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Posted by nancy s. on 10/06/03 at 12:41 (132439)

today's newspaper announces the arrival in portland of the oxygen bar. at first glance i thought this was another expensive health-food-store item to munch on and then live forever. but no, it's an expensive place where you go to take in oxygen and get not only healthy but high! do people know about these, and do they do any good?

i had my gallbladder out in june, and i was given oxygen for much of the hospital stay, and i did feel high. but gee, maybe it was the morphine! or, even more likely, the knowledge that i'd never have to endure another 9 hours of agony with a gallstone attack.

but really, i thought the oxygen did feel good and wonder if there's anything to it.

nancy
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Re: oxygen bars

Peter R on 10/06/03 at 13:15 (132442)

Breathing oxygen is one of the failing of the carbon based species that inhabit the blue planet. Once it is all used up, we, the superior sulphur based species, will posses the Earth. Then we can put any post we want to on the social board without fear of being censored by Scott. Also we won't need any podiatrists because sulphur based structures like the plantar fascii are never subjet to any degradation.

Re: oxygen bars

Peter R on 10/06/03 at 13:17 (132443)

P.S.
Today I received my first shipment of medical marajuana- It is some good s**t.

Re: oxygen bars

Ed Davis, DPM on 10/06/03 at 13:37 (132446)

Peter:
But silicon based species don't need SDO's to cure their plantar fasciitis.
Ed

Re: recognizing addictive behavior as a disease, 12 step program

Phil C. on 10/06/03 at 14:42 (132458)

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Overcoming Liberalism: A 12-Step Program
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Posted on 02/14/2003 12:19 PM PST by jerhad

Several months ago, I heard radio host Michael Savage refer to liberalism as a 'mental disorder.' As odd as this concept might seem, I think I actually agree with him. I've seen liberalism turn some of the most intelligent people I know into propaganda-spewing robots who care only about the message, not the inaccuracies behind the message. Emotion always trumps logic for them, regardless of the blatantly obvious.

Given the difficulty in bringing liberals into the light, I thought it might be helpful to provide them with a 12-step program that could make it easier for a successful transition into reality. As conservatives, we have to remember that we can only be supportive to liberals in this program. They cannot do it alone, but we also cannot do it for them.

The Program:

Step 1: Admitting that you're a liberal

This is the first step for every liberal on the way to recovery. It is important to understand that you're not 'progressive', 'moderate', or 'enlightened'. You're a liberal, and you need to be honest with yourself about that fact.

Step 2: Pledge to support your beliefs with facts

Realize that truth is more important than moral superiority and is the only way to come over to reality. You must research beyond propaganda from the Sierra Club, Hillary Clinton, and CNN (the Communist News Network) to understand things as they really exist in the world. You can no longer argue based on 'feelings' or emotion. You will actually need to back up your arguments with real information. This is a difficult step, because it means you can't be lazy any more.

Step 3: Love America

This may be the most difficult step for those of you who are hippies and peaceniks. Admitting that the country you hate actually stands as a beacon to defend freedom throughout the world can make some of you physically ill. You might want to make a visit to a military cemetery to better understand that these men and women gave their lives so that you could spew hatred. Otherwise, you would currently be living in a police state that would never let you wear that nasty patchouli oil, let alone speak out against your government.

Step 4: Take a college level economics class

I've always defined a Socialist as someone who's never taken an economics class. Most Socialists I've spoke with would have a hard time balancing their checkbooks, let alone explaining the simple concept of supply-and-demand. It's time to flush your complete ignorance of basic economics down the toilet and understand how the world actually functions. This concept will be very important for the next steps that involve communism, facts about corporations, and the inefficiencies of government.

Step 5: Say 'no' to Communism and Socialism

While this concept is obvious to most of the free world, it is an important step in your recovery process. If you have difficulty with this step, spend a week living and working in Cuba.

Step 6: Corporations are not evil

If you're reading this article online or in an email, it's thanks to corporations. If you get some kind of paycheck, you can thank corporations. If you work for a non-profit or the government, you still have to thank corporations. The non-profit sector and the government wouldn't have any money to pay you without corporations. It is also important that you understand that making a profit doesn't equate to 'greed' or exploitation. Capitalism has created the greatest society in our world's history. Even communist countries need corporations to survive, so enjoy a nice, hot cup of reality.

Step 7: The government is inefficient

If you are one of those liberals who believe the government should tax us more in order to take care of society, you need to pay special attention to this step. You need to realize that government bureaucracy will waste most of your tax dollars, while the private sector will put your money to much better use. Even most Democrat politicians understand this to some degree, which is why Hillary's socialist healthcare proposal was voted down by a majority of both Democrats and Republicans. Go to your local post office or call the IRS to ask a tax question if you need a reminder about government inefficiency.

Step 8: The earth is not your 'mother', and she's not dying

The time has now come to stop your donations to Greenpeace, The Sierra Club, and every other EnviroNazi organization to which you belong. Face the reality that the earth, society and our environment are better off today than ever in recorded history and that they are continuing to improve. I realize that many of you tree huggers will have a very difficult time letting go of the Douglas Fir on this one. I would suggest reading The Skeptical Environmentalist by Bjorn Lomborg. Mr. Lomborg is a former member of Greenpeace and is currently a statistics professor at a university in Denmark. He set out to prove the world was in bad shape and ended up surprising himself by proving the exact opposite.

Step 9: Stop smoking the wacky tobaccy

Okay, some of you might need to enter another 12-step program to complete this step. Marijuana is distorting your sense of reality, and you need to stop using it. Besides, you'll save a fortune on snacks.

Step 10: Eat a hamburger

If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. You can put your sprouts and tofu on the hamburger, but get some meat into you. You'll look and feel better than you ever imagined. You can always remind yourself that Nazi propaganda hailed Adolf Hitler as a vegetarian to get you through this step.

Step 11: Stop re-writing political history

It's now time to admit that Bill Clinton is a lying-cheating-sexist-racist-rapist jackass, Hillary Clinton is one of the worst role models for women in this country, Al Gore really did lose the 2000 election by every vote tabulation you attempt, Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War and didn't create the homeless problem, John McCain is not a typical Republican, and Jimmy Carter is a nice man but has one of the worst presidential records of anyone in history.

Step 12: Be a missionary

Once you have completed the previous steps to overcoming liberalism, it's time for you to share this awakening with others who are not as fortunate. Go out amongst the liberal sheep and spread the good word of your freedom from the chains of ignorance that once bound you. Congratulations, and welcome to reality.

* see more at http://www.jerhad.com

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1 posted on 02/14/2003 12:19 PM PST by jerhad
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read later

2 posted on 02/14/2003 12:29 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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I came to the conclusion that liberalism is a mental illness about four years ago. This conclusion stems from reading a book on Attention Deficiet Disorder written by a NY neurologist. He wrote that how the brain functions is actually affected by what we think. If one constantly entertains depressing thoughts, the neuro-pathways in the person's brain will actually change, so how one's brain is wired is affected by the thoughts they think, and even brain chemistry is affected by thoughts we entertain, such that depressing thoughts can lead to chronic depression. I asked a friend of mine who received a Ph.D. in behavioral psychology from Stanford whether this is theory is accepted among practitioners, and she said, 'Yes, this type of theory of brain function is well-accepted and is frequently referred to in research journals.'

So, if what one thinks actually makes changes in one's brain chemistry and brain structure, then certainly liberalism, with its worldview of surrender of self-determination and dependence on government, chronic vicitimization mentality, and denial of absolute values, can lead to mental illness.

3 posted on 02/14/2003 12:32 PM PST by My2Cents ('...The bombing begins in 5 minutes.')
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Lots of people need help with the tragic disease called liberalism.

4 posted on 02/14/2003 4:15 PM PST by Capitalism2003
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To: jerhad

I definitely agree that liberalism is a form of mental illness. However, I also believe that liberalism is a sign of immaturity and 'arrested development'. I think that lots of people, myself included, tend towards liberalism (but the true classic liberalism...not what liberalism has become which is fascism) when we are young but as we grow and mature and take on more and more responsibilities, we acquire more common sense and hopefully more wisdom and we become more conservative with age. It really and truely frightens me when I see old 'liberals'. These people should really know better and its scary that they don't.

5 posted on 02/14/2003 4:22 PM PST by vikingcelt
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Have you ever noticed that liberals LOOK different from conservatives? There are some gray areas but in some cases you can just tell by looking at someone if they are liberals or conservatives.

6 posted on 02/14/2003 4:59 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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Step 13: Buy a handgun and learn how to use it.

7 posted on 02/14/2003 5:06 PM PST by glockmeister40
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Definitely a keeper, this one :-)

Thanks!

8 posted on 02/14/2003 10:30 PM PST by Tamsey (There are 10 types of people... those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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Save & BUMP!

9 posted on 02/14/2003 10:36 PM PST by JimRed
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bump

10 posted on 02/14/2003 10:46 PM PST by expatguy
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This is a Keeper!

Bravo Zulu and Best FReegards...Mustang sends.

11 posted on 02/15/2003 1:58 AM PST by Mustang
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To: jerhad

You know, when it sounds right, it is right. At least in my Constitutional world. In the liberal world the brain function changes that have occured due to years of faulty thought process stunt the interconnect between the ears and the brain. The scriptures talk about liberals when it tell us of those having eyes that cannot see, and ears that cannot hear. They are not talking about physical handicap, but a mental handicap brought about by just what your thread is focused on, and it has a drastic effect on a persons ability to deal in reality.

12 posted on 02/15/2003 3:53 AM PST by wita
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Ping for a later print

13 posted on 02/15/2003 5:11 AM PST by sauropod (It's OK to drive an SUV if it helps you get babes.....)
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Society bump!

14 posted on 02/15/2003 5:30 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society (Conservatives aren't perfect, we're just right.)
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It's true that liberals have a 'Certain Look' about them. But I have also found another sure way to identify Libs. Anyone driving one of those new Volkswagon Bugs is guilty! At one time, I actually started to believe that those cars were sold new with a Gore Lieberman sticker affixed to the rear bumper.

15 posted on 02/15/2003 6:23 AM PST by Desparado
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I have a friend who has a Bug. She's totally apolitical.

16 posted on 02/15/2003 6:31 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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Sadaam BAD, Bush GOOD.

17 posted on 02/15/2003 6:44 AM PST by DDDDaytonNot
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Just a little early morning brevity! Why, some of my best friends drive Volkswagons.

18 posted on 02/15/2003 7:13 AM PST by Desparado
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To: jerhad

Excellent! Great advice for liberals.

I have a suspicion that a couple of these steps can be eliminated or shortened by learning to trust the free market. That applies not only to economics, but also morality. Liberals I've talked to really look at most people -- at least most Americans -- as being very racist, sexist and homophobic, and they think that these flaws must be corrected through the courts.

If liberals could learn to trust people more and realize that people will best figure out how to handle their own money and how to get along with people different than them, they would soon jetison their liberal beliefs.

19 posted on 02/15/2003 7:34 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner (I have a photographic memory. I just don't have film.)
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Years ago my husband was a VW mechanic. Had many a VW bus at his place.

20 posted on 02/15/2003 11:27 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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' The scriptures talk about liberals when it tell us of those having eyes that cannot see, and ears that cannot hear.'

'There is a way which seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death.' - Proverbs 14:12 and Proverbs 16: 25

21 posted on 02/15/2003 7:29 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist
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Where would psychologists be without liberals? I'd bet if someone did a serious study to identify the political attitudes of mental patients, he would most likely find significantly more liberals than conservatives under treatment.

Liberals are nuts. They consistently deny reality instead of dealing with it. They blame others for their failings. They project onto others their devious ways. They lie and pretend. They're full of hate and envy. This type of behavior cannot be healthy.

22 posted on 02/15/2003 8:12 PM PST by spindoctor
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24 posted on 02/15/2003 9:18 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer (Liberate Iraq.)
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Re: disease process

Ed Davis, DPM on 10/06/03 at 15:06 (132461)

Phil:
Glad to see you are not discussing politics but a disease process.
Actually, several posters here and former posters are over at the FreeRepublic boards from time to time. I had seen this 12 step program before -- funny stuff.
Ed

Re: recognizing addictive behavior as a disease, 12 step program

Moderator on 10/06/03 at 15:19 (132464)

Phil, please be advised that the owner of Heelspurs.com has indicated that postings of a political nature are disallowed at Heelspurs.com.

Re: oxygen bars

Dorothy on 10/06/03 at 15:30 (132468)

I think it is pretty controversial from a health standpoint. Obviously, we need O2, but using it as people in these oxygen bars do may contribute to accelerated oxidation - and as you know, there is belief that ANTI-oxidants are important in human health.
It seems like a poor substitute for vigorous exercise and its friendly associates, sweating and heavy breathing.

Re: not a political post

Ed Davis, DPM on 10/06/03 at 15:34 (132469)

Phil:
I think your post was about a disease process, not politics.
Ed

Re: oxygen bars

John H on 10/06/03 at 15:38 (132472)

Flying above or near 40,000 feet you need 100% oxygen by pressure into your oxygen mask. I breathed 100% oxygen for many years and it sure gave me no high. There is a distinictve difference in what I perceived as almost a smell to pressure delivered 100% oxygen. Every three years we had to go through high altitude orientation. You would go into a altitude chamber and they would pump it down until you were at an altitude of 40,000 feet. You would then take your mask off as your partner and the instructors monitored you to see what your symptoms of hypoxia were. All people experience different symptoms. You might feel giddy, mean, have blue fingernails, feel warm or cold flashes, etc. As you were passing out your buddy would help you back on with your oxygen mask. At 40,000' you only have 10 or so seconds before you are unconcious. Where the problem comes is when you are oxygen deprived around 25,000 ft and do not realize it. It may take you 30 minutes to pass out and the symptoms may be so insidious you do not realize what is happening. I listened to a tape of two fighters that were crossing the Atlantic. One of the pilots apparently lost oxygen and started talking crazy. The other pilot kept trying to tell him to go to 100% oxygen. He even pulled up in formation with him and slowly followed him down from about 35,000' until he crashed into the sea. This was really horrofic to listen to as the pilot for nearly 15 minutes was screaming at his buddy trying to get him out of it but the last 15,000' they were descending fast and he did not have enough time to get enough oxygen to rgain conciousness. These oxygen bars have been around for a few years. This should make all you passengers thrilled but when I was a young pilot flying a DC-6 I would take a big suck of oxygen and then blow a flame all the way across the cockpit at the other pilot who might be in a daze on a long trans atlantic flight. That would wake him in a hurry. I was not a smoker. In the DC6 we had 4 bunks with curtins in the cockpit area as our flights could stretch out to 17-24 hours with refueling. Of course it gets boring up there. If you had a flight attendant or navigator sound asleep in the bunk and stick a fire extinuisher in there and fire it ithere is a big swoosh and emitts what looks like cold smoke. That makes for a fun night over the north Atlantic.
Passenger always loved it when we rountinely in the middle of the night came back into the cabing with a fashlight and started looking out over the wings and engines. This was a routine procedure but it sure scared the h--- out of many people. If one person in the back gets sick you can count on about half of the rest to follow. These are your aircrews at work people.

Re: oxygen bars

John H on 10/06/03 at 15:39 (132473)

Nancy : Did they use the scope to remove your gall bladder? If not why? If so how long was your recovery? I hear that is a tough recovery.

Re: oxygen bars

nancy s. on 10/06/03 at 15:48 (132479)

thanks, dorothy, that makes sense to me.

john, yes, they used the scope. but two of the four incisions had to be bigger than usual because the gallbladder was very infected (nearly ruptured), there were many many stones, and the stones were large. i was walking around a bit, but not painfree by any means, within a week. full recovery took 6 to 8 weeks -- in other words, the entire summer. you're right, it is a tough recovery, although i hear that people whose gallbladders are only marginal and don't have any complications during surgery recover in 2 to 3 weeks.

nancy
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Re: oxygen bars

Ed Davis, DPM on 10/06/03 at 15:50 (132480)

Dorothy:

A bit may depend on where one lives. Nancy did not say if it was Portland, Maine or Oregon but both places have fairly low pollution and good air. Now, Los Angeles could probably use a few oxygen booths.

Some have claimed that the oxygen content of our air is a bit lower than it was a couple of centuries ago. The negative effects of oxidation on our bodies, to the best of my knowledge, are not affected by the oxygen content of the air.
Ed

Re: oxygen bars

Peter R on 10/06/03 at 17:51 (132494)

To Dr. Ed, Sulphur based organisms are superior to Silicon based because unless the silicon is a very long chain the organism is quite inflexible and brittle. Also when sulphur based had intestional gas every body can enjoy it while the intestional eruptions of silicone base organisms are only enjoyed by those within hearing distance.

Re: recognizing addictive behavior as a disease, 12 step program

Ed Davis, DPM on 10/06/03 at 20:05 (132504)

By the way, Mr. or Ms. Moderator:
I counted about 4 to 5 posts on this page of a political nature-- are you going to 'warn' those posters too or only the conservative political posts?
Ed

Re: recognizing addictive behavior as a disease, 12 step program

Ed Davis, DPM on 10/06/03 at 20:08 (132507)

Okay, Mr. or Ms. Moderator:
You have redeemed yourself by your actions above.
Ed

Re: oxygen bars

wendyn on 10/07/03 at 07:20 (132561)

Nancy - we have had one in our airport for at least a few years.

Never tried it myself - but it sure looks interesting to walk by!!

Re: oxygen bars

nancy s. on 10/07/03 at 07:47 (132562)

ok, wendy, i'll make you a deal: you go to the airport and try out a raspberry oxygen whiff or whichever flavor you want. and i'll read your report on it.

wouldn't it be nice for you to visit the airport but not have to fly anywhere?

nancy
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