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Posted by Elisabeth on 5/14/01 at 04:20 (047691)

I am about to go on a beach holiday and with PF pain kept at bay wearing trainers and not walking much, I wanted to know if anyone could recommend what I can wear to support my arches whilst wearing a pair of sandals or similar.

I had seen on a website supports which cover the arch area but can't find them again, they also look like could be supportive whilst wearing no shoes - has anyone any experience of them or let me know where i might find some more information. I am based in the UK so websites / shops that are here would be useful.

Re: Foot support

jane on 5/14/01 at 06:38 (047692)

Has anyone come across 'Removable Arch Pad (RAP'marketed as sucessful treatment for PF? It would appear to be an arch support pad worn strapped to the foot allowing you to walk barefoot or in normal shoes - might be worth looking into this as a solution, I don't know much about it so if anyone has any experience of these it might be useful to hear comments.

Re: Foot support

Julie on 5/14/01 at 06:43 (047693)

Hello Elizabeth

Have you tried Birkenstock sandals? If they suit you, they would be good support for your feet. If you are in London, there is a specialist Birkenstock store in Neal Street, Covent Garden. There must be others: you could phone them to see if there is one near you if you live elsewhere. There are many different styles: I'd suggest you look first at the classic Arizonas.

For specific beach footwear, Birkenstock do a plastic version called Birkis. I have a pair, and use them at the pool, but don't like them for walking any distance: they are a bit rigid.

The Futuro ankle support, an elastic support which also supports the arch, is good. A very similar one (in fact, I think it replaced the Futuro here, and it's the one I use with great benefit) is the Kendall Dynamic. John Bell and Croyden stock it, and I expect you'd also find it in a good sports goods shop.

I'm in the UK too (there aren't many of us!) Where are you going on your holiday?

All the best, Julie

Re: Foot support

Elisabeth on 5/14/01 at 08:49 (047705)

Julie,

Thank you for that, I work around Covent Garden so might pay Birkenstock a visit - do they offer quite good advice or do you have to know what you are looking for?

I like the sound of the Futuro ankle support / equivalent - could you tell me a little more about it in terms of how rigid it is as I have had problems in the past from wearing orthotics so am keen to avoid anything rigid.

I'm off to spain for a week in the sun which I can't wait for, but don't want my feet killing me / or want to wear my trainers the whole time.

Thanks for the help

Re: Foot support /While Barefoot!

Donna M. on 5/14/01 at 14:47 (047727)

Hi! Yes I have bought 2 different type arch supports that can be worn barefoot or with shoes.
I bought one at Wal-Mart that is like an ace bandage, but it is just for arch support. It is only one thickness and you pull it over your toes til it is around your arch. It works really well. It costs about $5.
The other I got from a site http://www.harrietcarter.com and it has a terry cloth, washable pad that fits under your arch and it is held on by 2 velcro straps that you adjust to the tightness you like. It costs $12.95. I really do like it!! I wear it with my tennis shoes and any other shoes if i don't want to have all the arch supports and heel pads in my shoes! You can also wear it inside or on the outside of socks or stockings!! I can also go barefoot! This thing has helped me more than anything else I have bought and been well worth the $12.95! I have ordered another one just in case they quite selling them!!
Both of these are one size fits all.
Good luck if you decide to get them, or to anyone else that may decide to try them!

Re: Foot support

Julie on 5/15/01 at 02:21 (047761)

Hi Elizabeth

That's lucky! Do go to the Birkenstock shop. They are a specialist shop, selling only Birkenstocks (an offshoot of the Natural Shoe Store, which you may know) and the staff is knowledgeable and trained in fitting correctly. They have a long strip of blank footbeds in all sizes so that you can determine your correct size before trying on different styles. The footbed rim needs to surround the foot, and people usually think the correct size is too big: there should be a good quarter-inch of footbed showing in front of the toes.

The straps should be fastened loosely enough so that you can slip your fingers under the first one, to allow the feet to be active when wearing them. Your toes are meant to grip as you walk.

There are lots of different styles. I've only worn the classic Arizonas. They come with and without a heel strap. As you'll probably be told, the heel strap is unnecessary and fiddly: the footbed and the feet work together to hold the sandals on.

If you find they suit you, there are several styles of enclosed shoe as well.

Birkenstocks need time to break in, or rather your feet need time to accustom themselves to them. Wear them for short periods (an hour at most) at first, and increase gradually. Your feet won't be used to them, and people commonly find them uncomfortable at first. If your departure for Spain is imminent, it might be better to wait with the Birks until you come back.

That would leave you with the problem of what to do on the beach. I'd be inclined to wear my trainers until I got to where I was going to park myself! I did just this a few months ago in India, and although my feet felt hot and heavy, I was grateful for the comfort and protection.

Have you been told that with PF you shouldn't go barefoot at any time? It's true.

The ankle support (here in the UK Kendall Dynamic) is made of strong elastic webbing. I'll quote from the packet: 'Elastic webbing acts like muscle because it moves like muscle - its long fibres stretching and contracting to follow body contours...this support has a special spiral design which wraps smoothly around the ankle like an elastic bandage. However, it is much less bulky than an elastic bandage, so it can be worn comfortably inside shoes or boots. Made from dual tension elastic, the spiral design supplements weakened ankle muscles and ligaments making the ankle feel stronger and firmly supported while healing takes place.'

Because it wraps around the whole foot, apart from the toes, it works to support the arch in exactly the same way. I find it very effective. Before you buy one, measure your ankle at the smallest point: 7-8 inches = small' 8-9 = medium, 9-10=large, 10-11= extra large.

Good hunting, and happy holiday.

Re: Foot support /While Barefoot!

Elizabeth on 5/15/01 at 04:37 (047765)

That sounds like what I had in mind and it is good to know that it works for you - with summer approaching wearing trainers all the time is not very appealing.

Does anyone know where you might be able to buy these in the UK - shops or by website?

Re: Foot support

Elisabeth on 5/15/01 at 04:38 (047766)

Thank you for that help - sounds like I should try both this and what is recommended above - heel support attached with two velco straps - have you by any chance tried these and rejected them / know where you might be able to get them in the UK?

Re: Foot support /While Barefoot!

Julie on 5/15/01 at 06:24 (047773)

Elisabeth, I'm not sure whether your question refers to the Kendall ankle support or the other item Donna recommended! If the Kendall, John Bell and Croyden in Wigmore Street stock it.

Re: Where can I buy in the UK

Elisabeth on 5/15/01 at 08:30 (047786)

Donna, any ideas where i can buy these in the UK, that website will not ship to the UK?

Re: Foot support

brianh on 5/15/01 at 10:12 (047796)

Has anyone else ever tried the Island Pro brand thong type sandal? This is the only brand with a built in arch support that I've ever seen. Perfect for the beach or around the house. Their web site is http://www.islandslipper.com . I've had a pair of the men's Island Pro Webbing for over 5 years, so I can attest to the quality of the product.

Re: Foot support

john a on 5/15/01 at 11:55 (047811)

Never heard of them before. They look interesting. Of course, Birkenstock makes 'The' sandal for arch support. There's also Mephisto, Clarks, Ecco, Naot. And for the less rich among us there's Teva, Chaco, Sensi. The latter three also make thong styles. Can't recommend anything in particular - they all have their plusses and minuses.

Re: Where can I buy in the UK

Donna M. on 5/15/01 at 23:07 (047891)

Sorry Elisabeth, that is the only place I have ever seen them! I'm surprised they won't ship there.
I'll start looking and see if I can find them somewhere else, and if so, I'll post a message on here and let you know.
I know that won't do you any good for your trip, but maybe will help out when you get back!
Take Care!

Re: Where can I buy in the UK

Elisabeth on 5/16/01 at 02:19 (047907)

I did a little hunting last night and found a company called CountR'Force medical supplies which have accepted my order (and not yet told me they won't send to the UK so I will let you know.

Re: Foot support

jane on 5/14/01 at 06:38 (047692)

Has anyone come across 'Removable Arch Pad (RAP'marketed as sucessful treatment for PF? It would appear to be an arch support pad worn strapped to the foot allowing you to walk barefoot or in normal shoes - might be worth looking into this as a solution, I don't know much about it so if anyone has any experience of these it might be useful to hear comments.

Re: Foot support

Julie on 5/14/01 at 06:43 (047693)

Hello Elizabeth

Have you tried Birkenstock sandals? If they suit you, they would be good support for your feet. If you are in London, there is a specialist Birkenstock store in Neal Street, Covent Garden. There must be others: you could phone them to see if there is one near you if you live elsewhere. There are many different styles: I'd suggest you look first at the classic Arizonas.

For specific beach footwear, Birkenstock do a plastic version called Birkis. I have a pair, and use them at the pool, but don't like them for walking any distance: they are a bit rigid.

The Futuro ankle support, an elastic support which also supports the arch, is good. A very similar one (in fact, I think it replaced the Futuro here, and it's the one I use with great benefit) is the Kendall Dynamic. John Bell and Croyden stock it, and I expect you'd also find it in a good sports goods shop.

I'm in the UK too (there aren't many of us!) Where are you going on your holiday?

All the best, Julie

Re: Foot support

Elisabeth on 5/14/01 at 08:49 (047705)

Julie,

Thank you for that, I work around Covent Garden so might pay Birkenstock a visit - do they offer quite good advice or do you have to know what you are looking for?

I like the sound of the Futuro ankle support / equivalent - could you tell me a little more about it in terms of how rigid it is as I have had problems in the past from wearing orthotics so am keen to avoid anything rigid.

I'm off to spain for a week in the sun which I can't wait for, but don't want my feet killing me / or want to wear my trainers the whole time.

Thanks for the help

Re: Foot support /While Barefoot!

Donna M. on 5/14/01 at 14:47 (047727)

Hi! Yes I have bought 2 different type arch supports that can be worn barefoot or with shoes.
I bought one at Wal-Mart that is like an ace bandage, but it is just for arch support. It is only one thickness and you pull it over your toes til it is around your arch. It works really well. It costs about $5.
The other I got from a site http://www.harrietcarter.com and it has a terry cloth, washable pad that fits under your arch and it is held on by 2 velcro straps that you adjust to the tightness you like. It costs $12.95. I really do like it!! I wear it with my tennis shoes and any other shoes if i don't want to have all the arch supports and heel pads in my shoes! You can also wear it inside or on the outside of socks or stockings!! I can also go barefoot! This thing has helped me more than anything else I have bought and been well worth the $12.95! I have ordered another one just in case they quite selling them!!
Both of these are one size fits all.
Good luck if you decide to get them, or to anyone else that may decide to try them!

Re: Foot support

Julie on 5/15/01 at 02:21 (047761)

Hi Elizabeth

That's lucky! Do go to the Birkenstock shop. They are a specialist shop, selling only Birkenstocks (an offshoot of the Natural Shoe Store, which you may know) and the staff is knowledgeable and trained in fitting correctly. They have a long strip of blank footbeds in all sizes so that you can determine your correct size before trying on different styles. The footbed rim needs to surround the foot, and people usually think the correct size is too big: there should be a good quarter-inch of footbed showing in front of the toes.

The straps should be fastened loosely enough so that you can slip your fingers under the first one, to allow the feet to be active when wearing them. Your toes are meant to grip as you walk.

There are lots of different styles. I've only worn the classic Arizonas. They come with and without a heel strap. As you'll probably be told, the heel strap is unnecessary and fiddly: the footbed and the feet work together to hold the sandals on.

If you find they suit you, there are several styles of enclosed shoe as well.

Birkenstocks need time to break in, or rather your feet need time to accustom themselves to them. Wear them for short periods (an hour at most) at first, and increase gradually. Your feet won't be used to them, and people commonly find them uncomfortable at first. If your departure for Spain is imminent, it might be better to wait with the Birks until you come back.

That would leave you with the problem of what to do on the beach. I'd be inclined to wear my trainers until I got to where I was going to park myself! I did just this a few months ago in India, and although my feet felt hot and heavy, I was grateful for the comfort and protection.

Have you been told that with PF you shouldn't go barefoot at any time? It's true.

The ankle support (here in the UK Kendall Dynamic) is made of strong elastic webbing. I'll quote from the packet: 'Elastic webbing acts like muscle because it moves like muscle - its long fibres stretching and contracting to follow body contours...this support has a special spiral design which wraps smoothly around the ankle like an elastic bandage. However, it is much less bulky than an elastic bandage, so it can be worn comfortably inside shoes or boots. Made from dual tension elastic, the spiral design supplements weakened ankle muscles and ligaments making the ankle feel stronger and firmly supported while healing takes place.'

Because it wraps around the whole foot, apart from the toes, it works to support the arch in exactly the same way. I find it very effective. Before you buy one, measure your ankle at the smallest point: 7-8 inches = small' 8-9 = medium, 9-10=large, 10-11= extra large.

Good hunting, and happy holiday.

Re: Foot support /While Barefoot!

Elizabeth on 5/15/01 at 04:37 (047765)

That sounds like what I had in mind and it is good to know that it works for you - with summer approaching wearing trainers all the time is not very appealing.

Does anyone know where you might be able to buy these in the UK - shops or by website?

Re: Foot support

Elisabeth on 5/15/01 at 04:38 (047766)

Thank you for that help - sounds like I should try both this and what is recommended above - heel support attached with two velco straps - have you by any chance tried these and rejected them / know where you might be able to get them in the UK?

Re: Foot support /While Barefoot!

Julie on 5/15/01 at 06:24 (047773)

Elisabeth, I'm not sure whether your question refers to the Kendall ankle support or the other item Donna recommended! If the Kendall, John Bell and Croyden in Wigmore Street stock it.

Re: Where can I buy in the UK

Elisabeth on 5/15/01 at 08:30 (047786)

Donna, any ideas where i can buy these in the UK, that website will not ship to the UK?

Re: Foot support

brianh on 5/15/01 at 10:12 (047796)

Has anyone else ever tried the Island Pro brand thong type sandal? This is the only brand with a built in arch support that I've ever seen. Perfect for the beach or around the house. Their web site is http://www.islandslipper.com . I've had a pair of the men's Island Pro Webbing for over 5 years, so I can attest to the quality of the product.

Re: Foot support

john a on 5/15/01 at 11:55 (047811)

Never heard of them before. They look interesting. Of course, Birkenstock makes 'The' sandal for arch support. There's also Mephisto, Clarks, Ecco, Naot. And for the less rich among us there's Teva, Chaco, Sensi. The latter three also make thong styles. Can't recommend anything in particular - they all have their plusses and minuses.

Re: Where can I buy in the UK

Donna M. on 5/15/01 at 23:07 (047891)

Sorry Elisabeth, that is the only place I have ever seen them! I'm surprised they won't ship there.
I'll start looking and see if I can find them somewhere else, and if so, I'll post a message on here and let you know.
I know that won't do you any good for your trip, but maybe will help out when you get back!
Take Care!

Re: Where can I buy in the UK

Elisabeth on 5/16/01 at 02:19 (047907)

I did a little hunting last night and found a company called CountR'Force medical supplies which have accepted my order (and not yet told me they won't send to the UK so I will let you know.