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Interesting to say the least

Posted by Pauline on 3/28/02 at 21:05 (077906)

I couldn't believe I was reading this. Interesting to say the least. I wonder if there is a site for U.S. citizens during a raid? Never thought about it before.

How can you protect yourself during an Immigration raid?
The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) has been carrying out a lot of raids recently. Here's what you should do if you find yourself in that situation.

Don't allow the INS to enter without authorization.
To enter a building, workplace or home, the INS must have permission from the boss or the owner of the house; or an order signed by a judge, describing the area that the INS wants to inspect and the people they want to question. Don't give your consent, and demand to see the judge's order.
Don't run! Stay calm.
INS agents can only arrest someone if there is a 'reasonable suspicion' that the person is undocumented. You can leave the place walking calmly, but if you look nervous or run, the agent can use that as additional evidence that you are undocumented. The INS cannot use race, appearance or not speaking English as a 'reasonable suspicion' of someone's immigration status.

Don't tell anyone where you're from or whether or not you have documents. Demand to speak with a lawyer!*
The INS can't deport you if they don't have the necessary information to prove that you don't have documents. Tell the INS agent that you won't give any information until you speak with a lawyer. NEVER give information about your nationality, immigration status or how you entered the US. The INS can deport you using that information.
If the INS arrests you, demand to speak with your lawyer. You should always have 25 cents and the name and telephone number of a lawyer you can call. If you don't have a lawyer, call a relative or close friend who can look for a lawyer for you.

Don't sign anything until you speak with a lawyer.
If the INS arrests you, they are going to pressure you to sign a document accepting your voluntary departure. If you sign it, you could lose important rights. Demand your right to speak with a lawyer before signing any document.

Don't give false documents to the INS.
It's very dangerous to use false documents. If the INS catches you with false documents, they can make you pay a fine, and they can deport you and permanently bar you from living legally in the US.

Even if you have documents, you don't have to show them.
Everyone has the right to not show documents, even if we are legal residents or citizens. If those who have documents act in solidarity with those who don't, and don't show their documents, the INS can't do its work.

Prepare yourself for a raid by coming up with a plan of action.
Tell your friends, relatives and co-workers what their basic rights are during a raid. Try to come up with an agreement that if there is a raid, everyone--regardless of their immigration status--will refuse to talk to the INS and will demand to speak with a lawyer.

* If you stay silent the INS can arrest you, and if you don't have enough money to pay the bail, you could be held in prison for some time. If you cooperate with the INS, giving them the information they want, there is a possibility that they won't keep you detained while they proceed with your deportation case. However, staying silent can give you an advantage, because without your cooperation the INS might not be able to get the necessary information to start deportation proceedings against you. This also depends on the information that your employer may have given the INS. Because each person has a different situation, it's better to speak with a lawyer to know your options and make an informed decision. You can also prepare yourself for this situation by speaking with a laywer now so that you'll have an idea of what to do if you're arrested by the INS.
To report a raid, call the Latino Workers Center, (Monday through Friday, 11am-6pm): 212-473-3936. To report a raid in Long Island, call the Workplace Project: 516-565-5377.

These organizations work for the rights of immigrant workers, and participate in the Coalition for the Human Rights of Immigrants. If you call these numbers to report a raid with all the available information (how many people were arrested, where the raid took place, what happened to the people who were arrested, etc.), we can organize a response in solidarity and try to pressure the INS to let the detainees go.

For more information about what to do if you are arrested by the INS, or how to resolve your immigration status, call the 'New York Immigration Hotline,' operated by Travelers Aid Services, at 718-899-4000. This hotline provides confidential information and referrals in a number of different languages. (If you're calling from another part of New York state, outside New York City, you can call the same line at 800-232-0212.)

Help us to stop the INS raids, and to educate people about their rights! Join the Coalition for the Human Rights of Immigrants.

Coalition for the Human Rights of Immigrants
339 Lafayette St
New York, NY 10012
tel 212-645-5230
fax 212-645-6243
email (email removed)

Re: Interesting to say the least

BG CPed on 3/28/02 at 21:21 (077908)

Very interesting indeed AND sickening. What these people are talking about is organized and conspiring to commit crimes. They are not legal immigrants but ILLEGAL. We had a situation where the state legislature wanted to change the law that if you were illegal you could not get a drivers license. With terrorists etc, this is an opportunity to get other forms of id.

There were severalprotests and the leader of the group was demanding that they be called 'undocumented workers' and not illegal aliens

Re: Interesting to say the least

Pauline on 3/28/02 at 21:29 (077909)

If you want your blood pressure to go up check out this site. The U.S citizens in California have their vote overturned on this one. It really makes you wonder who has ownership of this country.

http://www.cornellreview.org

Re: Interesting to say the least

Pauline on 3/28/02 at 21:36 (077910)

Complete site address
http://www.cornellreview.org/viewart.cgi?num=107

Re: Interesting to say the least

BG CPed on 3/28/02 at 22:02 (077911)

Sounds like The Gov, Gray Davis is trying to buy the next election without having to raise funds, guess it is easier to make the taxpayers do it for him

Re: Interesting to say the least

BG CPed on 3/28/02 at 21:21 (077908)

Very interesting indeed AND sickening. What these people are talking about is organized and conspiring to commit crimes. They are not legal immigrants but ILLEGAL. We had a situation where the state legislature wanted to change the law that if you were illegal you could not get a drivers license. With terrorists etc, this is an opportunity to get other forms of id.

There were severalprotests and the leader of the group was demanding that they be called 'undocumented workers' and not illegal aliens

Re: Interesting to say the least

Pauline on 3/28/02 at 21:29 (077909)

If you want your blood pressure to go up check out this site. The U.S citizens in California have their vote overturned on this one. It really makes you wonder who has ownership of this country.

http://www.cornellreview.org

Re: Interesting to say the least

Pauline on 3/28/02 at 21:36 (077910)

Complete site address
http://www.cornellreview.org/viewart.cgi?num=107

Re: Interesting to say the least

BG CPed on 3/28/02 at 22:02 (077911)

Sounds like The Gov, Gray Davis is trying to buy the next election without having to raise funds, guess it is easier to make the taxpayers do it for him