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the dreaded words...........

Posted by JudyS on 9/29/00 at 16:55 (029462)

those ones we hate to hear and I refuse to accept......'You may have to deal with this lingering pain forever....'. Yep, I heard them from my PT this morning. My heels are so much better, my arches are so much better - I can do about 3 hours on them now. But there's one area of soreness that just keeps hanging in there. You know how you sort of can tell when your doc or PT is getting, shall we say, tired of treating you? My PT is a really great guy but I think he thought it'd be done by now - it's been 8 or 10 consistent weeks. He works really hard with me and I can only imagine what it costs him in terms of sore hands and wrists. The 'script will run out soon and I go back to the Pod. But I just plain won't accept that verdict until I know all tools have been used. Like an MRI, orthotics, ESWT? Surgery? I still think no on surgery.

Re: the dreaded words...........

Nancy S. on 9/29/00 at 17:04 (029466)

Judy, I'm so glad you don't accept those words, because they're unacceptable. That's not for him to diagnose! You have the right pioneering attitude, keep it up, friend.
And again, have a great weekend --
Nancy

Re: the dreaded words...........

Lori E. on 9/29/00 at 18:29 (029472)

I just thought that I would add my two cents. I saw a PT for months, and had some progress, but wasn't progressing at the rate that I think PTs are used to. My progress just sort of stalled out at a pain level of 5. My PT told me that they are used to working with people that have a predictable healing time, such as from a broken bone or surgery.
PF is something that I think frustrates them, and after a while she told me that she didn't think she could do anything else for me. I tried acupunture next and it has helped with pain control, but hasn't healed me. I still have linger pain and suffer from setbacks from overuse. I have taken time off from work to try to rest my feet, but still have daily nagging pain. Don't accept the statement that you will have to just 'live with it' I think there are more options out there and that you just have to keep trying. Keep your chin up. Good luck.

Re: the dreaded words...........

john h on 9/29/00 at 19:13 (029476)

do not accept those words judy.

Re: the dreaded words...........

Dr. Zuckerman on 9/29/00 at 20:00 (029479)

If you came this far why would anyone want you to stop. I could understand in some way if nothing was working the frustration of the pt, but he is helping you that should want him to keep going

Re: Response to the dreaded words...........

wendyn on 9/29/00 at 20:31 (029481)

I believe the appropriate response to the dreaded words is

'Bite Me'

As you walk out the door and find a more optimistic health provider.

Re: the dreaded words...........

Beverly on 9/29/00 at 20:41 (029482)

Judy,

I agree. Don't accept your PT's verdict. He is not a foot specialist.
My PT said to me today, 'We don't know why some patients progress quickly and others heal at a slow rate.'

No one should even in the nicest way, rob you of hope. Look at how long Robin could barely leave the house, and now we rarely hear from her, because she is doing so well. I can think of several other similiar cases just in the time I've been on the board.
If it were me, I'd push for a renewal of the PT script.
I am in my third month of PT. So far, the doctor keeps renewing it.

One thing I did when my PT started hinting at things like, 'We may come to a point where PT has done all it can for you' was to point out how PT has helped me. I noted how much more flexiblity I have, more good days, ect. That seemed to make a difference. My PT encouraged the doctor to renew my script.

Best luck,
Beverly
PS: For anyone: How would I go about finding a reputable acuptuncturist?

Re: the dreaded words...........

JudyS on 9/29/00 at 22:44 (029490)

Yeah, you guys are totally right and I know it. And you know how easy it is to hyper-react to those kinds of words. In fact, I've had just about the worst PF day today that I've had in at least a month. Don't suppose there's a correlation, do you?
Thanks Dr. Z for your perfect point (and yet another healthy chuckle over your special kind of 'word arrangement'.....)your observation means a lot.

Re: Response to the dreaded words...........

suzi on 9/29/00 at 22:49 (029493)

I'm with ya wendy, you're my kind of gal!!! couldn't have said it better myself!

Re: the dreaded words...........

john h on 9/30/00 at 14:37 (029520)

the army motto 'Can DO!' not 'you will have to live with this forever'!.

Re: the dreaded words...........

Pauline on 10/02/00 at 20:24 (029640)

Make up your mind not to believe them. It will go away. I am living proof that PF does go away. It may come back and I am living proof of that too, but I think you just need more time. Keep doing what the PT is doing on your own.

Re: the dreaded words...........

Nancy S. on 9/29/00 at 17:04 (029466)

Judy, I'm so glad you don't accept those words, because they're unacceptable. That's not for him to diagnose! You have the right pioneering attitude, keep it up, friend.
And again, have a great weekend --
Nancy

Re: the dreaded words...........

Lori E. on 9/29/00 at 18:29 (029472)

I just thought that I would add my two cents. I saw a PT for months, and had some progress, but wasn't progressing at the rate that I think PTs are used to. My progress just sort of stalled out at a pain level of 5. My PT told me that they are used to working with people that have a predictable healing time, such as from a broken bone or surgery.
PF is something that I think frustrates them, and after a while she told me that she didn't think she could do anything else for me. I tried acupunture next and it has helped with pain control, but hasn't healed me. I still have linger pain and suffer from setbacks from overuse. I have taken time off from work to try to rest my feet, but still have daily nagging pain. Don't accept the statement that you will have to just 'live with it' I think there are more options out there and that you just have to keep trying. Keep your chin up. Good luck.

Re: the dreaded words...........

john h on 9/29/00 at 19:13 (029476)

do not accept those words judy.

Re: the dreaded words...........

Dr. Zuckerman on 9/29/00 at 20:00 (029479)

If you came this far why would anyone want you to stop. I could understand in some way if nothing was working the frustration of the pt, but he is helping you that should want him to keep going

Re: Response to the dreaded words...........

wendyn on 9/29/00 at 20:31 (029481)

I believe the appropriate response to the dreaded words is

'Bite Me'

As you walk out the door and find a more optimistic health provider.

Re: the dreaded words...........

Beverly on 9/29/00 at 20:41 (029482)

Judy,

I agree. Don't accept your PT's verdict. He is not a foot specialist.
My PT said to me today, 'We don't know why some patients progress quickly and others heal at a slow rate.'

No one should even in the nicest way, rob you of hope. Look at how long Robin could barely leave the house, and now we rarely hear from her, because she is doing so well. I can think of several other similiar cases just in the time I've been on the board.
If it were me, I'd push for a renewal of the PT script.
I am in my third month of PT. So far, the doctor keeps renewing it.

One thing I did when my PT started hinting at things like, 'We may come to a point where PT has done all it can for you' was to point out how PT has helped me. I noted how much more flexiblity I have, more good days, ect. That seemed to make a difference. My PT encouraged the doctor to renew my script.

Best luck,
Beverly
PS: For anyone: How would I go about finding a reputable acuptuncturist?

Re: the dreaded words...........

JudyS on 9/29/00 at 22:44 (029490)

Yeah, you guys are totally right and I know it. And you know how easy it is to hyper-react to those kinds of words. In fact, I've had just about the worst PF day today that I've had in at least a month. Don't suppose there's a correlation, do you?
Thanks Dr. Z for your perfect point (and yet another healthy chuckle over your special kind of 'word arrangement'.....)your observation means a lot.

Re: Response to the dreaded words...........

suzi on 9/29/00 at 22:49 (029493)

I'm with ya wendy, you're my kind of gal!!! couldn't have said it better myself!

Re: the dreaded words...........

john h on 9/30/00 at 14:37 (029520)

the army motto 'Can DO!' not 'you will have to live with this forever'!.

Re: the dreaded words...........

Pauline on 10/02/00 at 20:24 (029640)

Make up your mind not to believe them. It will go away. I am living proof that PF does go away. It may come back and I am living proof of that too, but I think you just need more time. Keep doing what the PT is doing on your own.