very popular on stage in the pulpit and teaching (Just hand me a microphone...) But my pastoral care skills and hospital rounds left much to be desired. If someone wasn't at death's door, I'd find anyway to send someone else. That's a terrible thing for an ex-pastor to have to admit, but I just didn't feel a burden to do it. I used to pray for that gift of compassion and pastoral care, and I took extra classes in seminary, because I knew I was so lousy at it. But it was not something I could learn from a book. I guess I needed my own disaster.

I guess I needed to get hit over the head with a 2x4 to get a 'gift of compassion.' My 2x4 was this Plantar Fascia. (My endometriosis and an upperbody injury were not enough... Doctors know so much more about treating them, but this PF is so illusive... hard to treat. It has opened up my eyes to people who live with chronic illnesses.) It has changed the way I look at people. Now, when I go to church, and I see someone in a wheelchair or on crutches, my heart goes out to them, because I remember how miserable I was for those few days on crutches and in a wheelchair. Before I saw them, but I didn't have any idea what it was like. I got a tiny glimpse, and from that my perspective has changed. And now that I ride that electric cart at the grocery store, I know how embarrassing it can be when you run into someone you know.
When I was at my worst two weeks ago, a friend said, 'Come to church. We'll wheel you around.' I laughed and said, 'Save that for the seniors. I'm not going to church in a wheelchair. So I sat at home for two weeks until I could go on my own two feet. Now, I get a picture of how hard it must be for people who have no choice but to be in a wheelchair to adjust to having their friends see them. I had a choice in that I just had to rest long enough to be up and walking again.
I know God has blessed me with a 'sit at home on my rear end at my computer' job. And I am so grateful for that. I don't know how those of you who are nurses and teachers cope.

Now I'm just a lay volunteer, but I know that if I ever feel called back into professional ministry, I'll do it with a very different attitude than I ever did before.

This message board has opened up my eyes to suffering on a scale I never saw up this close and personal before. People share online in ways they don't share in person.

So learning to include all of us and naming some of the worst cases to the Sisters I think has been part of my own faith growth. Some days I walk a thin line between being so self-focused in search of 'the cure' vs. trying to get beyond myself.

I think we all have equal access to God. But I think there are those among us who has an extra special gift. I know the Sisters in the cloistered convents have that gift because they devote their whole lives to prayer.

Laurie, I hope you feel better tomorrow. You've been through so much.
Cheryl, keep on praying to the Blessed Mother. (I'm a 'closet Catholic. Protestant today, but a Catholic childhood tends to stick with you. Thus, when I'm in a real ditch, I write to the Sisters.)


Best wishes,
Beverly



Re: Laurie, Nancy, Judy & all: I called in the BIG TROOPS FOR US!

Nancy S. on 6/20/00 at 06:01 (022085)

Beverly, what a thoughtful thing for you to do -- thank you. You're right, it certainly can't hurt, and I hope it helps every single person on this board, including you! --Nancy

Re: Identity Crisis....again!

Nancy S. on 6/20/00 at 06:14 (022086)

Judy's Walmart shoes actually look decent! I was shocked. They don't bend in the middle and have a small, but feelable, arch.
My husband announced to a family gathering in Massachusetts on Sunday that 'we're having people from the Internet over tomorrow.' ('Internet' came off sounding like another U.S. state, or maybe another planet.) It was a first, and what a pleasure! Judy and her husband are great people, and we had a very good time, as maybe you could tell from Judy's post. After almost a week away from home, Judy was having message board withdrawal -- do we all know what that's like? She not only posted, but several times while here checked the board to read new messages. Now my husband knows I'm not the only crazy person who does that -- thanks, Judy! --Nancy

Re: Identity Crisis....again!

john h on 6/20/00 at 09:52 (022102)

if nancy has cats she has got to be ok. all people from maine are rugged individualist. i flew fighters out of presque isle many years ago. cold cold cold-

Re: To Laurie and Cheryl

Nanafitz on 6/20/00 at 10:45 (022109)

Hi Beverly! I haven't been on the board in a while but follow your messages with interest. I, too, believe things happen for a reason and 'Divine Intervention' has indeed played a part in my pf being so stubborn to treat. I've been on medical leave since March (I'm a nurse), and feel this time off has given me such badly needed time to get reacquainted with myself, for reflection, and for a good dose of taking control of my own life, especially with the pf. I really do think the 'specialists' don't know what to do about us hardcore pf'ers and we're left to our own devices and, thank goodness, the experiences of those on this message board. I do find, however, that the idea of so much REST doesn't set well with me and I'm trying to maintain a decent 'quality of life' and just treat the pain on a regular basis with massage, ice, etc. These past months of rest (along with casts, NSAIDS, massage, Medrol and so on) have done diddley-squat for the pain and I just can't watch the rest of the world go by. It's probably foolish but somehow it's so much less depressing. I am still looking for anything new to try for my heels, but life goes on anyway, doesn't it. Take care and I wish you all of God's blessings.........Nanafitz

Re: Identity Crisis....again!

Laurie R on 6/19/00 at 17:21 (022064)

Hi to both of you,
Ok you guys are having to much fun.That is so cool you got a chance to meet.I hope you both have a good visit. Judy tell us about the barn after you check it out.My feet are doing ok today not as much pain but they still hurt but I am not depressed any more so I do believe their is hope again,thanks to all of you for being so kind. My very best to all.Laurie R

Re: Laurie, Nancy, Judy & all: I called in the BIG TROOPS FOR US!

Beverly on 6/19/00 at 20:19 (022070)

Dear Laurie,

I'm so glad you're having a better day! I read your posts often, and I can't help but think I have little to complain about compared to the muliple agony you are going through. I hope that tomorrow continues to be a better day.

You all may poo-poo this, but given that I have a high regard for the power of prayer, I called in the BIG TROOPS. There is a cloistered
Carmelite convent in Arlington, Texas. They're sole purpose in life is prayer. That's their job... to pray. I have visited there several times when in the Metroplex, attending their Mass that is open to the public. In the last prayer request card I got in the mail from them, I described what PF is and besides my own prayer request, I asked for healing for everyone on our Board, and I named about eight people here who seem to be especially suffering. Laurie, you being one of them. Nancy, I also asked them to pray for your continued healing, and Judy, I asked for prayer for you too, but back then I thought your name was Chris. (Oh well, God knows your right name anyway.)

By the way, any Catholics from New Jersey: Do you know the name of the cloistered convent that matches you up with your own personal nun prayer partner (for a donation to their aged sisters fund)? I saw an incredible story on Dateline about this last year, but I can't remember the name of the order. Anyway, numerous people reported what they believed was truly answered prayer. Imagine, having your own personal nun praying for you off and on all day long! (I think the Rev. Mother matches up the requests with each sister to try to help ensure the best match.) I remember one man who said he and his wife had spent years trying to get pregnant... drugs... lots of nukey... everything. Then, he got his nun prayer partner, and the dear wife was pregnant within a few months with a healthy baby.

You all may think I'm nuts, but I really think there is validity to it, and it sure can't hurt!

See ya,
Beverly


Re: Laurie, Nancy, Judy & all: I called in the BIG TROOPS FOR US!

Cheryl on 6/19/00 at 20:41 (022071)

Dear Beverly......I don't post that often because I really hate complaing it bums me out I don't mind listening to others though....but I wanted you to know that I'm with you on the praying... I pray to Mary the Blessed Mother most of the time and too angels I ask them for everything!! we have cloister nuns here in Jamaica Plain Massachusetts they do the same thing pray for people all day long... I have been to healing masses etc. I'm still hurting but at least I am coping... I believe that having faith helps me alot.... thanks for validating my feelings..keep smiling.....Cheryl

Re: Laurie, Nancy, Judy & all: I called in the BIG TROOPS FOR US!

Laurie R on 6/19/00 at 22:02 (022073)

Dear Beverly,
I can't even begin to thank you for the prayer.You took the time out to think of someone besides your self WOW we sometimes get so caught up in our own pain it is hard to think about someone else,I am a big believer in prayer thats what gets me through each and everyday. You are a saint your self. I am with Cheryl too I talk to my angels and ask them to help .

Today I am doing better this week is already better than last week,I still have the pain but I am dealing with it. I go to PT tomarrow and to my Pod on Thursday ,I will keep you posted on my week.

Thank you again Beverly you are very kind......Laurie R



Re: To Laurie and Cheryl

Beverly on 6/20/00 at 00:01 (022079)

Dear Laurie,

I'm no saint, but I appreciate the compliment. My muscle relaxer just kicked in and that makes me 'extra philosophical' and probably more honest.

I believe that everything happens for a reason, and while stuck at home alot, I have given my own situation much thought.

Back when I was in professional ministry (quiet recently ago), I was very popular on stage in the pulpit and teaching (Just hand me a microphone...) But my pastoral care skills and hospital rounds left much to be desired. If someone wasn't at death's door, I'd find anyway to send someone else. That's a terrible thing for an ex-pastor to have to admit, but I just didn't feel a burden to do it. I used to pray for that gift of compassion and pastoral care, and I took extra classes in seminary, because I knew I was so lousy at it. But it was not something I could learn from a book. I guess I needed my own disaster.

I guess I needed to get hit over the head with a 2x4 to get a 'gift of compassion.' My 2x4 was this Plantar Fascia. (My endometriosis and an upperbody injury were not enough... Doctors know so much more about treating them, but this PF is so illusive... hard to treat. It has opened up my eyes to people who live with chronic illnesses.) It has changed the way I look at people. Now, when I go to church, and I see someone in a wheelchair or on crutches, my heart goes out to them, because I remember how miserable I was for those few days on crutches and in a wheelchair. Before I saw them, but I didn't have any idea what it was like. I got a tiny glimpse, and from that my perspective has changed. And now that I ride that electric cart at the grocery store, I know how embarrassing it can be when you run into someone you know.
When I was at my worst two weeks ago, a friend said, 'Come to church. We'll wheel you around.' I laughed and said, 'Save that for the seniors. I'm not going to church in a wheelchair. So I sat at home for two weeks until I could go on my own two feet. Now, I get a picture of how hard it must be for people who have no choice but to be in a wheelchair to adjust to having their friends see them. I had a choice in that I just had to rest long enough to be up and walking again.
I know God has blessed me with a 'sit at home on my rear end at my computer' job. And I am so grateful for that. I don't know how those of you who are nurses and teachers cope.

Now I'm just a lay volunteer, but I know that if I ever feel called back into professional ministry, I'll do it with a very different attitude than I ever did before.

This message board has opened up my eyes to suffering on a scale I never saw up this close and personal before. People share online in ways they don't share in person.

So learning to include all of us and naming some of the worst cases to the Sisters I think has been part of my own faith growth. Some days I walk a thin line between being so self-focused in search of 'the cure' vs. trying to get beyond myself.

I think we all have equal access to God. But I think there are those among us who has an extra special gift. I know the Sisters in the cloistered convents have that gift because they devote their whole lives to prayer.

Laurie, I hope you feel better tomorrow. You've been through so much.
Cheryl, keep on praying to the Blessed Mother. (I'm a 'closet Catholic. Protestant today, but a Catholic childhood tends to stick with you. Thus, when I'm in a real ditch, I write to the Sisters.)


Best wishes,
Beverly



Re: Laurie, Nancy, Judy & all: I called in the BIG TROOPS FOR US!

Nancy S. on 6/20/00 at 06:01 (022085)

Beverly, what a thoughtful thing for you to do -- thank you. You're right, it certainly can't hurt, and I hope it helps every single person on this board, including you! --Nancy

Re: Identity Crisis....again!

Nancy S. on 6/20/00 at 06:14 (022086)

Judy's Walmart shoes actually look decent! I was shocked. They don't bend in the middle and have a small, but feelable, arch.
My husband announced to a family gathering in Massachusetts on Sunday that 'we're having people from the Internet over tomorrow.' ('Internet' came off sounding like another U.S. state, or maybe another planet.) It was a first, and what a pleasure! Judy and her husband are great people, and we had a very good time, as maybe you could tell from Judy's post. After almost a week away from home, Judy was having message board withdrawal -- do we all know what that's like? She not only posted, but several times while here checked the board to read new messages. Now my husband knows I'm not the only crazy person who does that -- thanks, Judy! --Nancy

Re: Identity Crisis....again!

john h on 6/20/00 at 09:52 (022102)

if nancy has cats she has got to be ok. all people from maine are rugged individualist. i flew fighters out of presque isle many years ago. cold cold cold-

Re: To Laurie and Cheryl

Nanafitz on 6/20/00 at 10:45 (022109)

Hi Beverly! I haven't been on the board in a while but follow your messages with interest. I, too, believe things happen for a reason and 'Divine Intervention' has indeed played a part in my pf being so stubborn to treat. I've been on medical leave since March (I'm a nurse), and feel this time off has given me such badly needed time to get reacquainted with myself, for reflection, and for a good dose of taking control of my own life, especially with the pf. I really do think the 'specialists' don't know what to do about us hardcore pf'ers and we're left to our own devices and, thank goodness, the experiences of those on this message board. I do find, however, that the idea of so much REST doesn't set well with me and I'm trying to maintain a decent 'quality of life' and just treat the pain on a regular basis with massage, ice, etc. These past months of rest (along with casts, NSAIDS, massage, Medrol and so on) have done diddley-squat for the pain and I just can't watch the rest of the world go by. It's probably foolish but somehow it's so much less depressing. I am still looking for anything new to try for my heels, but life goes on anyway, doesn't it. Take care and I wish you all of God's blessings.........Nanafitz