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Intra-sonic pain relief: trying again

Posted by Julie F on 11/05/00 at 06:35 (031972)

A few days ago I posted the following on the Treatments board:

I own an intrasonic massage device that I acquired for tennis elbow several years ago. It was helpful then, and when I didn't need it any more I stashed it away on the back of a shelf and forgot about it. Now I've just retrieved it to use on my heel.

There seem to have been no previous postings about it, so I'll tell you about it in case you'd like to investigate it. It's made by Novafon, in Germany and Denmark. Like ultrasound, it uses sound waves to stimulate blood flow and encourage the body's natural healing processes. It operates at a lower frequency than ultrasound (16-20,000hz) and therefore works more slowly, but the manufacturers say that for that reason it's safer, has no harmful side effects and does not require a specialist operator.

There are several Novafon websites in Europe and the US. The most informative is the one in the UK: http://www.novafon.co.uk , but it can be bought online from the medicool and health-store sites in the States. Medicool are cheaper ($159 as against $199).

I'm not making any claims for the device, as I've only just started to use it, and I'm doing so many other things that it won't be easy to say whether or not it has helped. But I think the principle is sound, so I'm giving it a whirl.

This was followed by a message from Alan:

Re: Intrasonic pain relief
Posted by alan k on 11/02/00 at 06:23

I know that with ultrasound, there is a limit to the use after which it begins to become dangerous because of weakening the bones that are exposed to the sound waves. They usually limit ultrasound treatment to a three weeks or so. I expect that the safe limit for this other device is probably longer as it is not as powerful. But the bone structure is something to think about with soundwaves used over long periods of time.

and I replied:

The User Guide that comes with my machine says that 'Unlike ultrasound, which can only be administered under qualified supervision, intrasonic therapy has in the past proved to be free of harmful side effects.' But we should really have the Drs view on this. I'll post an alert on the other board.

That I did, but no reply yet. I posted the original message because intra-sound had been helpful with my tennis elbow, but I would certainly not like to have called attention to a treatment that might be harmful to people, so would be most grateful for your view. Can sound waves at 16-20,000HZ have the weakening effects on bone that Alan reports of ultrasound and if so what amount and duration of use do you think would be safe and appropriate

Re: Intra-sonic pain relief: trying again

alan k on 11/05/00 at 06:59 (031973)

It may be the case that those levels of soundwaves are not harmful in the least. I hope I didn't muddy the waters with my comments about ultrasound.

Of course, stimulating blood flow to the injured site (or stimulating it just beyond that site at a further remove from the heart!) should help with pf. Several of my doctors believed that ultrasound does stimulate blood flow, so this device should too, one would think. Thank goodness I don't need it now or I would have shelled out the money (or credit) for the device long ago.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention and I look forward to hearing if it helps you or others who may try it.

yours,

alan k

Re: Intra-sonic pain relief: trying again

alan k on 11/05/00 at 06:59 (031973)

It may be the case that those levels of soundwaves are not harmful in the least. I hope I didn't muddy the waters with my comments about ultrasound.

Of course, stimulating blood flow to the injured site (or stimulating it just beyond that site at a further remove from the heart!) should help with pf. Several of my doctors believed that ultrasound does stimulate blood flow, so this device should too, one would think. Thank goodness I don't need it now or I would have shelled out the money (or credit) for the device long ago.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention and I look forward to hearing if it helps you or others who may try it.

yours,

alan k