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Julie

Posted by Carmen on 4/26/02 at 09:06 (081178)

Geez...does it ever end for me??
I posted a question to Dr. C on the foot docs board...would you give me your input?? I'd appreciate it....
:-)
glad youre back.
I missed your advice!

Re: Julie

Julie on 4/26/02 at 15:34 (081214)

Hi Carmen

I saw your question to Dr C. Here is what I think, though of course I can't 'know'; it's just a guess, putting together what I know about body mechanics and about you. I'd guess that the changes to your gait when starting a pair of orthotics could indeed have knock-on effects on the rest of you, especially your knees and hips and lower back - this could happen with anyone, but as you've been prone to problems in all those areas, it's quite likely.

But I'd also expect these effects to go off after a while, once you've become accustomed to the orthotics. If the discomfort and pain continue for any length of time, I'd report them to whoever prescribed and made the orthotics. How long have you had them?

Any help?

I'm sure the doctor will respond too.

Re: Julie

Carmen on 4/26/02 at 18:01 (081233)

I have had them only about two weeks MAXIMUM and I don't wear them 100% of the time...MOST of the time though....so I anticipate this to go on for a bit. The Pod I have been writing with says about 1 or two months depending on the severity and length of my problems. He is a Pod that specializes in biomechanics...my Pod's office told me to get off the orthotics right away...after a week or two I should be able to wear them without problems. This just tells me again that there is a huge difference when someone examinesthe 'total' lower extremity area and not just the feet.
My feet have gone through some crazy changes lately...weird feelings...better but weird.
yes as usual you make me feel better. :o>
thank you.

Re: Julie

Julie on 4/27/02 at 05:17 (081284)

Carmen

If you've had the orthodics for only two weeks you probably shouldn't be worrying. Your hips and back, all the areas where you've had foot-related problems in the past, are obviously going to complain when you change things, and will take time to settle.

I'd guess the answer is to break the orthotics in very slowly, and let it take however long it takes. You say you 'don't wear them 100% of the time'. Now THAT worries me! You shouldn't be wearing them for more than half an hour at a time, which is roughly 2% - maybe 4% if you discount your sleeping hours. :) And increasing the time very gradually.

There is no such thing as 'just the feet', as you and I know very well. The whole of the lower extremity AND the lower back are all one continuum, and I wish all foot doctors, orthopaedic specialists, all back specialists and yes, all doctors of all sorts, realized this.

Nothing in the body happens in isolation.

I'm glad I made you feel better!

Cheers, Julie

Re: Orthotics

wendyn on 4/27/02 at 09:27 (081306)

I remember that my last pair of orthotics gave me a lot of body and leg pain for the first couple weeks.

The important thing is that you shouldn't get a lot of new pain in your feet.

Re: Orthotics

Diane O. on 4/27/02 at 20:21 (081377)

Hi Carmen
When I first got my orthotics I was told to wear them about a half hour the first day and gradually increase my wearing time by about a half hour each day until I could wear them for the entire day. My orthotics never liked my feet. I seemed to get more pain like the arch was too hard or too high and it was pressing into that terrible sore spot that you can probably identify with. I kept wearing them but complained to whoever that would listen but not the right people. I bought them in Dec and just brought them back a couple of weeks ago to have them adjusted a couple of times.. They no longer press on that sore spot but still not quite comfortble. They may need a couple more adjustment..... So, maybe you need to break them in slower and then if they still are giving you trouble try having them adjusted.
A funny story... A couple of years ago pre-PF, I went to work put on my new runners that I had bought a few weeks prior and started on my marry way. Before long my knees and hips were killing me to the point that I was limping and hobbling around. Another nurse who accupressure had me lie down on an empty bed and tried to HEAL me. Well...it wasnt until after my third shift wearing what I thought were my new runners that I realized I was wearing another persons shoes with their custom orthotics. Same shoe, same size just different insoles........I was HEALED. LOL LOL
Sorry for babbling
Diane O.

Re: Orthotics

Carmen on 4/27/02 at 20:47 (081385)

Oh my gosh Diane. You just gave me an out loud laugh from he&%!!!!
I am laughing still...
VERY funny story. Post it seperately and title the subject ' for a PF giggle...'
lord you just made my day,

Re: Orthotics

mike dills on 7/08/02 at 23:45 (089331)

Try the good feet store, if you order by mail you can return in 30 cays per US Mail regulations. Nothing to lose, plenty to gain.

This is not a ad. I work there and they work

Michael Dills Riverside, CA

Re: Orthotics

Ed Davis, DPM on 7/09/02 at 14:12 (089359)

ESWT may be an option. Read the message board on this site concerning that modality.

Use the search feature to get more information about the Alznner devices and the Good Feet Store. Their devices are not custom made and not inexpensive. It generally takes more than 30 days to determine the efficacy of such devices.
Ed

Re: Orthotics

Mahatmelissama on 7/09/02 at 17:42 (089372)

I used the alznner's. Caused my high arch feet to cramp up. I would not recommend them. The store will not give you a full refund (they only will let you exchange the otc orthodics for another foot product). I bought mine at the Good Foot store in Milpitas, CA and that is my own experience.

(Trying to save someone $300.00 here. ;)

Re: Julie

Julie on 4/26/02 at 15:34 (081214)

Hi Carmen

I saw your question to Dr C. Here is what I think, though of course I can't 'know'; it's just a guess, putting together what I know about body mechanics and about you. I'd guess that the changes to your gait when starting a pair of orthotics could indeed have knock-on effects on the rest of you, especially your knees and hips and lower back - this could happen with anyone, but as you've been prone to problems in all those areas, it's quite likely.

But I'd also expect these effects to go off after a while, once you've become accustomed to the orthotics. If the discomfort and pain continue for any length of time, I'd report them to whoever prescribed and made the orthotics. How long have you had them?

Any help?

I'm sure the doctor will respond too.

Re: Julie

Carmen on 4/26/02 at 18:01 (081233)

I have had them only about two weeks MAXIMUM and I don't wear them 100% of the time...MOST of the time though....so I anticipate this to go on for a bit. The Pod I have been writing with says about 1 or two months depending on the severity and length of my problems. He is a Pod that specializes in biomechanics...my Pod's office told me to get off the orthotics right away...after a week or two I should be able to wear them without problems. This just tells me again that there is a huge difference when someone examinesthe 'total' lower extremity area and not just the feet.
My feet have gone through some crazy changes lately...weird feelings...better but weird.
yes as usual you make me feel better. :o>
thank you.

Re: Julie

Julie on 4/27/02 at 05:17 (081284)

Carmen

If you've had the orthodics for only two weeks you probably shouldn't be worrying. Your hips and back, all the areas where you've had foot-related problems in the past, are obviously going to complain when you change things, and will take time to settle.

I'd guess the answer is to break the orthotics in very slowly, and let it take however long it takes. You say you 'don't wear them 100% of the time'. Now THAT worries me! You shouldn't be wearing them for more than half an hour at a time, which is roughly 2% - maybe 4% if you discount your sleeping hours. :) And increasing the time very gradually.

There is no such thing as 'just the feet', as you and I know very well. The whole of the lower extremity AND the lower back are all one continuum, and I wish all foot doctors, orthopaedic specialists, all back specialists and yes, all doctors of all sorts, realized this.

Nothing in the body happens in isolation.

I'm glad I made you feel better!

Cheers, Julie

Re: Orthotics

wendyn on 4/27/02 at 09:27 (081306)

I remember that my last pair of orthotics gave me a lot of body and leg pain for the first couple weeks.

The important thing is that you shouldn't get a lot of new pain in your feet.

Re: Orthotics

Diane O. on 4/27/02 at 20:21 (081377)

Hi Carmen
When I first got my orthotics I was told to wear them about a half hour the first day and gradually increase my wearing time by about a half hour each day until I could wear them for the entire day. My orthotics never liked my feet. I seemed to get more pain like the arch was too hard or too high and it was pressing into that terrible sore spot that you can probably identify with. I kept wearing them but complained to whoever that would listen but not the right people. I bought them in Dec and just brought them back a couple of weeks ago to have them adjusted a couple of times.. They no longer press on that sore spot but still not quite comfortble. They may need a couple more adjustment..... So, maybe you need to break them in slower and then if they still are giving you trouble try having them adjusted.
A funny story... A couple of years ago pre-PF, I went to work put on my new runners that I had bought a few weeks prior and started on my marry way. Before long my knees and hips were killing me to the point that I was limping and hobbling around. Another nurse who accupressure had me lie down on an empty bed and tried to HEAL me. Well...it wasnt until after my third shift wearing what I thought were my new runners that I realized I was wearing another persons shoes with their custom orthotics. Same shoe, same size just different insoles........I was HEALED. LOL LOL
Sorry for babbling
Diane O.

Re: Orthotics

Carmen on 4/27/02 at 20:47 (081385)

Oh my gosh Diane. You just gave me an out loud laugh from he&%!!!!
I am laughing still...
VERY funny story. Post it seperately and title the subject ' for a PF giggle...'
lord you just made my day,

Re: Orthotics

mike dills on 7/08/02 at 23:45 (089331)

Try the good feet store, if you order by mail you can return in 30 cays per US Mail regulations. Nothing to lose, plenty to gain.

This is not a ad. I work there and they work

Michael Dills Riverside, CA

Re: Orthotics

Ed Davis, DPM on 7/09/02 at 14:12 (089359)

ESWT may be an option. Read the message board on this site concerning that modality.

Use the search feature to get more information about the Alznner devices and the Good Feet Store. Their devices are not custom made and not inexpensive. It generally takes more than 30 days to determine the efficacy of such devices.
Ed

Re: Orthotics

Mahatmelissama on 7/09/02 at 17:42 (089372)

I used the alznner's. Caused my high arch feet to cramp up. I would not recommend them. The store will not give you a full refund (they only will let you exchange the otc orthodics for another foot product). I bought mine at the Good Foot store in Milpitas, CA and that is my own experience.

(Trying to save someone $300.00 here. ;)