I wear my orthotics 23.5 hours a day (except in the shower)and they fit in both these, but they tend to slip forward in any shoe I wear, these a bit more than others because they are so lovely and wide. I also have Easy Spirit laceups in black and brown which I wear most of the time for dress. The orthotics fit very well in these, minimal slippage up and plenty of room for my poor squared off little toes (too many years of pointe, the middle three end in a straight line). I can't wear trainers, running shoes, anything like that without pain, they just don't fit right and I've tried lots of different brands. If you're looking for shoes to wear without orthotics, I can't help you there.
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