For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentPosted by Sharon W on 7/23/03 at 18:25 (125075)
Most of us have heard of RSD, and many of us have exchanged messages here with someone who suffers from it. Yet, it often goes unrecognized, undiagnosed, and untreated... If you ever feel like what you're going through is too much to bear, read the story of this young woman:
Re: For Grace -- here's the storySharon W on 7/23/03 at 18:28 (125076)
Oops, this is actually a link to her story:
Re: Thx, SharonPam S. on 7/23/03 at 22:08 (125103)
Sharon: Have I thanked you lately for all the great info you share with all of us. You must have some great resources. I love the articles you send. I have learned alot from you. Warmly, Pam
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentMax K on 7/23/03 at 22:21 (125104)
I don't know Cynthia Toussaint, but I am in email contact with someone who knows her and helps as a volunteer for Cynthia's RSD awareness work. This person told me that forgrace.org will launch a National Awareness Campaign in September, to include among other things a new forum on the website forgrace.org.
It seems to me that there could be no better spokesperson for RSD than a ballerina, because when you think ballerina, you think: someone who is very strong, very flexible, and very fit. When such a person is hit with this devastating disease, like Cynthia was, its gotta be for real, not 'in her head.' There is a parallel in there somewhere with Christopher Reeve (=Superman) and his paralyzing spinal injury.
Re: question for SharonPam S. on 7/23/03 at 22:28 (125106)
Has there been any research on why certain people get RSD and others do not? I guess it is the same as with any illness. Who would think a hamstring injury would cause RSD. What a heartbreaking story. I am just so glad there is increased awareness of so many pain syndromes now. Hopefully our children and grandchildren will not encounter this. Pam
Re: Thx, SharonSuzanne D on 7/23/03 at 22:49 (125110)
Re: For PamSharon W on 7/23/03 at 22:58 (125112)
The only medical-research-supported answer I've seen for that question was one based on pain; there is evidence to suggest that chronic at least chronic pain syndromes, in general, are brought about by untreated (or inadequately treated) and unrelenting pain. Why one person would end up getting RSD, the most extreme chronic pain condition I know of, and someone else would end up with a somewhat milder condition, I don't know.
How about it, Brian G?? Do you know?
Or -- maybe Elliott?
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentSharon W on 7/23/03 at 23:11 (125113)
Max, Pam, Suzanne,
Related to what happened to this young ballerina is the way that women are treated in our health system. Women are more likely to go to the doctor for a painful condition (such as RSD), but we are LESS likely to receive treatment for our pain than a man is.
Please, ladies (and supportive men) take a look at this petition:
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentSharon W on 7/24/03 at 08:30 (125124)
You're absolutely right -- a ballerina like Cynthia makes a great symbol for RSD awareness, because there is poignant irony in her story.
Still, I hesitated to post this link because I didn't want those we know with RSD to think that their disability is any less important than Cynthia's, or that what they go through just to get appropriate medical attention is any more acceptable, just because they aren't ballet stars!
I understand that RSD is sometimes unavoidable -- but it should NEVER, EVER go unrecognized, undiagnosed, and untreated for over a decade like it did with this young woman and with others.
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentKathy G on 7/24/03 at 09:19 (125126)
Can you imagine the hell this poor girl went through? It is a testament to her strength that she didn't commit suicide and her organization is a testament to her spirit. Whenever someone can take a negative personal experience and make it into something positive, it is so remarkable.
As we've all said, the medical profession has to start to pay attention to people's pain. They've made some strides but they have a long way to go.
Re: equal treatment...Suzanne D on 7/24/03 at 09:43 (125129)
I read it and signed, Sharon. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. If my signature can aid in bringing attention to this awful plight for many, then I am more than happy to be a part of it.
When our beloved pediatrician suffered with cancer and had to retire, we took our daughters to a husband and wife team. There were good things about them, but I found repeatedly that if my husband took one of the children in, they were more likely to prescribe an antibiotic for their illness than if I took them in. This happened several times and became a pattern. The ironic thing is that each and every time I was the one who determined they needed to be seen; just sometimes my husband was able to take them instead of me. But the situation was treated more seriously when he took them in despite the fact that I usually had notes of temperatures through the night, etc., while my husband would just state they were sick and not add any details.
Another aside to being taken seriously in the medical community: my husband is a minister and visits many people while they are hospitalized or in a nursing home or rehab center. He has found that if he goes in with a suit and tie on, he can ask at the desk for many things for the patient that the family cannot seem to accomplish, and he can go see them any time and in most situations. If he comes in dressed more casually, even though he still has the clergy card or whatever, he will not be treated the same. So he always dresses up for those visits because he says that often he can get things done for the patient that way.
Again, not fair...but it happens.
Here's to fairness for all!
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentjohn h on 7/24/03 at 10:57 (125138)
The problem with men is they frequently wait to long to go to the doctor which may contribute to the fact that they live about 8 years less than women.
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentSharon W on 7/24/03 at 11:02 (125139)
That's very true, John, and the fact that men seem to fear their doctors would perceive them as being 'wimps' so they don't even go and complain about pain or try to seek any treatment, is another issue that needs to be addressed by our medical community and by society as a whole.
Re: For Pamjohn h on 7/24/03 at 11:16 (125141)
A facial disorder named Tic Douloureux is considered to cause the most pain known to man. It is chronic and come and go in an instant. An acquaintenance of mine had it and they ended up cutting certain nerves in his face as it would knock him to the ground when an episode would occur. No known cure.
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentMax K on 7/24/03 at 13:05 (125150)
Sharon, have you heard of Dr José L. Ochoa of the Oregon Nerve Center?
He is one of those 'it's all in your head' doctors, at least that's what some of his RSD patients have said:
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentSharon W on 7/24/03 at 13:23 (125151)
That's really disgusting. (It saddens me, to hear that Dr. Ochoa is from Chile! I lived in Chile for 15 years, and Chileans are really good people, as a whole.)
What can we say? Anyone who has ever FELT real pain that doesn't go away in a few minutes, or hours, or days, can see how BARBARIC it is not to treat pain like this when there are treatments available! To me, a doctor who treats his patients like that is little better than a torturer with a tayser and a hot poker.
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentMax K on 7/24/03 at 14:32 (125153)
Here are some more recent patient opinions about Dr Ochoa:
Re: For Grace -- a touching story of how medical ignorance of RSD left a young ballerina suffering without treatmentSharon W on 7/24/03 at 16:47 (125160)
Re: I mean,Sharon W on 7/24/03 at 17:02 (125163)
How can that continue to practice 'medicine'? Wouldn't ALL of his patients rebel against that kind of treatment, sooner or later?
Re: I mean,Kathy G on 7/25/03 at 09:34 (125206)
I wonder how many complaints have been made against this maniac to the Oregon Medical Society? He sounds like a mad man! God help the poor patients who go to him. They are already in pain and he seems to get his kicks by not only inflicting more pain but psychologically abusing them as well. Doesn't it amaze you that he's still in practice?
What a sad commentary on living with pain.
Re: Thx, SharonDr. Z on 7/25/03 at 20:26 (125249)
About two year ago I had a young woman about 20 years old come into my office. She had heel pain for about three months. She had tried everything and nothing helped her heel pain. She was here to find out about ESWT.
She was on crutches. The first thing she told me was that the cast she was in killed her and her doctor couldn't understand why. I looked at her for one minute and RSD ran thru my mind. Comparison of x-rays both feet confiremd RSD.
Due to the early diagnosis, great pain management, physical therapy, Epidural blocks, she is almost pain free today.
She came into my office the other day to say hello and thanked me for saving her life. This was the most exciting thank you I have ever received in my 23 years of practice.
So what is the moral of this story. Early treatment and TAKING the time
learning the EARLY signs of RSD can save a patient a life time of misery.
Re: SharonBrianG on 7/25/03 at 20:32 (125250)
I don't know, Sharon. I'm not sure that anyone knows for that matter. I know there are reseachers working on issues like this, as we type. Hopefully they will soon come up with a cause. Once they have the cause, then they can go for the cure !!!!
Re: Dr. ZSharon W on 7/25/03 at 22:37 (125257)
Thank God for doctors like you, Dr. Z!
Re: To Bad all Dr.sTammie on 7/26/03 at 18:49 (125306)
I wish more Dr.s could do that > If that were the case maybe there would be less cases of RSD! Still seems tho it is coming out more it still is not really out enough for some types of the medical profession.Sad but True.
I WOULD lOVE to be able to get the Dr..s here to post the things to look for when your pain is just not NOrmal type pains anymore.It could save more then one more person!! I remember telling my pod that my pain was more than what the ultram helped and he got angry with me. I remember him telling me Not to worry rest it and the pain would go away . Both very bad for RSD.And both have caused alot more damage then blocks and meds could handle. I would love to make sure that NO ONE from this site or any other site that looks for help or answers misses RSD symptoms as looking here it is noticed around more ofton than not.
Re: Dr. Z Yes I agree Thanks and oops for the dble postTammie on 7/26/03 at 18:51 (125308)
Re: RSDTammie on 7/26/03 at 20:23 (125311)
There are a few here that do know what it is like to understand RSD the three words that tear our lives apart never allowing them to remain the same again. RSD as I have been told by many Dr.s that treat it, say that it is its own nightmare. It has no same pattern it affects each person differently some may have simalar syptoms but then not all or maybe more.
The first symptoms they say are common ,are the burning fire hot poker or machettee,spike like objects felt in our body. It burns so badly you feel that you have to put the fire out with something.For (Me) I cannot use contrasting water baths but some say they are helpful as well as epsom salt soaks. I have flares with that and It makes me feel Like I was out in the sun so much I feel like I am sick Like the fire inside is a high fever, that I must sleep and I try and then when I wake I turn into the ice machine. That is another side Of RSD The freezing cold ice feeling like no matter how much you put on no heat happens.(I have found those heat belts and heating pads in the microwave help me . But others find there ways to help them. Usually the ice spell ends with the shakes and chills and the overall feeling of flu also ,another sick flu like feeling.
Those are the first noticed things, there also are the things such as the stingers you get and the jolts that awake you like you feel as tho you got electricuted the uncomfortable pinchers like bees loose in your body parts that are affected by this rsd and they appear when ever they choose leave when they choose no control over them at all. There are spasams in legs backs arms etc any parts may be afected as RSD can and will spread. It is very important to dx quickly to begin tx quickly so to get into some remission to help not spread.Many get the deep bone pain like the pain is so deep and that you cant do anything to stop it nothing will help no matter what you do those days are horrible and long those days are the ones we hope go fast so that we may keep sane to live for the better ones,those days are the ones that remind us we are NOT in control of OUR bodies no matter how much we would like to be.Those are the days we turn to our friends if we are luckyy to have any left that might believe we are not whine ers or fakers or all in the head skeamers etc. Or if not friends which most of us have lost most of the so call friends that we thought we had we turn to each other those who know what we are going thru and of course our religion if we are those who have that.
They use meds and sympthetic blocks alot as the favorite treatments to bring it in control along with epidurals and pt and some use accupucture and some other types of treatments that I may not be familiar yet with . Then there is the spinal stimulator Like I have done it seems to be popular with some and there are the pain pumps implanted. There are verry many treatments as many as there are of different symptoms of this ugly monster rsd.
I dont know if all were here when I first got dx with it at first I thought the dr.s were telling me it was in my head. As when explained they say the sympathetic nerves run thru your spine and the signals of pain go thru to your brain and when your body has so much pain and it has not been relieved for some time it forgets to heal or stop sending those pain signals to the brain so your body and your brain cant turn it off and it like short circuits and it never stops.So then we have to find away to reroute it so to slow down the spread . Pain spreads the rsd it never stops for some that have this RSD I learn a little more each day about this and for any of yous here that even think that RSD is in a persons mind or any were else but there body you should look up it and really read about it it might scare you as it is pretty serious to some!
I was in to recieve my scs implant a 91 yr old woman was to go also she was the bravest person I ever met in my life she had rsd in her female parts and she suffered awful before she had her implant. I hear she is doing good. Her rsd started with a wrist she fell and she never got a dr. to believe her that she had so much pain. Our PM Doc figured it started with her wrist.Her being a woman of later age her complaints were not taken serious and that poor thing suffered more than any one person male or female should ever suffer!
There are a few here that indeed are dx with RSD and with out them alot of rsd might have been overlooked, but for those that cared and love to give of there selves even thru there own pain are ready to help any that may think rsd is somthing they may think is in there life. Laurie and Janet Have pretty full cases I know that Wendyn has some also Sorry but one side effect for me is my memory is not best but I know there are a few more and I am sorry for not being able to get there names. I think as I have said before I really would love to see our Dr.s here do something about RSD somwhere here so that those that have the not so normal pain the other things pointed to rsd I know I have missed alot but it might help save someone else Dr.Z Or Dr. ED. Remember if it is just one off here it could give them a life with out RSD attacking there whole body. Or maybe worse.
I just have read to many lately here and it is scaring me for others that have this surgery it seems as there is a larger % then before when I first came here. Please forgive me if any of my words are wrong or my statements I try really hard to stick to what I really know and understand as I would feel awful to pass on wrong info so if any is not write I hope someone will correct me and that this helps someone as I so want to thank Dr. Z for helping His patient I wish he had been My DR.
Sorry for the long wind I felt the need to get this off my mind like a urgency to let someone understand a bit about rsd from someone who is dealing with it now.
Re: RSDSuzanne D on 7/26/03 at 22:07 (125314)
I hope SO much that the spinal stimulator helps you! Can you tell a difference in the pain yet?
It was kind of you to pour out your heart to try to help others who might be dealing with RSD and not be aware of it. I know I was here through your struggles of understanding what was happening to you and as you accepted your diagnosis. I think of you each and every time I post on this board. I remember your kindness in responding to my post about the memories of my mother's death. I printed out your reply to me and have re-read it several times over the past year and a half. For you to take the time to do that in the midst of your pain shows your great heart.
I pray you get relief from your pain, Tammie.
Re: RSDSharon W on 7/26/03 at 23:21 (125315)
Thank you so very much for sharing that with us. No doubt, many of us have been relieved NOT to find ourselves described by your words... and perhaps, a few of us will be going to see our doctors for more tests. I, too, believe it is better to know what is happening and keep looking until you find a doctor who will give you the treatment you need, than to suffer alone, scared that all the doctors might be right that you really are crazy, but knowing absolutely for sure that you are NOT faking it, even though noone seems to believe you!!
Perhaps doctors don't want to tell us more about the symptoms of this disease because they wouldn't want anyone to FAKE the symptoms of RSD just to get strong pain killers... But there are physical symptoms, too, things that doctors can SEE and FEEL and TEST like color changes and temperature changes and changes in bone density. Things that would be almost impossible for ANYONE to fake!
Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to share this with us, Tammie.
Re: RSDDorothy on 7/27/03 at 02:11 (125320)
Suzanne D., you seem so very kind and I feel that your kind words must surely be helpful to people - I think one of the awful aspects of persistent pain is how desperate and afraid it can make one feel - kindness like your words can often help lighten that and then a person can feel a little freer to re-consider options for dealing with the pain.
Re: RSDCarole C in NOLA on 7/27/03 at 06:43 (125322)
Tammie, thanks for sharing your RSD experiences with the board. Yes, I was here too when your doctors were telling you it was 'all in your head'. It has been a long battle for you and you have been faced with a lot of pain over the years.
When you were talking about the 91 year old woman, you said 'Her being a woman of later age her complaints were not taken serious' and I think this is a big problem in medicine even now. Doctors simply are not being sufficiently educated on the diagnosis, symptoms, and treatments for pain related to menopause and aging, and so they tend to lump all pain from older women into the category of 'hypochondriac'. At least, that seems to be the diagnosis for pain for more and more women that I know as they age. This is even more tragic when the REAL diagnosis should have been something very painful and fairly elusive that doctors seem to find hard to pinpoint right away, like RSD.
Re: RSDSuzanne D on 7/27/03 at 07:58 (125325)
That is so nice of you to say, Dorothy. Thank you! :'>
I feel that if each of us shares what we possess ~ whether it be information, humor, practical advice, a listening ear, a new way of looking at a situation, encouragement, courage, or kindness and concern ~ we are all the better for it. We need some of all of the above, and it is so nice to find a group of people who balance one another and provide so much that we all need for healing. I know I have been helped by so many of you!
Re: RSDTammie on 7/27/03 at 11:08 (125335)
Hi,Well first I do want to tell all of you I did not post to recieve piety or anything LOL This time I posted to really try to help others that really want to understand RSD. It is important to me to show that I am taking more charge of my life now ,good or bad It is my life and I am working very hard to keep it together as there are many trials and errors putting it together again! But as always I have to thank you all for the deep understanding and the caring and the wonderful support you give to me! Gosh this is needed some times!LOL Ok now Business:
Yes the stimulator is helping some, worries that I am having to amny flares of rsd symtoms on my good side ,arm ,hand face,back. Not to mention still my bad surgery foot we did not get good coverage with the stimulator. But the Dr. said we can change some settings after the swelling goes down and the pre op settles down some. It has not been that long really yet.I set little goals for myself now so not to get disapointed. I am learning to acept facts that I most likly will never return to the work I do again It is a fact a risk if I did to lose all the good that we are working on. I will never be able to lift more than 5 lbs. along with twist or bending different movements that may allow the leads to change or be dislodged out of place. At this point I am worry today not tomorrow. It has to be about today as I cant start about any thing else .
I just answered the posts about you all talking about the lady who had rsd and I thought maybe I could add to it from a person who has it,I had no intention of any thing else. I do get very angry about the way medical profession treats age people the elderly are ofton are left to pain as I have worked in a giriatric center for many years I know first hand about that.I had to think this over and it scared me as my hubby had a recent call from his rumy dr. He has rum,arthritis as some may remember, well he had a mri done the called and want him to be seen imediatly by a neuro Dr. who specials with spine surgery as he has some major troubles with his rumey ate away something? and now nerves are pressing into ? And they want him to have surgery right away? All this in one conversation and on friday when you cant find out anything of what they are talking about. I said gosh they said you may become wheelchair bound and look at me I cant help myself he takes ccare of me lately we will be in a nursing home I told him and I got very scared with that thought as I said I have worked there I know what goes on there.
I know how my kids are and know that they are much different from me and would never interupt there lives for us. So see this is why I had to post I did not mean to be about me I just felt compelled to write cause noone knows what tomorrow may bring I am in my middle 40's hubby late40's who would think thease horrible things could happen to us we were so strong and healthy,this is why we need to know our bodies we need to protect our rights and we need to fight for our rights when needed.I miss helping people I am trying to get back to the board a bit but it is hard for me at times as my body sometimes does not like to sit still.But I hope that I help someone or I hope that if anyone would like more info they can email me if they would like. Thanks for the nice words of kindness Carole,Suzanne,Sharon, and anyone who may have posted and I had not seen ! Love to all and keep living that is the main thing never lose hope!
Re: RSDTammie on 7/27/03 at 11:15 (125338)
One more thing here RSD cant be faked no way I do not believe it! There are to many things they test that tell the answers! My Drs all seen it right away all except my pod isnt that a interesting thing? He was the one telling me to keep off my foot and the pain was me . Acording to all of my Dr.s from the Pain Dr.s to the orthos they said I did the worse things to the rsd that was NOT using it and NOT treating the pain That was the cause of the RSD blowing out of control and spreading like wild fire. Interesting. One more thing he now does not DO any releases he uses that eswt thing sorry is spelling wrong. Very interesting.
Just so that pople know the Dr.s can tell if RSD is there they know the symptoms tthere is many tests they like the blocks they say that alone is a test kinda. So I would not be worrying about a fake.Pain from rsd is Like no other pain it will be read on you and there will be no doubt. Some of the tests are painful if it is a area where the rsd is. at least it was for me.
Re: RSDTammie on 7/27/03 at 11:22 (125342)
Carole , Yes you are very right ! But not only Dr.s but people also and insurance comp. Like some wont pay for paps or mamagrams, now that is stupid as if you treat early it will be better for all but they dont think it needed every year. I hate the way insurance dictates to our lives, I cant help it it tells you who you may see how long you may have PT what meds you may take How long, What ops they think are ok, What hosp. Where you may go even if you need a hosp that is close they make you drive 25 miles longer to one in there net work. They say why er visit If it is not a life or death dont go or you pay, if no urgent care wait till day when dr. in that is to much the insurances rule the world not the Dr. or the people the insurance co this is sad. We have to pay so much extra to have better coverage so you dont have miliion dollar coverage when you have lots of health problems.
Re: RSDBevN. on 7/27/03 at 11:40 (125343)
You are such a brave and sweet person to take the time to post and share with us when we know the pain you are in. You have been through so much more than we could ever imagine, and my heart goes out to you . I pray that this new stimulator implant will be the answer for you . It is so very hard to get the doctors to listen to us, that is for sure :( The last dr. I was at did not take the time to read my chart that I sent to him ahead of time ~ and he did not take the time to listen to me when he asked me to tell him about ~ 'what has been going on with me' ~ (he listened for the 18 seconds ~ like the article Sharon posted for us a few days ago) ~ then he said ~ 'you need to see so-and -so to be evaluated for RSD , I can't help you until you see him first.' I do not have the symptoms of RSD ( I probably have PN along with my PF, but not RSD) and he would have known that if he would have only listened for more than the '18 seconds' . Now I have to go and see another doctor for another evaluation before that other doctor will evaluate me further for my painfull chronic PF. What a mess we have to go through to get evaluated for the right thing. Is it because we are WOMEN and they do not take us seriously :-/ I don't know about you all out there, but I know for me , I am getting pretty darned sick and tired of this :((
Anyway, Tammie, I didn't mean to get off in a rage, but I do get upset over the way we get treated sometimes. I am thankful that you are doing better and your long road has lead you to a treatment. I pray that you do better each and every day [-o<
Re: RSDSharon W on 7/27/03 at 11:58 (125346)
Oh, I'm sorry, Tammie, I think I must not have said that very well! I didn't mean that I think RSD would be easy to fake -- I know it ISN'T easy to fake at all, if the doctor knows enough to recognize the signs. I just meant that I suppose a lot of DOCTORS who don't know enough about RSD, probably think that patients could fake having RSD just to get pain drugs, so they might not want to talk about what patients tell them that they experienced when they were developing this condition.
Re: RSDCarole C in NOLA on 7/27/03 at 13:16 (125353)
I couldn't agree more about insurance! More than a third of my paycheck goes to taxes, social security, and insurance, and that seems like so much. Insurance is so expensive, but we have to have it because prices are so high.
I am sure happy that my PF has finally settled down a lot, so that I don't have to buy so much expensive PF stuff (like orthotics, expensive shoes, etc).
When I had my emergency gall bladder surgery 10 years ago, insurance tried to get me to go to another hospital. But it was MY body that a surgeon was going to cut into, my very own torso and I was scared silly. I chose the best surgeon and the best hospital. The insurance company finally surprised me by paying for the nicer hospital, but it took them a couple of years. I think somebody else must have sued about them refusing that hospital, because I didn't.
Re: Tales From the Dark SideEd Davis, DPM on 7/30/03 at 15:00 (125702)
Few posters here realize the nature of 'legal' medicine in this country.
I don't want to discuss the reputation of people I do not know. Nevertheless, the 'subculture' of legal medicine is something that many would find incredible. There are docs and healthcare 'experts' out there who will say something does not exist for the right amount of money and those who will say that a disease exists which doesn't for big bucks. Lawsuits are a big money industry in the US.
My concept of tort reform, which is desperately needed, does not involve arbitrary limits such as caps on awards. The area that really needs reform is the system of expert witnesses who will and do say anything for the right price with no fear of consequences or retribution. As far as I am concerned, expert witnesses should not be insulated from liability and should have to uphold the same standards as the rest of the healthcare professionals.
Re: Tales From the Dark SideDorothy on 7/30/03 at 15:11 (125704)
Anybody read in today's news about the doctor in Nebraska (the newspaper dateline was Lincoln, Neb...) whose office practices/hygiene gave Hepatitis C to patients, some of whom have now died while awaiting a liver transplant. He also did some other illegal things, according to the report, as part of an 'inappropriate relationship' (a la Clinton) he had with a patient? While the police, et al., prepare cases against him, he is now back in his native Pakistan.
What kind of reform do we need for this kind of travesty?
Re: Tales From the Dark SideEd Davis, DPM on 7/30/03 at 17:48 (125719)
The ultimate responsibility lies with the entity that provided him a license to practice in Nebraska -- that state's medical licensing board. Many such boards are in need of major overhauls.