Captain Kangaroo died...Posted by Suzanne D. on 1/23/04 at 17:08 (142748)
I just read that Captain Kangaroo, Bob Keeshan, died today at 76. He entertained and taught children on t.v. for more than 30 years. I remember that the few times I missed school as a child, I ate chicken noodle soup and watched Captain Kangaroo. He always made the day better.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...SteveG on 1/23/04 at 17:20 (142749)
Ya - I remember sneaking down stairs early on Saturday morning to watch his show. For some reason he was on pretty early her in the northwest - 7:00 - 8:00. At bit later my sister and I would watch a sci-fi puppet show called, I think, Fireball XL-5? Something I saw on TV made the other day made me think of that show. As you say, the Captain always made the day go better.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Ron B on 1/23/04 at 17:51 (142750)
Yep the Captain was a great old guy. Steve, was he on that early here in Seattle? I know I watched him every week. Ya won't catch me up at 8:00am on a Saturday now days!!!! then Stan Borson (sp on that?) with his dog No-Mo in the afternoon. Being a kid was great. No PF then just PF Flyers (tennis shoes) those were the days. Todays kids show are so Violent.My kids didn't get to watch much of that stuff.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...edgar on 1/23/04 at 18:14 (142755)
is green jeans dead?
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Ron B on 1/23/04 at 18:27 (142756)
Man, I forgot all about Green Jeans! He was Captain K's side-kick. He wasn't a big enough name,so if he did die I don't think it would have made the news
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...John H on 1/23/04 at 18:44 (142757)
I do think Mr. Green Jeans died some years ago.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...marie on 1/23/04 at 20:53 (142764)
Ah...the world just won't be the same...first Mr. Green jeans and now Captain Kangaroo.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Carole C in NOLA on 1/24/04 at 07:24 (142772)
Oh no! I didn't watch Captain Kangaroo, but I know he was important to a lot of kids.
'I grow old, I grow old, I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled', said T.S. Eliot. Maybe I won't do that, but time just keeps sliding away.
It hasn't been that long since Mister Rogers died, too. My daughter used to love watching his show, and I think he was a good 'father figure' for her since her father was away at sea so much. He was gentle and caring in an era when men were supposed to be hard and tough. I am glad that I can still see Mister Rogers on re-runs, and I saw a biography of him on A&E a while back.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Richard, C.Ped on 1/24/04 at 09:49 (142776)
I too was one that watched the Captain while eating chicken noodle soup..and even a PB & J every now and then. The radio stations have been playing the theme music...man...does that bring back memories!!!
BTW: Mr. Green Jeans (Hugh 'Lumpy' Brannum) died April 19, 1987.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Kathy G on 1/24/04 at 10:50 (142778)
I remember that my mother used to braid my hair while I watched Captain Kangaroo before school. He was on pretty early in NE, too. I loved him. I was so disappointed that neither of my children liked him but they were comparing him to Sesame Street so I'm sure Bunny Rabbit, Grandfather Clock and Mr. Moose didn't measure up! Funny though, they liked Mr. Rogers and he had that same gentleness about him.
I liked the fact that he remained active in children television issues after his retirement and tried to combat the violence in children's programming. In later years, his show was canceled by network television and picked up by PBS.
My favorite Captain Kangaroo guest was a glassblower he had on several times. To this day, I am fascinated by glassblowers and it all goes back to the Captain.
He was a good man. And you're right, we are getting old!! But better!!!:D
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Sher A on 1/24/04 at 11:15 (142779)
I too, loved Captain Kangaroo. I especially remember Tom Terriffic on his show because I could interact with that. My parents got me a sheet of plastic like stuff that I would stick over the tv screen, and a special crayon. On that we could draw things that would help Tom Terrific. I remember he was stuck on a cliff or someplace and I drew a line from the top of the cliff to the ground and it showed Tom slowly descending down it to safety. I thought that was so cool! Those were wonderful days.
Re: Did anyone watch Mr. Cartoon?Kathy in Ky on 1/25/04 at 19:58 (142839)
I grew up in Eastern Ky & we only received the Huntington & Charleston West Virginia tv stations. I can remember watching Mr. Cartoon every day afterschool (on our black & white tv) I can't remember his female sidekick's name but remember he was also the evening weatherman. Did anyone watch the show?
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Rick R on 1/26/04 at 07:32 (142852)
Suzanne & the other Kids,
We in Chicago got a one two punch. Ray Raynor also died last week. He did more to raise the kids in my generation than a lot of parents.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Kathy G on 1/26/04 at 08:48 (142854)
Since I lived up north, I never saw Mr. Cartoon. And Rick, who was Ray Raynor?
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Rick R on 1/26/04 at 09:36 (142862)
Ray Raynor was a Chicago and WGN Icon. He hosted a 7:00AM children's show with cartoons a duck that chased him around named Chelviston. He also was a clown on Bozo. He started as a weather man 'Raynor Shine' back in the early 60's. He was doing weather in Albuquerque NM not too long ago. I was unaware until the talk radio buzz in town after his death that he had been a Pilot in WWII. He was shot down in France and taken to Stalag Luft III. This is the site of the 'Great Escape' and supposedly he was one of the architecs or the real escape. This was never to my knowledge discussed or in any way used to 'market' the man. Different times I suppose.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Kathy G on 1/27/04 at 08:36 (142942)
Interesting. I love the play on words, 'Raynor shine.' You're right. They were different times. And I must be getting old but I think they were so much better.
Television in general is rather disturbing right now. All these reality shows.... I guess I'm in the minority but I just can't get into them. I loved Boomtown and that went off the air. Now I understand American Dreams, another of my favorites, is in trouble. I also really enjoy 'Without a Trace.' The star just won a Golden Globe so maybe it's safe from cancellation, as long as the networks don't find out I like it!
Okay, none of that had anything to do with Captain Kangaroo but I'm going to post it anyhow!!
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Suzanne D. on 1/27/04 at 10:47 (142954)
I'm glad you posted that, Kathy, because I had begun to think I was the only one in the country who doesn't like the reality t.v. shows.
Of course I'm considerably 'behind' because I still like the Walton's and Andy Griffith and such. :)
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Carole C in NOLA on 1/27/04 at 13:06 (142959)
Most of the reality TV shows should really be called 'unreality' shows! The people seem so fake and shallow and made up.
People like the Waltons and Andy Griffith seem much more 'real' to me than reality TV.
I have a friend at work who is so dear... he's 72, has been happily married for 50 years, and a devout Catholic who devotes his spare time tirelessly to doing charitable things in semi-secrecy. He doesn't want to do these things for glory or credit, so that's why he doesn't like to tell anyone about them. He does them for religious reasons, not for personal reasons of ego. But I know him well, so I have seen him finding interim homes for families with no job when they are evicted, and I have seen him finding immediate medical care for the indigent who have slipped through the cracks, and so on. Not only does he help strangers, but he also loves and takes care of his whole family, enjoys his grandchildren, and tells fascinating stories about life in New Orleans many years ago. And he's a good cook and works a 40 hour week like the rest of us despite terrible pain from arthritis that he seldom mentions.
Now why don't they make a REAL reality TV show about someone like him? He doesn't look like a refugee from Baywatch, so I suppose that is why.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Pauline on 1/27/04 at 14:40 (142966)
It's because they can't make money on something that's not smut. People have and continue to lower their standards on what they consider 'acceptable' so we are seeing the results plastered all over TV.
What's discerning to me is the exploitation of our young women. They are more than willing to strip naked for anyone anytime. They don't have to be asked twice. We don't see young men on TV doing this nor do we see them encouraged to do so, but there are no limits set for young women today either by themselves or by others.
It's appears to me that young women have lost all self respect for themselves. I have to admire the one woman on 'The Model' who said no to posing nude. She was asked to leave the show, but should we have expected anything else from the judges.
There was no reason, why the young women on that program had to strip naked, have their bodies painted by men, and then pose with young naked boys lying beneath them. Smut from the get go, but it sold ratings.
Personally I think we need to boycott the sponsors of that program and all others that strip young women of their dignity.
How many more shows will applaud young girls who have babies and don't know who the father is? Most of these young women are women of color, yet not one U.S. congress woman cries out enought is enough and insist that money not be made at the expense of these 'children' in women's bodies.
These shows make a mockery out of a very sad state of affairs in America today. Babies having babies who can't support a child and who will probably never even achieve a high school education.
We are in the middle of a generation of young women who have come to accept this type of behavor as 'normal'. It's all they know and expect out of life. The producers of these programs are more than willing to jump in there and make money from their ignorance and the public is right there to cheer them on. Go Morey, Go Ricky, Go Smut TV.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Carole C in NOLA on 1/27/04 at 15:13 (142967)
Wow, Pauline, I missed seeing that show ('The Model')! Doesn't sound like I missed much. Actually it sounds awful.
I'd much rather see someone I can respect and admire on TV, who makes me feel good about humanity and makes me smile.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Sher A on 1/27/04 at 19:19 (142992)
Rick, I hope it stops with number 3. Jack Paar also died; it's so sad. Kathy, I haven't heard of Mr. Cartoon either. Heck, here, we never even got to watch Foghorn Leghorn. Carole, you're right about people being so made up they don't even look real. We were talking about that the other day. Some have whitened their teeth to the point where they could light the way in the dark. And we think that most people on tv are starting to look just like porcelain dolls. I can understand makeup, but when it looks like every part of a person is either surgically altered or under a foot of makeup it just detracts from everything.
Speaking of shows and all the garbage and violence, etc. wouldn't it be nice if they just made one show that didn't feature sex, cursing, or violence, and that was on an adult level? We actually watched a wonderful movie on tv last Saturday, 'Six Days and Seven Nights' with Harrison Ford. My husband and I loved the movie, the scenery was incredible (the south Pacific) and the photography was absolutely breathtaking. Even the actual story was good we thought. Our tv guide in the Sunday paper gave it 2 stars!! 2 stars?? I would have given it 5. We just stay away from 5 star movies, because they seem to go back to the 3 necessary things that are required to make money these days. I'll take a 2 star show any day!
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Rick R on 1/27/04 at 21:54 (143007)
Isn't this a bizzare age where we can have alleged music calling for abuse of women and all sorts of other vulger obscene garbage yet at the same point in time and space we have to avoid saying anything in the least that might be construed as offensive in certian circumstances. Frankly I'm offended by the aformentioned but that isn't important.
Rick, feeling more like a geezer every day!
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...wendyn on 1/27/04 at 23:12 (143011)
I agree. Give me a movie like Finding Nemo, or Pirates of the Carribean any day (no I can't spell tonight).
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...john h on 1/28/04 at 10:49 (143045)
Just watched Pirates of The Carribean last night on a DVD. Anyone care to swap DVD's for a week at a time? My collection is growing. I have a lot of good historical DVD's put out by PBS or National Geographic such as 'The Greeks', 'Winged Migration' this is outstanding, 'Islam' and of course war movies which my wife will not watch.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...john h on 1/28/04 at 10:57 (143048)
Then you would love to see me on TV Carole.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...john h on 1/28/04 at 11:03 (143049)
The former Navy Seal on Survivor is 74 years old. He is sort of for real. I did watch the original Survivor series but after that everyone seemed to be more of actors playing a part. To many of these reality show for me. Some of the dumb or dumber are the ones like The Bachelor or Bachelorette. Joe Millionaire,etc. Who watches these deals (sorry hope i did not offend anyone like BG).I would guess some including my wife would not like my taste in action/adventure movies.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Pauline on 1/28/04 at 12:31 (143058)
I think you and I could write better scripts. When Survivor women volunteered to bare their breasts for a pasta dinner I turned the show off.
Maybe these shows are reality shows because they certainly show the extent of tasteless, shallow programming now required to entertain the multitudes. It apparently doesn't take much.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Kathy G on 1/28/04 at 15:07 (143081)
It's rather interesting that when the first Survivor show came on, my daughter said that her Sociology professors were all watching it. I have no idea if they continued as all these other crazy shows appeared. One of the professors was a published PHD and head of the department!
I've never watched any of them so I can't comment on them as far as their treatment of women, but I do have the same concerns that Pauline and Carole (I think) voiced about the way that women are allowing themselves to be treated.
When MTV was new, my son was in middle school. I didn't forbid it because I don't think it's right to make your child 'different' at an age when the slightest difference is magnified hundred fold. I did watch some of the videos with him and casually point out how disrespectful of women they were. Luckily, we had strict rules about not watching TV during the day and he was too busy to spend much of his time watching it at night. I think he must have gotten the message. According to his wife, he has great respect for women and is a believer in equality so his views weren't warped by these terrible music videos. What I worry about is the children of that age, male and female, who watch these on a regular basis with no adult supervision. They are going to come away with a terrible view of how women should be treated.
John, we have a DVD player we hardly ever use. We have one of those machines, and it was legal at the time we bought it, that will copy a VHS tape. On bargain day, I go to the local video store and stock up on videos to copy and thus we have a great library of videos.
We also frequently tape programs that we want to watch and watch them on tape so that we can fast forward through all the commercials. It's the way television was meant to be watched!
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Pauline on 1/28/04 at 15:39 (143091)
Isn't it interesting how society watches with careful eye how men treat women, but could care less how women treat or respect themselves.
We never see young men lined up in G. strings on perverted TV programs being degraded, felt up by female guests and told they are too fat, but young women flock to these programs hoping to become a star.
Re: girls respecting themselves...Suzanne D. on 1/28/04 at 17:04 (143111)
Pauline, it particularly pains me to watch little girls I have taught and who were quite intelligent seem to 'dumb down' when they get in middle or high school. It's cool to excell in sports, but unfortunately, it's still not particularly cool to be a smart girl and excell in advanced placement calculus, or so my daughter tells me. If you're smart AND out-going or great in sports, it's o.k., but if you're quiet and smart, then you're looked at as a nerd. Or that's how she feels.
At some point so many girls cease to care about being the best they can be and care more about receiving attention - at whatever price.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Carole C in NOLA on 1/28/04 at 19:37 (143120)
Yes, I would! You'd have to promise to do something to make me smile, though. :)
Re: girls respecting themselves...Kathy G on 1/28/04 at 19:47 (143121)
Oh, what you say is so true, Suzanne! Even boys don't want to appear to be too smart, although as you say, if they're athletic, it's all right. But for a girl to be smart is really tough. I had a couple of friends in high school who were really nice girls but they were brilliant - and shy. They never got dates! One of them was actually beautiful and I don't use that word to describe many people. Luckily, once they both got to college, it was more acceptable to be female and brilliant and with maturity, they came into their own.
Alas, this was never a problem for me!!
So tell your daughter not to worry; it will get better. When it will change, I don't know. It seems no matter how hard we try to instill the idea that it's all right to be smart, peer pressure gets to even the smartest girls. It's very sad.
I used to think that teenaged girls didn't really want to be like Madonna, in the old days, or Britney Spears these days, but my daughter says I'm wrong. They really do emulate them. I find it frightening and wonder when it will end and true equality will begin.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Carole C in NOLA on 1/28/04 at 19:51 (143122)
I do think that if a mature adult woman wants to strip, it's not my problem. She can go ahead, for all I care, and I can change the channel. My complaint is the fact that Hollywood seems to think that a steady diet of shallow sexual or (even worse) violent content on most new shows during primetime, network TV. So, there's not much else to change the channel TO.
It would be fun if there was a new, highly advertised show that everyone wanted to see, on prime time, that didn't have to rely on sex or violence for an audience. I suppose that would take work.
Thank goodness for Home and Garden TV. LOL
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...JudyS on 1/28/04 at 20:39 (143130)
Kathy - because my sons insisted that DVD movies are THEE way to watch movies these days, I bought a combination DVD/VHS player. While I've rented several DVD's in the last few months, I honestly can't notice a difference in quality and......too many of the DVD's I rent have some sort of defect right in the middle of the movie so we can't finish seeing it! Not to mention the fact that it isn't all that easy to get back to a scene you were watching if you stop the DVD.
I'm not one to purchase/stockpile movies in any form so I guess I'll stick with the good old VHS for as long as I can! BTW - I like to tape movies off of the television also..
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...JudyS on 1/28/04 at 20:43 (143131)
Perhaps, Pauline, this is because sex sells. And, as long as there are young men, and as long as demographics indicate that younger people are the primary group watching TV, sex will always sell.
Why do the girls participate? Now there's a question for the ages! Especially given all the work their mothers and even grandmothers have gone through to attain dignity and respect instead of exploitation.
Maybe they participate because so many kinds of media continue to tell them that they absolutely must be beautiful and sexually appealing no matter the cost.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...JudyS on 1/28/04 at 20:52 (143132)
Oh gosh Carole - I've only just discovered HGTV! And to think I just finished a remodel! :) What fun that network is.
Speaking of the good old days of television, it seems like only about seven or eight years ago I could rely on finding at least one program an evening that the whole family liked (and the kids were allowed to watch) - but now I find very close to nothing entertaining on network TV on any night - except,of course, JAG on Fridays and the occasional, yet bloody, CSI. The rest of it is pure pap and I find myself feeling insulted by it.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Carole C in NOLA on 1/28/04 at 22:48 (143141)
I'll have to watch JAG! I haven't seen it.
You know what show I really love on Friday night? Joan of Arcadia, and I'm not even religious. But it fits my requirements for a good TV show. It doesn't rely on sex or violence to draw an audience, and it actually seems based on ('gasp!') the concepts of good and evil, of right and wrong. I watch it every week and I really like it a lot.
CSI is too high stress and bloody for me. I just don't like it. lol
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Carole C in NOLA on 1/28/04 at 22:56 (143143)
I have a VHS player, as well as a DVD player. But I suspect the VHS player is going to become obsolete in the next five years. DVD drives that record are coming down in price and when they get low enough for the average household to get one for their TV, I think VHS will be gone with the wind.
But then, I thought I was going to get a big tax refund this year too, and so far it doesn't look like it. I'll know more when I get my W-2. :)
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...john h on 1/29/04 at 10:54 (143174)
The high defintion channels on Direct TV are awsome in particular Discovery. You have to subscribe to this package. I would guess in 5 years or less that VCR's will be history. Currently recordable DVD's are in the range of $400. The quality of a DVD played on an HDTV ready TV is very much the quality of HD (that is if it was a good recording). Back when VCR's first came out I guessed wrong and went with Beta which was the better quality recording mode but in the end Beta lost out to our current VCR's. When I was in high school we had Wire Recorders which had spools of wire rather than tape to record voice/music on.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...john h on 1/29/04 at 11:00 (143176)
Judy I must send you some of my old glasses so you can see the real quality of DVD's. There are a lot of pirated DVD's out there that are even worse than a VCR but the good quality DVD is like a fine wine. Your sons are in touch with what is happening. Knowing your are somewhat a techno geek you need to get with the program girl.The DVD to be appreciated must be played on a TV that can do what the latest TV's do. They scan twice as fast and have many more filters.
your geek buddy in arkansaas---
Re: girls respecting themselves...john h on 1/29/04 at 11:38 (143181)
The girls I dated in high school were very smart. Sure a lot smarter than me. Most ended up going to Smith,Radcliffe or some of the snooty colleges in the east.When I was stationed on Cape Cod I would vist some of my high schoold friends at Smith and Wellsley. It was sure fun to be a young Lt bachelor on these campus. Are these schools co-ed now??? I think I found out even in high school that the smart girls were not just smart but fun to be with. I do not think I could ever put a tie in between being smart and pretty or smart and not so pretty. It could go either way. I spent to much time playing sports without a doubt.
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...JudyS on 1/29/04 at 17:14 (143202)
My dearest geek buddy,
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...JudyS on 1/29/04 at 17:16 (143203)
oops, what happened? This was supposed to be in there, geek buddy..
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...JudyS on 1/29/04 at 17:18 (143205)
it didn't work again, (it was that little guy sticking his tongue out...) let's try this one for experimental purposes - @};-
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Carole C in NOLA on 1/29/04 at 18:14 (143207)
Like this? :p
Testing, testing, 1,2,3,4... :p :p :p :p
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Kathy G on 1/30/04 at 09:48 (143238)
I agree, Judy. I just don't see that much difference. I do admit the clarity is better but it's just not that important to me.
Carole, I only watched Joan of Arcadia once and I didn't care for it but i should try it again. It's a big hit. Have any of you watched American Dreams? It's about a family in Philadelphia and it takes place in the early sixties. It's really excellent. The main character is a girl who dances as a regular on bandstand but it's an ensemble cast and her whole family is involved. It's on at 8PM on Sundays and that's a problem because it often gets pre-empted because of football or golf running late.
My daughter and her college friends all follow the show and so do many friends my age. To me, a show that transcends the ages is a good show. No sex or violence in it and some pretty good music to bring back happy, and maybe some not-so-happy, memories of growing up in the sixties 'When the times, they were a changin'.'
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...Carole C in NOLA on 1/30/04 at 11:45 (143254)
No, I haven't seen American Dreams. I'll check and find out if we have it here. Thanks for the tip!
Re: Captain Kangaroo died...JudyS on 1/31/04 at 15:33 (143333)
Yes! Like that, Carole! I wonder what I've done wrong? I'm trying again...........:p :P