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Posted by Richard Graham on 9/04/00 at 09:07 (027114)

It's probably not PF it's gout - get a blood test from your doctor that will show very quickly if it's PF or Gout.

Gout is Dead easy to treat and although I was suffering with what was originally diagnosed as PF I am in ecstasey.

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john h on 9/04/00 at 13:30 (027161)

i always though gout was strictly confined to the great toe? can it mimic PF and if so how?

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Dr. Zuckerman on 9/04/00 at 13:48 (027164)

Gout is usually is joints such as the big toe. I have seen it in every joint in the foot. What I am saying there have been cases where the uric acid level is abnormal and there isn't any attack just pf pain and other tendon pain. So it should be one of the test to perform

There are alot of other reasons why you could get an elevated uric acid level, gout is just one of the common causes.

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Dr. Zuckerman on 9/04/00 at 14:22 (027166)

Ok back to the question. I had to walk my dog. This information came from a book that I read back in School. If was by a Dr, Giannestra. He was the first foot orthopedic surgeon that only treated feet. He is the godfather of the Dr Baxter's. The book was called the medical and surgical treatment of the foot. He felt that an elevated or near high normal uric acid could cause the symtoms of gout. I though about this and it make sense to me. Uric Acid elevation causes a set off of the inflamation cycle in the human body. So its not high enough to cause the severe outbreak of gout but high enought to cause general tendon inflamation. The treatment was indocin . I had a patient a few weeks ago come in with heel pain. He had CA of the prostate. His uric acid was elevated . I placed him on zyloprim and it reduced the uric acid the pain went away. I am not sure if the medication did the trick or if the fact that I tried to treatment and not tell him it was in his head. Any way he is still pain free with a reduce uric acid elevation. I learned alot from reading Dr. Giannestra's book.

The book was written I think in the early 1960's or the late 1950'
I think I will try to find the book and look at some of his treatments for pf.

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Dr. Biehler on 9/04/00 at 15:27 (027173)

Just thought I would mention that durring a full blown gout attack, alot of times the uric acid level in the blood comes back as normal. This is because it has crysatalized out in the joints. Dr. Biehler

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salina on 9/05/00 at 00:35 (027204)

What were your symptoms?

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richard graham on 9/05/00 at 07:19 (027211)

tHE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO SEE YOUR doctor and have a blood test to see if the pain is gout related. Gout, and I am a sufferer not a doctor, can occur in any joint. Once diagnosed you'll be well on the way to a cure.

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richard graham on 9/05/00 at 07:46 (027219)

5 Years of pain sometimes in both feet at the same time which was murder. Getting out of bed was ridiculous. If there had been a fire I don't think I would habve got out in time.

Anyway the pain was mosttly just in front of the heel arch and I was convinced it was PF. So was the osteopath who massaged it twice a week for a bag full of cash.

Eventually I went to se a specialist about lower back pain. He did a blood test and found Uric acid levels were well up.

He gave me a diet sheet (no red meat, peanuts and drink loads of water). Within 7 days the pain had gone. That was 9 months ago......

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salina on 9/05/00 at 12:24 (027253)

Sorry that you suffered so long with this. But happy that you found out what the problem was and are taking care of it. I have this in both feet, right one being worse. It is swollen, inflamed, red, and I can't even touch it when it flares up.
Thanks for the info. It won't hurt for me to ask my doctor to do a test for it to check. Good luck to you. Enjoy your painfree days.

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john h on 9/04/00 at 13:30 (027161)

i always though gout was strictly confined to the great toe? can it mimic PF and if so how?

Re: A cure ? continued...see www.twcfm.co.uk...

Dr. Zuckerman on 9/04/00 at 13:48 (027164)

Gout is usually is joints such as the big toe. I have seen it in every joint in the foot. What I am saying there have been cases where the uric acid level is abnormal and there isn't any attack just pf pain and other tendon pain. So it should be one of the test to perform

There are alot of other reasons why you could get an elevated uric acid level, gout is just one of the common causes.

Re: A cure ? continued...see www.twcfm.co.uk...

Dr. Zuckerman on 9/04/00 at 14:22 (027166)

Ok back to the question. I had to walk my dog. This information came from a book that I read back in School. If was by a Dr, Giannestra. He was the first foot orthopedic surgeon that only treated feet. He is the godfather of the Dr Baxter's. The book was called the medical and surgical treatment of the foot. He felt that an elevated or near high normal uric acid could cause the symtoms of gout. I though about this and it make sense to me. Uric Acid elevation causes a set off of the inflamation cycle in the human body. So its not high enough to cause the severe outbreak of gout but high enought to cause general tendon inflamation. The treatment was indocin . I had a patient a few weeks ago come in with heel pain. He had CA of the prostate. His uric acid was elevated . I placed him on zyloprim and it reduced the uric acid the pain went away. I am not sure if the medication did the trick or if the fact that I tried to treatment and not tell him it was in his head. Any way he is still pain free with a reduce uric acid elevation. I learned alot from reading Dr. Giannestra's book.

The book was written I think in the early 1960's or the late 1950'
I think I will try to find the book and look at some of his treatments for pf.

Re: A cure ? continued...see www.twcfm.co.uk...

Dr. Biehler on 9/04/00 at 15:27 (027173)

Just thought I would mention that durring a full blown gout attack, alot of times the uric acid level in the blood comes back as normal. This is because it has crysatalized out in the joints. Dr. Biehler

Re: A cure ? continued...see www.twcfm.co.uk...

salina on 9/05/00 at 00:35 (027204)

What were your symptoms?

Re: A cure ? continued...see www.twcfm.co.uk...

richard graham on 9/05/00 at 07:19 (027211)

tHE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO SEE YOUR doctor and have a blood test to see if the pain is gout related. Gout, and I am a sufferer not a doctor, can occur in any joint. Once diagnosed you'll be well on the way to a cure.

Re: A cure ? continued...see www.twcfm.co.uk...

richard graham on 9/05/00 at 07:46 (027219)

5 Years of pain sometimes in both feet at the same time which was murder. Getting out of bed was ridiculous. If there had been a fire I don't think I would habve got out in time.

Anyway the pain was mosttly just in front of the heel arch and I was convinced it was PF. So was the osteopath who massaged it twice a week for a bag full of cash.

Eventually I went to se a specialist about lower back pain. He did a blood test and found Uric acid levels were well up.

He gave me a diet sheet (no red meat, peanuts and drink loads of water). Within 7 days the pain had gone. That was 9 months ago......

Re: A cure ? continued...see www.twcfm.co.uk...

salina on 9/05/00 at 12:24 (027253)

Sorry that you suffered so long with this. But happy that you found out what the problem was and are taking care of it. I have this in both feet, right one being worse. It is swollen, inflamed, red, and I can't even touch it when it flares up.
Thanks for the info. It won't hurt for me to ask my doctor to do a test for it to check. Good luck to you. Enjoy your painfree days.