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Posted by Barbara TX on 11/07/01 at 20:05 (064350)

I went into the tube again today. Results on Friday. They did a contrast dye MRI after a normal one. In the tube listening to bad 70's & 80's music (no good stuff), unable to move for 2 HOURS. Just the pain in the ball of my foot from having it touching the 'foot cage' was really bad. There has to be a neuroma (or something) in there the size of a gerbil and they are blind if they can't see anything. We shall see. B

Re: MRI

Laurie R on 11/07/01 at 20:21 (064351)

Hi Barbara , I am so glad to hear your MRI is over. I have only had one so far and I told my doctor I hope never to have another one .I would rather have surgery than another MRI. Check this out I had open MRI , their was no tube to go into and I still hated the whole thing. I had to lay their for 1 hour and 30 minutes . My foot hurt so bad from the coil they used to put my foot in.

My Pod was just asking me at my last visit when my last MRI was. I told him two weeks ago , he said no I am talking about the MRI I said two weeks ago .Meaning I was not going again . It was really one year ago . I told PLEASE don't make me do that ever again .

Oh Barbara it was the worse for me . I know for some people it is no big deal , for me I thought this is it I am going to die today ,it was that bad. The staff there were so nice to me , if it was me I think I would of called the little white truck to have them pick me up .....

I am looking forward to hearing you resutls . I hope it shows everythng you want to know . That way you can start on a treatment program and feel better....Mine did show what they needed to know ...

My very best to you , Laurie R

Re: MRI

Beverly on 11/07/01 at 20:28 (064354)

Hi Barbara,

I hope that MRI gives you some information that can solve your problem... lead to resolution. I had one on my feet and then another one on my ankles. They revealed absolutely nothing! I was happy I didn't have any dreadful condition, but was so frustrated that with all the pain I've dealt with the MRI didn't give any answers.

As for the tube, it didn't bother me, but if it did, I wouldn't hestitate to ask for a sedative and get someone else to drive. It did leave me sore. Mostly, I just remember being cold.

Keep us posted on the results.

Laurie, what is going on with you? Does your doctor know what caused the RSD?

See ya,
Beverly

Re: MRI

Laurie R on 11/07/01 at 20:44 (064358)

Hi Beverly , No I don't think they know for sure what caused the RSD. I do go to Pain management now . I hae had one spinal injection two weeks ago. I just saw my PM doctor today to go over the injections . They want me to have another spinal injetions done . It lasted till the meds wore off ,that was about a few hours. My foot felt so good for a few hours , it was so warm. My foot is always like ice all the time ,even in the summer it was like ice. That is one reason I can't use ice anymore .

So I am to call tomarrow to schedule the next spinal injection. Now to me it was not bad at all. Of course I was all doped up , the only way to go .

They say even though the injection only lasted for a few hours it did what it was suppose to do . But if the next two only give relief for a few hours then that is all they will do .

It has been a long hard road , it is 2 and half years now since all this has started. But I won't give up the faith .

I just have some many things wrong with my foot , not just the RSD. I still have PF and TTS and a fibroma that is on my fascia wrapped around my FHL tendon and tenosynivitis on the same tendon. They did tell me from the start that the injections will not help all of this . They are trying to get the RSD under control so I can have surgery ...

I am in pain 24/7 it has only gotten worse ....

How long have you had foot problems for ?? Are you in pain all the time ?/

I wish you the best ,Laurie R

Re: MRI

Barbara TX on 11/07/01 at 21:50 (064368)

Thanks Laurie - I really hope so. I do hate the MRI - actually, for different reasons. I really feel just like lump of flesh in the MRI, totally out of myself, and inhuman. It is hard to put my finger on it, that and the fact that I've been through it before with no great items of interest found. That coil they put my foot in really hurt, but I made a big fuss about getting the foot just right and comfy with all sorts of pads and stuff... and then when they shot me in, laying on my back changed the pressure on my foot. I thought GREAT! two hours of this. The techs were very nice, but I got in the privacy of the MRI and cried a bucketful, wetting the earphones and my hair. I wasn't scared, just depressed. Then, I felt bad that I was all weepy when I had this million dollar machine around me and access to the best medical care in the world. I was probably just tired and frustrated.

Luckily, I dried off in the course of the hour so I wasn't embarrassed by the crying. I am lucky - I am not in pain at night in bed, so I can rest. I feel so badly that your RSD is stubborn in resolving. I think of you often. I can only imagine how hard it is... hang in there. We are all pulling for you. There will be a day when all of this is over. B.

Re: MRI

Suzanne D on 11/08/01 at 11:27 (064402)

I hope tomorrow you get some news that will help you in overcoming your condition, Barbara! Don't feel bad for crying; from reading your posts, I think you have a lot of guts and a good sense of humor through it all! This day to day dragging on with continual hurting DOES wear on one, doesn't it? We got our school pictures back not long ago, and it hit me how much older and more tired I look this year! Last year's picture was made before the foot problems surfaced...

You hang in there! I will look for a post from you after you hear your results.

Thinking of you... :-)

Re: MRI

linda A on 11/08/01 at 16:49 (064442)

hello tex barb ! did they put a pillow under your legs to keep the pressure off your back ? it must been hard sitting there for two hrs . i remember when i had my neck done in the mri machine . i wish i had some of your music . i had that awful banging sound going on ( no music at all ) . i have problems w/ c3-4 and c4-5 narrowing ;my arms and hands sometimes go numb when i walk .. it's really too early to perform any surgery . i go to a chiropractor . before the chiropractor i spent a month doing physical therapy w/ traction and exercise . it made it worse . i have instant relief when i go to chiropractor . take care barb . linda

Re: MRI

john h on 11/08/01 at 17:20 (064445)

Linda: 23 years ago i had a fusion of the 3/4 and 4/5 cervicals with bone from my hip. the surgery was performed through the throat where they sweep the entire throat aside to perform the procedure. the surgery lasted about 4 hours. I had no pain in my neck after the surgery but i want to tell you where they remove the bone from your hip there is major pain if you move. the surgery was a total success and i have never had pain since. the doctor who performed the surgery is a good friend and a few weeks ago he saw me and said why not come in and let him take an x-ray and see what it looks like after all these years. The fusion is as solid as a rock. After surgery I was back to playing basketball in about 4 months. My problem was the result of being shot down. I had two chips in the canal that would lodge against the spinal chord on occasion and would create horrorific pain. prior to surgery i went throuhg all the PT,stretching, etc but as it turned out none of that was ever going to help my condition.

Re: john---- were you in your helicopter

linda A on 11/08/01 at 17:44 (064448)

which war was that john ? did you go to a mash unit ? tell me all the details . if you don't want to talk about it it is okay i will understand . that approach is called anterior cervical and there is also a posterior cervical . yes , the hip is usually the part to hurt the most . when people sign up to be a bone marrow donor , they take the marrow out of the hip ( ouch ) . yes ,i have signed up and one of my friends actually became a donor . they do need our help , but be sure you know what you are getting into . you talk about your daughter being a rad tech . does she go into surgery dept to take x-rays . we had a real nice girl on sat , but the surgeon was a complete jerk to her . i felt like telling him off . he is that way to everyone , but she is so nice she wouldn't say anything back to him ( like get your panties out of a wad --- jerk face ) . take care john linda

Re: MRI/Laurie

Beverly on 11/08/01 at 18:50 (064452)

Laurie, you are BRAVE! Now, if I were going to be a weeny, it would be a shot in my back. Did it hurt? I hope the next one gives you a longer period of relief. And by the way, happy anniversary. Fifteen years is something to be proud of.

Thank you for asking about me. Most of the time, I am not in round-the-clock pain. For that, I am very grateful. I have a mixed basket of body pain. Probably what gets me the kookiest is when my neck acts up, but that stays under control most of the time. As for the tootsies and ankles, I'm in a bad spell right now where just walking from my apartment to the mailbox next door requires driving unless I want to limp back home. But I had a good month in Sept. and October, and I'm trying to keep that in perspective.

My own stubborness brought on this most recent relapse. I drove a friend way out into the country to get her car worked on. It was farther than I've driven in over a year, and then I drove her home, and then drove myself home (all on opposite sides of town). If I'd had the sense God gave a goose, I would have stopped right then and there and done nothing else the rest of the weekend, but I'd planned a dinner out with friends and a trip to the movies; so I did that too. I was already feeling like I'd pushed the limit.
I continued to run my normal errands for several days after that. By then, I was in misery and my ankle was swollen again. I felt like an idiot. All I can say is that when I have periods of 'relative wellness' it is so exhilerating that I end up doing too much. So, I'm back to doing as little as humanly possible.

Keep us posted on what happens at the pain clinic.
Beverly

Re: john---- were you in your helicopter

john h on 11/08/01 at 21:42 (064460)

Linda: yes my daughter Laurie does go into the operating room to do the x-rays. She tells me that is a really big deal for her because all the doctors and nurses stop what they are doing and all eyes are on her. She says she always prays the film develops like the doc wants because the worst thing in the world is to have to shoot the x-ray a second time with all the docs and operating room personal already on edge. She is in a large teaching hospital and has been there for 20 years. Today she was named Radiology Tech of The Year and received a monetary award and Plaque.

I never knew where they took the bone morrow from but if it is from the hip then ouch. I remember the nurse getting me out of bed the morning after surgery. My neck was pain free but I was in such agony with my hip they had to give me a shot of morophine to get me back in bed. And I claim to be a real man. I still sport this 6' scar on my neck. It is hard for me to imagine going all the way through the neck to the back of the head to do the fusion. They also shoot the x-ray prior to removing the discs to make sure they are removing the correct one. This is a case where the poor x-ray tech better get it right the first time with the patient laying there with his throat open. I probably know 5 people personally who have had this surgery and all have come away with complete success.

In 1969 I was flying 5 special operations persons (worked for CIA) into a very bad area of Laos. We were shot down on are way in to the LZ. We had two escorting fighters which kept the bad guys away from us until a rescue helicopter could pull us out. Several of us sustained injuries as we autorotated through the heavy jungle cover. All of us made it back alive however. My neck and back have never been the same. I was back flying in two weeks and finshed out my tour. Pilots who spend many years in helicopters frequently end up with neck and back problems. We wore a heavy flying helmet. a helicopter has an inherent 1 to 1 up and down beat which basically means you are sitting there with a heavy helmet on bouncing up and down all the time. hmmmmm I wonder what this does to the brain?

Re: thank you john ! was that vietnam war or korean ?

linda A on 11/09/01 at 02:59 (064468)

i can hardly imagine that heavy thing bobby on your head . sounds like your daughter is very special . one of my best friends is a rad tech . she used to teach all the students that came to our hospital . the university of louisville decided to do some cut backs to the health program , so they cut out the rad program . now we only have about 10 major hospital in louisville, ky . did that make sense to cut back the rad program . NO ---that is a very sore subject to bring up to my friend . the only closest program is 30-40 mi away . now louisville just spent alot of money recruiting a new basketball coach rick pitino ( loved the guy ) and spent a lot of money on their sports program . , but said there was no money for higher education . linda

Re: thank you john ! was that vietnam war or korean ?

john h on 11/09/01 at 09:22 (064489)

Linda: Vietnam

Re: john---- were you in your helicopter

BrianG on 11/10/01 at 19:10 (064641)

John, you ARE a manley man!!! 1969, Tet offensive, bad deal, very bad part of the country. Happy Veteran's Day, people like you have ensured we are free today.

BCG

Re: john---- were you in your helicopter

john h on 11/11/01 at 08:55 (064662)

brian: i would gladly trade a tour at the DMZ or Afgan for a cure of PF.

Re: MRI

Laurie R on 11/07/01 at 20:21 (064351)

Hi Barbara , I am so glad to hear your MRI is over. I have only had one so far and I told my doctor I hope never to have another one .I would rather have surgery than another MRI. Check this out I had open MRI , their was no tube to go into and I still hated the whole thing. I had to lay their for 1 hour and 30 minutes . My foot hurt so bad from the coil they used to put my foot in.

My Pod was just asking me at my last visit when my last MRI was. I told him two weeks ago , he said no I am talking about the MRI I said two weeks ago .Meaning I was not going again . It was really one year ago . I told PLEASE don't make me do that ever again .

Oh Barbara it was the worse for me . I know for some people it is no big deal , for me I thought this is it I am going to die today ,it was that bad. The staff there were so nice to me , if it was me I think I would of called the little white truck to have them pick me up .....

I am looking forward to hearing you resutls . I hope it shows everythng you want to know . That way you can start on a treatment program and feel better....Mine did show what they needed to know ...

My very best to you , Laurie R

Re: MRI

Beverly on 11/07/01 at 20:28 (064354)

Hi Barbara,

I hope that MRI gives you some information that can solve your problem... lead to resolution. I had one on my feet and then another one on my ankles. They revealed absolutely nothing! I was happy I didn't have any dreadful condition, but was so frustrated that with all the pain I've dealt with the MRI didn't give any answers.

As for the tube, it didn't bother me, but if it did, I wouldn't hestitate to ask for a sedative and get someone else to drive. It did leave me sore. Mostly, I just remember being cold.

Keep us posted on the results.

Laurie, what is going on with you? Does your doctor know what caused the RSD?

See ya,
Beverly

Re: MRI

Laurie R on 11/07/01 at 20:44 (064358)

Hi Beverly , No I don't think they know for sure what caused the RSD. I do go to Pain management now . I hae had one spinal injection two weeks ago. I just saw my PM doctor today to go over the injections . They want me to have another spinal injetions done . It lasted till the meds wore off ,that was about a few hours. My foot felt so good for a few hours , it was so warm. My foot is always like ice all the time ,even in the summer it was like ice. That is one reason I can't use ice anymore .

So I am to call tomarrow to schedule the next spinal injection. Now to me it was not bad at all. Of course I was all doped up , the only way to go .

They say even though the injection only lasted for a few hours it did what it was suppose to do . But if the next two only give relief for a few hours then that is all they will do .

It has been a long hard road , it is 2 and half years now since all this has started. But I won't give up the faith .

I just have some many things wrong with my foot , not just the RSD. I still have PF and TTS and a fibroma that is on my fascia wrapped around my FHL tendon and tenosynivitis on the same tendon. They did tell me from the start that the injections will not help all of this . They are trying to get the RSD under control so I can have surgery ...

I am in pain 24/7 it has only gotten worse ....

How long have you had foot problems for ?? Are you in pain all the time ?/

I wish you the best ,Laurie R

Re: MRI

Barbara TX on 11/07/01 at 21:50 (064368)

Thanks Laurie - I really hope so. I do hate the MRI - actually, for different reasons. I really feel just like lump of flesh in the MRI, totally out of myself, and inhuman. It is hard to put my finger on it, that and the fact that I've been through it before with no great items of interest found. That coil they put my foot in really hurt, but I made a big fuss about getting the foot just right and comfy with all sorts of pads and stuff... and then when they shot me in, laying on my back changed the pressure on my foot. I thought GREAT! two hours of this. The techs were very nice, but I got in the privacy of the MRI and cried a bucketful, wetting the earphones and my hair. I wasn't scared, just depressed. Then, I felt bad that I was all weepy when I had this million dollar machine around me and access to the best medical care in the world. I was probably just tired and frustrated.

Luckily, I dried off in the course of the hour so I wasn't embarrassed by the crying. I am lucky - I am not in pain at night in bed, so I can rest. I feel so badly that your RSD is stubborn in resolving. I think of you often. I can only imagine how hard it is... hang in there. We are all pulling for you. There will be a day when all of this is over. B.

Re: MRI

Suzanne D on 11/08/01 at 11:27 (064402)

I hope tomorrow you get some news that will help you in overcoming your condition, Barbara! Don't feel bad for crying; from reading your posts, I think you have a lot of guts and a good sense of humor through it all! This day to day dragging on with continual hurting DOES wear on one, doesn't it? We got our school pictures back not long ago, and it hit me how much older and more tired I look this year! Last year's picture was made before the foot problems surfaced...

You hang in there! I will look for a post from you after you hear your results.

Thinking of you... :-)

Re: MRI

linda A on 11/08/01 at 16:49 (064442)

hello tex barb ! did they put a pillow under your legs to keep the pressure off your back ? it must been hard sitting there for two hrs . i remember when i had my neck done in the mri machine . i wish i had some of your music . i had that awful banging sound going on ( no music at all ) . i have problems w/ c3-4 and c4-5 narrowing ;my arms and hands sometimes go numb when i walk .. it's really too early to perform any surgery . i go to a chiropractor . before the chiropractor i spent a month doing physical therapy w/ traction and exercise . it made it worse . i have instant relief when i go to chiropractor . take care barb . linda

Re: MRI

john h on 11/08/01 at 17:20 (064445)

Linda: 23 years ago i had a fusion of the 3/4 and 4/5 cervicals with bone from my hip. the surgery was performed through the throat where they sweep the entire throat aside to perform the procedure. the surgery lasted about 4 hours. I had no pain in my neck after the surgery but i want to tell you where they remove the bone from your hip there is major pain if you move. the surgery was a total success and i have never had pain since. the doctor who performed the surgery is a good friend and a few weeks ago he saw me and said why not come in and let him take an x-ray and see what it looks like after all these years. The fusion is as solid as a rock. After surgery I was back to playing basketball in about 4 months. My problem was the result of being shot down. I had two chips in the canal that would lodge against the spinal chord on occasion and would create horrorific pain. prior to surgery i went throuhg all the PT,stretching, etc but as it turned out none of that was ever going to help my condition.

Re: john---- were you in your helicopter

linda A on 11/08/01 at 17:44 (064448)

which war was that john ? did you go to a mash unit ? tell me all the details . if you don't want to talk about it it is okay i will understand . that approach is called anterior cervical and there is also a posterior cervical . yes , the hip is usually the part to hurt the most . when people sign up to be a bone marrow donor , they take the marrow out of the hip ( ouch ) . yes ,i have signed up and one of my friends actually became a donor . they do need our help , but be sure you know what you are getting into . you talk about your daughter being a rad tech . does she go into surgery dept to take x-rays . we had a real nice girl on sat , but the surgeon was a complete jerk to her . i felt like telling him off . he is that way to everyone , but she is so nice she wouldn't say anything back to him ( like get your panties out of a wad --- jerk face ) . take care john linda

Re: MRI/Laurie

Beverly on 11/08/01 at 18:50 (064452)

Laurie, you are BRAVE! Now, if I were going to be a weeny, it would be a shot in my back. Did it hurt? I hope the next one gives you a longer period of relief. And by the way, happy anniversary. Fifteen years is something to be proud of.

Thank you for asking about me. Most of the time, I am not in round-the-clock pain. For that, I am very grateful. I have a mixed basket of body pain. Probably what gets me the kookiest is when my neck acts up, but that stays under control most of the time. As for the tootsies and ankles, I'm in a bad spell right now where just walking from my apartment to the mailbox next door requires driving unless I want to limp back home. But I had a good month in Sept. and October, and I'm trying to keep that in perspective.

My own stubborness brought on this most recent relapse. I drove a friend way out into the country to get her car worked on. It was farther than I've driven in over a year, and then I drove her home, and then drove myself home (all on opposite sides of town). If I'd had the sense God gave a goose, I would have stopped right then and there and done nothing else the rest of the weekend, but I'd planned a dinner out with friends and a trip to the movies; so I did that too. I was already feeling like I'd pushed the limit.
I continued to run my normal errands for several days after that. By then, I was in misery and my ankle was swollen again. I felt like an idiot. All I can say is that when I have periods of 'relative wellness' it is so exhilerating that I end up doing too much. So, I'm back to doing as little as humanly possible.

Keep us posted on what happens at the pain clinic.
Beverly

Re: john---- were you in your helicopter

john h on 11/08/01 at 21:42 (064460)

Linda: yes my daughter Laurie does go into the operating room to do the x-rays. She tells me that is a really big deal for her because all the doctors and nurses stop what they are doing and all eyes are on her. She says she always prays the film develops like the doc wants because the worst thing in the world is to have to shoot the x-ray a second time with all the docs and operating room personal already on edge. She is in a large teaching hospital and has been there for 20 years. Today she was named Radiology Tech of The Year and received a monetary award and Plaque.

I never knew where they took the bone morrow from but if it is from the hip then ouch. I remember the nurse getting me out of bed the morning after surgery. My neck was pain free but I was in such agony with my hip they had to give me a shot of morophine to get me back in bed. And I claim to be a real man. I still sport this 6' scar on my neck. It is hard for me to imagine going all the way through the neck to the back of the head to do the fusion. They also shoot the x-ray prior to removing the discs to make sure they are removing the correct one. This is a case where the poor x-ray tech better get it right the first time with the patient laying there with his throat open. I probably know 5 people personally who have had this surgery and all have come away with complete success.

In 1969 I was flying 5 special operations persons (worked for CIA) into a very bad area of Laos. We were shot down on are way in to the LZ. We had two escorting fighters which kept the bad guys away from us until a rescue helicopter could pull us out. Several of us sustained injuries as we autorotated through the heavy jungle cover. All of us made it back alive however. My neck and back have never been the same. I was back flying in two weeks and finshed out my tour. Pilots who spend many years in helicopters frequently end up with neck and back problems. We wore a heavy flying helmet. a helicopter has an inherent 1 to 1 up and down beat which basically means you are sitting there with a heavy helmet on bouncing up and down all the time. hmmmmm I wonder what this does to the brain?

Re: thank you john ! was that vietnam war or korean ?

linda A on 11/09/01 at 02:59 (064468)

i can hardly imagine that heavy thing bobby on your head . sounds like your daughter is very special . one of my best friends is a rad tech . she used to teach all the students that came to our hospital . the university of louisville decided to do some cut backs to the health program , so they cut out the rad program . now we only have about 10 major hospital in louisville, ky . did that make sense to cut back the rad program . NO ---that is a very sore subject to bring up to my friend . the only closest program is 30-40 mi away . now louisville just spent alot of money recruiting a new basketball coach rick pitino ( loved the guy ) and spent a lot of money on their sports program . , but said there was no money for higher education . linda

Re: thank you john ! was that vietnam war or korean ?

john h on 11/09/01 at 09:22 (064489)

Linda: Vietnam

Re: john---- were you in your helicopter

BrianG on 11/10/01 at 19:10 (064641)

John, you ARE a manley man!!! 1969, Tet offensive, bad deal, very bad part of the country. Happy Veteran's Day, people like you have ensured we are free today.

BCG

Re: john---- were you in your helicopter

john h on 11/11/01 at 08:55 (064662)

brian: i would gladly trade a tour at the DMZ or Afgan for a cure of PF.