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Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Posted by Alex D on 11/21/02 at 23:00 (100870)

I'm just wondering if it is true or not, that orthotic supports actually help stability that much for an 'average' foot. I saw the infomercial for Phase IV and had it done to me at a GoodFeet store. It seemed real, but now that I try it at home I can't see a clear difference. Is it a trick? What's the science behind it?

Thanks,

ALex

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Eduardo on 11/22/02 at 01:10 (100872)

Voodoo science. Slight of hand. Hope you didn't fall for the sales pitch.
The great tradition of P.T. Barnum lives on.

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Richard, C.Ped on 11/22/02 at 10:07 (100897)

Actually, it is true. When fitting for snow ski boots in our ski shop, that is something that we have been using for over 10 years now. It shows how a properly made footbed, or orthosis, can help stance balancing. We use a 1/4' or less ruler, or magazine and place it under the ball of the foot. That will show how out of balance you can be if your stance is off slightly.

What I do not like about the Good Feet store, all the talk they do, you are going to pay way to much for a non-custom item. I would not recommend them
to my worst enemy. The people who I have spoken to at our local GF store did not know anything about the foot. Only what they have been told in their training. I lost count of how many times I could stump them. I had to really try hard not to laugh at some of their answers.

My opinion only

Richard, C.Ped

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Mahatmelissama on 11/22/02 at 11:26 (100907)

I have a pair of I think around size 9 of theirs (I wear a size 11 wide in women). I would be glad to mail it to you if it works for you. I only use them to scrap ice off my windshield the couple of times a year it gets that cold here.

They do not give you a refund back if you want one...instead you must get a 'credit' to buy some other product in the store.

Be fore warned...I am out of 215 dollar over a year ago.

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Alex D on 11/22/02 at 22:18 (100958)

Thanks for your feedback. I'd like to get those orthotics if you're serious about mailing them to me. My e-mail is (email removed)

Thanks,

Alex

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Alex D on 11/22/02 at 22:19 (100959)

Thank you Richard. You are very knowledgeable and I appreciate your time and input.

Alex

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Ed Davis, DPM on 12/07/02 at 19:37 (102155)

Richard:
Have you seen the balance 'test' they use? I am not sure that you are doing the same thing.
Ed

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

sandy h on 12/07/02 at 20:07 (102158)

I find the orthotics knock me off balance. You have to get used to a whole new position of your foot. I think running before I'd got the right sense of balance in orthotics totally screwed my feet up and I'm still better at standing on one foot without them.

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

BGCPED on 12/11/02 at 13:28 (102727)

I think they used the same training manual that was developed by Jim Jones form the now defunct Jonestown. If you look close most of the sales people have a purple mustache from drinking the Kool-Aid

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Richard, C.Ped on 12/13/02 at 09:30 (102915)

Brian...you kill me! LOL
Richard

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

BGCPED on 12/14/02 at 12:56 (103101)

For my next trick I will apply leech therapy to all pf patients for $300 per foot. They will stimulate blood flow to the area of insertion. I will claim that I have special treated ones that can disolve a spur as well

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Richard, C.Ped on 12/14/02 at 12:58 (103102)

And when you are finished, I will rub snake oil on the feet to help with the healing for the amazing low price of $200.00 per foot...what a bargain!!!!
Richard

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Pauline on 12/14/02 at 17:14 (103117)

You might have hit on something certainly not yet tried for P.F. Perhaps you should run free trials. Leeches and maggots have been used with some success in specific medical applications. Actually leeches are bred in labs for medical purposes and have been used to help restore circulation following some attachment surgeries.

Although your joking and people are not too fond of them it certainly would be interesting to see if indeed they helped eliminate inflammation
associated with P.F.

Lots cheaper than ESWT.

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Richard, C.Ped on 12/16/02 at 10:14 (103286)

Thats correct Pauline. I do quite a bit of diabetic foot care as well, and I have seen some maggot therapy. Those little suckers are born and bred in a sterile environment.
~shivers~
Richard

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Pauline on 12/16/02 at 16:08 (103310)

They sure do a good clean up job too. Probably just part of their breeding:*)

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Eduardo on 11/22/02 at 01:10 (100872)

Voodoo science. Slight of hand. Hope you didn't fall for the sales pitch.
The great tradition of P.T. Barnum lives on.

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Richard, C.Ped on 11/22/02 at 10:07 (100897)

Actually, it is true. When fitting for snow ski boots in our ski shop, that is something that we have been using for over 10 years now. It shows how a properly made footbed, or orthosis, can help stance balancing. We use a 1/4' or less ruler, or magazine and place it under the ball of the foot. That will show how out of balance you can be if your stance is off slightly.

What I do not like about the Good Feet store, all the talk they do, you are going to pay way to much for a non-custom item. I would not recommend them
to my worst enemy. The people who I have spoken to at our local GF store did not know anything about the foot. Only what they have been told in their training. I lost count of how many times I could stump them. I had to really try hard not to laugh at some of their answers.

My opinion only

Richard, C.Ped

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Mahatmelissama on 11/22/02 at 11:26 (100907)

I have a pair of I think around size 9 of theirs (I wear a size 11 wide in women). I would be glad to mail it to you if it works for you. I only use them to scrap ice off my windshield the couple of times a year it gets that cold here.

They do not give you a refund back if you want one...instead you must get a 'credit' to buy some other product in the store.

Be fore warned...I am out of 215 dollar over a year ago.

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Alex D on 11/22/02 at 22:18 (100958)

Thanks for your feedback. I'd like to get those orthotics if you're serious about mailing them to me. My e-mail is (email removed)

Thanks,

Alex

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Alex D on 11/22/02 at 22:19 (100959)

Thank you Richard. You are very knowledgeable and I appreciate your time and input.

Alex

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Ed Davis, DPM on 12/07/02 at 19:37 (102155)

Richard:
Have you seen the balance 'test' they use? I am not sure that you are doing the same thing.
Ed

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

sandy h on 12/07/02 at 20:07 (102158)

I find the orthotics knock me off balance. You have to get used to a whole new position of your foot. I think running before I'd got the right sense of balance in orthotics totally screwed my feet up and I'm still better at standing on one foot without them.

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

BGCPED on 12/11/02 at 13:28 (102727)

I think they used the same training manual that was developed by Jim Jones form the now defunct Jonestown. If you look close most of the sales people have a purple mustache from drinking the Kool-Aid

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Richard, C.Ped on 12/13/02 at 09:30 (102915)

Brian...you kill me! LOL
Richard

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

BGCPED on 12/14/02 at 12:56 (103101)

For my next trick I will apply leech therapy to all pf patients for $300 per foot. They will stimulate blood flow to the area of insertion. I will claim that I have special treated ones that can disolve a spur as well

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Richard, C.Ped on 12/14/02 at 12:58 (103102)

And when you are finished, I will rub snake oil on the feet to help with the healing for the amazing low price of $200.00 per foot...what a bargain!!!!
Richard

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Pauline on 12/14/02 at 17:14 (103117)

You might have hit on something certainly not yet tried for P.F. Perhaps you should run free trials. Leeches and maggots have been used with some success in specific medical applications. Actually leeches are bred in labs for medical purposes and have been used to help restore circulation following some attachment surgeries.

Although your joking and people are not too fond of them it certainly would be interesting to see if indeed they helped eliminate inflammation
associated with P.F.

Lots cheaper than ESWT.

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Richard, C.Ped on 12/16/02 at 10:14 (103286)

Thats correct Pauline. I do quite a bit of diabetic foot care as well, and I have seen some maggot therapy. Those little suckers are born and bred in a sterile environment.
~shivers~
Richard

Re: balance and orthotics are a problem for me

Pauline on 12/16/02 at 16:08 (103310)

They sure do a good clean up job too. Probably just part of their breeding:*)

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Jan D on 8/23/04 at 17:17 (158591)

First of all, my feet have been hurting me for 2mos. I was on vacation I could barley walk. I had seen the informercial, which made me go and see if this is true. I walk in the foot specialist had me to walk on this ink pad, which made an imprint of my feet. The darker part of the ink indicated actually where the pain was coming from. Without me even saying a word. I was impressed! He then explained what was going on with my feet. He gave me a balance test by pressing down on his folded hands. I rocked forward. Same with my hands around my back, and pressing down. I rocked backwards. He brought out some arch support inserts. I tried them on, I did not rock forward or backwards I was balanced, and instantly the pain was gone from my feet. I could not believe it. My husband saw a smile on my face for the first time in 2mos.
Now, the price was exemtrely high $400.00. I told the specialist that I would go to my own doctor when I return from vacation. He then gave me the paperwork to take to my doctor. Let me tell you, I showed my doctor the information. My doctor examined my feet and his diagnosis was Planter Faciitis. He gave me pain medication and arch supports. I'm in pain as I type this messages to you. I'm thinking seriously about going back to the specialist, and to pay the price. Because he showed me something that my doctor couldn't without medication.

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Pauline on 8/24/04 at 13:49 (158627)

Jan,
Before you lay out $400 for a pair of over the counter orthotics please do a search on this site on the Good Foot store. The people selling you this product have little knowledge about feet or the product the are selling.
They measure your foot it your lucky although they may just ask you your shoe size then go in the back and bring out several pair varying in price.

Believe me just because you rock doesn't mean that you'll walk with comfort. I visited my local Good Foot store just to see their product and how it was sold. On that day they were even willing to sell a pair of their most expensive ones to a very frail older woman who couldn't even stand without being assisted. I told her daughter she didn't need the good foot store she needed to visit her doctor.

What you tried in the short period of time you rocked on those orthotics is more than likely a great deal different than what you may feel when you begin to actually wear the product.

For the same price that you are willing to pay them, you can find a doctor willing to make you CUSTOM orthotics that actually match your foot.

I'm not a doctor, nor do I wear orthotics because I could never wear the several pair that I purchased. They were all Rx orthotics custom made and my feet would just not tolerate wearing them. I paid a lot of money for several pair of 'ice scrapers' that caused more pain to my feet than good.

Some of us wear orthotics and others do not. Do your homework, read about the Good Foot Store on this site and then decide.

Good luck.

Re: Good Feet "balance" test -- real or trick?

Richard, C.Ped on 8/24/04 at 14:36 (158628)

Do the search as Pauline stated. You will find the majority says to stay away from the GFS.