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I didn't know!

Posted by wanda m on 8/01/01 at 09:00 (055047)

I have been dealing with pf for 2 years. I had knee surgery and a few weeks after recovering, I started having foot pain in my left heel (same leg as the surgery). I figured the elavation of my foot caused the foot pain and it would go away after awhile. The pain increased over the following months so I went to a pod and he gave me injections that relieved the pain for a week at a time. I then went to an ortho who showed me stretching exercise. They helped some. 2 years later I now have pain in both feet with very little relief throughout the day. I did not know how serious this could be. I have always forced myself to walk though the pain. Why do foot care professionals blow this condition off so easily?

Re: I didn't know!

Donna M on 8/01/01 at 11:27 (055075)

Hi Wanda and so sorry to hear of your pain~~and in 'both' feet. I think, personally, one reason most of them blow it off so lightly is because they have never had it!!!! It is really hard for anyone to know what we are dealing and living with, when we 'look' so normal!
Have you been diagnosed with PF? If so, I learned on here, and not from my doctor, to never go barefoot, at anytime!! Also make sure you ice your feet and rest them as much as you can, and do the foot exercises. Have you ever taped your feet? Make sure you read Scott's Heelpain Book and it shows and tells you how. Walking through the problem only seems to make matters worse, as I have found out!
Take care of yourself and just hang in here with the rest of us! You have come to the right place for support and caring people!!
Donna

Re: I didn't know!

Necee on 8/01/01 at 13:23 (055091)

Hi Wanda,
I read your post and just wanted to echo what Donna said. It is very important to rest as much as possible. The pain we have in our feet comes from inflammation so if we can alieviate the inflammation we will reduce the pain.
I would first suggest that you consult your Dr. If you are diagnosed with PF then you have come to the right place. Everything I know about my PF and how to treat it I learned here. I would go away from my Dr visits feeling so frustrated, there was never time to tell me what to expect and how to get relief from my pain, Oh yes he did tell me about surgery but I don't want that at this point, I want to exhaust all other treatments first.
When you have a question please ask, the knowledge you will gain is the first treatment towards your recovery. I understand and have been through what your going through, just like everyone else here. We can help eachother heal the feet as well as the mind and spirit.
Let me tell you what I do: For pain relief I take Vioxx, or any anti-inflammatory that works. I massage the bottom of my foot using a small frozen water bottle, lay it on the floor and roll your foot back and forth from heel to toes, the ice helps with inflammation. Never go barefooted, our feet need proper support, so always wear good shoes. I always massage my calves and feet before getting out of bed in the morning, that helps get those muscles and tendons stretched. Taping the bottom of the foot also helps relieve tension. Scott shows us how. Also read his heel pain book you will learn a lot from it.
Just understanding about PF will help you to heal yourself, but the most important thing is to stay involved with this website, its part of my daily routine to recovery. I know that I'm much better because of the wonderful caring people here. You will make many new friends who give so much love, concern and support. Not only does your feet need healing but also the mind and spirit.
So thats about it from me...Hope this has helped you in some way and you will be in my thought and prayers as you recover.
Blessings,
Necee

Re: I didn't know!

Julie on 8/01/01 at 13:29 (055094)

Wanda, what treatment plan are you following now? Do you now have a better doctor, one who can really help you? This website is extremely helpful, as Necee says, but you really would do better if you had a podiatrist who could be systematic and organized about helping you heal.

Re: I didn't know!

Wanda M on 8/01/01 at 20:08 (055147)

I have been diagnosed with PF. Thank you all for your support and advice. I will try the things that were suggested and I will definitely make this message board a part of my daily life. I have a night splint that I will be using starting today! I have not found another Dr. due to my own frustration with the responses I have been getting.

Re: There are good doctors out there

Julie on 8/02/01 at 02:57 (055171)

Wanda, I understand your frustration. But not all foot care specialists 'blow the condition off'. There are many who take it as seriously as it deserves to be taken, including the doctors who give their time to help us on this website.

There are good and excellent doctors in the 'real' world, too, as well as poor and indifferent ones, and I do think that you should make every effort to find one. Suggestions from friends on the internet, and information picked up on the internet, can be extremely useful - they certainly have been to me. But that can lead to self-treatment with 'a bit of this, and a bit of that', and this unfocused approach may not lead to the best result. You've been struggling alone for two years. Now you should find a good foot doctor who can get you started on a comprehensive treatment plan and who will monitor your progress and work with you until you are fully healed.

Dr Ed Davis has made it clear that treatments for PF need to be used in the right combination and for the right length of time. He has also suggested to several people recently that if they tell him where they live, he will let them know about doctors in their areas. He might be able to help you. (Doctor, I hope it's ok for me to offer your services like this!)

Re: that is a million dollar question!

Paula G. on 8/02/01 at 14:33 (055228)

That is the question!!! Maybe because these same doctors don't have it themselves. SO much of it is subjective in symptoms and a doctor wants to treat what they see and know.

Re: There are good doctors out there

Ed Davis, DPM on 8/02/01 at hrmin (055255)

Julie:
Thank you again for your comments. I would be glad to try to help people find good doctors. Dr. Z has offered to do so too.
Ed

Re: that is a million dollar question!

Ed Davis, DPM on 8/02/01 at hrmin (055257)

Paula:
There is a certain degree of subjectivity but that is not a significant obstacle to good treatment. A good treatment plan not only makes use of optimal combinations of modalities but continually monitors patient responses in order to make changes in treatment--it evolves. I think that your confidence in this approach will increase once we can write down the relevant algorithms in flow chart form or otherwise.
Ed

Re: that is a million dollar question!

Julie on 8/03/01 at 02:00 (055292)

Paula, yes, a podiatrist who has PF (some do, including mine) will almost certainly have researched treatment options pretty thoroughly, and will also be more sympathetic. But my other hunch about this $$$ question is that it's only the poorer doctors who 'blow it off': those who aren't able, due either to lack of knowledge or lack of interest in this very common ailment, to give their patients the help that would heal them. So the patients don't get better, and the doctors get bored with them and behave accordingly.

Re: I didn't know!

Donna M on 8/01/01 at 11:27 (055075)

Hi Wanda and so sorry to hear of your pain~~and in 'both' feet. I think, personally, one reason most of them blow it off so lightly is because they have never had it!!!! It is really hard for anyone to know what we are dealing and living with, when we 'look' so normal!
Have you been diagnosed with PF? If so, I learned on here, and not from my doctor, to never go barefoot, at anytime!! Also make sure you ice your feet and rest them as much as you can, and do the foot exercises. Have you ever taped your feet? Make sure you read Scott's Heelpain Book and it shows and tells you how. Walking through the problem only seems to make matters worse, as I have found out!
Take care of yourself and just hang in here with the rest of us! You have come to the right place for support and caring people!!
Donna

Re: I didn't know!

Necee on 8/01/01 at 13:23 (055091)

Hi Wanda,
I read your post and just wanted to echo what Donna said. It is very important to rest as much as possible. The pain we have in our feet comes from inflammation so if we can alieviate the inflammation we will reduce the pain.
I would first suggest that you consult your Dr. If you are diagnosed with PF then you have come to the right place. Everything I know about my PF and how to treat it I learned here. I would go away from my Dr visits feeling so frustrated, there was never time to tell me what to expect and how to get relief from my pain, Oh yes he did tell me about surgery but I don't want that at this point, I want to exhaust all other treatments first.
When you have a question please ask, the knowledge you will gain is the first treatment towards your recovery. I understand and have been through what your going through, just like everyone else here. We can help eachother heal the feet as well as the mind and spirit.
Let me tell you what I do: For pain relief I take Vioxx, or any anti-inflammatory that works. I massage the bottom of my foot using a small frozen water bottle, lay it on the floor and roll your foot back and forth from heel to toes, the ice helps with inflammation. Never go barefooted, our feet need proper support, so always wear good shoes. I always massage my calves and feet before getting out of bed in the morning, that helps get those muscles and tendons stretched. Taping the bottom of the foot also helps relieve tension. Scott shows us how. Also read his heel pain book you will learn a lot from it.
Just understanding about PF will help you to heal yourself, but the most important thing is to stay involved with this website, its part of my daily routine to recovery. I know that I'm much better because of the wonderful caring people here. You will make many new friends who give so much love, concern and support. Not only does your feet need healing but also the mind and spirit.
So thats about it from me...Hope this has helped you in some way and you will be in my thought and prayers as you recover.
Blessings,
Necee

Re: I didn't know!

Julie on 8/01/01 at 13:29 (055094)

Wanda, what treatment plan are you following now? Do you now have a better doctor, one who can really help you? This website is extremely helpful, as Necee says, but you really would do better if you had a podiatrist who could be systematic and organized about helping you heal.

Re: I didn't know!

Wanda M on 8/01/01 at 20:08 (055147)

I have been diagnosed with PF. Thank you all for your support and advice. I will try the things that were suggested and I will definitely make this message board a part of my daily life. I have a night splint that I will be using starting today! I have not found another Dr. due to my own frustration with the responses I have been getting.

Re: There are good doctors out there

Julie on 8/02/01 at 02:57 (055171)

Wanda, I understand your frustration. But not all foot care specialists 'blow the condition off'. There are many who take it as seriously as it deserves to be taken, including the doctors who give their time to help us on this website.

There are good and excellent doctors in the 'real' world, too, as well as poor and indifferent ones, and I do think that you should make every effort to find one. Suggestions from friends on the internet, and information picked up on the internet, can be extremely useful - they certainly have been to me. But that can lead to self-treatment with 'a bit of this, and a bit of that', and this unfocused approach may not lead to the best result. You've been struggling alone for two years. Now you should find a good foot doctor who can get you started on a comprehensive treatment plan and who will monitor your progress and work with you until you are fully healed.

Dr Ed Davis has made it clear that treatments for PF need to be used in the right combination and for the right length of time. He has also suggested to several people recently that if they tell him where they live, he will let them know about doctors in their areas. He might be able to help you. (Doctor, I hope it's ok for me to offer your services like this!)

Re: that is a million dollar question!

Paula G. on 8/02/01 at 14:33 (055228)

That is the question!!! Maybe because these same doctors don't have it themselves. SO much of it is subjective in symptoms and a doctor wants to treat what they see and know.

Re: There are good doctors out there

Ed Davis, DPM on 8/02/01 at hrmin (055255)

Julie:
Thank you again for your comments. I would be glad to try to help people find good doctors. Dr. Z has offered to do so too.
Ed

Re: that is a million dollar question!

Ed Davis, DPM on 8/02/01 at hrmin (055257)

Paula:
There is a certain degree of subjectivity but that is not a significant obstacle to good treatment. A good treatment plan not only makes use of optimal combinations of modalities but continually monitors patient responses in order to make changes in treatment--it evolves. I think that your confidence in this approach will increase once we can write down the relevant algorithms in flow chart form or otherwise.
Ed

Re: that is a million dollar question!

Julie on 8/03/01 at 02:00 (055292)

Paula, yes, a podiatrist who has PF (some do, including mine) will almost certainly have researched treatment options pretty thoroughly, and will also be more sympathetic. But my other hunch about this $$$ question is that it's only the poorer doctors who 'blow it off': those who aren't able, due either to lack of knowledge or lack of interest in this very common ailment, to give their patients the help that would heal them. So the patients don't get better, and the doctors get bored with them and behave accordingly.