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Never forget

Posted by Dr. Z on 7/27/03 at 19:04 (125383)

http://64.177.83.63/liberty/email.htm

Re: Never forget

Necee on 7/28/03 at 00:22 (125399)

Thanks for sharing this Dr Z.

How very true, we must never forget. We all have a tendency to put things out of our minds that are painful and sad, but this is something we should all remember for the rest of our lives.

Necee

Re: Never forget

Max K on 7/28/03 at 02:05 (125404)

At the end of the presentation, there is a link for 'info':
http://64.177.83.63/liberty/background.htm

If you click on that link, you get some scrolling text. I viewed the source file and edited out the HTML tags and copied it and pasted it below:

Max

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In October of 2002, after hearing all the nay-sayers whining about going to war to fight against terrorism, (and to protect our interests and defend our allies) I wondered; how exactly do we defend and maintain our freedom then? If not by the violent destruction of those who would threaten us, then by what means? There comes a time when even peace loving people have to fight.

It seemed to me that far too many of us had forgotten the real issue in all of this - the people. More precisely, the American people - our Founding Fathers, our veterans, our military, our civil servants and even regular folk - those who have died or could die in the service of this country - in establishing, protecting and maintaining our freedom. If this isn't enough of a reason to go anywhere to fight anyone - to preserve the American way of life - then what is there left on this earth that matters at all? God help us!

I made 'Blood of Heroes' to remind people that everything we enjoy in America today is the result of someone's sacrifice, that it is constantly threatened - and that it is still worth fighting for. Not a lighthearted thought, indeed.

Hopefully, this site will remind us all of the human cost that has been paid for our freedom, our safety and our luxury. A price paid not just so you and I can vote and pray, but also so we can sit on the couch, watching TV, having 30 minute pizzas delivered to our doors. Even if you don't vote or pray, there is still plenty left worth fighting for. Think about that.

With all the invective about 'blood for oil', we are not only justified in going to war we were obligated to do it - and to do it in every place on this earth that ever poses a threat to the American way of life. It isn't blood for oil. It's blood for freedom - the blood of our heroes. We owe it to them... and we owe it to our children. Period.

We are lucky to live in the United States of America and this privilege didn't come cheap.

Our Founding Fathers were not cowards. They made immense sacrifices to establish this Great Nation in freedom - not the least of which was going to war with the enemy of that freedom. All of those who have fought in the subsequent wars and conflicts and those who are fighting today have continued to make sacrifices in order to defend those original ideals. Even now, our civil servants, particularly Firefighters and Police, are making sacrifices to maintain the quality of our lives in this freedom.

If you are not willing to do everything in your power to defend this Great Nation, even taking up arms if it is necessary, then who will? If you will not defend America, that is your choice - but sit in silence and do not criticize those brave and valiant individuals who have the sense of duty, the measure of courage and the determination of heart to protect America... and, I might add, your cowardly soul.

Some have written with criticism. One person said they thought that including the photo of the woman falling from the building was in poor taste. Well, I am sorry you feel that way, but reality isn't always pretty. That woman really did jump - and so did many others.

Yes, the photos are offensive - not because they are graphic in nature - but because of what they represent. None of them are even close, visually speaking, to the level of violence on any major network during prime time. When I hear people make this charge, what I really hear them saying is 'I can't handle reality, I need to be in denial.' Well fine then, go back to sleep Virginia. Brave men will protect you. Just stop criticizing them for doing it the only way they know how, even if it is ugly.

Some people would have us forget that a heavy price has been paid so that we can live in comfort and security, barely even noticing the reality of the world around us. But that privilege didn't just fall out of a box - it was established in blood. The fact that you are comfortable is no reason to take it for granted. On September 11, 2001 - taking it for granted was no longer an option.

I am sorry if you feel that the depiction of actual events should be watered down into some kind of a Hallmark Card event, just so you can feel more comfortable. That kind of logic dictates that we may as well forget the whole thing. Sorry, not here. Not now. Not ever! If we cannot remember this for what it really is, then why remember it at all?

I dare not take any real credit for this presentation. After all, it is only significant because of what it showcases. All I did was take someone else's photos, someone else's quotes and someone else's music and put it all together to try and remind us all of something we should never forget anyway.

The email link is not here for my benefit, but only because I would hate to miss the opportunity to share this with even more people. Many viewers have contacted me through email to ask if they could have a copy to show at gatherings for emergency and military personnel, in their churches and at their schools. That is a huge blessing to me as it means even more people will be reminded.

I hope you will take a few moments to reflect on what we have and who paid for it. Look up and thank God that you live free in a nation that is blessed by Him and defended by heroes.

Romans 5:8,9

May God continue to bless America and all who defend her.

Fly the flag.

Re: Never forget

BrianG on 7/29/03 at 19:00 (125598)

I couldn't connect to the URL, so I never did see who put this presentation together. As I looked at the photo's, I noticed many that I had seen before. In fact the author admits he / she did not take them (photos).

Is it really ethical to use someone else's work (photo's in this case) without giving them credit ????? Don't get me wrong, I appreciated watching it. But, was it done legally?

BrianG

Re: Never forget

john h on 7/30/03 at 09:33 (125632)

Unless pictures are copyrighted you can do what you want with them. Ethically one should give the photographer credit but millions are out there and no one knows who took them.

Re: Never forget

Sharon W on 7/30/03 at 10:30 (125657)

I agree it is very important to remember September 11th, but I also think it is important to remember that we still have young men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan, suffering in 110+ degree heat while carrying weapons and wearing rather heavy clothing, BEING SHOT AT unexpectedly and sometimes killed while they are doing things like guarding a children's hospital!

Let's not ever forget the sacrifices that your young men and women in the armed forces have made and are continuing to make for us, either.

Sharon
:)

Re: Never forget

Dorothy on 7/30/03 at 12:03 (125671)

You are right that most of the people in the military are 'young men and women', but in this particular military in Iraq and Afghanistan, many are not so young. There have been several stories in the news recently about some of the soldiers who have been killed and three were in their fifties and at least one was a grandfather in his mid-fifties.

I read a most interesting article over the weekend about a scholar whose name is (I think) Jessica and last name is Stern. She is a lecturer at Harvard in their School of Public Policy (I will have to look up the specifics to be completely accurate in this citation...but this is pretty close for now...) She is studying the links between Al Quaeda and Hezbollah and other terrorist groups and the fact that they are protean and forming and re-forming all the time around the world. But the most interesting - and alarming - part of her information had to do with their growing and strengthening links with organized crime, particularly in India and Russia. Now India is especially fascinating because over the past ten years so many of America's service jobs have moved to India, but in the past approximately two years now the 'white collar' jobs started to trickle and now are flooding to India. Hewlett-Packard, Microsoft, and most of the other 'biggies' are just moving their corporations workings to (mostly) India. This includes financial service corporations, insurance companies, medical services, etc. X-rays that are taken at your local hospital are increasingly being read by professionals in India.
If you have any customer service dealings with Amazon or other companies, you already know that most of their CS work is done in India by Indians, but companies are also using Pakistan/Pakistanis and other nations of similar background/education/language knowledge. The latest issue of Time magazine has some material about this trend, but other publications have been writing about it in greater depth and with more information.