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My heels are killing me

Posted by JoyceS on 1/16/02 at 04:44 (070144)

I have now read so much on-line about this subject an the hope that I had in my heart is withering fast. It seems as if all I am reading is horror stories. I am frightened and am worried that I will not find the right person to help me. It seems like there is so much widespread discrepancy in everything I read-PF surgery is good-PF surgery is terrible; Ossatron is wonderful but I can't get insurance approval. To read about vital active people whose lives have been destroyed and have to revolve around chronic foot pain is so discouraging. I am now praying very hard that I will be led to that one person, whoever it may be, who will lead me in the right direction. Some people say PF surgery is a simple procedure; others say ' Don't let anyone ever operate on your feet.' What is the real story? Thanks for letting me vent. I'm scared of pain meds but if I have to resort to them then hopefully I will find someone who can lead me to a pain management Center.

Re: My heels are killing me

Jen R on 1/16/02 at 06:40 (070152)

Joyce,

ESWT is getting great results but...the best thing about ESWT is that even if it doesn't work for you...it is highly unlikely that you would be any worse after having it. This is not true about surgery. Surgery can have devasting effects which I am experiencing first hand. Although I can get around quite well, I am in alot of pain. My surgery was much more aggressive than just a RF Release, but any foot surgery should not be entered into lightly. If you do decide to have surgery...please do your homework when selecting a surgeon. I chose an excellent surgeon who operates only on feet and whose reputation is outstanding.

The most important thing I can emphasize to you is that I would always recommend ESWT before surgery as long as you are a good candidate. It is expensive (and not guaranteed to work) but the chance of living without foot pain is well worth the cost.

Good Luck,

Jen R

Re: Hopefully this will help

BrianG on 1/16/02 at 11:43 (070193)

Hi Joyce,

Did you get a chance to look at the web site I posted, http://www.pain.com ? At the bottom of the home page, there is a link to pain clinics worldwide. I did a check for Clearwater, and found four clinics.

West Fl Pain Management, 1521 Druid Rd East
Gerald Trimble, MD

Columbia Belleair Surgery Center, 1130 Ponc De Leon Blvd.
Jayam K Iyer, MD

Countryside Surgical Center, 3291 No McMullen Boothe Rd.
Carol Myrick Brewer, MD

Florida Spine Instutute, 2250 Drew St.
No doctor listed

This is just a list from Clearwater. If you check the site, I'm sure you will find many more clinics in your area. I'm not recommending any of these, as I've never been to any of them. I can tell you that all pain clinics are not created equal. Some have doctors that are more compassionate. Some want to do nothing but give blocks (not good in my opinion). Some may offer a 12 week program like I took. There are lots of options. It is OK to call the clinic ahead of time, and ask what types of treatment they generally use. Talk to the recpt. or even better a nurse, to get a feel of how they treat their patients. One thing you don't want to do is waste your time running from clinic, to clinic. That in itself can increase your pain, etc. Good luck

BCG

Re: Hopefully this will help

JoycesS on 1/17/02 at 04:46 (070237)

Thanks so much for all that information on pain management centers in my area. It sure helps to talk to people who know what you are going through firsthand.

Re: Hopefully this will help

BrianG on 1/17/02 at 08:51 (070251)

No problem, it only took a couple of minutes and I do know how the pain can zap your strength and make everything such a chore. Keep us posted, and good luck.

BCG

Re: My heels are killing me

Ed Davis, DPM on 1/23/02 at 22:12 (071072)

Joyce:

Keep in mind that you are reading a board which has a predominance of people with difficult cases; individuals whom, in some cases did not get proper treatment, individuals who have had surgical complications, and individuals who did all the right things but for some reason beyond our comprehension are still in pain.

Plantar fasciitis is extremely common. The vast majority of patients obtain treatment, are cured and have very little problems so you should not become unnecessarily worried. The important thing is that you find a practitioner who you can trust to give you proper guidance. Read Scott's Heel Pain Book to get an overview of the treatments available. The bottom line is that treatment is, for the most part, non-surgical. Yes, there are patients who must be treated surgically but they represent less than 2% of individuals with plantar fasciitis. The important thing is that all non-surgical means of treatment be tried, applied properly and exhausted before moving forward with surgery. If a doctor recommends surgery for plantar fasciitis, ask how many such procedures he/she has performed. If the answer is 'hundreds' then head for the door as fast as possible. I have been in practice for almost 20 years and would guestimate that I have treated about 8000 cases of plantar fasciitis. Two percent of 8000 is 160 which is probably how many surgeries for plantar fasciitis I have done in 20 years.
Ed

Re: My heels are killing me

John h on 1/26/02 at 22:01 (071479)

How right you are Dr. Davis. My reading indicates 6 million new cases of PF each year with over 90% totally resolved by conservative treatment. Only about 3% result in surgery or become chronic. People who arrive on this board are really lucky if they come here after only having this problem for a few months. They have an excellent chance of complete cure.

Re: My heels are killing me

Carole C on 1/26/02 at 22:58 (071482)

Joyce, Ed is right, and not all of us here are doing so badly. I've made quite a lot of progress in the past month and a half of conservative treatment, trying many of the ideas from Scott's heel pain book, and also from people here on the message board and from my pedorthist.

My first PF symptoms were in September, and by November I was in terrible pain and unable to live my life, and very depressed, but since then I have made great efforts to do what must be done. I've been healing very nicely except when I do something that I know is stupid and it sets me back. Now I can do almost everything that I want to do, though I still have minor symptoms and I'm being cautious in order to play it safe. Also I know that PF heals slowly and that it's kind of a roller coaster, so I'm not assuming that I'm done with it yet.

I do not recall what you have done as far as conservative treatment is concerned, but I urge you to take action immediately if there is anything you haven't already tried. Rest is especially important, with feet up, whether that fits into your life or not. Stretching, taping, icing, a shower stool, never walking one step without orthotics or Birkenstocks... try to find the combination of ideas that works for you. I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you join me in my relatively speedy and uneventful recovery (so far).

I don't normally read this section of the message board, because I don't think I will ever need ESWT (knock on wood!) but when I saw your message I just had to answer and try to give you hope. Don't despair! It can get better.

Carole C

Re: To John My heels are killing me

Pauline on 1/29/02 at 15:28 (071822)

John,
Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. I've had P.F. three times now. Each lasting aprox 18 months give or take a month or two. Each time I've only used conservative treatment. No ESWT or surgery and each time I've gotten rid of my P.F. The last case was by far the most difficult until I began using the Jade cream which I still use to this day. I've tried custom orthotics 3 times and finally decided my feet were making the correct decision to discard them in favor of taping and good running shoes. I rotate my running shoes often, 3 pair each the same.

One common thread I logged in my journel about each case is that every time I had P.F. I would also get some pain in the palm of my hands. I've been checked for arthritic and lupus problems and everything was negative, but this palm problem and the P.F. problem make me wonder if the two are not related by something else going on in the body.

Recently, I injured my hip and had to go for physical therapy and only then did I realize how loose my hip muscles had become. They were stretched, but very loose. I think this may have contributed to my P.F., but I'm also beginning to think more about an autoimmune connection because of my palms always seeming to be involved during the P.F. The palms clear up faster than the P.F. Since I've journeled only my cases, I can only compare them to each other and they have been very similar each and every time. The P.F. seems to appear out of the blue nothing that would bring it on like extreme running or walking etc. Strange, but I'm glad to be pain free once again. This time I am making a concentrated effort to strengthen my arches and exercise my entire foot. Lot's of daily hands on morning and night, strengthing my hip muscles and keeping stretched from the hip to the toes.

Re: Pauline

wendyn on 1/29/02 at 18:44 (071850)

Pauline - if this is the right Pauline...

I have not seen you around for a while...how are the eyes?

If my memory serves me correctly - which it doesn't always....

Re: To John My heels are killing me

Carole C in NOLA on 1/30/02 at 07:48 (071900)

Pauline, I too wonder if your PF and the pain in the palm of your hands might be related. It seems to me that PF can arise from the PF being over-stressed, and this could happen more easily if the degree of elasticity of the PF tissues changes for some reason.

I'm 53, and for obvious reasons I've noticed that many of my body tissues are becoming less elastic in the past year, not just my PF; my hormonal state at this age is affecting the elasticity. But there are many other factors rather than change of life that can also affect elasticity of tissues, I would think.

I think that your observation concerning the pain in the palm of your hands is excellent and could be very helpful to you. Thank you for relating this; I will definitely be on the lookout for any similar symptoms in my palms in the future. When your palms begin to hurt, it seems like it would definitely be time to start conservative PF treatment and maybe you can forestall the worst of the PF symptoms. Can you do that? At any rate, I am glad to hear that you have 'happy feet' at the moment, and good luck in keeping them that way.

Carole C

Re: To Carole

Pauline on 1/31/02 at 09:58 (072067)

Carole,
I will certainly be on the look out. In my case, I think the two are related in someway. I definately think the hands clear up faster because I don't have to walk on them. No hand stands or hand walking here, but feet well you know we use them all the time even though we try to rest them. It definately isn't enough. Once that inflammation starts it
really takes off. I wonder if you could stop the inflammation dead in it's track instantly if you could stop the P.F. from getting worse and shorten it's course.

Sounds crazy and I don't think any physician would do it, but at the first sign of P.F. if you got an immediate infussion of an anti-inflammatory or steroid (the bad word) a mega dose could you stop it cold? By the time the anti-imflammatories begin to work it's weeks down the road and the inflammation is well underway. Steroids who really wants steroids if you can avoid them. So currently prevention seems to be the key I guess then try ESWT for the full blown case.

I'm still very much against surgery, because I've not been convinced it helps anyone except the doctor doing the surgery. I call it the Bible text. P.F. surgery beget's another surgery and that one beget's the next
until you have a foot with a family of related pain. I've seen to much of this same story on this board and I personally think it's only the tip of the iceburg, but hay anyone is free to try it.

Re: To Wendyn

Pauline on 1/31/02 at 19:47 (072137)

Wendyn,
Thanks for asking. Nothing has changed and unfortunately I must live with an eye filled with debris in constant motion within that eye. It's more than just annoying. The solution would be a vitrectomy which most Retina
Specialist will not offer because the risk and benefit scale is not in balance. The risks could mean total loss of vision all together.

I've started the first support group of it's kind World Wide for fellow sufferers at a local hospital and am working with some medical writers to do some articles for awareness. I've made contact with a physician in Calif who just got a grant and will begin research which may lead to a safer cure down the road. Fund raising and awareness projects are keeping me pretty busy.

In addition, I'm working on a display for Women's History Month to honor 'Women of the Military'. I'm in the process of collecting photos, personal accounts, memorabilia, and doing research which has helped to keep my mind focused on other people and other things. It's been difficult at times, but I feel this project has been long over due in our community and well worth the time and effort.

Thank God the feet are good. By the 18th of the month, I had been to three funerals, watch two friends have strokes, one undergo a triple bypass and my housekeepers husband diagnosed with Bone Cancer. Looking at these, I guess I have a lot to be thankful for.

I hope all is well with you and 2002 provides you and all who post on this site health, and happiness.

Re: pauline

nancy s. on 1/31/02 at 19:53 (072140)

pauline, i wish you all the best and hope that one day there'll be a solution to your eye affliction. your philosophy and actions in dealing with it are just terrific, and i admire them -- good luck to you.
nancy

Re: To Pauline

Tammie on 1/31/02 at 20:20 (072141)

Hello, I am sorry that you have been left with eye problems, I am also sorry that I really don't exactly understand much about the eyes. But I respect the enjoyment they give us and keep this in mind when I find myself piety partying myself. I enjoy reading and the outdoors , I apreciate natural beauty!

You apear to be a strong woman and it is nice to see that you have taken this eye trouble and have put instead something positive with it in hopes of helping others! That is to be admired! You are a gracious person to keep others in mind while trying to deal with it yourself, but then you are right who better to help and understand others with same troubles then one themselves going thru it! I must say I am very grateful to those here who have continued there support in feet troubles cause when I came here I new nothing, and as each day goes on I find myself grasping all knowledge up like I cant get enough of it. Information and support is a life line for people and I am glad and proud that you are helping others as well.Take care and may God bless you always! You are wonderful to help others. Have a wonderful day with a special dose of love and sunshine in your heart!

Re: To Pauline

wendyn on 1/31/02 at 20:23 (072142)

Pauline, I'm very sorry to hear about your eye problems and that they can't be fixed. Anyone with the same problem will benefit by your hard work and dedication in reaising awareness.

Please keep in touch.

Re: pauline

John h on 1/31/02 at 21:47 (072151)

Pauline will you please give my your eye diagnosis once again. Seems it was similar to mine which went away on its own after some months. Symptoms were floaters and flashing lights. It had to do with the viterous detaching. Sacared the hell out of me as I thought I had a detached retina. Doctor said my problem was not unusual and that in some months it should clear up. It did and that was probably 10 years ago. No problems since

Re: To Pauline

LynK on 3/03/02 at 21:40 (075588)

I, too, have eye debris and it is annoying. However, I feel that it is gettin smalled. My friend had it and it has completely disappeared after two years. Just be patient.

Re: My heels are killing me

Jen R on 1/16/02 at 06:40 (070152)

Joyce,

ESWT is getting great results but...the best thing about ESWT is that even if it doesn't work for you...it is highly unlikely that you would be any worse after having it. This is not true about surgery. Surgery can have devasting effects which I am experiencing first hand. Although I can get around quite well, I am in alot of pain. My surgery was much more aggressive than just a RF Release, but any foot surgery should not be entered into lightly. If you do decide to have surgery...please do your homework when selecting a surgeon. I chose an excellent surgeon who operates only on feet and whose reputation is outstanding.

The most important thing I can emphasize to you is that I would always recommend ESWT before surgery as long as you are a good candidate. It is expensive (and not guaranteed to work) but the chance of living without foot pain is well worth the cost.

Good Luck,

Jen R

Re: Hopefully this will help

BrianG on 1/16/02 at 11:43 (070193)

Hi Joyce,

Did you get a chance to look at the web site I posted, http://www.pain.com ? At the bottom of the home page, there is a link to pain clinics worldwide. I did a check for Clearwater, and found four clinics.

West Fl Pain Management, 1521 Druid Rd East
Gerald Trimble, MD

Columbia Belleair Surgery Center, 1130 Ponc De Leon Blvd.
Jayam K Iyer, MD

Countryside Surgical Center, 3291 No McMullen Boothe Rd.
Carol Myrick Brewer, MD

Florida Spine Instutute, 2250 Drew St.
No doctor listed

This is just a list from Clearwater. If you check the site, I'm sure you will find many more clinics in your area. I'm not recommending any of these, as I've never been to any of them. I can tell you that all pain clinics are not created equal. Some have doctors that are more compassionate. Some want to do nothing but give blocks (not good in my opinion). Some may offer a 12 week program like I took. There are lots of options. It is OK to call the clinic ahead of time, and ask what types of treatment they generally use. Talk to the recpt. or even better a nurse, to get a feel of how they treat their patients. One thing you don't want to do is waste your time running from clinic, to clinic. That in itself can increase your pain, etc. Good luck

BCG

Re: Hopefully this will help

JoycesS on 1/17/02 at 04:46 (070237)

Thanks so much for all that information on pain management centers in my area. It sure helps to talk to people who know what you are going through firsthand.

Re: Hopefully this will help

BrianG on 1/17/02 at 08:51 (070251)

No problem, it only took a couple of minutes and I do know how the pain can zap your strength and make everything such a chore. Keep us posted, and good luck.

BCG

Re: My heels are killing me

Ed Davis, DPM on 1/23/02 at 22:12 (071072)

Joyce:

Keep in mind that you are reading a board which has a predominance of people with difficult cases; individuals whom, in some cases did not get proper treatment, individuals who have had surgical complications, and individuals who did all the right things but for some reason beyond our comprehension are still in pain.

Plantar fasciitis is extremely common. The vast majority of patients obtain treatment, are cured and have very little problems so you should not become unnecessarily worried. The important thing is that you find a practitioner who you can trust to give you proper guidance. Read Scott's Heel Pain Book to get an overview of the treatments available. The bottom line is that treatment is, for the most part, non-surgical. Yes, there are patients who must be treated surgically but they represent less than 2% of individuals with plantar fasciitis. The important thing is that all non-surgical means of treatment be tried, applied properly and exhausted before moving forward with surgery. If a doctor recommends surgery for plantar fasciitis, ask how many such procedures he/she has performed. If the answer is 'hundreds' then head for the door as fast as possible. I have been in practice for almost 20 years and would guestimate that I have treated about 8000 cases of plantar fasciitis. Two percent of 8000 is 160 which is probably how many surgeries for plantar fasciitis I have done in 20 years.
Ed

Re: My heels are killing me

John h on 1/26/02 at 22:01 (071479)

How right you are Dr. Davis. My reading indicates 6 million new cases of PF each year with over 90% totally resolved by conservative treatment. Only about 3% result in surgery or become chronic. People who arrive on this board are really lucky if they come here after only having this problem for a few months. They have an excellent chance of complete cure.

Re: My heels are killing me

Carole C on 1/26/02 at 22:58 (071482)

Joyce, Ed is right, and not all of us here are doing so badly. I've made quite a lot of progress in the past month and a half of conservative treatment, trying many of the ideas from Scott's heel pain book, and also from people here on the message board and from my pedorthist.

My first PF symptoms were in September, and by November I was in terrible pain and unable to live my life, and very depressed, but since then I have made great efforts to do what must be done. I've been healing very nicely except when I do something that I know is stupid and it sets me back. Now I can do almost everything that I want to do, though I still have minor symptoms and I'm being cautious in order to play it safe. Also I know that PF heals slowly and that it's kind of a roller coaster, so I'm not assuming that I'm done with it yet.

I do not recall what you have done as far as conservative treatment is concerned, but I urge you to take action immediately if there is anything you haven't already tried. Rest is especially important, with feet up, whether that fits into your life or not. Stretching, taping, icing, a shower stool, never walking one step without orthotics or Birkenstocks... try to find the combination of ideas that works for you. I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you join me in my relatively speedy and uneventful recovery (so far).

I don't normally read this section of the message board, because I don't think I will ever need ESWT (knock on wood!) but when I saw your message I just had to answer and try to give you hope. Don't despair! It can get better.

Carole C

Re: To John My heels are killing me

Pauline on 1/29/02 at 15:28 (071822)

John,
Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. I've had P.F. three times now. Each lasting aprox 18 months give or take a month or two. Each time I've only used conservative treatment. No ESWT or surgery and each time I've gotten rid of my P.F. The last case was by far the most difficult until I began using the Jade cream which I still use to this day. I've tried custom orthotics 3 times and finally decided my feet were making the correct decision to discard them in favor of taping and good running shoes. I rotate my running shoes often, 3 pair each the same.

One common thread I logged in my journel about each case is that every time I had P.F. I would also get some pain in the palm of my hands. I've been checked for arthritic and lupus problems and everything was negative, but this palm problem and the P.F. problem make me wonder if the two are not related by something else going on in the body.

Recently, I injured my hip and had to go for physical therapy and only then did I realize how loose my hip muscles had become. They were stretched, but very loose. I think this may have contributed to my P.F., but I'm also beginning to think more about an autoimmune connection because of my palms always seeming to be involved during the P.F. The palms clear up faster than the P.F. Since I've journeled only my cases, I can only compare them to each other and they have been very similar each and every time. The P.F. seems to appear out of the blue nothing that would bring it on like extreme running or walking etc. Strange, but I'm glad to be pain free once again. This time I am making a concentrated effort to strengthen my arches and exercise my entire foot. Lot's of daily hands on morning and night, strengthing my hip muscles and keeping stretched from the hip to the toes.

Re: Pauline

wendyn on 1/29/02 at 18:44 (071850)

Pauline - if this is the right Pauline...

I have not seen you around for a while...how are the eyes?

If my memory serves me correctly - which it doesn't always....

Re: To John My heels are killing me

Carole C in NOLA on 1/30/02 at 07:48 (071900)

Pauline, I too wonder if your PF and the pain in the palm of your hands might be related. It seems to me that PF can arise from the PF being over-stressed, and this could happen more easily if the degree of elasticity of the PF tissues changes for some reason.

I'm 53, and for obvious reasons I've noticed that many of my body tissues are becoming less elastic in the past year, not just my PF; my hormonal state at this age is affecting the elasticity. But there are many other factors rather than change of life that can also affect elasticity of tissues, I would think.

I think that your observation concerning the pain in the palm of your hands is excellent and could be very helpful to you. Thank you for relating this; I will definitely be on the lookout for any similar symptoms in my palms in the future. When your palms begin to hurt, it seems like it would definitely be time to start conservative PF treatment and maybe you can forestall the worst of the PF symptoms. Can you do that? At any rate, I am glad to hear that you have 'happy feet' at the moment, and good luck in keeping them that way.

Carole C

Re: To Carole

Pauline on 1/31/02 at 09:58 (072067)

Carole,
I will certainly be on the look out. In my case, I think the two are related in someway. I definately think the hands clear up faster because I don't have to walk on them. No hand stands or hand walking here, but feet well you know we use them all the time even though we try to rest them. It definately isn't enough. Once that inflammation starts it
really takes off. I wonder if you could stop the inflammation dead in it's track instantly if you could stop the P.F. from getting worse and shorten it's course.

Sounds crazy and I don't think any physician would do it, but at the first sign of P.F. if you got an immediate infussion of an anti-inflammatory or steroid (the bad word) a mega dose could you stop it cold? By the time the anti-imflammatories begin to work it's weeks down the road and the inflammation is well underway. Steroids who really wants steroids if you can avoid them. So currently prevention seems to be the key I guess then try ESWT for the full blown case.

I'm still very much against surgery, because I've not been convinced it helps anyone except the doctor doing the surgery. I call it the Bible text. P.F. surgery beget's another surgery and that one beget's the next
until you have a foot with a family of related pain. I've seen to much of this same story on this board and I personally think it's only the tip of the iceburg, but hay anyone is free to try it.

Re: To Wendyn

Pauline on 1/31/02 at 19:47 (072137)

Wendyn,
Thanks for asking. Nothing has changed and unfortunately I must live with an eye filled with debris in constant motion within that eye. It's more than just annoying. The solution would be a vitrectomy which most Retina
Specialist will not offer because the risk and benefit scale is not in balance. The risks could mean total loss of vision all together.

I've started the first support group of it's kind World Wide for fellow sufferers at a local hospital and am working with some medical writers to do some articles for awareness. I've made contact with a physician in Calif who just got a grant and will begin research which may lead to a safer cure down the road. Fund raising and awareness projects are keeping me pretty busy.

In addition, I'm working on a display for Women's History Month to honor 'Women of the Military'. I'm in the process of collecting photos, personal accounts, memorabilia, and doing research which has helped to keep my mind focused on other people and other things. It's been difficult at times, but I feel this project has been long over due in our community and well worth the time and effort.

Thank God the feet are good. By the 18th of the month, I had been to three funerals, watch two friends have strokes, one undergo a triple bypass and my housekeepers husband diagnosed with Bone Cancer. Looking at these, I guess I have a lot to be thankful for.

I hope all is well with you and 2002 provides you and all who post on this site health, and happiness.

Re: pauline

nancy s. on 1/31/02 at 19:53 (072140)

pauline, i wish you all the best and hope that one day there'll be a solution to your eye affliction. your philosophy and actions in dealing with it are just terrific, and i admire them -- good luck to you.
nancy

Re: To Pauline

Tammie on 1/31/02 at 20:20 (072141)

Hello, I am sorry that you have been left with eye problems, I am also sorry that I really don't exactly understand much about the eyes. But I respect the enjoyment they give us and keep this in mind when I find myself piety partying myself. I enjoy reading and the outdoors , I apreciate natural beauty!

You apear to be a strong woman and it is nice to see that you have taken this eye trouble and have put instead something positive with it in hopes of helping others! That is to be admired! You are a gracious person to keep others in mind while trying to deal with it yourself, but then you are right who better to help and understand others with same troubles then one themselves going thru it! I must say I am very grateful to those here who have continued there support in feet troubles cause when I came here I new nothing, and as each day goes on I find myself grasping all knowledge up like I cant get enough of it. Information and support is a life line for people and I am glad and proud that you are helping others as well.Take care and may God bless you always! You are wonderful to help others. Have a wonderful day with a special dose of love and sunshine in your heart!

Re: To Pauline

wendyn on 1/31/02 at 20:23 (072142)

Pauline, I'm very sorry to hear about your eye problems and that they can't be fixed. Anyone with the same problem will benefit by your hard work and dedication in reaising awareness.

Please keep in touch.

Re: pauline

John h on 1/31/02 at 21:47 (072151)

Pauline will you please give my your eye diagnosis once again. Seems it was similar to mine which went away on its own after some months. Symptoms were floaters and flashing lights. It had to do with the viterous detaching. Sacared the hell out of me as I thought I had a detached retina. Doctor said my problem was not unusual and that in some months it should clear up. It did and that was probably 10 years ago. No problems since

Re: To Pauline

LynK on 3/03/02 at 21:40 (075588)

I, too, have eye debris and it is annoying. However, I feel that it is gettin smalled. My friend had it and it has completely disappeared after two years. Just be patient.