I feel badPosted by Larry on 4/24/05 at 23:49 (173681)
I have been suffering for over 10 years. I have read about injuries and re-injuries, as if this is usually an off and on problem. My heal hurts all the time. If I walk for more than 30 min it feels like a knife being jabbed and twisted into my heel. Then it hurts for no reason... just sitting around and wham! Driving a car... left foot resting on floorboard hurts... put foot on it's side, that hurts. Lift foot up... release of pressure hurts. I thank God that I can still walk, but I think I don't know for how long. This website looks great... It has given me the most hope for some type of future that includes walking. I've been to all kinds of doctors... had all kinds of orthodics... No help! My foot really hurts bad today, so mostly I'M VENTING! Thanks....
This really kills me: NOBODY... not even my wife understands the serverity and depth of the pain... I'm tired of people telling me to just walk it off... When people look at someone with an obviouse handicap they feel compassion, they can't see my handicap, so they treat me like I'm some kind of sissy... I just can't take the pain... They say..'Oh.. my foot hurt once, I just walked it off and toughed it out' I can't say how many times I wished I could transfer my pain to others... Not to hurt them, but just so they could understand the gravity of the problem...
This helps... thanks!
Re: I feel badJohn H on 4/25/05 at 08:32 (173687)
Larry your story sounds like a hundred I have read. I doubt if anyone really understands what a person with PF goes through if they have not had to deal with it. This is a great place to vent so vent away. PF can make a sissy guy out of the toughest guy. This is also a place to start looking for new ways to treat your problem. We have had people cured after 10 years and many ohters greatly improved. There is no one secret for PF so start reading away as to what other people are doing. We have people from all over the world. Start by reading Scotts book which is on the home page. Start asking questions. We have Doctors and other specialist who give freely of their time. I have had PF for almost 10 years now. I am better than I was 10 years ago but still fight the battle. Tell us what kind of shoes you wear, what kind of treatments have you had? Do you wear orthotics? Posting here may have been the best thing you could have done to get on the road to feeling better.
Re: I feel betterLarry on 4/25/05 at 10:00 (173693)
Well, today is my birthday... I'm 47, and I feel like crying for joy. No one else has ever said it's OK for me to feel the way I do... Even doctors! I feel hope! Thanks John. I will add a little history when I get a little more time. I never thought to seek help on the internet, even though I am pretty savvy on-line. I just thought that the doctors would have told me all of this stuff. This is the first I've heard about taping my foot. I'm trying it, and I think I like it!
Thanks Again... and thanks to Scott for having this site!
Re: I feel betterJulie on 4/25/05 at 10:38 (173695)
Larry, Happy Birthday!
Do read the heel pain book, as John suggested. In fact, print it out and study it. It has been, for all of us here, a great resource.
I think most people have found that 'no-one understands', not even wives and husbands. That has always astonished me, as, apparently, there are around a million new cases of PF every year, which means that a considerable proportion of the population is suffering from it. Still, that's how it is! At least there is this website for information and support, if you want it: you've come to the right place.
To encourage you, there are quite a few of us here who have had PF and recovered. Mine, which started five years ago, resolved within six months, and I've been fine ever since. So there is hope. Study the heel pain book for treatment options, and see if you can find a first-class podiatrist who will examine and evaluate you, and identify the cause of your problem so that it can be treated with a plan that targets the cause.
Taping, which you say you're trying, was enormously helpful to me. It doesn't only relieve the pain, it takes the strain off the inflamed fascia, 'resting' it and giving it a chance to heal. Have you looked at the section on taping in the book?
Re: I feel badLinda V on 4/25/05 at 12:53 (173700)
There's lots of us out here who TOTALLY understand the pain of PF. I was fortunate enough to find a podiatrist who has EXPERIENCED PF...he knew exactly what I was going through, and helped me along a path to almost totally being pain-free. However, he and I believe that we are likely candidates for re-occurrence, and so we are both diligent in our efforts to avoid another outbreak. Glad you found the website. Great info, great people here. Welcome!
Re: I feel badTina H on 4/25/05 at 13:43 (173704)
Larry first of all, bon anniversaire!! Secondly sadly I feel your pain as well as my 14 year old daughter who also has pf. Don't give up, even when it seems hopeless we have to continue searching for answers and new 'cures'. I think the worst thing about pf is that unless you've had it, and surprisingly there are alot of people walking around with it, no one understands. I think when I was really bad, I used to literally crawl up the stairs to go to bed at night, that was when my husband really understood just how much it hurt. It would be helpful if you could tell us what exactly you've tried. Maybe someone will have some suggestions of new things to try. One thing I've learned, is what works for one person, doesn't necessarily work for someone else and there are easily 50 different 'things' to try and infinite combinations which might help. So let us know what you've tried and are still doing in your daily life. Good Luck.
Re: I feel badMax K on 4/25/05 at 14:21 (173706)
Hi Larry, have you heard of this booklet:
'But you LOOK good!'
I don't have that booklet, but it sounds like it might be helpful if you can get people to read it:
Re: I feel like there's hope!Larry on 4/25/05 at 14:49 (173708)
Hi... I thank you all for your very kind words of encouragement.
This is my story... I have been overweight to some degree since about age 25. I used to have a muscular build, so I was in pretty good shape at 210 lbs. I used to run, then in my mid 20's developed shin splints which stayed fine, so long as I didn't run. My calves have always been pretty tight, even though I stretch. I often get calf cramps while sleeping. Over time, I put on weight every year till about 10 years ago I weighed 280 lbs and developed Diabetes type 2. I joined up at a gym and started on the tread mill every day for an hour. I did pretty good. After several months, my weight was down to 240 lbs, but then the heal pain started. At first it was just painful... I went to an ortopeodic doctor who sold me an off the shelf pair of orthodics. No help and the pain got worse, till I could no longer use the tread mill. I went to a podiatrist who sold me a very expesive pair of orthodics. They caused my bad foot to develop severe pain in the top of my foot and left a black and blue mark on top as well. He said not to worry about it. He was nice but of no help towards a cure. I saw a chiropractor, who put me in another pair of orthodics...no help. I saw another Podiatrist, who told me the first podiatrist gave me the wrong type of orthodic... I sold me a more expesive set... Still no relief. The I got the cortosone shots... Right in the heel!!!!! Ouch... that hurt. But... it didn't help. I went to the Rush Pain Center in Chicago.... The Pain Doctor said the problem was actually in my lower back.... So after all kinds of x rays etc, I went to Oak Park Hospital, where I was sedated and given shots in my lower back. I got this 4 times. It did make my back feel good, but never helped my foot. I saw another specialist.... I forgot what he was called, but he dug into my foot like he was trained in torture... That hurt alot, but never helped. I went to a chiropractor who did some infra red light thing or something like that... expensive and the newest thing... sure to work... It didn't. So now this Chiropractor wants to make orthodics for me. I haven't said yes yet. I got up to 310 lbs... part because I eat too much and part because it's hard to exersize... I went on Atkins... Ive lost 60 lbs... down to 250, but my left heal still kills. I hate to sound like a complainer.... i just wanted to tell it the way it is. Thanks... Larry
PS. Sorry if that was too much or too boring or too complainish.
Re: I feel like there's hope!Larry on 4/25/05 at 14:53 (173709)
Oh... I have a very high instep... as a kid, it was extremely painful for me to ice skate. I could ice skate for about 10 minutes, before the intense pain in that tendon, would cause me to have to rest. If I took alot of asprin I could get in a game of hockey.
Re: I feel like there's hope!Ralph on 4/25/05 at 16:53 (173714)
Wow what a story. I'm not a doctor, but I'd say you've tried your share of orthotics already and unless you just like to spend money on them I wouldn't spend another dime in that direction but that is certainly a decision for you to make.
BTW congratulations on the weight loss, good for you keep at it. I think weight does seem to play it's own part in P.F. too.
Re: I feel bettermarie on 4/25/05 at 17:26 (173716)
Happy Birthday Larry! We have all had this happen to us. It's bad enough that your suffering but the lack of compassion and understanding by some is brutal......especially from friends and family. They just don't get it. It's not their fault they really just don't know. I try to explain the pain I'm in with visuals.........like 'it feels like I'm walking on broken glass.' It hurts so much when folks are just mean about it. I had gossip behind my back at work too where I used to teach. My students handled it better then my co-workers.
That's why folks come here. We all understand! We have all walked in your shoes literally and some of us never recover completely. Glad you let us know how you're feeling.
best wishes marie
Re: I feel badmarie on 4/25/05 at 17:28 (173717)
Actually I've read that book.......it's very popular among those who have MS. My brother sent it to me. It's pretty good.
Re: I feel badJanice C on 4/25/05 at 22:51 (173736)
Dear Larry, I'm so sorry that the people who do not have heel pain do not understand. I hate to say I was clueless myself, I was with both my sister-in-laws when they were struggling with PF originally, and I could not understand either, because I had no problems myself. Boy do I understand now! I can't recommend highly enough that you read Scott's heel pain book also. Lately my PF has gotten better & better, because of a combination of things which I have posted about so I won't repeat all of it, but 1 more thing- I have stopped lifting/carrying anything heavier than a gallon of water at a time. If I have to make 50 trips to & from the car to bring in groceries, I do that. I also limit my time to 30 min on a concrete floor such as the grocery store. Not much fun, but I have given up trying to do what I did before, I just cannot & expect to get better. Good for you losing weight. I have had the best luck with Atkins myself, I also developed diabetes last Nov and my nurse/practicioner advised me to get off the low carb because I also had high cholesterol. So I am struggling with my weight again, and that does not help the inflammed PF. So stay with it, just watch your cholesterol & try to get plenty of veggies to avoid constipation. It is not fun to develop hemmorhoids from straining at the stool, then you can't sit OR stand! (I'm a nurse). Janice C.
Re: I feel betterJudyS on 4/25/05 at 23:17 (173742)
Larry it is my son's birthday today also. Happy Birthday!
I'm glad you were able to find this website when you turned to the 'net. It has been invaluable for each and every person here so I hope you'll stick around and get comfy. The collective voice of experience here will serve you well.
Re: Larry-some suggestionsTina H on 4/26/05 at 06:56 (173749)
Larry thanks for sharing your history so that we can give you better advice. First of all let me say that I am not a doctor so my suggestions should be discussed with a doctor.
1)With a high arch, pes cavus, you should be wearing supports. Unfortunately there are just as many people making bad orthotics as good. At a very minimum, purchase some full length inserts like Soles, you can usually get these at good running stores. Remove the regular inserts from a good pair of shoes and use these instead. But like I said this is at a minimum. Ideally you should be wearing custom made orthotics made by a board certified pedorthist, like Rich who answers questions on this site. People with a high arch are more likely to get PF.
2)Secondly, Great job loosing weight. I need to do that so you've inspired me! However stop using the treadmill immediately! Switch to non load bearing exercise like biking or swimming. Some Y's have really great, strenuous aquatics classes like deep watere aquatics, fin to fitness which is a group swimming fitness class. Maybe you'll be lucky enough to have something like that where you live.
3)Even though they are nuisance, wear a night splint. This is especially important when you have tight calves.
4) Lastly, Do the plantar fascia stretch and Julies foot yoga exercises. I know they seem wimpy and you think not a thing is happening, but I do them all the time now and they do help. I think Dr. Z said it takes six weeks of doing the plantar fascia stretch 3 times/day to effect a change. These are also good for 'warming up' you feet before getting out of bed.
5)Lastly, I don't know if you would be a candidate with diabetic feet, but talk to your doctor about ESWT.
Good Luck Larry, I hope you find some relief soon!!! Tina H
Re: Larry-some suggestionsKathy G on 4/26/05 at 09:42 (173756)
Yesterday, I posted a reply to your first posting. I don't know where it went but it's not there! It doesn't matter because everyone has done a terrific job at giving you advice and encouragement. I'd just like to join them and at the same time, wish you a belated happy birthday and congratulations on the weight loss. Losing weight with PF is a real challenge, as many of us have found.
Don't give up; many of us who are not cured are a whole lot better than we were when we found this website. As for people not understanding, it's just human nature. Foot problems don't mean a thing until one experiences them. I don't know why - maybe because it's not visible. I, like John, seldom say anything about my feet to anyone because it's just not worth the bland dismissal.
Welcome and may you find some relief soon!
Re: I feel betterBuck T. on 4/26/05 at 10:10 (173758)
Hi Larry: I reasoned like you that doctors I were seeing should tell me what I needed to know. Used to seeing doctors who 'fix' things without me personaly being involved.
But I learned I was only one who could 'fix' pf. It was up to me to study board and then talk to doctors. I asked questions here from professionals and then went to my POD with information. I learned things here that medical professionals I were seeing didn't know. That information was critical in them helping me.
Also, I finally had to get something for depression first time in my life. Your general physician can help with this.
You touched my heart when you said nobody understands this type of pain.
I lost a lot of self respect from pf. My POD even told wife I had low pain threshbold and this became a joke in family. Don't want this long, so I'll just say I'm doing great now.
Sincerely, Buck T.