NEW JERSEY :-$Posted by MARK L on 2/23/04 at 06:38 (145070)
Nobody listed CRANBERRIES as a significant NJ product
But with all the nice stuff NJ has:
* Beaches that are sporatically closed due to medical waste washing onshore
* Terrible air polution in the industrial corridor along the NJ Tpke near the northern end
* Rush hour and summer weekend traffic on the highways that make travelling less than fun
* Limited access highways that make simple things like trying to go in the opposite direction a choir that challenges all but experts in dead reckoning navigation
* Policitcal structure that is less than honest ( ie: Vito the Torch)
* Too many giant malls
* NJ stole the Statue of Liberty from NY but NY sent them the Jets
* Bus drivers on the Garden Stae Parkway headed to Atlantic City driving like only they belong on the road
* Atlantic City- hookers-gamblers-poor residents that the gambling industry did not help at all
* Finally- simply in the way if you live in the NE and want to drive to Disney Land
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$MARK L on 2/23/04 at 06:40 (145071)
Please ignore the :-$ in the article title- I tried to enter a graphic
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$Kathy G on 2/23/04 at 09:03 (145082)
I can tell you just love New Jersey! I have to admit that my daugher-in-law says that there's no way in the world she'd move back there. Her parents moved to Florida as soon as her three-year-younger sister graduated from college. They couldn't wait to get away. I'm trying to think of something positive she's told me about the state but I can't think of anything!
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$Dorothy on 2/23/04 at 09:54 (145087)
Isn't it also famous for a huge natural setting called 'The Pines' - or something like that?
It's very sad that any area with so much natural beauty and richness has been so desecrated, but it makes the dedication of the environmental workers who see behind and beyond 'chemical soup' to a healthier possibility all the more admirable.
I didn't know about cranberries and New Jersey, thinking only of Massachusetts and Wisconsin. Loving cranberries and blueberries, I'll say a word of thanks to New Jersey and hope that neither Vinny nor Vito nor Monsanto or Dow have their fingers in the cranberry trade.
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$Richard, C.Ped on 2/23/04 at 13:16 (145097)
I had the opportunity to meet Dr.Z October of 2001. I thought Woodbury was an extremely nice town from what I saw. The only thing I did not like was not being able to pump my own gas. Weird.
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$Ed Davis, DPM on 2/23/04 at 13:45 (145100)
That is why I left New Jersey. Nevertheless, it has its good points. It took an amazingly long time for casino gambling to benefit the population of the Atlantic City area as a whole. I left NJ about 29 years ago -- I think gambling was legalized about 31 years ago (I would need to research that to be sure).
I visited my mom and aunt who still live there during the Christmas holiday and finally, after several decades, one can see tangible benefits to all. Why it took so long -- I have no idea. Salaries and benefits at the casinos are good, much of the ghetto has been replaced with much nicer housing. Gambling just isn't my thing and the casino environment with all the glitz and glamour is something I grow tired or looking at after about 2 to 3 days. I wish there was a better way to have improved things. Las Vegas is booming and building like crazy -- an endless supply of cash that I think many agree could be spent on better things.
PS The beaches used to have medical waste because the waste disposal industry in NJ was controlled by the mob. That problem has been remedied -- I think.
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$Pauline on 2/23/04 at 13:48 (145102)
Now that's what I call primitive, nice option, but primitive.
Re: PinesEd Davis, DPM on 2/23/04 at 13:48 (145103)
I am not sure how much of that area is left. It was considered a remote area where 'hillbilly-like' people called 'Pineys' lived. It is also where the legend of the Jersey Devil got started. Jersey Devil is a version of what we call Sasquatch (big foot) in the Northwest.
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$Ed Davis, DPM on 2/23/04 at 13:50 (145104)
NJ did not allow self-service gas stations for a long time. I noted, upon returning that a number of gas stations had both self-service and 'full-service' lanes. We only have self-service in the NW.
Re: ps to Dr. Z:Ed Davis, DPM on 2/23/04 at 13:58 (145107)
According to one of my cousins who became a rabbi and a dentist and moved to Israel, even the Kosher meat industry in NJ was controlled by the mob.
Traditionally, the Philly division (Philip 'Chicken Man' Testa) controlled Atlantic City. Eventually, as Atlantic City became more valuable, the New York division fought with the Philly group for a piece of the action.
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$Ed Davis, DPM on 2/23/04 at 14:02 (145108)
Mark's criticisms of the state are not innaccurate. One just has to realize that it is a densely populated and diverse state with a lot of subcultures. One's impression will be formed largely by the locale lived in or visited. Some areas are beautiful, some areas could have been used to film a 'Mad Max' movie.
Re: TO : Kathy Re: NEW JERSEYMARK L on 2/23/04 at 17:34 (145119)
Please be specific as to which of my statements about NJ you claim are inaccurate?
Re: TO : Kathy Re: NEW JERSEYEd Davis, DPM on 2/23/04 at 22:55 (145143)
You may have misread ... I stated that your statements are NOT innaccurate. Nevertheless, you emphasized the negative without listing the positive atributes of the state.
Re: TO : Kathy Re: NEW JERSEYEd Davis, DPM on 2/23/04 at 22:59 (145145)
Here are a couple of issues I would not agree with you on:
1)New Jersey has an excellent highway system. If you want to see horrible highways come to Washington or even California. It is a densely populated state with conjestion.
2)New Jersey stole the Statue of Liberty from NY????? You will need to provide some details on that one.
Re: New Jersey Attn: Dr DavisMARK L on 2/24/04 at 06:55 (145165)
I didn't say that NJ had the worst road system in the USA- I agree that driving in Ca. is the pits but that doesn't lessen the facts I stated about NJ roads.
If I wish to state my negative feelings about something on this board am I obligated by the powers that be to counteract those negative statements by compensating positive statements?
Re: New Jersey Attn: Dr Davis -Statue of LibertyMARK L on 2/24/04 at 07:03 (145166)
Liberty Island, which is in NY harbor, not New Jersey harbor, has been claimed by New Jersey as being situated within NJ state boundries. I was under the impression that it belonged to the people of the USA.
OK, there is a positive about NJ, they have Jimmy Hoffa.
Re: ps to Dr. Z:Dr. Z on 2/24/04 at 17:15 (145229)
I learn something new everyday.
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$john h on 2/25/04 at 11:12 (145309)
What I noticed in New Jersey was that most of the small gas sttions were owned by people from the Middle East. Why is that? Same thing is happening with small motels around the country..
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$john h on 2/25/04 at 11:17 (145310)
My daughter was born in Mt Holly, N.J. It took us years to have her lose that Jersey accent and revert to her Southen heritage. In the early 60's I was driving through Mississippi with Jersey tags on my car. When stopping to gas in the small towns I really got questioned about what I was doing there.
Re: New Jersey Attn: Dr Davis -Statue of LibertyEd Davis, DPM on 2/25/04 at 11:29 (145313)
How do you know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried? ;)
Re: New Jersey Attn: Dr DavisEd Davis, DPM on 2/25/04 at 11:32 (145314)
I have lived in six states in my lifetime.I have driven across country several times. New Jersey had the best road of any state I have lived in or driven through. Certainly, there are more fun places to drive like historic route 66, etc.
Re: New Jersey Attn: Dr Davis -Statue of LibertyEd Davis, DPM on 2/25/04 at 11:37 (145317)
No one ever argued that it does not belong to the people of the USA. The land its sits on must within SOME state's jurisdiction. Who cares which state it is?
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$Pauline on 2/25/04 at 12:02 (145321)
Were you sporting a ragged beard and ponytail, with your rifle pointed out the window at the time?
Re: NEW JERSEY :-$MARK L on 2/27/04 at 07:45 (145498)
Dr Davis- You don't wanna know how I know cause if you knew I'de have to kiss you and then tell you 'it's not personal Dr. D, it's just business' :D
Actually Jimmy is not in New Jersey- he's working, in disguise, in a Wal-Mart in Pig Hollow, Ky. with Elvis and Judge Crater. Actually I hope my ex wife gets a job there also and soon.