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Can we find a comfortable position??

Posted by Paula on 2/16/05 at 17:18 (169181)

I haven't posted in awhile. I am quite thankful that I now have a job where I sit at a desk..I have a question though. Even when I sit and have my feet up it hurts my heels. I am laying in bed watching tv with my feet in bed I often have to hang them over the edge so the heels are not even against the mattress because it hurts.
What does anyone else do? Just prop them on top of a pillow, or am I the only one with this problem?

Re: Can we find a comfortable position??

Jim F. on 2/18/05 at 01:28 (169302)

Hi Paula: Your post caught me. Its been 4 years now and handsfull of doctors and no one could figure out what was wrong with my foot till today. And im still not convinced. Im here because he said I may have Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome. Thats how I found this site. But no posts and no dignosis matched what I feel untill yours. When you said you hang your feet off the bed, that was the magic words. People can normally hang their feet and think not a thing of it. To me its pure pleasure to my foot. My worse time is driving though. Its the vibration. Sitting in a concert with vibrating floors I have to hold my foot off the ground. When I drive I pin my knee between the wheel and the door with my fist. It keeps my left foot hanging. Does any of this sound familiar to you?

Re: Yes, Jim

Paula on 2/18/05 at 05:52 (169307)

Yes, it does. I cannot sit comfortable in any seat when my feet touch the floor. I had told my doctor even something as light as a pillow under my heels hurts my feet. So I have to put something under the back of my leg so my feet are in the 'air'. They have never really addressed that with me either. I have had the surgery for the spur when they were finally convinced I was in pain. What they also found was nerve entrapment. I had the surgery 3 years ago. Ask me if I am truly better?
Not with out medication. But the sitting is another story. Thank you for your response. I know we all have heel pain, but I don't think I have ever seen this problem addressed before. I really understand.

Re: Can we find a comfortable position??

John H on 2/18/05 at 09:28 (169322)

The bottom line on TTS is you will never know for SURE until you have TTS surgery. The various test can produce false positives and false negatives and I have had them all. In the end I had surgery but it did not cure the problem. The surgery took only about 25 minutes and was out patient done in a hospital. About a 7' incision straight up the inside of the foot from the botton edge of the foot where the fascia attaches to the heel up over the ankle bone. Crutches for two weeks. Stitches out in 10 days. Not much pain. You want to make sure you have a Doctor who has done this many times. For this type of surgery I recommend a MD Foot and Ankle Surgeon/Specialist. It is not without risk but not as risky as PF release.

Re: Can we find a comfortable position??

John H on 2/18/05 at 09:35 (169324)

Paula I think many people with PF sleep with their feet hanging off the bed. This helps prevent your fascia from becoming to relaxed which can cause increased pain when you first step out of bed in the morning. You can get a better result using a nightsplint that holds your foot in the neutral or even the dorsiflexed position at night.

Re: Yes, Jim

Jim F. on 2/18/05 at 13:47 (169356)

So Paula has to hang her feet like me. I thought I was all alone. Doctors all first ask if pain is worse in the morning. NO. Im asked if it hurts, numb, tingling ect. NO NO NO. I still feel different. If I had to describe it, its not a hurt at all. I call it extreme discomfort. Like if I squeezed your wrist so tight, it dont hurt but its uncomfortable and your brain sends a signal that 'hey release the pressure'. I think I can out walk or run most people my age but standing is a chore. How do you all deal with driving? Many of you have both feet hurt, most of you all have little or no satisfaction with the surgery. It isnt too encouraging except to say that maybe im not as bad off as many of you with just one foot hating the rest of my body. Thanks all for replying. It does help to know Im not the only one. I thought I was based on all the dumb doctors who thought it was somthing else.

Re: Yes, Jim

Paula on 2/18/05 at 16:44 (169371)

I drive long distance with cruise on! I will put my left foot up to the side and my right foot flat to the floor so it is not 'laying' on the floor of the car. Boy it must be a sight. Something like such ittie, bittie feet cause so much trouble...

Re: Can we find a comfortable position??

Paula on 2/18/05 at 16:47 (169373)

Thanks. See, I have horrible pain in BOTH feet even though I had surgery 3 years ago. Splints really keep me up at night. Why do they have to be so BIG and bulky. I am afraid I will crush something in my sleep, ha, ha.
You know, off the subject but I got a pair of sandals at WalMart. They are not birkinstocks but an off brand. They saw me all through Disney last summer walking all day. Strange, my support shoes would hurt but those sandals helped. You just never know.
It is like something helps awhile then it looses it's effect, I don't know.

Re: driving pain

Kathy in Ky on 2/18/05 at 18:08 (169375)

I suffered with sharp, stinging pain when driving last year. I used cruise control whenever possible, drove barefoot, foot turned sideways, etc. Then I wore a walking cast for about 2 months. This really helped the driving pain after wearing it for weeks. But I think the best help for my feet has been the chiropractor! I went for about 6 or 7 two hour visits- each visit consisted of ultrasound therapy, electronic stimulation, adjustments & best of all - deep ligament massage. Also started taking lots of vitamins & minerals. Although I had some return of the PF pain & heel problems due to working on new concrete floors, overall, I am about 90% better than one year ago.

Re: Yes, Jim

Jim F on 2/18/05 at 18:36 (169379)

Yea...when ever someone I dont know comes into my car I feel obligated to explain to them why im doing what im doing with my foot. Things im reading here are not too encouraging are they?

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Jim F on 2/18/05 at 18:42 (169380)

Oh yea Kathy, you reminded me, I forgot to say already. Massage. Reflexoligy, a CMT who is also certified to do feet. That has helped me and seems to be the only thing to help me. I am lucky to be able to do some side jobs and that pays my $50/week for my treatment. I never tried the electronic stimulation. Physical therepy was usless too. I will begin that medication used for epileptcy tommorrow. I forgot the name.

Re: Can we find a comfortable position??

Jim F on 2/18/05 at 18:45 (169381)

I agree with what you say about somthing seems to help awhile then it loses its effect. I tried the orthadontic insert. The doc made this pretty little plaster mold of my foot and made me orthotics. Insurance dont cover that so I layed out $400 for that. It helped for maybe 4 months before I shoved them in the back of the drawer for good. Now its a double gel pad.

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Paula on 2/19/05 at 11:08 (169428)

I tell you what really felt good for awhile was when I had a doctor tape my foot. That was wonderful....I have orthotics that cost a few hundred that did nothing for me. they were very hard and I was told to put them under the insert in my shoe. I hated them and they hurt my arches.

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Pat on 2/20/05 at 21:34 (169527)

I had EPF surgery on 11/3/04 and I have more pain when driving. I guess it's from resting your foot on the car floor. I've been to three sessions of physical therapy and had ultrasound and this weird calf muscle stretching apparatus that made me have excruiating pain. The Podiatrist told me to stop physical therapy. My insurance company won't pay for anything related to a Chiropractor (they'll have to cut every body part but nothing to help you) and they just changed their policy so now every visit to the physical therapist is the $15 co pay. Which adds up if you're going 3 times a week. I started thinking I could get a massage for a little more than that and just might try it. I saw a place that specializes in reflexology and also does a massage for one particular area (like calf muscles). It might help more than the Physical Therapist.

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John H on 2/21/05 at 10:36 (169559)

I would be very careful about reflexology so near to your surgery. This can be very aggressive and I would clear this with my Doctor else you may do some damage.

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Julie on 2/21/05 at 10:51 (169562)

I agree with John, Pat: check with your doctor. And as I am sure you are aware, reflexology, although it works through the feet, affects the body organs that are related to the different parts of the feet. It's not a treatment for the feet per se.
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