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Is political discussion really appropriate here?

Posted by Nancy N on 11/08/00 at 17:31 (032294)

I know I contributed, however minorly, to one of the discussions earlier today, but I find myself wishing I hadn't. I really think that, despite the fact that this is the 'social' message board, we need to bear in mind that it is the 'support' board, too. To that end, I don't think political discussion is appropriate here. Until these threads started, I regarded all of you as my friends, colleagues, and fellow warriors against PF. Now, based on comments that have been made by some about various elections, I see some of those people very differently than I did before.

If we divide ourselves on party lines, can we really be a source of support for each other?

Let's not take this great space that Scott provides us, and which we have all come to cherish, and turn it into a battleground. That would not only be a waste, but a great shame

Re: What is appropriate here.

Bob G. on 11/08/00 at 22:47 (032330)

Message Number 32331
Re: MRI results View Thread
Posted by wendyn on 11/08/00 at 22:55


Eeeewww. I don't think I want anybody aspirating the bottom of anything on my foot! I believe my doctor feels that this is something of a 'red herring' - it's there - but he doesn't think it has anything to do with my foot pain.

He very well could be right - but I wonder - how do you get a cyst like this and will it go away or grow bigger?

I know that my post tib tendon was looked at as far as my ankle area in the MRI and it was okay

Re: Oh we're getting a little too serious in here.......

Kate on 11/09/00 at 13:03 (032361)

Hi all,
Here's my two cents.....
Get over it! Is this the social support board or the socialist party board? The great thing about being American is that we can voice our opinions, it's something to celebrate! And as for comments made about our first lady, (who is my opinion is one helluva human being) everyone has a right to say whatever they'd like to. You don't have to agree or disagree, and the expression of one's opinion, be it of religion or politics, or heel pain, is a wonderful right protected by our constitution, which is currently under the protection of the biggest womanizer this side of the continental divide! And I say this knowing a) I voted for him ! and would again in a heart-beat and b) I can say it without fear of being hunted down by some bunch of crazy people.
For the record, I am a single mom, raised roman catholic, a scot by heritage, and american by birth, a natural blonde turned red, a soul-searching aquarius, an ESWT coordinator with degrees in chemistry and biology, a fan of the Philadelphia Flyers, and Eagles, an all-around nice person, and very opinionated.
But we all know about opinions. Opinions are like #%@#^@^^&&#@'s everyone has one, and most of them stink!
So take an opinion for what it is, especially when it is offered by a man as kind and caring as our Dr.Z.
It's a joke people.....we do remember humor don't we?

Re: I wish I had two cents

Richard, C.Ped on 11/09/00 at 14:06 (032365)

I accept assignment for Medicare.....I wish I had two cents to put into this conversation....:-)

This gratuitous lighthearted moment was brought to you by Richard Graham....Certified Pedorthist to the stars!!! Well....not really, but it sounds cool

Re: Oh we're getting a little too serious in here.......

john h on 11/09/00 at 18:25 (032382)

i could not begin to list the subjects on this board that have been discussed that have nothing to do with foot problems. if we are to limit our discussions to certain subjects who is so wise among us to be the 'subject czar'. no subject offends me if it is in good taste and if it makes the person posting it feel better then tell about your mama,your dog, or your ill mannered spouse,your trip to greece or whatever. if one does not like the subject you do not have to read it. the old second ammendment sort of kicks in here although this is scotts board and if he say no to a subject i will abide. we have the social support board and poetry board which may or may not have nothing to do with our feet. right now we are amidst an historical event with an election on which half the nation and its people are split. half of my friends agree with me and half do not on the election but they are and will continue to be my friends. and as for you nancy s. if i ever come to maine i will bombard you with questions about why ed muskie cried in public. and were those cats on your socks really elephants. god bless america

Re: Is political discussion really appropriate here?RE Nancy

Dr. Zuckerman on 11/09/00 at 20:09 (032396)

In my office i like to talk about anything and everything that the patient wants to talk about including sex, religion and politics. Oh,
all our the sexual conversation came from the wonderful senior citizens that live next door to my office. There is a large senior citizen complex next to my office. All i ever wanted to and learned about the opposite sex comes from my grandmothers and grandfather next to my office. One of the best conversation was the comforting of a man in his early 90's that just broke off his five year relationship with his 85 year old girl friend . This taught me that things don't change and just because you are older doesn't mean that you stop caring about and have the ability to have a loving relatioship with the opposite sex. I still remember when it just came out that his girlfriend will come back crawling to him. She did and he eventually died and his girlfriend who looked like she was fifty died very soon after from a broken heart

Re: Real angle for us: How many did not vote due to the PAIN of standing in line?

alan k on 11/10/00 at 12:03 (032445)

I would want to know whether republicans or democrats are more likely to develop pf before I would support any pf-friendly voting procedures.

alan k

Re: Real angle for us: How many did not vote due to the PAIN of standing in line?

Kate on 11/10/00 at 12:30 (032450)

Now that I can relate to!
I didn't get to vote because I was stuck at the office until after 8!
I also was in a great deal of pain with my own foot!
I've finally started treating my heel pain (instead of ignoring it as I have done for over a year) and got my first cortisone injection.
I have to say, the boss gives as good a needle as I've ever had. It worked for about two days, and was screaming this morning. Now, I just have to talk myself into ESWT!

Kate

Re: Nancy, we all need to get over it at somepoint!

Kate on 11/10/00 at 12:43 (032451)

Nancy,
A fellow scot! I do believe that if everyone took themselves a little less seriously, we'd all be better off in the long run...including myself! I think we all tend to take everything so personally, and that acceptance and tolerance are as important virtues as any other.
I have a very idealic view of people, and tend to accept everyone at face value, including other points of view ( although I freely admit to preferring my own!)
I too love heelspurs.com, and think it provides a wonderful arena for a great group of people!

Re: I wish I had two cents...I'll give you two of mine!

Kate on 11/10/00 at 12:46 (032452)

You truly are one of a kind Richard......but pedorthic to the stars?
You're right....you are a dork! Just kidding!

Kate

Re: I wish I had two cents...I'll give you two of mine!

Richard, C.Ped on 11/10/00 at 14:00 (032455)

whoa.....you called yourself a dork the other day as well:-)
I am the pedorthist to possible future athletic stars. I deal with the local minor league baseball team for the NY Mets. Sorry Yankee fans..I had to stay true to the Mets during the series.

BTW...I can't believe you are actually still in the office on a Friday afternoon. Dr. Z must be keeping his eye on your time card.
Sorry, I had to take a shot back at ya! :-)
Richard

Re: Real angle for us: How many did not vote due to the PAIN of standing in line?

john h on 11/10/00 at 15:02 (032461)

in our hillbilly state of arkansas we now use a computer to vote. you cannot vote for two people or dork up unless you are blind. i voted early and stood in line 1 hour and yes it hurt my feet

Re: What is appropriate here.

Dr. Zuckerman on 11/10/00 at 16:53 (032468)

I loved the fire in kim's initial thread. Go Bush. I could feel her
spirit with her choice of words. I got to know her spirit, with this I pictured her in a rally supporting her candidate. We in Jersey never had anyone who came close or will probaby be the next president of the USA. That's pretty exciting. So go Whitman.!!!! I really enjoyed the political side of everyone yesterday. Again i did get carried away with my foul hiliary comments. I guess i was trying to prove to John h that i was one of the boys

Re: Babs Weighs In

Beverly on 11/10/00 at 17:35 (032471)

Great discussion. I tend to go through phases, trends, moods of a particular decade. I have been at least half of the above mentioned items at one time or another.

We change with age. In my twenties, I was part hippie, part feminist, leaned WAY to the left. I marched on every good liberal cause that could be marched on. The older I get, I find am creeping steadily into 'the establishment.' I guess that is what happens to babyboomers when we hit middle age.

In the end, I was too much of a clothes horse to make a good hippie. And I wanted to be catered to and waited on in Southern Bellehood to much make a good feminist. I always say, 'Let that man carry the heavy stuff and pay for dinner. It makes him feel good! But I gave it the old college try!

See ya,
TexBev

Re: Babs Weighs In

Nancy N on 11/10/00 at 22:39 (032486)

Bev--

I think your 'switch' is fairly common. In fact, Winston Churchill once said that if you weren't a liberal in your 20s, you had no heart, and if you weren't a conservative by your 40s, you have no brain. So I guess it is a common progression. I seem to have gone the other way, though I guess by Churchill's estimate, I still have time to flip back again! I think this is also why states like Florida, with a high population of senior citizens, are often considered to be conservative states.

This is all speculation of course, but there does seem to be at least a grain of truth to it

Re: What is appropriate here.

Bob G. on 11/08/00 at 22:47 (032330)

Message Number 32331
Re: MRI results View Thread
Posted by wendyn on 11/08/00 at 22:55


Eeeewww. I don't think I want anybody aspirating the bottom of anything on my foot! I believe my doctor feels that this is something of a 'red herring' - it's there - but he doesn't think it has anything to do with my foot pain.

He very well could be right - but I wonder - how do you get a cyst like this and will it go away or grow bigger?

I know that my post tib tendon was looked at as far as my ankle area in the MRI and it was okay

Re: Oh we're getting a little too serious in here.......

Kate on 11/09/00 at 13:03 (032361)

Hi all,
Here's my two cents.....
Get over it! Is this the social support board or the socialist party board? The great thing about being American is that we can voice our opinions, it's something to celebrate! And as for comments made about our first lady, (who is my opinion is one helluva human being) everyone has a right to say whatever they'd like to. You don't have to agree or disagree, and the expression of one's opinion, be it of religion or politics, or heel pain, is a wonderful right protected by our constitution, which is currently under the protection of the biggest womanizer this side of the continental divide! And I say this knowing a) I voted for him ! and would again in a heart-beat and b) I can say it without fear of being hunted down by some bunch of crazy people.
For the record, I am a single mom, raised roman catholic, a scot by heritage, and american by birth, a natural blonde turned red, a soul-searching aquarius, an ESWT coordinator with degrees in chemistry and biology, a fan of the Philadelphia Flyers, and Eagles, an all-around nice person, and very opinionated.
But we all know about opinions. Opinions are like #%@#^@^^&&#@'s everyone has one, and most of them stink!
So take an opinion for what it is, especially when it is offered by a man as kind and caring as our Dr.Z.
It's a joke people.....we do remember humor don't we?

Re: I wish I had two cents

Richard, C.Ped on 11/09/00 at 14:06 (032365)

I accept assignment for Medicare.....I wish I had two cents to put into this conversation....:-)

This gratuitous lighthearted moment was brought to you by Richard Graham....Certified Pedorthist to the stars!!! Well....not really, but it sounds cool

Re: Oh we're getting a little too serious in here.......

john h on 11/09/00 at 18:25 (032382)

i could not begin to list the subjects on this board that have been discussed that have nothing to do with foot problems. if we are to limit our discussions to certain subjects who is so wise among us to be the 'subject czar'. no subject offends me if it is in good taste and if it makes the person posting it feel better then tell about your mama,your dog, or your ill mannered spouse,your trip to greece or whatever. if one does not like the subject you do not have to read it. the old second ammendment sort of kicks in here although this is scotts board and if he say no to a subject i will abide. we have the social support board and poetry board which may or may not have nothing to do with our feet. right now we are amidst an historical event with an election on which half the nation and its people are split. half of my friends agree with me and half do not on the election but they are and will continue to be my friends. and as for you nancy s. if i ever come to maine i will bombard you with questions about why ed muskie cried in public. and were those cats on your socks really elephants. god bless america

Re: Is political discussion really appropriate here?RE Nancy

Dr. Zuckerman on 11/09/00 at 20:09 (032396)

In my office i like to talk about anything and everything that the patient wants to talk about including sex, religion and politics. Oh,
all our the sexual conversation came from the wonderful senior citizens that live next door to my office. There is a large senior citizen complex next to my office. All i ever wanted to and learned about the opposite sex comes from my grandmothers and grandfather next to my office. One of the best conversation was the comforting of a man in his early 90's that just broke off his five year relationship with his 85 year old girl friend . This taught me that things don't change and just because you are older doesn't mean that you stop caring about and have the ability to have a loving relatioship with the opposite sex. I still remember when it just came out that his girlfriend will come back crawling to him. She did and he eventually died and his girlfriend who looked like she was fifty died very soon after from a broken heart

Re: Real angle for us: How many did not vote due to the PAIN of standing in line?

alan k on 11/10/00 at 12:03 (032445)

I would want to know whether republicans or democrats are more likely to develop pf before I would support any pf-friendly voting procedures.

alan k

Re: Real angle for us: How many did not vote due to the PAIN of standing in line?

Kate on 11/10/00 at 12:30 (032450)

Now that I can relate to!
I didn't get to vote because I was stuck at the office until after 8!
I also was in a great deal of pain with my own foot!
I've finally started treating my heel pain (instead of ignoring it as I have done for over a year) and got my first cortisone injection.
I have to say, the boss gives as good a needle as I've ever had. It worked for about two days, and was screaming this morning. Now, I just have to talk myself into ESWT!

Kate

Re: Nancy, we all need to get over it at somepoint!

Kate on 11/10/00 at 12:43 (032451)

Nancy,
A fellow scot! I do believe that if everyone took themselves a little less seriously, we'd all be better off in the long run...including myself! I think we all tend to take everything so personally, and that acceptance and tolerance are as important virtues as any other.
I have a very idealic view of people, and tend to accept everyone at face value, including other points of view ( although I freely admit to preferring my own!)
I too love heelspurs.com, and think it provides a wonderful arena for a great group of people!

Re: I wish I had two cents...I'll give you two of mine!

Kate on 11/10/00 at 12:46 (032452)

You truly are one of a kind Richard......but pedorthic to the stars?
You're right....you are a dork! Just kidding!

Kate

Re: I wish I had two cents...I'll give you two of mine!

Richard, C.Ped on 11/10/00 at 14:00 (032455)

whoa.....you called yourself a dork the other day as well:-)
I am the pedorthist to possible future athletic stars. I deal with the local minor league baseball team for the NY Mets. Sorry Yankee fans..I had to stay true to the Mets during the series.

BTW...I can't believe you are actually still in the office on a Friday afternoon. Dr. Z must be keeping his eye on your time card.
Sorry, I had to take a shot back at ya! :-)
Richard

Re: Real angle for us: How many did not vote due to the PAIN of standing in line?

john h on 11/10/00 at 15:02 (032461)

in our hillbilly state of arkansas we now use a computer to vote. you cannot vote for two people or dork up unless you are blind. i voted early and stood in line 1 hour and yes it hurt my feet

Re: What is appropriate here.

Dr. Zuckerman on 11/10/00 at 16:53 (032468)

I loved the fire in kim's initial thread. Go Bush. I could feel her
spirit with her choice of words. I got to know her spirit, with this I pictured her in a rally supporting her candidate. We in Jersey never had anyone who came close or will probaby be the next president of the USA. That's pretty exciting. So go Whitman.!!!! I really enjoyed the political side of everyone yesterday. Again i did get carried away with my foul hiliary comments. I guess i was trying to prove to John h that i was one of the boys

Re: Babs Weighs In

Beverly on 11/10/00 at 17:35 (032471)

Great discussion. I tend to go through phases, trends, moods of a particular decade. I have been at least half of the above mentioned items at one time or another.

We change with age. In my twenties, I was part hippie, part feminist, leaned WAY to the left. I marched on every good liberal cause that could be marched on. The older I get, I find am creeping steadily into 'the establishment.' I guess that is what happens to babyboomers when we hit middle age.

In the end, I was too much of a clothes horse to make a good hippie. And I wanted to be catered to and waited on in Southern Bellehood to much make a good feminist. I always say, 'Let that man carry the heavy stuff and pay for dinner. It makes him feel good! But I gave it the old college try!

See ya,
TexBev

Re: Babs Weighs In

Nancy N on 11/10/00 at 22:39 (032486)

Bev--

I think your 'switch' is fairly common. In fact, Winston Churchill once said that if you weren't a liberal in your 20s, you had no heart, and if you weren't a conservative by your 40s, you have no brain. So I guess it is a common progression. I seem to have gone the other way, though I guess by Churchill's estimate, I still have time to flip back again! I think this is also why states like Florida, with a high population of senior citizens, are often considered to be conservative states.

This is all speculation of course, but there does seem to be at least a grain of truth to it