Home The Book Dr Articles Products Message Boards Journal Articles Search Our Surveys Surgery ESWT Dr Messages Find Good Drs video


Posted by john h on 5/25/04 at 10:45 (151185)

I hope i have his last name correct but on Oreilly and The Factor last night he was interviewing Montell Williams the host of a TV talk show. Montell was explaining the almost 24/7 pain he experiences in both legs from his knees to the tip of his toes. He had been to experts all over the nation and was very knowledgeable about medications. He has been prescribed all the high powered narcotics but said they merely took the edge off of his pain. He said his problem was 'apparently' a peripheral nerve problem. In some states apparently marajuna is a prescribed medication and can be delivered by pill or even spray (did not know this). He said that canabus (marajuna) was one thing that did significantly reduce his pain but as he lives in N.Y. where it is illegal so he openly said he gets it from other states. He said smoking it was more effective for him than the pill and he had not tried the spray. Oreilly agreed with him that it should be made available to pain patients along with some other disapproved forms of treatment. Montell was a sharp guy and well spoken and clearly was not just looking for a high.

Re: Montell

Pauline on 5/25/04 at 11:05 (151193)

There is a huge legal battle going on in the states right now to make Marajuna legal for medical purposes. It appears to work to control pain very well.

I have a nephew who is an attorney who is also a physician who has joined the cause with several others currently defending, for free, people that are arrested or sujected to large fines for using marajuna for medical purpose and have secured it legally in the states that approved its use.

What is interesting is that while some states have approved it's use the Federal Government has not and that's where and how the patients are being targeted. The Federal Government is bring them up on charges along with the growers who have been given permission to dispense the drug.

There is a web site for this movement. I don't know it off hand.

My nephew travels between the states to help these patients and from conversations with him I personally think the U.S. is behind time in treating patients with Marajuna.

Canada already does it and many, many patients are helped by this drug.

Not only can it be delivered in pill form or spray but it can also be used in a vaporizor.

Re: Montell

Pauline on 5/25/04 at 11:22 (151196)

I should add that Montell is lucky because he is a celeberity and therefore gets special treatment. He was stopped at the Detroit airport for possession as he went through security a while back. It made the Det. papers. I think he was just connecting through Detroit. In any case, he was smacked on the hands and allowed to get on the plane to L.A.

You can bet the little guy in back of him doing the same thing was arrested. I'm speaking now of using the drug for medical purpose.

Re: Latest information, from the AP

BrianG on 5/25/04 at 12:41 (151203)

This article is only one day old, and appears to be relevant to this thread............BrianG

Cut & Pasted:

Woman has led fight for medical marijuana to a new high
- MARTHA MENDOZA, AP National Writer
Monday, May 24, 2004
(05-24) 00:16 PDT SANTA CRUZ, Calif. (AP) --

What do you do when you sue U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft and win? Fifty-one-year-old Valerie Corral, a sinewy 5-foot tall great-granddaughter of Italian immigrants, throws back her head laughing, her hands reaching to the clouds, hips wiggling, feet stomping.
'It's my happy dance!' she says, throwing her arms around her husband Mike.
She has also planted an acre of marijuana.
The decision that lets the crop remain is just one round in a long legal battle.

Last month, a federal judge in San Jose issued a preliminary injunction banning the Justice Department, including the Drug Enforcement Administration, from interfering with the Corrals' pot garden, set above an ocean bluff near Davenport, about an hour south of San Francisco. The injunction gives the judge time to reconsider his earlier decision to allow the garden to be uprooted.
Still, the Corrals call the injunction a victory.
They share their harvest through the first legally recognized, nonprofit medical marijuana club in America, which they founded in 1993. The club has about 250 seriously ill members who have prescriptions from their doctors to use marijuana to alleviate their suffering, increase their appetites and control their seizures. The marijuana is free.

The San Jose ruling is one of a number challenging federal restrictions on medical marijuana, which has consistently won support in national opinion polls since 1995 but has had a mixed record in state ballot measures.
This summer, the U.S. Supreme Court is expected to decide whether to hear another case that could undo or affirm the Corrals' right to grow pot -- granted by state and local regulations, but denied by federal law. A second case in federal court in San Francisco -- in which other medicinal-use growers seek to reclaim seized marijuana -- could also affect the couple.
The Justice Department refused comment.
For now, the Corrals are the only people in the United States growing marijuana in their backyard backed by state law, a local ordinance and a federal judge's injunction. And Valerie Corral has become a heroine to proponents of medical marijuana.

'This could be the moment of the beginning of the end of this insane war against the sick,' said Bruce Mirken of the Washington D.C.-based advocacy group Marijuana Policy Project. 'And while the DEA and the Justice Department characterize Valerie as a common drug dealer, all you have to do is spend two minutes with her to know that's a lie.'
During the past three decades, while sharing marijuana with sick people, Corral has watched -- and in many cases held -- 140 friends, ranging in age from 7 to 96, as they died of cancer, AIDS and other illnesses.
'It is the greatest honor to be asked by a person who is dying to sit with them,' she said.
Reflection on those deaths has given her strength, she said -- while battling the government, when federal agents pointed a rifle at her head, and when her motives have been called into question.
'John Ashcroft is not someone I would have chosen to tangle with,but I think of him, and George Bush, as lost souls,' she said. 'When I look at them, I think about how they are just people, ... and that makes them less fearsome. Ultimately we all make the same journey, and ultimately I hope they make theirs in peace.'

In fact, Corral's compassion is grudgingly respected at the DEA's San Francisco office.
'I'm personally impressed with her desire to help deathly ill people,' said spokesman Richard Meyer. 'It's just that she makes it look like the way to help sick and dying people is to give them marijuana. And that's not the case.
'There's hundreds of ways to help these people. The DEA has a lot of compassion for those people who are sick and dying, but I think there are many, many ways to help them without giving them marijuana.'
At DEA headquarters, authorities said the issue has nothing to do with Valerie Corral or compassion.
'This may be personal to her, but it's not personal to the DEA,' said the agency's Will Glaspy in Washington, D.C. 'The DEA's job is to enforce the Controlled Substance Act. Congress passed the laws and charged us with enforcing them. She is attempting to use the court system to get what she wants.'

Valerie Corral's path to becoming a medical marijuana advocate began 31 years ago, the day a small airplane swooped low and buzzed a Volkswagen she was riding in through the Nevada desert. The car went out of control and was sent skidding, rolling and bouncing 365 feet through the dust, brush and rocks.
Corral's slight body was flung against the roof and doors, causing brain damage, epilepsy, and a lifetime of staggering migraines. She took prescription drugs but still suffered convulsions, shaking and grand mal seizures.
Then one day, Mike handed her a medical journal article that showed marijuana controlled seizures in mice. Since then, for 30 years, Valerie Corral says she has maintained a steady level of marijuana in her system.

Her legal challenges began in 1992, when the local sheriff arrested her for growing five marijuana plants. With Mike, she challenged the law, using the defense of necessity.
Prosecutors dismissed the case, saying they didn't think they could win before a sympathetic jury in liberal Santa Cruz. When the sheriff arrested the Corrals again in 1993, the district attorney said he had no intention of ever prosecuting them and told police to leave them alone.
A few years later, the Corrals helped draft California's landmark Compassionate Use Act, approved by voters in 1996, that allows patients with a doctor's recommendation to use marijuana. Similar laws in Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and Washington allow the infirm to receive, possess, grow or smoke marijuana for medical purposes without fear of state prosecution.
But the law did not provide complete protection from arrest.

While local authorities worked with the Corrals to protect them against theft and coordinate distribution, federal agents continued to assert that growing, using and distributing marijuana was illegal. To provide legal protection, the city of Santa Cruz deputized the Corrals in 2000 to function as medical marijuana providers.
But in September 2002, federal agents raided the Corrals' farm -- just weeks before their annual harvest -- taking the couple to jail and pulling up more than 150 plants.
The Corrals were never charged, but the raid prompted them to begin a legal challenge to the federal ban, aided by a team of attorneys including University of Santa Clara law professor Gerald Uelmen and advocates at the Drug Policy Alliance, a non-profit Washington D.C.-based organization.
This is the case in which the San Jose judge recently ruled in their favor.

'Representing Valerie Corral, for me, is like representing Mother Teresa,' said Uelmen, a constitutional law expert, calling her 'one of the most compassionate people I've ever met.'
And one who has led a movement to a new high.
URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/05/24/state0316EDT0006.DTL

Re: Montell

Richard, C.Ped on 5/25/04 at 15:34 (151225)

I worked in a home health pharmacy which 90% of the patients were HIV +.
There was a huge majority that smoked pot to ease pain. I have worked with cancer patients as well in which the stuff helped greatly. I have no problem having it leagalized and made into a CII narcotic.

Re: Montell

Kathy G on 5/25/04 at 16:23 (151241)

I believe that Monteil Williams has MS. I've never seen his show but I think that anyone who has MS or any disease that causes severe pain should have the option to buy legal marijuana. It's long been thought to help patients who are on Chemo and as you said, Richard, AIDS patients. I think it should be available to anyone whose doctor says it's necessary, just the same as Class III narcotics are.

Re: Montell

john h on 5/26/04 at 10:43 (151287)

Kathy: I also read Montell had MS but in the interview I watched he did not use the words MS but did say his condition was hard to diagnose.

Re: Montell

john h on 5/26/04 at 10:52 (151289)

Richard I have never smoked and like President Clinton I do not know how to inhale. I wonder if you have to inhale to receive the pain benefit. By the way I am not ready to smoke anything (yet). As a child living on a farm we all tried smoking corn silk. If someone is in severe pain I say give them what ever it takes. Anything less would seem worse than torture.

Re: Montell

Kathy G on 5/26/04 at 18:14 (151336)

You and me both, John. A funny story about pot. We had a friend who got bronchitis every single time he smoked pot. We'd give him such a hard time about it. A few times he got bronchitis without smoking it but he could never convince anyone he hadn't been 'tokin'!'

Re: Montell

Richard, C.Ped on 5/27/04 at 07:40 (151360)

Intresting question about having to inhale to receive the benefits. There are so many tiny vessels in the mouth, sublingual mainly, it seems that it would work slightly. Hmmmm.