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What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

Posted by Kim B. on 7/05/00 at 22:01 (022887)

Is there such a thing as a critera for who can benefit from Ossatron? Large Spurs? Small Spurs? No Spurs? Foot pain of any specific kind? Is it still only available in Canada and New Jersey? Why New Jersey but not other parts of the U.S.? HELP!

My heel spurs are small, with my PF pain starting about 18 months ago. (Sore ankles in the morning have been around for a lot longer and were always blamed on the Fibromyalgia in the past.) I wonder if my foot pain isn't simply bursitis or arthritis of the feet. How can we know the difference?? HELP!

Is there anything that a local (TX) Pod could do for me? BESIDES shots, anti-inflammatory meds, and custom orthotics? Do Pods do physical threapy in their offices? If so, do folks ever get real results from it? HELP!

I gotta tell you guys, I had about 6 weeks where my PF pain had reduced to almost nothing but now it's back. I was almost better off back when I had forgotten what it was like to have feet that felt good. Now I just want to scream out loud! (But I fear the men in the white coats will come to take me away!) I've got so many other problems right now between my semi messed-up face and my Fibromyalgia that this foot pain returning is just the last straw! I am sooo depressed.

Regards,
Brink of insanity Kim B.


Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

john h on 7/06/00 at 08:56 (022896)

there are ORBASONE treatments available in chicago (dr weil), los angeles, and dr zuckerman in new jersey. from what dr zuckerman told me to insure a chance of success your pain should be where the fascia connects to the heel and should be reproduceable by pressing on the area of pain. you can go to his website http://www.thefootspecialist.com and get his phone number and get specific answers. the OSSATRON has not yet been approved for use in the U.S but hopefully will by the end of this month.

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

Rick R on 7/06/00 at 10:26 (022899)

Kim B,

Sorry you are having a rough go of it. With small spurs (some would suggest any spurs) you should be able to find a path to improvement. I curious if your relapse happened to coinside with reduction in activity. If I don't keep working these old dawgs to stay in shape I get in trouble with the PF gods. I wasn't aware you had an additional misfortune. My 16 year old daughter has a nasty scar on her kisser from a bad landing she took as a 3 year old (we were on a first name basis with the emergency room folks for a few years). She had a plastic surgeon sew her up at the time. The master plan called for additional work at 16 years. She has decided not to mess with it since it has become part of her persona. I hope you don't get too crazy but I'd be glad to hold a space open for you if they come to get you.

Rick


Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

Steve P on 7/06/00 at 10:38 (022900)

Kim -- Since there is some question whether you're dealing with just PF/spurs or with other problems as well, I would recommend going to a Sport Medicine department of a major hospital. Take your x-rays & other medical records with you & get a complete evaluation.
Most Sports Medicine/Orthopedic practices offer PT & that could be useful for you, depending on the diagnosis.
It's very good news that you were almost pain-free for 6 weeks. So take heart! If you did it once, you can do it again!

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

IreneM on 7/06/00 at 15:01 (022911)

Hi again, Kim,
It's always good to meet a fellow Texan, tho the circumstances could be better. I have multiple problems also so I know what you mean. The foot pain is hard enough to deal with even for people who are otherwise healthy.
I understand there are Ossotron machines in Houston and Galveston. For Houston, contact Dana Narcisse 713-302-8369.
Good luck.
IreneM

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

BJC on 7/06/00 at 17:51 (022927)

Funny you should ask that question...I did several days ago on the ESWT board, and didn't get a single answer to my many questions. I really have my doubts about this...it may be waaay too early to say that this is the way to go. Certainly there has been no long term data reported yet.

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

john h on 7/06/00 at 18:58 (022932)

if you will put your search engine on ESWT you can find a lot of data from Germany where ESWT has been in use for many years. Treatment by this method is approved by German insurance companies and the long term success data is excellent for many orthopedic problems including PF, hip bursitis,shoulder bursitis, tennis elbow,etc. With no reported side effects and if you can afford it IMHO it is a great alternative to the many other modes of treatment.

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

Dr. Zuckerman on 7/06/00 at 19:55 (022939)

There is three other place doing orbasone. Dr. Emeerson (Phoenix AZ.)
Dr. Osterdoff( Miami Fla.) and Dr. Martin in Lancaster. Pa. You are are going to see the ossatron in the USA in the near future in addition. 30-60 days I hope!!!!

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

JudyS on 7/06/00 at 22:11 (022945)

Dr. Z -
You've always been very precise when you say that the ESWT is targeted precisely at the planter point-of-insertion - that makes it logical that a potential PF ESWT patient should be exhibiting signs of pain in that spot.........my question is; if the target is the insertion point, then is that also the ONLY area of the plantar that is treated and hopefully is eventually pain-free? Or, in spite of that precise 'target', does the entire plantar subsequently become pain-free? (hopefully!)

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

john h on 7/06/00 at 08:56 (022896)

there are ORBASONE treatments available in chicago (dr weil), los angeles, and dr zuckerman in new jersey. from what dr zuckerman told me to insure a chance of success your pain should be where the fascia connects to the heel and should be reproduceable by pressing on the area of pain. you can go to his website http://www.thefootspecialist.com and get his phone number and get specific answers. the OSSATRON has not yet been approved for use in the U.S but hopefully will by the end of this month.

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

Rick R on 7/06/00 at 10:26 (022899)

Kim B,

Sorry you are having a rough go of it. With small spurs (some would suggest any spurs) you should be able to find a path to improvement. I curious if your relapse happened to coinside with reduction in activity. If I don't keep working these old dawgs to stay in shape I get in trouble with the PF gods. I wasn't aware you had an additional misfortune. My 16 year old daughter has a nasty scar on her kisser from a bad landing she took as a 3 year old (we were on a first name basis with the emergency room folks for a few years). She had a plastic surgeon sew her up at the time. The master plan called for additional work at 16 years. She has decided not to mess with it since it has become part of her persona. I hope you don't get too crazy but I'd be glad to hold a space open for you if they come to get you.

Rick


Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

Steve P on 7/06/00 at 10:38 (022900)

Kim -- Since there is some question whether you're dealing with just PF/spurs or with other problems as well, I would recommend going to a Sport Medicine department of a major hospital. Take your x-rays & other medical records with you & get a complete evaluation.
Most Sports Medicine/Orthopedic practices offer PT & that could be useful for you, depending on the diagnosis.
It's very good news that you were almost pain-free for 6 weeks. So take heart! If you did it once, you can do it again!

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

IreneM on 7/06/00 at 15:01 (022911)

Hi again, Kim,
It's always good to meet a fellow Texan, tho the circumstances could be better. I have multiple problems also so I know what you mean. The foot pain is hard enough to deal with even for people who are otherwise healthy.
I understand there are Ossotron machines in Houston and Galveston. For Houston, contact Dana Narcisse 713-302-8369.
Good luck.
IreneM

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

BJC on 7/06/00 at 17:51 (022927)

Funny you should ask that question...I did several days ago on the ESWT board, and didn't get a single answer to my many questions. I really have my doubts about this...it may be waaay too early to say that this is the way to go. Certainly there has been no long term data reported yet.

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

john h on 7/06/00 at 18:58 (022932)

if you will put your search engine on ESWT you can find a lot of data from Germany where ESWT has been in use for many years. Treatment by this method is approved by German insurance companies and the long term success data is excellent for many orthopedic problems including PF, hip bursitis,shoulder bursitis, tennis elbow,etc. With no reported side effects and if you can afford it IMHO it is a great alternative to the many other modes of treatment.

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

Dr. Zuckerman on 7/06/00 at 19:55 (022939)

There is three other place doing orbasone. Dr. Emeerson (Phoenix AZ.)
Dr. Osterdoff( Miami Fla.) and Dr. Martin in Lancaster. Pa. You are are going to see the ossatron in the USA in the near future in addition. 30-60 days I hope!!!!

Re: What is the criteria for Ossatron? And other questions, HELP ! I have reached my breaking point!!

JudyS on 7/06/00 at 22:11 (022945)

Dr. Z -
You've always been very precise when you say that the ESWT is targeted precisely at the planter point-of-insertion - that makes it logical that a potential PF ESWT patient should be exhibiting signs of pain in that spot.........my question is; if the target is the insertion point, then is that also the ONLY area of the plantar that is treated and hopefully is eventually pain-free? Or, in spite of that precise 'target', does the entire plantar subsequently become pain-free? (hopefully!)