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Planter Fasciitis

Posted by Tracey A on 1/07/01 at 13:57 (036072)

I've had 2 surgeries since June 2000 and I feel like I'm walking on a rock and I did'nt have that before surgery. To walk is very painful and I can only walk short periods at a time. I feel worse since surgery and I have numbness in my heel, I was told that the first doctor made the incision to far back on my heel and he cut the nerves. Is this permanet? I'm going to 3rd doctor for another opinion. If a MRI comes back normal,does that mean there could not be any problem with my foot? I can't seem to get any answers to these questions.... Will I get better and do you have any advice to help? Will I need more surgery?

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Dr. Zuckerman on 1/07/01 at 14:33 (036075)

Look for any external problems such as hernited disc. Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome. I don't understand what is meant by too far back. The closer you cut to the insertion for the pf the better the chance for not cutting any nerves. The opposite is true the further away from the heel insertion the greater the chance for any nerve cutting. Anyway the surgery is over and you need pain relief What is the plan for this pain. ??

Oh! the rock feeling could be scar tissue which can be addressed. I need more information to guild you better.

Th numbness is very typical from any type of heel spur surgery. The rock is due to scar tissue. So get to a physical therapyist as soon as possilbe

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Dr. Biehler on 1/07/01 at 14:35 (036076)

You have to wait to see how much of the numbness goes away. The location of the inscission shouldn't realy be a problem. If the nerves are cut, then where is your pain? The MRI won't show the nerves but might show what else is going on. Dr. B.

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Tracey A on 1/07/01 at 15:39 (036083)

Doctors- Thanks for the fast reply. The first incision was made on the inside of my heel at the end of my heel, The 2nd doctor made his incision at the end of the first one and curved down under my arch. He told me he does not go far back because the nerves run down there and they can be cut. Sometimes the pain is so bad that I have to walk on my toes and at night it hurts so bad that it makes me cry. My doctor has washed is hands of me because my MRI came out normal. He says there is no more he can do and I must live with the pain. That does not sound like good advice to me. The pain I have now is not the same I had before surgery. The first doctor gave up on me he was a podiatrist, he sent me to a orthopedic surgeron, who has given up too. I'm going to another doctor for a 3rd opinion. Please anymore advise would be helpful. Also I have found the pain is moving up the back of heel and up my leg. I have also been to Physical Therapy 3 times, once with the first surgery and twice after the second surgery,nothing has helped.

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Dr. Zuckerman on 1/07/01 at 17:07 (036090)

I will obtain the opininon of a physiatrist who manages chronic pain.
You are going to need an EMG

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Dr. Zuckerman on 1/07/01 at 19:39 (036102)

You need alot more physical therapy and alot longer. Two visit isn't going to help you. The pain going up the leg is probaby due to achilles tendonitis and or Flexor hallux longus or dig. longus tendonitis. All of the posterior leg muscles are hurting due to your compensation from the foot pain. It may be a great idea to go to non-weight bearing. Swimming is another great idea. Do something . Take charge this is your foot and health.

Get a physical therapyist and doctor that is going to spend the time to help . In addition make a committment to physical therapy now.

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Tracey A on 1/07/01 at 20:55 (036112)

I've gone 3 times and each time I went for 6 weeks. I spent alot of time in therapy and it hasn't helped. Your right it is my foot and yes I'm doing my best to take charge, but I'm not the one with a medical degree and don't you think its up to the doctor to know what things can be done. It's really to bad that a doctor can give up on a patient so fast just because they are stumped. I'snt it your job to give the best care to a patient who is in need. My doctor is the one who stopped the therapy not me I was at every appt. and on time. Answer this does a MRI show everything and if it is normal does that give a doctor the right to release them from care when it is obvious that the patient is still in alot of pain and is not close to being alright? I don't think it is very good practice to let a patient continue in pain when you (DOCTOR) are the ones that have the resources at your disposal. I'm upset that now I am having different and more pain after surgery. I trusted these doctors and I feel that I didn't and I believe now that I am not getting the best care. Yes, I've done the things that my doctor recommended and I don't feel that it my fault that I'm not in charge of my recovery. I've had foot tape,I've worn a air cast and I've had the surgery TWICE! So please tell me what I can do??????

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Nancy S. on 1/07/01 at 21:55 (036117)

Hi Tracey, I'm not a doctor or podiatrist, but I've been dealing with PF and three kinds of tendonitis for over a year and a half. I never had surgery.
I do empathize with your plight. It took me a whole year to find a doctor who really took an interest in my case and seemed determined to help me get better -- and I AM finally improving, though I have a ways to go yet.
Of course, I don't know the specifics of why your doctor discharged you, but in general I think that to discharge a patient who is still in pain -- especially after performing surgery on that patient! -- is appalling. My doctor is a sports medicine specialist, and he was determined to help me with 'the worst case of tendonitis' he's ever seen (his words). Another example on this board of someone with a responsible doctor is Laurie R, who has a very tough case, and her doctor never gives up -- is now consulting with other specialists to learn what to do for her.
Unfortunately, many doctors, like other people in different lines of work, prefer to deal only with standard problems that have quick solutions. I urge you to keep looking for a doctor who will take a real interest and see this thing through with you to a better result. It took me four tries. I'm sorry, I can't remember your whole history now, but have you considered ESWT? It can be used very successfully even after failed surgeries.
You sound like you've been active in your treatment and been trying very hard, so don't give up. Keep us posted, won't you? Best of luck to you.
Nancy

Re: Planter Fasciitis -- p.s. to Tracey

Nancy S. on 1/07/01 at 22:05 (036119)

Tracey, I don't know if physical therapy is THE answer for you -- I know you've tried it quite substantially -- but I'd just like to add that it took me six months of physical therapy to finally see substantial improvement. Plus I've worked on my feet at home with the Acu-Flex, which has been a great help to me (see Scott's Products Page on this site if you're interested).
That lump you write of could well be scar tissue, which might take really lengthy PT, with deep massage, to break it up. But I think the first step is to find a doctor who cares, can evaluate your condition, test for what is or isn't going on with you, and set up a good treatment plan.
Nancy

Re: Planter Fasciitis -- p.s. to Tracey

Dr. Zuckerman on 1/07/01 at 23:02 (036122)

I agree and wish I could examine you right now. It does sound like you have scar tissue from the area where the fascia was cut.

Additonal physcial therapy. A pain management specialist could at least deal with this pain. I would listen to what Nancy has to say.

I didn't want to give you the impression I didn't care it's just that I don't know the answer without examinating you. I will try to guild you . I can understand the fear, frustration and anger you are going thru.

I would see a pain management specialist in addition to physical therapist so long as it isn't too painful and difficult.

This board and myself will help you .

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Kay S on 1/08/01 at 08:47 (036134)

Hi Tracey--you can have a normal MRI and still have something wrong. I have had pf for almost five years, and last April my MRI was normal....but the pain is NOT normal, so don't start thinking you are crazy. (even though after what you've been through, you may wonder!!!) Do you know any nurses or other medical people personally?? Sometimes they have inside information on who does what the best, and maybe can point you in the right direction. Don't give up trying, and I would consider reporting your latest doctor to the medical association if he is actually telling you to 'live with the pain' and not planning to send you to a pain clinic or make some other worthwhile suggestion. Do you live near a large city where there are more medical choices? Tell us where you live and maybe someone on this board will know of a better doctor than you have seen--someone who will work with you to get to the bottom of this!
Good luck, and stay in touch. We care.
Kay

Re: Planter Fasciitis -- p.s. to Tracey

Tracey A on 1/08/01 at 11:24 (036148)

NANCY, tHANKS FOR THE FEED BACK IT REALLY HELPS TO HEAR IT FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS THE SAME PROBLEM. I IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING UP A APPT. WITH A SPORTS MED DOCTOR MY DAUGHTER SAW HIM FOR HER ARM YEARS AGO AND WE REALLY LIKE HIM. YES, ITS TRUE THE SECOND DOCTOR DID REALEASE ME BACK TO WORK AND NOW REFUSES TO TALK TO ME. HOW CAN A DOCTOR JUST DROP A PATIENT? ONE WHO IS ISN'T MAKING PROGRESS. THE LAST FORM HE FILLED OUT TO MY WORK SAID THAT I WAS UNABLE TO CARE FOR MYSELF AND THAT I HAD NOT MADE ANY PROGRESS. HE SAID I WOULD PROBABLY RETURN TO WORK IN 3-4 MONTHS. THE PAIN AT TIMES IS UNBEARABLE. THANKS FOR THE INPUT I WILL NOT GIVE UP!!!!!

Re: Planter Fasciitis

TRACEY A on 1/08/01 at 11:30 (036149)

KAY, THANKS FOR THE CONCERN. I LIVE IN OKLAHOMA CITY IT A PRETTY LARGE TOWN, YOU WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO CARED. IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE OR HAVE MORE INPUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND IF YOU NEED TO TALK I'M HERE.

Re: Planter Fasciitis -- p.s. to Tracey

Nancy S. on 1/08/01 at 11:33 (036150)

That's it, Tracey, don't give up! Leave the irresponsible doctors behind (and maybe report them, as Kay suggested), and find a good one -- they're out there. The sports med. doc you already know sounds like a very good bet. You can be helped and should be helped, so stick with it and do keep coming to this site with questions and for support, etc. This site has helped me more than anything. Have you read Scott's PF Book, by the way? If not, I recommend that you do -- it contains tons of good information about the many factors involved in heel pain and its causes and treatment. Best of luck to you.
Nancy

Re: Planter Fasciitis

cindyp on 1/08/01 at 21:46 (036192)

Well from someone who has had a very long difficult road to hoe in terms of getting doctors to co operate I understand your frustration. It seems as if you are yelling at the top of your lungs and no one is listening. Been there and done that. My only advice would be this. All of us here have some things in common. We have pain that is killing us. If not physically at least mentally. Pain over the long haul will physically and mentally change you. The other thing is that we want it to stop. Now granted I don't have pf I have another problem. But I can relate and I just want you to know that you're not alone. You can come here and vent, rant, rave, scream and yell and all will listen, understand and try to be there. You can ask for guidance and it is given freely and helpfully. And might I add appreciatevly. Keep plugging you will find your help and your answers. When you do we will all celebrate with you and some of us will be jealous because we are still struggling but we will be happy for you.

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Tracey A on 1/08/01 at 23:06 (036194)

Cindy, Thanks for the kind words. Whats really hard is my family doesn't understand whats happening to me. I think they are sick and tired of hearing me complain about the pain. I know there must be 1 doctor who can help but I haven't met him or her. I never realized that this would be so painful, I thought have the surgery feel better. My first doctor never explained that it could be a long road to recover, he said I would be up and better in 1 month well I'm in my 8th month of recovering. I haven't been able to pay my bills so I may have to file bankrupcy soon, my credit is shot. I would have never gone for the surgery if he had be more informative of the possible complications and the recovery time. My life has changed so much since last June. I can't roller blade or take walks with my husband. I find myself crying at night when I go to bed my foot hurts so bad, I've often thought it would be better to just cut off my foot. I'm in more pain now than before the surgery and I really feel that this is permanent. I glad this website is here and I glad to talk to others in the same situation. It feels alittle better to know there's others in my corner......THANK-YOU ALL

Re: Planter Fasciitis Questions for the Doctors)

Tracey A on 1/10/01 at 22:52 (036375)

Doctors, I'm going to a new doctor on Tuesday, he is an foot and ankle specialist. My old doctor who did my last surgery refuses to see or talk to me because my MRI came back normal, What does a MRI show and could they have missed something? I did not have dye injected during the MRI. With this new doctor what questions could you suggest I ask him? Any help would be grateful. Are there any tests I should ask about? Thanks for being here..........Tracey

Re: Planter Fasciitis Questions for the Doctors)

Cindy K on 1/13/01 at 08:21 (036537)

Hi Tracy,it is interesting that some doctors are not familiar with EWST-ossatron/ossaborn treatment. It might be something you will want to ask your doctor if he has heard about this procedure and if you are a candidate for such treatment. My Podiatrist had never heard of the treatment, I was scheduled for PF surgery...and thankfully found out myself about this txment. I think it is important that you continue to take charge of your own healing process. Doctors can not know everything, it is an art....and sometimes just a good guess at what is wrong with their patients. Also, I too had a doctor who preferred pain over pain relief. His theory and an old one at that, if you are in pain you are less likely to walk and that is a good thing 8-{ that simply does not pay the bills. I learned from Kay and from others on this site, that is hogwash..and don't buy into it. Do you think he would just ride out the pain if he was in your shoes? I would also take the time to write out your different pain levels rated from 0 no pain to 10 unbearable pain. I think when a Doctor asks you what pain level you are at it helps to describe it and she/he can better understand. Dr. Z suggested, on this site, that to be able to describe what activities you did at one time before the pain...and what activities you do today...what specifically has the pain prevented you to do, and where do you want to be pain free. I think with the additional work load our doctors are faced with (HMO) they no longer have the time to listen. I have had some stories to tell you about not listening. Anyway, by writing your history down, shorten up your thoughts and keep to facts, it can help both you and the Doctor get to the bottom line, and you will be less likely to forget some of the important facts. Give your story to the nurse to allow the doctor time to read it before he comes in...that will save some time. If he doesn't take the time to read it...then you know he may not be the one for you. I wish you great success on Tuesday, keep us posted. Hang in there. Cindy K.

Re: Planter Fasciitis Questions for the Doctors)

Kay S on 1/13/01 at 11:25 (036555)

Tracy--Gosh, that Cindy is a quick learner!! She has given you some excellent advice concerning how to approach this with the docs. It is important that you keep track of what you are able to do, how bad it makes you feel when you do certain things, what makes it all feel better, when the pain is the worst, etc. And Cindy's suggestion to write it down and give it to the doctor to review prior to your visit is a terrific way to 'cut to the chase' with the doctor.
I agree---you do not have to suffer in silence, and your needs should not be pushed aside or ignored. If the doc can't do anything about certain things, then he/she needs to tell you that, and offer further suggestions to you.
I'd like to say 'be patient' but I know that is not easy to do. However, if you take this all step by step, one day at a time, it will be easier for you to cope.
Good luck.
Kay
PS--thanks for the compliment, Cindy. I feel like I got a pat on the back!

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Cindy K. on 1/14/01 at 11:56 (036595)

HI Kay S,
Hope you are doing well, I think of you often and hope that you are pain free today!! I tried to get you off line but my message bounced back..not sure why. Take care of yourself!

Cindy K.

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Kay S on 1/14/01 at 12:31 (036596)

Hi Cindy-- did you try to send an email and it didn't work? That happened to me last week too and I don't know what is wrong, so try using the above email by clicking and see if that works. My computer has kicked me off, locked up, and all sorts of goofy things this week.
Thanks for wishing me pain-free, but that is certainly a LONG way off for me. However, as long as I am going in the right direction with this, I will try to be patient. I do think I am better than I was before I had the eswt in December. Some days I can't explain just how, because I still have a lot of pain, but I guess I am not feeling quite as desperate as I was then. That makes me think that I am a little better.
It seems to me that there is a very, very fine line between painful but tolerable/painful but so excruciating you cannot think of anything else. On those bad days, it may also have something to do with one's frame of mind. And the better days may also be when things are going well personally.
Just a thought.
Kay

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Dr. Zuckerman on 1/07/01 at 14:33 (036075)

Look for any external problems such as hernited disc. Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome. I don't understand what is meant by too far back. The closer you cut to the insertion for the pf the better the chance for not cutting any nerves. The opposite is true the further away from the heel insertion the greater the chance for any nerve cutting. Anyway the surgery is over and you need pain relief What is the plan for this pain. ??

Oh! the rock feeling could be scar tissue which can be addressed. I need more information to guild you better.

Th numbness is very typical from any type of heel spur surgery. The rock is due to scar tissue. So get to a physical therapyist as soon as possilbe

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Dr. Biehler on 1/07/01 at 14:35 (036076)

You have to wait to see how much of the numbness goes away. The location of the inscission shouldn't realy be a problem. If the nerves are cut, then where is your pain? The MRI won't show the nerves but might show what else is going on. Dr. B.

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Tracey A on 1/07/01 at 15:39 (036083)

Doctors- Thanks for the fast reply. The first incision was made on the inside of my heel at the end of my heel, The 2nd doctor made his incision at the end of the first one and curved down under my arch. He told me he does not go far back because the nerves run down there and they can be cut. Sometimes the pain is so bad that I have to walk on my toes and at night it hurts so bad that it makes me cry. My doctor has washed is hands of me because my MRI came out normal. He says there is no more he can do and I must live with the pain. That does not sound like good advice to me. The pain I have now is not the same I had before surgery. The first doctor gave up on me he was a podiatrist, he sent me to a orthopedic surgeron, who has given up too. I'm going to another doctor for a 3rd opinion. Please anymore advise would be helpful. Also I have found the pain is moving up the back of heel and up my leg. I have also been to Physical Therapy 3 times, once with the first surgery and twice after the second surgery,nothing has helped.

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Dr. Zuckerman on 1/07/01 at 17:07 (036090)

I will obtain the opininon of a physiatrist who manages chronic pain.
You are going to need an EMG

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Dr. Zuckerman on 1/07/01 at 19:39 (036102)

You need alot more physical therapy and alot longer. Two visit isn't going to help you. The pain going up the leg is probaby due to achilles tendonitis and or Flexor hallux longus or dig. longus tendonitis. All of the posterior leg muscles are hurting due to your compensation from the foot pain. It may be a great idea to go to non-weight bearing. Swimming is another great idea. Do something . Take charge this is your foot and health.

Get a physical therapyist and doctor that is going to spend the time to help . In addition make a committment to physical therapy now.

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Tracey A on 1/07/01 at 20:55 (036112)

I've gone 3 times and each time I went for 6 weeks. I spent alot of time in therapy and it hasn't helped. Your right it is my foot and yes I'm doing my best to take charge, but I'm not the one with a medical degree and don't you think its up to the doctor to know what things can be done. It's really to bad that a doctor can give up on a patient so fast just because they are stumped. I'snt it your job to give the best care to a patient who is in need. My doctor is the one who stopped the therapy not me I was at every appt. and on time. Answer this does a MRI show everything and if it is normal does that give a doctor the right to release them from care when it is obvious that the patient is still in alot of pain and is not close to being alright? I don't think it is very good practice to let a patient continue in pain when you (DOCTOR) are the ones that have the resources at your disposal. I'm upset that now I am having different and more pain after surgery. I trusted these doctors and I feel that I didn't and I believe now that I am not getting the best care. Yes, I've done the things that my doctor recommended and I don't feel that it my fault that I'm not in charge of my recovery. I've had foot tape,I've worn a air cast and I've had the surgery TWICE! So please tell me what I can do??????

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Nancy S. on 1/07/01 at 21:55 (036117)

Hi Tracey, I'm not a doctor or podiatrist, but I've been dealing with PF and three kinds of tendonitis for over a year and a half. I never had surgery.
I do empathize with your plight. It took me a whole year to find a doctor who really took an interest in my case and seemed determined to help me get better -- and I AM finally improving, though I have a ways to go yet.
Of course, I don't know the specifics of why your doctor discharged you, but in general I think that to discharge a patient who is still in pain -- especially after performing surgery on that patient! -- is appalling. My doctor is a sports medicine specialist, and he was determined to help me with 'the worst case of tendonitis' he's ever seen (his words). Another example on this board of someone with a responsible doctor is Laurie R, who has a very tough case, and her doctor never gives up -- is now consulting with other specialists to learn what to do for her.
Unfortunately, many doctors, like other people in different lines of work, prefer to deal only with standard problems that have quick solutions. I urge you to keep looking for a doctor who will take a real interest and see this thing through with you to a better result. It took me four tries. I'm sorry, I can't remember your whole history now, but have you considered ESWT? It can be used very successfully even after failed surgeries.
You sound like you've been active in your treatment and been trying very hard, so don't give up. Keep us posted, won't you? Best of luck to you.
Nancy

Re: Planter Fasciitis -- p.s. to Tracey

Nancy S. on 1/07/01 at 22:05 (036119)

Tracey, I don't know if physical therapy is THE answer for you -- I know you've tried it quite substantially -- but I'd just like to add that it took me six months of physical therapy to finally see substantial improvement. Plus I've worked on my feet at home with the Acu-Flex, which has been a great help to me (see Scott's Products Page on this site if you're interested).
That lump you write of could well be scar tissue, which might take really lengthy PT, with deep massage, to break it up. But I think the first step is to find a doctor who cares, can evaluate your condition, test for what is or isn't going on with you, and set up a good treatment plan.
Nancy

Re: Planter Fasciitis -- p.s. to Tracey

Dr. Zuckerman on 1/07/01 at 23:02 (036122)

I agree and wish I could examine you right now. It does sound like you have scar tissue from the area where the fascia was cut.

Additonal physcial therapy. A pain management specialist could at least deal with this pain. I would listen to what Nancy has to say.

I didn't want to give you the impression I didn't care it's just that I don't know the answer without examinating you. I will try to guild you . I can understand the fear, frustration and anger you are going thru.

I would see a pain management specialist in addition to physical therapist so long as it isn't too painful and difficult.

This board and myself will help you .

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Kay S on 1/08/01 at 08:47 (036134)

Hi Tracey--you can have a normal MRI and still have something wrong. I have had pf for almost five years, and last April my MRI was normal....but the pain is NOT normal, so don't start thinking you are crazy. (even though after what you've been through, you may wonder!!!) Do you know any nurses or other medical people personally?? Sometimes they have inside information on who does what the best, and maybe can point you in the right direction. Don't give up trying, and I would consider reporting your latest doctor to the medical association if he is actually telling you to 'live with the pain' and not planning to send you to a pain clinic or make some other worthwhile suggestion. Do you live near a large city where there are more medical choices? Tell us where you live and maybe someone on this board will know of a better doctor than you have seen--someone who will work with you to get to the bottom of this!
Good luck, and stay in touch. We care.
Kay

Re: Planter Fasciitis -- p.s. to Tracey

Tracey A on 1/08/01 at 11:24 (036148)

NANCY, tHANKS FOR THE FEED BACK IT REALLY HELPS TO HEAR IT FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS THE SAME PROBLEM. I IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING UP A APPT. WITH A SPORTS MED DOCTOR MY DAUGHTER SAW HIM FOR HER ARM YEARS AGO AND WE REALLY LIKE HIM. YES, ITS TRUE THE SECOND DOCTOR DID REALEASE ME BACK TO WORK AND NOW REFUSES TO TALK TO ME. HOW CAN A DOCTOR JUST DROP A PATIENT? ONE WHO IS ISN'T MAKING PROGRESS. THE LAST FORM HE FILLED OUT TO MY WORK SAID THAT I WAS UNABLE TO CARE FOR MYSELF AND THAT I HAD NOT MADE ANY PROGRESS. HE SAID I WOULD PROBABLY RETURN TO WORK IN 3-4 MONTHS. THE PAIN AT TIMES IS UNBEARABLE. THANKS FOR THE INPUT I WILL NOT GIVE UP!!!!!

Re: Planter Fasciitis

TRACEY A on 1/08/01 at 11:30 (036149)

KAY, THANKS FOR THE CONCERN. I LIVE IN OKLAHOMA CITY IT A PRETTY LARGE TOWN, YOU WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO CARED. IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE OR HAVE MORE INPUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND IF YOU NEED TO TALK I'M HERE.

Re: Planter Fasciitis -- p.s. to Tracey

Nancy S. on 1/08/01 at 11:33 (036150)

That's it, Tracey, don't give up! Leave the irresponsible doctors behind (and maybe report them, as Kay suggested), and find a good one -- they're out there. The sports med. doc you already know sounds like a very good bet. You can be helped and should be helped, so stick with it and do keep coming to this site with questions and for support, etc. This site has helped me more than anything. Have you read Scott's PF Book, by the way? If not, I recommend that you do -- it contains tons of good information about the many factors involved in heel pain and its causes and treatment. Best of luck to you.
Nancy

Re: Planter Fasciitis

cindyp on 1/08/01 at 21:46 (036192)

Well from someone who has had a very long difficult road to hoe in terms of getting doctors to co operate I understand your frustration. It seems as if you are yelling at the top of your lungs and no one is listening. Been there and done that. My only advice would be this. All of us here have some things in common. We have pain that is killing us. If not physically at least mentally. Pain over the long haul will physically and mentally change you. The other thing is that we want it to stop. Now granted I don't have pf I have another problem. But I can relate and I just want you to know that you're not alone. You can come here and vent, rant, rave, scream and yell and all will listen, understand and try to be there. You can ask for guidance and it is given freely and helpfully. And might I add appreciatevly. Keep plugging you will find your help and your answers. When you do we will all celebrate with you and some of us will be jealous because we are still struggling but we will be happy for you.

Re: Planter Fasciitis

Tracey A on 1/08/01 at 23:06 (036194)

Cindy, Thanks for the kind words. Whats really hard is my family doesn't understand whats happening to me. I think they are sick and tired of hearing me complain about the pain. I know there must be 1 doctor who can help but I haven't met him or her. I never realized that this would be so painful, I thought have the surgery feel better. My first doctor never explained that it could be a long road to recover, he said I would be up and better in 1 month well I'm in my 8th month of recovering. I haven't been able to pay my bills so I may have to file bankrupcy soon, my credit is shot. I would have never gone for the surgery if he had be more informative of the possible complications and the recovery time. My life has changed so much since last June. I can't roller blade or take walks with my husband. I find myself crying at night when I go to bed my foot hurts so bad, I've often thought it would be better to just cut off my foot. I'm in more pain now than before the surgery and I really feel that this is permanent. I glad this website is here and I glad to talk to others in the same situation. It feels alittle better to know there's others in my corner......THANK-YOU ALL

Re: Planter Fasciitis Questions for the Doctors)

Tracey A on 1/10/01 at 22:52 (036375)

Doctors, I'm going to a new doctor on Tuesday, he is an foot and ankle specialist. My old doctor who did my last surgery refuses to see or talk to me because my MRI came back normal, What does a MRI show and could they have missed something? I did not have dye injected during the MRI. With this new doctor what questions could you suggest I ask him? Any help would be grateful. Are there any tests I should ask about? Thanks for being here..........Tracey

Re: Planter Fasciitis Questions for the Doctors)

Cindy K on 1/13/01 at 08:21 (036537)

Hi Tracy,it is interesting that some doctors are not familiar with EWST-ossatron/ossaborn treatment. It might be something you will want to ask your doctor if he has heard about this procedure and if you are a candidate for such treatment. My Podiatrist had never heard of the treatment, I was scheduled for PF surgery...and thankfully found out myself about this txment. I think it is important that you continue to take charge of your own healing process. Doctors can not know everything, it is an art....and sometimes just a good guess at what is wrong with their patients. Also, I too had a doctor who preferred pain over pain relief. His theory and an old one at that, if you are in pain you are less likely to walk and that is a good thing 8-{ that simply does not pay the bills. I learned from Kay and from others on this site, that is hogwash..and don't buy into it. Do you think he would just ride out the pain if he was in your shoes? I would also take the time to write out your different pain levels rated from 0 no pain to 10 unbearable pain. I think when a Doctor asks you what pain level you are at it helps to describe it and she/he can better understand. Dr. Z suggested, on this site, that to be able to describe what activities you did at one time before the pain...and what activities you do today...what specifically has the pain prevented you to do, and where do you want to be pain free. I think with the additional work load our doctors are faced with (HMO) they no longer have the time to listen. I have had some stories to tell you about not listening. Anyway, by writing your history down, shorten up your thoughts and keep to facts, it can help both you and the Doctor get to the bottom line, and you will be less likely to forget some of the important facts. Give your story to the nurse to allow the doctor time to read it before he comes in...that will save some time. If he doesn't take the time to read it...then you know he may not be the one for you. I wish you great success on Tuesday, keep us posted. Hang in there. Cindy K.

Re: Planter Fasciitis Questions for the Doctors)

Kay S on 1/13/01 at 11:25 (036555)

Tracy--Gosh, that Cindy is a quick learner!! She has given you some excellent advice concerning how to approach this with the docs. It is important that you keep track of what you are able to do, how bad it makes you feel when you do certain things, what makes it all feel better, when the pain is the worst, etc. And Cindy's suggestion to write it down and give it to the doctor to review prior to your visit is a terrific way to 'cut to the chase' with the doctor.
I agree---you do not have to suffer in silence, and your needs should not be pushed aside or ignored. If the doc can't do anything about certain things, then he/she needs to tell you that, and offer further suggestions to you.
I'd like to say 'be patient' but I know that is not easy to do. However, if you take this all step by step, one day at a time, it will be easier for you to cope.
Good luck.
Kay
PS--thanks for the compliment, Cindy. I feel like I got a pat on the back!

Re: Planter Fasciitis Questions for the Doctors)

Cindy K. on 1/14/01 at 11:56 (036595)

HI Kay S,
Hope you are doing well, I think of you often and hope that you are pain free today!! I tried to get you off line but my message bounced back..not sure why. Take care of yourself!

Cindy K.

Re: Planter Fasciitis Questions for the Doctors)

Kay S on 1/14/01 at 12:31 (036596)

Hi Cindy-- did you try to send an email and it didn't work? That happened to me last week too and I don't know what is wrong, so try using the above email by clicking and see if that works. My computer has kicked me off, locked up, and all sorts of goofy things this week.
Thanks for wishing me pain-free, but that is certainly a LONG way off for me. However, as long as I am going in the right direction with this, I will try to be patient. I do think I am better than I was before I had the eswt in December. Some days I can't explain just how, because I still have a lot of pain, but I guess I am not feeling quite as desperate as I was then. That makes me think that I am a little better.
It seems to me that there is a very, very fine line between painful but tolerable/painful but so excruciating you cannot think of anything else. On those bad days, it may also have something to do with one's frame of mind. And the better days may also be when things are going well personally.
Just a thought.
Kay