Real EstatePosted by Necee on 6/20/05 at 00:14 (177071)
Does anyone here sell real estate? If so, please reply, I have a question.
Re: Real EstateJohn H on 6/20/05 at 08:36 (177078)
I am in the Commercial Real Estate business Necee.
Re: Real EstateRalph on 6/20/05 at 10:16 (177084)
I realize that you said you are in Commercial Real Estate, but do you have any take on the Residentual Market on Florida Gulf Coast???? Do you think we will continue to see condo prices rise????
Re: Real EstateNecee on 6/20/05 at 11:09 (177089)
John, sounds like you're into everything! I have this question about residential real estate, but I'm sure you can tell me if this is a common practice..........
We live in the country, our ranch is on a hilltop, we have a small 4 acre lake behind our house, the house thats across the county road from us is for sale, the listing agent came out 2 weeks ago, put up his sign, and took pictures...well, I got on their website a couple of days ago just to see what they were asking for the house, there were 4 pictures, 2 of the house for sale, 1 of their driveway facing their house, and the other one was a picture of OUR lake! I was shocked to say the least, so....is this a common practice used in the real estate market? To take a picture without permisson of somebody elses property? and use it as an enhancement to sell their listing? Sure seems like false advertising to me, not to mention that our lake is NOT for sale.
Re: Real EstateRalph on 6/20/05 at 11:48 (177092)
That sure seems deceptive unless the folks across the street have some form of access to the lake itself. In other words if they can use the lake the real estate guy is probably trying to highlight that fact. If
it's a private lake for those people who own lake lots then I personally think he is falsely advertising or at the very least pushing his limit
to make a sale. Do you have a home owners association that pays for the up keep of that lake? If so I'd show the pictures to your home owners association and let them call this guy.
Surprise to the people who purchase the house thinking they can use the lake if that isn't the case. Personally I think I'd call his broker and
share the information with the broker. Let the broker take it up with the agent. Have fun.
Re: Real EstateNecee on 6/20/05 at 15:45 (177109)
I own the lake, it's on my property. My husband and I had it dug when we bought our land many years ago. The only thing I can think of is they are showing potential buyers the 'view' they would have from the front porch of this house that's for sale. Our lake sits down in a valley behind our house, and it is a pretty view...I don't mind at all people enjoying the view either....the problem I have is with them taking it upon themselves to take a picture of our property, without our consent, and using it on their website to enhance the sale of this house.
Re: Real EstateNecee on 6/20/05 at 15:48 (177110)
To answer your question Ralph, there is no homeowners association. We live in the country. There's nothing but ranches and wide open spaces around us.
Re: Real EstateElyse B on 6/20/05 at 15:52 (177111)
Necee, I work in real estate. Simple solution, call the broker and ask him exactly what you have posed this board. He/She will have to explain why they took a picture of the lake and how they are selling the property. Very, very simple.
Re: Real EstateRalph on 6/20/05 at 16:13 (177113)
I think Elyse has a good solution, one that will get you an explaination and also put them on notice that you don't expect them to continue advertising other property in this same fashion.
Seems like a nice trick to sell the other home doesn't it. Use your view and their lot.
Re: Real Estate To: Elyse and others~~~~HELP!!!!!!Necee on 6/20/05 at 23:32 (177136)
I wish your solution was that simple Elyse. I did call the listing agent, as a matter of fact I've called them several times. I told them in no uncertain terms that I didn't appeciate them using our property to sell their listing. The lady just laughed and said she didn't know who took that picture, but she would have it removed from the website. That was last week, I decided that I'd give them a few days....well, I did, and checked the website Monday....guess what, the picture is still there! By this time I'm beginning to get really annoyed, so I called the broker again, some rude lady said she would take care of it, then she hung up on me! Well, that was the last straw for me! I looked in the phone book and found a number for their corporate headquarters, I called them, they told me that this agency I'm having trouble with was not part of their corporation, even though the name of the company is the same. I'm at my wits end!!!!!
Is there a state regulation board for real estate agencys or something that I can call?
Re: Real Estate To: Elyse and others~~~~HELP!!!!!!Elyse B on 6/21/05 at 05:27 (177143)
I am not sure if there is a state agency but what you need to do now is (a) see if you can find a government agency (maybe the better business bureau of your state), (b) put exactly what happened IN WRITING (everything you have done)(c) send by certified mail, return receipt rquested to the agency, the corporate headquarters AND the attorney general of your state while 'CC'ing' everyone. If you have the time, walk a copy of the agency and give it to someone there.
Call your local city council or state attorney general for listings of government agencies that might be able to help you find if this agency is accredited or where you should write. But first you must write to agency and tell them to cease and desist and send one to AG's office as well. I know here in NYC the attorney general's office handles real estate issues.
P.S. do not let the lady at the agency bother you, keep calling them to find out who is in charge.
Re: Real Estate To: Elyse and others~~~~HELP!!!!!!DavidW on 6/21/05 at 07:26 (177146)
Necee, Call the office and ask to speak with the Broker if you have not already. Do not explain to the office personnel why, just insist on speaking with the Broker. If the Broker cannot assist, then do whatever you have to. Remind the Broker that any violations of the Real Estate code of ethics could land him/her a fine.
Re: Real EstateJohn H on 6/21/05 at 10:19 (177159)
Necee: It is not uncommon to show pictures of homes,buildings,etc that have things in the background that are not part of what is being offered for sale. The only injured party might be someone who buys the land based on the picture on the website. The agent/broker is required to identify what is being sold and when a title search is made as it is in all real estate transactons it will clearly show the property lines of the land/home being sold. A broker is also required to present a Property Disclosure which is very extensive to the buyer. Both buyer and seller have to sign it. No law is being broken by taking a picture of someones property. It happens every day. I would just write a letter to the selling broker and advise he is displaying your lake and it appears as though it is part of the house being offered for sale. Take a look at your property plat which you should have received when you purchased your land and insure yourself the lake is within your boundry. If it is you have nothing to worry about.
Once I was fishing on a pond in the backwoods of south Georgia. I had paid the farmer $2.00 to be allowed to fish on the pond. About 30 minutes into my bass fishing trip a wild looking man appeared on the bank and leveled a shotgun at me and my buddy. He informed me in some pretty tough lanugage that this was his lake and to get my sorry a-- of the the lake. I told him I had paid the farmer to fish and he said he did not care as it was his lake. I quickly rowed to sure and got out of Dodge. A few months later I was fishing in another pond near the same area. Deep in a swamp type lake I encountered a man in a small boat. He pulled out a .38 pistol and pointed it at me and told me to get off his pond. Once again I retreated real fast. I asked the farmer who I paid to fish and he said the guy was crazy and just released from an institution. That did not make me feel any better because he was still out there with his gun so I left. Two cases of people who had a lake in dispute.
Re: Real EstateJohn H on 6/21/05 at 10:31 (177161)
Ralph: I vacationed in Destin, Ft Walton Beach, and Panama City Beach every summer for 30 years. I have looked at beach Condos and each year the price is higher. I do not think I would buy a home on or near the beach just because of hurricanes. Some insurance companies have pulled out of Florida and I think Farmers is one of them. As you know homes have risen rapidly in price in the past three years. In Little Rock the average price of a home has gone up over 23%. In my opinion now is not the right time to buy any real estate for investment purposes. If you are buying a home as a primary residence it is always better than renting. Never forget the old saying of 'Location Location Location' when it comes to real estate. Florida continues to grow. They have no state income tax. Office buildings and shopping centers are greatly overbuilt in the commercial market in much of the country. I think the average price of a home is now over $200,000 for the first time in history.
Re: Real Estate~~~John HNecee on 6/21/05 at 11:23 (177165)
I'm not going to go pointing guns at anybody.
I just think it's wrong to take a picture of another persons property without getting permisson, then using that picture to make a 'sale'.
I'm not concerned at all about anyone thinking they own our lake, it's behind our house, and quite a distance from this property that's for sale...it's across the road. So, is it a common practice to take a picture of the neighbors house in town? When they are trying to sell a house across the street from it? After making numerous phone calls to this broker, I've asked them, and asked them to please remove this picture, yet they refuse to do so, why?
Re: Real Estate~~~John Hjohn h on 6/21/05 at 17:41 (177178)
No idea why they would post a picture of your lake Neece unless they think it's view might make the sale of their property more likely. It is very unlikely they are breaking any law although if someone called me about some picture I had posted of their property, even if it was a background picture, I would pull it down. I think taking pictures falls under the First Amendment. You see the rich and famous being secretly photographed all the time on their own property, in boats, everywhere and their is nothing they can do about it. When houses are posted for sale it is not uncommon to see other neighbors houses as it gives a buyer a sense of what the neighborhood looks like. I do not sell homes so I do not get involved in this but I often take pictures from aircraft which covers all sorts of things we are not selling. Real estate law varies widely from state to state but the First Ammendment covers everyone. You might call you local Real Estate Commission as they can tell you if the picture in question is misleading.
Re: Real Estate~~~John HJudyS on 6/21/05 at 19:17 (177180)
Necee - tell us the number of the broker and we can all call..it sure seems like misleading advertising to me.
Re: Real Estate~~~John HRalph on 6/21/05 at 21:58 (177192)
Yea, gooooooood idea Judy. That would trip him out.
Re: Real EstateRalph on 6/21/05 at 22:16 (177193)
I want my piece of the Gulf and as I've watched prices go up if I don't jump in soon I may never get it. Destin and Ft. Walton Beach are pretty well developed, but from our last visit to Florida we know developers are in the process of gutting the Panama City Beach area. They are busy tearing down the old and putting up new condos all along the beach. Gulf front condos in this area are much cheaper than say around Naples although I don't know if I want to be that far north. I understand they are slated for a new airport and a lot of new commercial developmen too.
Since I'm not retired yet, my wife and her friends could use it as well as our grown children. I'd get down a few weeks in the winter and fall. Later it would just become a winter home for us and the family could use it when they wanted an inexpensive vacation.
Since they are not making anymore beach frontage I might be priced out of the market if I continue to wait. I definitely want Gulf frontage property just not sure what city yet. For beauty I don't think you can beat the Emerald Coast of Florida. The sand is great. Temp. is a little cool in Jan and Feb. though.
My wife says we could always rent it out, but knowing her after she furnished it I can't see her offering her home to renters.
Re: To Judy S.~~~~~~~~Coldwell Banker 903-874-7171Necee on 6/21/05 at 23:53 (177199)
Proprty is on County Rd Northwest 2100
Re: To Judy S.~~~~~~~~Coldwell Banker 903-874-7171Necee on 6/21/05 at 23:54 (177200)
I need a good laugh, this is driving me nuts!!!!!
Re: To Judy S.~Hey! They even have a toll free # 800-863-5981Necee on 6/22/05 at 00:03 (177203)
Re: To Judy S.~~~~~~~~Coldwell Banker 903-874-7171Ralph on 6/22/05 at 07:50 (177207)
Here goes. They get my call today Necee. We'll all become their heelspurs and we all know how that feels:*
Re: Real EstateJohn H on 6/22/05 at 10:04 (177214)
Ralph have you ever looked at the Gulf Shores area? Beaches much like at Destin but probably less expensive. To buy beach front property you better have a truck load of money just for the down payment. Ten years ago a condo in a high rise on the beach about 1500 sf in a nice building facing the ocean will range from $350,000 up to as much as you want to spend. If you had a free standing house I would think a million dollars for openers. There willl also be stiff condo fees. For a few years they were overbuilt and some deals could be had. A one week rental during season in Destin in a nice two bedroom 1500sf condo facing the beach will be from $2500 to $3000. During the winter the rate drops about 30-40% as the snowbirds from Canada move in. I would rent a place near where you want to buy and live there for a month before I invested. Pensicola is also a nice area. I have lived in Daytona Beach but much prefer the pan handle area of Florida.
Re: Real EstateRalph on 6/22/05 at 12:22 (177216)
We've rented in several areas and we've already know it would be a condo over a house because most of the year it would sit empty. We both definitely want it smack ocean front. I want to see the Gulf. By the end of this year I think we will have purchased one there. As you say and as we've watched prices just seem to be going higher and higher. If I can't see the sand meet the water I don't need to be in Florida.
I figure we'd purchase what we can afford in an area that we like since our purpose isn't resale but to keep it for a winter home and for our kids to use. Young people seem to like Florida anytime, but my wife and I only go in the winter and fall. No summers for us in Florida.
Re: Real EstateJohn H on 6/23/05 at 11:18 (177251)
Ralph: About 5 years ago I was in my regular condo in Destin on the top floor (11th). A big hurricane was going to hit somewhere near the next day. That night my wife nagged me into calling and trying to reschedule a flight in the early morning even though we had 4 more days. Luckily I was able to get a 7am departure on Northwest out of Ft Walton Beach Airport. When we left the condo about 5 am the winds were already 75mph and I could barely see the road and wondered if I could make it to the airport in my rented car. I had to cross several bridges and a strip of highway that had water on both sides that was about 20 or more miles long. We made it to the airport. There must have been over a 1000 people there trying to get on the only plane left that I was scheduled on. When we took off the winds were easily over 80 knots but straight down the runway. We were the last plane to take off before the hurricane hit that afternoon. My condo had the entire 1st floor destroyed and all cars washed away. The 20 mile stretch of highway I had traveled was completely covered with water and had to rebuilt. It took many months. My condo was sort of on a little strip of land jetting into the ocean. I would have been trapped for probably weeks. The only way to reach my condo would have been by boat. Winds exceeded 140mph and tremendous damage was done to the beach and beach homes. The high rise condos withstood the winds and water as I think the doors and windows are required to withstand nearly 200mph winds but there would have been no electricity or water for weeks. I wanted to view a big hurricane from my 11th floor balcony but fortunately my wife had more sense. On take off within 10 minutes we were on top of the clouds looking at the sun as we headed northwest. Lucky us. My condo people even mailed me back a refund without me asking.
Re: Real EstateRalph on 6/23/05 at 11:54 (177253)
Hurricanes in Florida are a part of living there. I want a condo on the Gulf so my wife and I plan to purchase one. Yes we may experience the damage that you describe, but at the same time we will own what we've always wanted a Gulf front condo. Ya pay your money and take your chances. Lots of others do it on a daily basis. Most of our use would be in the winter months. The chances of us being their during huricane season is pretty slim. The rest we will leave up to insurance coverage. If we all thought the same way there would be no one living in those Gulf front buildings and they would be dirt cheap. Now I'd really like those prices a lot better.
Re: Real EstateJohn H on 6/24/05 at 10:06 (177274)
Ralph: You know I have to love it on the Gulf Coast or I would not be going there every year for 35 years. In my situation renting makes sense. It is only about a 12 hour drive from Litttle Rock to Destin although I sometimes fly and leave Little Rock around 8am and am in my condo before noon. The only reason I did not buy a condo was the ones I liked were out of reach money wise. I could make it work if I rented it when I was not there but I did not want to do that. A close friend owns three condos in Destin. One of them cost over a million and he does not rent it. The other two he does rent. Where are you thinking of buying? I do know that the Florida code for building a home on the beach requires a lot of special items if you are thinking of building. The newer high rise condos seems to withstand any hurricane with current building codes.
Re: To John Real EstateRalph on 6/27/05 at 10:19 (177361)
We like Marco Island a lot.