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Dry Needling

Posted by Scott R on 9/04/00 at 09:40 (027129)

Here's an email I received. Let me know if you know more about it or find a good link.
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I have had plantar fasciaitis for over 2 years. I had cortisone shots which worked temporarily. In April, I had an operation which was basically cutting the fascia two thirds of the way through and off the heel. It did not work. On the advice of my podiatrist, I tried a new treatment option called dry needling. An anesthesiologist performed it. I was put to sleep and then he inserted many long acupuncture needles all around the bottom of the heel area. It has been a week since the procedure and the results have been fantastic so far. The only downside is that it may come back and I may need
to do it again...but maybe not. It is definitely worth looking into for people with heel pain.

Re: Dry Needling

john h on 9/04/00 at 10:24 (027131)

i will be talking to a pain specialist (anesthesiologist) in a couple of weeks. he is a friend. i will ask him about this. he is board certified and seems to be on the leading edge of everything so maybe he will offer some insight.. almost sounds like a form of acupuncture.

Re: Dry Needling

john h on 9/04/00 at 10:42 (027135)

scott: i will forward you two URL's that cover dry needling. It is a form of trigger point injections with no medications and akin to acupuncture.

Re: Dry Needling

wendyn on 9/04/00 at 11:02 (027137)

Yikes - sounds terrible.

I know two people who have had what they referred to as 'needling' in their necks for whiplash injuries. It was evidently quite painful but effective. I wonder if this is the same thing?

Re: Dry Needling

Dr. Zuckerman on 9/04/00 at 11:08 (027139)

I did this procedure at one time. It was painless because I used a posterior tibial nerve block and local infiltration. I had some sucess but not enough cases to endorse . The purpose was to break up scar tissue and to do a little bleeding into the area where the pf attaches to the bone. Shouldn't be used unless the area is against the bone. This is very similar to a steriod injection from the bottom except that you push a very large needle into the spur if that is where the pain is. Make sure if you go this way that the doctor knows what he is doing. Wrong place nerve damage. Only do this at the pf insertion and only needle into the bone. It is my opinion that the reason it works is to the spur (calcificaton) is fractures or is a non or mal union

Re: john h-- Dry Needling: URLs...

alan k on 9/05/00 at 07:55 (027221)

Could you put the URLs here...

alan k

Re: john h-- Dry Needling: URLs...

john h on 9/05/00 at 09:54 (027234)

alan: here is one of the urls on dry needling:
http://www.dringber.com/tpoint.html

the others are on my computer at home

Re: Dry Needling

john h on 9/04/00 at 10:24 (027131)

i will be talking to a pain specialist (anesthesiologist) in a couple of weeks. he is a friend. i will ask him about this. he is board certified and seems to be on the leading edge of everything so maybe he will offer some insight.. almost sounds like a form of acupuncture.

Re: Dry Needling

john h on 9/04/00 at 10:42 (027135)

scott: i will forward you two URL's that cover dry needling. It is a form of trigger point injections with no medications and akin to acupuncture.

Re: Dry Needling

wendyn on 9/04/00 at 11:02 (027137)

Yikes - sounds terrible.

I know two people who have had what they referred to as 'needling' in their necks for whiplash injuries. It was evidently quite painful but effective. I wonder if this is the same thing?

Re: Dry Needling

Dr. Zuckerman on 9/04/00 at 11:08 (027139)

I did this procedure at one time. It was painless because I used a posterior tibial nerve block and local infiltration. I had some sucess but not enough cases to endorse . The purpose was to break up scar tissue and to do a little bleeding into the area where the pf attaches to the bone. Shouldn't be used unless the area is against the bone. This is very similar to a steriod injection from the bottom except that you push a very large needle into the spur if that is where the pain is. Make sure if you go this way that the doctor knows what he is doing. Wrong place nerve damage. Only do this at the pf insertion and only needle into the bone. It is my opinion that the reason it works is to the spur (calcificaton) is fractures or is a non or mal union

Re: john h-- Dry Needling: URLs...

alan k on 9/05/00 at 07:55 (027221)

Could you put the URLs here...

alan k

Re: john h-- Dry Needling: URLs...

john h on 9/05/00 at 09:54 (027234)

alan: here is one of the urls on dry needling:
http://www.dringber.com/tpoint.html

the others are on my computer at home