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Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

Posted by DR Zuckerman on 11/29/01 at 21:25 (065693)

Dear Footpain Sufferers,

Since being on the Board for over a year, I have noticed a great
disparity between people who have the financial resources to try various
treatments and shoes and those who have very limited resources.

Dr. Z. has graciously accepted my request for him to play Santa Claus
for a needy PF sufferer this Christmas. My hope is that we could raise
enough funds to purchase two pairs of Dr. Z. recommended shoes and
orthodics for at least one needy person with PF... something he believes
will specifically help them. With vision, we might be able to help
several people. Dr. Z. has also very generously offered to pledge a
pair of orthosis or powerstep inserts.

So, my question for those of us blessed with adequate resources, is what
can we do? How much can you give? Some of us may only be able to send
$5.00. Someone out there may be able to send $1000.00. Each and every
gift I know will come from the heart, because we know what it is like to
have foot pain.

I have long wanted to do this and find a way that would be ethical.
Over the web, it is difficult to know who is needy and who is not.
Therefore, I asked Dr. Z. if he could find a needy PF sufferer from
among his patients and asked if we could send the donations to his
office and feel assured that the money would go to a needy PFer... one
of his patients he personally knows to desperately need proper footwear
and orthodic support. As most of us know, orthodics and orthopedic
quality shoes are not covered by most insurance policies. It breaks my
heart to think that recovery or at least significant improvement is
denied to many people with PF simply because they don't have the money
to purchase the products.

If you are willing to help, please send your donation to Dr. Z. and
identify that it is for the PF Christmas Charity.

Thank you,
Santa's Helper

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

Suzanne D on 11/30/01 at 11:32 (065727)

I went to the Ask the Doctors message board, clicked on Dr. Z'sr name, and found his web page. Is the address near the bottom where we should send any donation that we might be able to give? I don't have a great amount of money to give but will gladly send what I can to hopefully help someone in pain.

Thank you for coordinating this effort.

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

Carmen on 11/30/01 at 14:50 (065753)

Me too...What's the address?

Re: Dr. Z. Thanks. We need your correct address.

Beverly on 11/30/01 at 15:29 (065757)

Dr. Z., thank you so much for your willingness to coordinate this. As always, you are thoughtful and go above and beyond the call of duty. We need your address posted on where to send the funds.

Thanks,
Beverly

Re: Dr. Z. Thanks. We need your correct address.

DR Zuckerman on 12/01/01 at 07:11 (065792)

David Zuckerman DPM
The Foot Specialist pc
341 South Evergreen Ave
Woodbury, New Jersey 08096

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

Pauline on 12/01/01 at 10:59 (065815)

Contrary to one of the statements in Santa's lette,r I believe that most
orthotics and Special shoes are covered by many or most insurance companies as long as need can be proven. While I think your idea of giving is the correct one I'm not sure that I can go along with it, only because I have read that many Pods have gone into what I would call the 'shoe' business. I am not refering to Dr. Z because I do not know if he is selling shoes out of his office or not. But there are some who have taken on where Dr. Scholl left off.

This was in fact one of the more recent topics in 'Podiatry On line newsflash'. The entry basicly said it would be another way for them to capture part of the market.

I'm not sure I would want to donate to this type of shoe sale, however on the other hand I have a friend for instance who requires a 'totally Custom made shoe along with a special insert' This product cannot be made in a Pods office and cannot be sold directly from there although a prescription can be generated there. For someone needing this type of product and having no insurance, I feel your contribution ideas is a great one. The only problem here is that insurance does cover such shoes.

But if we are just donating money to help promote a new line of shoes now being sold in Pods offices than I would not contribute.

Another ideas covering the orthotic idea is that the Doctor could approach the Orthotic Manufacturer that he deals with and ask for a generous contribution for one or two pair for his poorest patients with no insurance coverage. Surely at this giving time of the year they might offer to cover part of the cost for several pairs and donations could cover the remainder thus providing more pairs.

I feel your idea of giving is great, I just guestion what will be given in terms of the words 'custom or special' as they apply to shoes and orthotics.

Re: Pauline, please don't throw cold water on this project.

Beverly on 12/01/01 at 13:02 (065825)

Pauline,

Please don't throw cold water on this generous project. I know my insurance so wasn't willing to pay for any of my shoes or orthodics. They would only help diabetics and amputees!

Remember, Dr. Z. is also donating to this. He's a good guy. Please don't look for something negative when this is all being done in good spirit.

Contacting the manufacturer is a good idea. But I will still give to this project because giving blesses the giver as much as the recipient. It makes me feel good to know that I am helping someone who can't afford shoes and orthodics get them. By sending $$, it allows Dr. Z. to help the patient get what he or she needs and not be limited to what a particular manufacturer was willing to donate.

A doctor patient relationship is about trust. I trust Dr. Z. I have all the confidence in the world that my money will be used to help the patient.

Before you say but they could get it through medicaid, remember that medicaid has numerous restrictions. Many people fall through the cracks in the system.

Beverly

Re: Pauline, please don't throw cold water on this project.

Pauline on 12/01/01 at 15:33 (065835)

Beverly,
Please be assured that throwing cold water on thie act of kindness was never my intention. I personally would rather donate toward an ESWT treatment rather than shoes or Orthotics mainly because of having read the article that I spoke about.

Also there have been several postings in the past from people who spent their hard earned money on expensive orthotics only to put them in the closet because they could never wear them. I would hate to think that we donated money for orthotics with very good intentions only to find that the person receiving them couldn't wear them either---Our donation money could just end up sitting in someone closet doing no good for anyone.

Everyone looks at making donations in many different ways and my own personal choice would be donating toward an ESWT treatment knowing that Dr. Z does provide additional free treatments if necessary and he seems to get good results in curing P.F. with them. My second choice would be to donate to a Shriners Hospital to help a child with leg or feet problems.

A positive thing to remember about making a donation during the holidays or throughout the year is that it comes from the heart and you donate to the charity or project of your choice where you think your donation can best be used.

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

nancy s. on 12/01/01 at 19:25 (065860)

i had very good hmo coverage at the beginning of pf, and it wouldn't even consider paying for the two pairs of custom orthotics i bought. that has been the experience of most people i know -- the average insurance does not cover orthotics or special shoes for pf, tts, and most of the other ailments discussed on this board.

so pauline, don't contribute to this if it isn't your charity of choice. simple solution. others may want to, however, so i'd let the discussion take place and not make a big deal of it.

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

JudyS on 12/01/01 at 19:46 (065862)

Ditto that, Nantique......

Re: Pauline, please don't throw cold water on this project.

DR Zuckerman on 12/01/01 at 21:17 (065870)

Actually if we are talking about orthosis this was my plan. Eliminate my profit side of the orthosis and pay for the cost of the lab. I have already been offered by Richard to make one pair of orthosis at no charge.

I have to agree this is a tough project. The person who came up with this
idea has very good intentions. I am always willing to help out with this project. What we could do is have a patient who needs orthosis or shoes
e-mail DR. Z and I will contact the doctor to let him know I am paying for this out of the heelspurs.com fund. Donating to the Shriners hospital is also a great idea. So I would be willing to 'manage ' any donations to any patient in need of heel pain care whether it be from DR. Z or any doctor.
I can also remove my portion of the ESWT fee in my group. What I mean by this is there are a group of doctors that are involved in the organization. There is a separation of fees into two parts one the doctor fee and two the technical fee. So my fee reduction would be $800. The cost would therfore be $1700 for ESWT one foot, all additional treatment included. Any other though just let me know

Re: Drs here Thanking for the generosity

Tammie on 12/01/01 at 21:25 (065871)

Dr. Z and the Dr.s here I think have proved how very generous they are. Giving is a wonderful thing not only from the pockets but also of the heart and mind! I trust that u would surely be honest to find a person in need! Look at all you offer to those here and no charge. I admire u and the other dr.s here who give of themselves. This alone is a great gift! How could we ever find so much knowledge and advice and all for no cost. Thank u for your gift to all of us! And tho I am not rich or well off I would like to help even if it is in a small way. I wish I could do more!

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

Pauline on 12/02/01 at 06:36 (065887)

Nancy,
Your correct it's a discusion and everyone can do what is comfortable for them.

Re: Pauline we could use ESWT donations please and thanks

DR Zuckerman on 12/02/01 at 07:18 (065890)

I have a few ESWT patients rigth now in my practice that can't aford ESWT.
Payment plans won't even help. They do have insurance but who wants to get surgery if they can have ESWT first.

I am serious. Donations will help with these donations.

Re: Drs here Thanking for the generosity

Suzanne D on 12/02/01 at 08:04 (065894)

AMEN to what Tammie has said! It has been nothing short of remarkable to me to find this site and to see that there are doctors who take their time to give of their knowledge with no charge to help those of us suffering from various foot problems.

May the blessings of this season enrich all our lives.

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

Suzanne D on 11/30/01 at 11:32 (065727)

I went to the Ask the Doctors message board, clicked on Dr. Z'sr name, and found his web page. Is the address near the bottom where we should send any donation that we might be able to give? I don't have a great amount of money to give but will gladly send what I can to hopefully help someone in pain.

Thank you for coordinating this effort.

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

Carmen on 11/30/01 at 14:50 (065753)

Me too...What's the address?

Re: Dr. Z. Thanks. We need your correct address.

Beverly on 11/30/01 at 15:29 (065757)

Dr. Z., thank you so much for your willingness to coordinate this. As always, you are thoughtful and go above and beyond the call of duty. We need your address posted on where to send the funds.

Thanks,
Beverly

Re: Dr. Z. Thanks. We need your correct address.

DR Zuckerman on 12/01/01 at 07:11 (065792)

David Zuckerman DPM
The Foot Specialist pc
341 South Evergreen Ave
Woodbury, New Jersey 08096

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

Pauline on 12/01/01 at 10:59 (065815)

Contrary to one of the statements in Santa's lette,r I believe that most
orthotics and Special shoes are covered by many or most insurance companies as long as need can be proven. While I think your idea of giving is the correct one I'm not sure that I can go along with it, only because I have read that many Pods have gone into what I would call the 'shoe' business. I am not refering to Dr. Z because I do not know if he is selling shoes out of his office or not. But there are some who have taken on where Dr. Scholl left off.

This was in fact one of the more recent topics in 'Podiatry On line newsflash'. The entry basicly said it would be another way for them to capture part of the market.

I'm not sure I would want to donate to this type of shoe sale, however on the other hand I have a friend for instance who requires a 'totally Custom made shoe along with a special insert' This product cannot be made in a Pods office and cannot be sold directly from there although a prescription can be generated there. For someone needing this type of product and having no insurance, I feel your contribution ideas is a great one. The only problem here is that insurance does cover such shoes.

But if we are just donating money to help promote a new line of shoes now being sold in Pods offices than I would not contribute.

Another ideas covering the orthotic idea is that the Doctor could approach the Orthotic Manufacturer that he deals with and ask for a generous contribution for one or two pair for his poorest patients with no insurance coverage. Surely at this giving time of the year they might offer to cover part of the cost for several pairs and donations could cover the remainder thus providing more pairs.

I feel your idea of giving is great, I just guestion what will be given in terms of the words 'custom or special' as they apply to shoes and orthotics.

Re: Pauline, please don't throw cold water on this project.

Beverly on 12/01/01 at 13:02 (065825)

Pauline,

Please don't throw cold water on this generous project. I know my insurance so wasn't willing to pay for any of my shoes or orthodics. They would only help diabetics and amputees!

Remember, Dr. Z. is also donating to this. He's a good guy. Please don't look for something negative when this is all being done in good spirit.

Contacting the manufacturer is a good idea. But I will still give to this project because giving blesses the giver as much as the recipient. It makes me feel good to know that I am helping someone who can't afford shoes and orthodics get them. By sending $$, it allows Dr. Z. to help the patient get what he or she needs and not be limited to what a particular manufacturer was willing to donate.

A doctor patient relationship is about trust. I trust Dr. Z. I have all the confidence in the world that my money will be used to help the patient.

Before you say but they could get it through medicaid, remember that medicaid has numerous restrictions. Many people fall through the cracks in the system.

Beverly

Re: Pauline, please don't throw cold water on this project.

Pauline on 12/01/01 at 15:33 (065835)

Beverly,
Please be assured that throwing cold water on thie act of kindness was never my intention. I personally would rather donate toward an ESWT treatment rather than shoes or Orthotics mainly because of having read the article that I spoke about.

Also there have been several postings in the past from people who spent their hard earned money on expensive orthotics only to put them in the closet because they could never wear them. I would hate to think that we donated money for orthotics with very good intentions only to find that the person receiving them couldn't wear them either---Our donation money could just end up sitting in someone closet doing no good for anyone.

Everyone looks at making donations in many different ways and my own personal choice would be donating toward an ESWT treatment knowing that Dr. Z does provide additional free treatments if necessary and he seems to get good results in curing P.F. with them. My second choice would be to donate to a Shriners Hospital to help a child with leg or feet problems.

A positive thing to remember about making a donation during the holidays or throughout the year is that it comes from the heart and you donate to the charity or project of your choice where you think your donation can best be used.

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

nancy s. on 12/01/01 at 19:25 (065860)

i had very good hmo coverage at the beginning of pf, and it wouldn't even consider paying for the two pairs of custom orthotics i bought. that has been the experience of most people i know -- the average insurance does not cover orthotics or special shoes for pf, tts, and most of the other ailments discussed on this board.

so pauline, don't contribute to this if it isn't your charity of choice. simple solution. others may want to, however, so i'd let the discussion take place and not make a big deal of it.

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

JudyS on 12/01/01 at 19:46 (065862)

Ditto that, Nantique......

Re: Pauline, please don't throw cold water on this project.

DR Zuckerman on 12/01/01 at 21:17 (065870)

Actually if we are talking about orthosis this was my plan. Eliminate my profit side of the orthosis and pay for the cost of the lab. I have already been offered by Richard to make one pair of orthosis at no charge.

I have to agree this is a tough project. The person who came up with this
idea has very good intentions. I am always willing to help out with this project. What we could do is have a patient who needs orthosis or shoes
e-mail DR. Z and I will contact the doctor to let him know I am paying for this out of the heelspurs.com fund. Donating to the Shriners hospital is also a great idea. So I would be willing to 'manage ' any donations to any patient in need of heel pain care whether it be from DR. Z or any doctor.
I can also remove my portion of the ESWT fee in my group. What I mean by this is there are a group of doctors that are involved in the organization. There is a separation of fees into two parts one the doctor fee and two the technical fee. So my fee reduction would be $800. The cost would therfore be $1700 for ESWT one foot, all additional treatment included. Any other though just let me know

Re: Drs here Thanking for the generosity

Tammie on 12/01/01 at 21:25 (065871)

Dr. Z and the Dr.s here I think have proved how very generous they are. Giving is a wonderful thing not only from the pockets but also of the heart and mind! I trust that u would surely be honest to find a person in need! Look at all you offer to those here and no charge. I admire u and the other dr.s here who give of themselves. This alone is a great gift! How could we ever find so much knowledge and advice and all for no cost. Thank u for your gift to all of us! And tho I am not rich or well off I would like to help even if it is in a small way. I wish I could do more!

Re: Christmas Time is near so lets help !!

Pauline on 12/02/01 at 06:36 (065887)

Nancy,
Your correct it's a discusion and everyone can do what is comfortable for them.

Re: Pauline we could use ESWT donations please and thanks

DR Zuckerman on 12/02/01 at 07:18 (065890)

I have a few ESWT patients rigth now in my practice that can't aford ESWT.
Payment plans won't even help. They do have insurance but who wants to get surgery if they can have ESWT first.

I am serious. Donations will help with these donations.

Re: Drs here Thanking for the generosity

Suzanne D on 12/02/01 at 08:04 (065894)

AMEN to what Tammie has said! It has been nothing short of remarkable to me to find this site and to see that there are doctors who take their time to give of their knowledge with no charge to help those of us suffering from various foot problems.

May the blessings of this season enrich all our lives.